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Naeem Mohaiemen

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Jan 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/6/97
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Bengali "social-realism" singer from Calcutta, Nochiketha is in Dhaka
for concert.

Nochiketha is considered a younger, lighter version/pretender to the
throne of Suman Chatterjee.

5/6 Jan: Engineers Institute
7 Jan: Mirpur Indoor Stadium
8 Jan: Agrabad Upohar Cinema Hall, Chittagong

Tickets: Tk 200, 300, 500

[Ekhon Sudiphto C eshe amake jharu-peta korbe-- Shumon ar Nochiketha'r
nam eki sentence e niechi bole :-) ]

Parbo na hothe ami Romeo
Thai dupur belathe ghumeo

Hindu ki Japani
Jani na tho thumi ki
Jane oi dada-der gang

--
Naeem Mohaiemen
HBO Interactive Media

PSAHA

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Jan 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/7/97
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In article <32D112...@hbo.com>,
naeem.m...@hbo.com says...

Parbo na hothe ami Romeo
Thai dupur belathe ghumeo
Hindu ki Japani
Jani na tho thumi ki
Jane oi dada-der gang


I thought all these lines are from a song by Anjan
Dutta who always says Suman is his teacher.

Naeem Mohaiemen

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Jan 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/7/97
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Quite right. They are by Anjan Datta.

Buro boyosh e Bangali shob gayok der gan bajna gublet kore felchi.

Anjan, Shumon, Nochiketha-- shobai pachmichali hoe jacche amar mogoj er
bhethore [testament to the success of the clone effect?].

Nochiketha hocche onnyo jinish. Shombobotho:

Keu bole buro bham

..Burota morle bachi

[naki etao olot palot kormal, basha e gie dekhthe hoi]

Thobe aro moja'r byapar holo, 24 ghonta-e, dui bangla board milie you
are only person to have caught it.

By the way, Nochiketha also credits Shumon. See Sudiptho Chatterjee's
docu FREE TO SING?

Shujon

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Jan 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/7/97
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Naeem Mohaiemen wrote:
>
> Bengali "social-realism" singer from Calcutta, Nochiketha is in Dhaka
> for concert.
>
> Nochiketha is considered a younger, lighter version/pretender to the
> throne of Suman Chatterjee.
>
> 5/6 Jan: Engineers Institute
> 7 Jan: Mirpur Indoor Stadium
> 8 Jan: Agrabad Upohar Cinema Hall, Chittagong
>
> Tickets: Tk 200, 300, 500
>
> [Ekhon Sudiphto C eshe amake jharu-peta korbe-- Shumon ar Nochiketha'r
> nam eki sentence e niechi bole :-) ]
>
> Parbo na hothe ami Romeo
> Thai dupur belathe ghumeo
>
> Hindu ki Japani
> Jani na tho thumi ki
> Jane oi dada-der gang
>


Hey..isn't it Anjan Dutta's 'Ranjana ami ar ashbona?'

> --
> Naeem Mohaiemen
> HBO Interactive Media

--

Asif Saleh

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~asaleh/WWW/

Naeem Mohaiemen

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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sayan bhattacharyya wrote:

> "mogoj-e curfew" lagiye dao he naeem :-) ta chhaRa kono upay nei |

> > Sudiptho Chatterjee's docu FREE TO SING?

> Nachiketa says something very enigmatic in the documentary.

> "Suman-da -- Suman-da ekTa onyo byapar | Onar sombondhe kichhu bola
> jabe na |"


Ey na hole Bangali. Shunam kora'r nam-e ekta shukkho khocha. :-)

Shamne hashi, piche Bash dithe Bangali'r juri nei (ami-o tho bangali,
thai etho authority'r shathe bolchi) :-)


"Line er pechon theke chithkar shona gelo: 'kathukuthu din moshai,
kathukuthu din'
..Buhjlam bhodrolok bangali.."

[kar lekha, bolun tho, Nochiketha ba Shumon noi :-) ]

S Bhattacharyya

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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Naeem Mohaiemen <naeem.m...@hbo.com> writes:

Je bhadralok eyi thread ti shuru korechilen onar ki takhan shardi
hoyechhilo ? Just curious :-)

Santanu

Tablaguy

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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Dada,
aapnar Suman da/Nachiketa/Annjan 'r opor article ta porlam. Recently
kolkata theke ghure eshe mone hochche Suman da r Bangla gaane 'r influence
ta esheche Pete Seegar er kach theke beshi rokom bhabe. Aami Netaji indoor
Stadium e gechilum oder dujoner concert sunte. Ekta katha bolte ekhon aar
badhche na je dujoner gaan baajna, aadan prodan, bhab bhangi - sab kichute
te i ashombhob mil. Suman da onke nijer Mentor (Gaaner Jagote - Guitar
bajiye jibomukhi Bangla gaaner er byapare) hishebe manen ki na jaani na.
Ekhon to mone hochche onek kichui onr kaach theke nakal kora. Emon ki
katha barta porjonto. Don't get me wrong, Aami nijei Sumon da r bishal
fan. Suman da r Bangla Gaaner jogote contribution oporishim(Suman da r
gaaner emon kono cassette ekhono porjonto beroi ni ja aamar kaache nei).
Kintu aami eto din bhabtam eta original - ekon bhul ta dur korechi. Sei
shonge kolkata r loke rao. Jodi karo mone byatha diye thaki taar jonye
khama chaichi.

DN

sayan bhattacharyya

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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Naeem Mohaiemen <naeem.m...@homebox.com> wrote:

>Anjan, Shumon, Nochiketha-- shobai pachmichali hoe jacche amar mogoj er
>bhethore

"mogoj-e curfew" lagiye dao he naeem :-) ta chhaRa kono upay nei |

[the reference is to the title of a Suman song].

>By the way, Nochiketha also credits Shumon. See Sudiptho Chatterjee's
>docu FREE TO SING?

Nachiketa says something very enigmatic in the documentary. He says:

"Suman-da -- Suman-da ekTa onyo byapar | Onar sombondhe kichhu bola
jabe na |"

Bojho :-)


Dipen Bhattacharya

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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Naeem Mohaiemen wrote:

> Bengali "social-realism" singer from Calcutta, Nochiketha is in Dhaka
> for concert. Nochiketha is considered a younger, lighter version/pretender to the throne of Suman Chatterjee.
> [Ekhon Sudiphto C eshe amake jharu-peta korbe-- Shumon ar Nochiketha'r
> nam eki sentence e niechi bole :-) ]

And this is Anjan Dutta

> Parbo na hothe ami Romeo
> Thai dupur belathe ghumeo

> Hindu ki Japani
> Jani na tho thumi ki
> Jane oi dada-der gang

By the way, among the new ones (besides Shumon),
I think Shilajit is the most eco-oriented new age
type. There seems to be some Pink Floyd influence
(crowd murmer at the starting, slogan type chorus,
etc.) in his work.

> Naeem Mohaiemen

Dipen Bhattacharjo

PSAHA

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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>Quite right. They are by Anjan Datta.
>Buro boyosh e Bangali shob gayok der gan bajna gublet kore felchi.

Ai dekha, ar ak jon buro boyosh ar bhoy dekkache. Tahela kinto anakay sure sur milia
gaiba ----

Burota morley bachi.

>Keu bole buro bham...Burota morle bachi

No, you are correct.

>Thobe aro moja'r byapar holo, 24 ghonta-e, dui bangla board milie you
>are only person to have caught it.

Is that right, I don't have anything except some songs in my brain, I guess.

Kalpataru Barman

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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Suman,Anjan,Nachiketa,Shilajit -- eder protyeker gaan-er modhye
kom besi poschimi(country/rap....) probhaab aachhey.
Tabla, harmonium er traditional approach chherey , guitar niye
era toiri korchhey natun jagat. Eder sambol asadharon gola, aar
asambhob bhaalo sur, aar bolistho lyrics. Kintu eto kichhur
combination thik thak sobsamya hoi naa. Jar fole kichu gaan besh
sruti madhur ebong natunatter dabidaar... aar bakiguli..&!^%$#@..
Era kirakam ekta --- ekai protisthaan -- gochher....ekjonei gaan
lekhey/sur dei/ abaar gaan gai-o....oi durey aachey Pink Fl... aar
ekhaaney aami...
Era jodi sommilito bhaabe kaaj korey tobey hoito aaro bhaalo
quality-r gaan berobey......Sukanta/Salil/Hemanta-r moto
combination naa holeo .... aadhunik bangla gaaner jagatey-r
sukno jomitey khanikta shital jharna dhara dekha jete paarey.

Soumitra Bose

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Jan 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/10/97
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Pete ke jodi "onushoron" korai hoi seta to Gorbe r kotha .Suman er
kothai Wolf Biermann,Victor Jhara ,George Brassans ,Yves Montaud , eder
onushoron korar prochestar kotha achhe .E to darun khobor.

In <19970108220...@ladder01.news.aol.com> tabl...@aol.com

Soumitra Bose

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Jan 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/10/97
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Ota kintu ekta boro gimmick. NAochiketa jothestoi articulate. Orokom
ekta bhab kore nijeke prothomoto ektu rockbaaj ekta fame dite chailo ar
ditiyoto non-commital ekta bhabo rakha gelo. Trityiyoto Lungi pore hate
biri niye o aajkaal sadharonoto thake na. MAler jothesto poisha
hoieche.
Jai hok Public er lyric mondo na ,Suro o besh ...


In <5b0a0p$cg7$1...@news.eecs.umich.edu> bhat...@skynet.eecs.umich.edu

Partha Banerjee

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Jan 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/10/97
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In article <5b1m9d$iu4$1...@news.nyu.edu>, cha...@is3.nyu.edu (Sudipto
Chatterjee) wrote:

> Naeem Mohaiemen (naeem.m...@hbo.com) wrote:
> : [Ekhon Sudiphto C eshe amake jharu-peta korbe-- Shumon ar Nochiketha'r


> : nam eki sentence e niechi bole :-) ]
>

> jhhaaRaa peTaa karbo aamaar naamer baanaan bhul lekhaar janya! ingreji
> haraphe baanglaa lekhaar samay o-rakam ichchhe mato "th", "ph" prayog koro
> naa, ote bibhraaT-i hay shudhu, aar kichhu naa.
>
> : Parbo na hothe ami Romeo [....]
>
> bojhhaa-i Jaachchhe tumi Nachiketaar gaan khub EkTaa shono naa... eTaa
> Anjan Dutta-r gaan, bhaayaa!
>
> :Sudipto
_________________

Naeem bodh hoy oi ganti ("parbona hote ami romio") or signature hisebe use
korechhe, Nochiketar gan bole quote koreni | tobe amon bhabe korechhe-je
onnoder bhul hotei pare |

Nachiketar Dhaka bhromon-er khobor shune anondito holam | ami mone kori
Nachiketa akjon osadharon guni shilpi o geetikar, ebong jodio or kichhu
gan shomoporjayer noi, Nachi bangla ganer jogote ak ujjol rotno bolte amar
kono dwidha nei |

e-kotha bolar jonne Suman ba onno karo shonge Nachir tulona korar kono
dorkar nei | jamon nei Salil Chowdhury-r shonge Suman-ke tulona korar |

sayan bhattacharyya

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Jan 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/11/97
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Soumitra Bose <soum...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


"Onukoron" (mimesis) and "Honukoron" (to ape) are two different things.

The former is natural and we all do it. People can stand tall only because
they stand on the shoulders of giants. There is nothing to be ashamed of in
learning from masters. THat is how the torch is passed on from generation
to generation and across cultures.

As Pete Seger himself has written and sung:

"And when these fingers
Can strum no longer,
Give your guitar
To new arms younger ...."

Many people perhas do not know that Pete Seeger gave away his old guitar
to Suman Chattopadhyay as a token of appreciation (you can find out about
this if you watch Sudipto's documentary).

Naeem Mohaiemen

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Jan 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/11/97
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Aeonderer wrote:

>
> Naeem Mohaiemen Actually, not PSAHA> writes:
>
> >>Quite right. They are by Anjan Datta.
> >>Buro boyosh e Bangali shob gayok der gan bajna gublet kore felchi.
>
> um.. i can't read Benglish.. or don't feel like it..

Which word in the second sentence was English?

Are you referring to "gublet"?

sayan bhattacharyya

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Kalpataru Barman <ka...@mail-me.com> wrote:

>Suman,Anjan,Nachiketa,Shilajit -- eder protyeker gaan-er modhye
>kom besi poschimi(country/rap....) probhaab aachhey.

^^^^^^^
I can't discern the slightest influence of what is called "country"
music on the music of Suman Chattopadhyay. What you probably mean
is what is called in the USA "folk" music, which is quite different
from what goes by the name of "country" music.

Suman has borrowed a lot, learnt a lot and assimilated a lot from
the urban folk music of the West. He belongs to the tradition of
Phil Ochs, Woody and Arlo Guthrie, Pete Seeger, Charlie King and
Si Kahn, and you can also feel the influence of the blues in his
music.

Mariam Ispahani

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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Greetings - I clicked on this post because I thought you chaps are
talking about TAPESTERY :-) Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the
Bengali word for tapestry, "nocshikatha" ?

Mariam...(*_*)
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http://www.skypoint.com/~mariam

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