Park Street theke Dhormotola-- khadyoheen
Shoumyo Dasgupta
Boimela aaguner por abar to shuru holo. Gotokaal amar streer shonge
kotha holo. Mithu bollo ekhon abar otirikto baRabaRi kore shadharon
manush-er ojotha hoyrani.
Park Street theke Dhormotola porjonto KONO KHABAR nei.
Kono muRiwalao nei, jara agun byabohar korena. Sharadin boimelay hNete
klanto hoye khidey-teshtay hoyran. Emnitei Hawker nei, tar opor ei
chchoto chchoto khabarer dokandar gulike Pulish thengiye ber kore
diyechche.
Mithu boimelay phire giye dyakhe, lokjon tiffin-bakshe kore sandwich
niye eshechchey, ek-kone dNariye dNariye khachche. Shonge water-bottle.
Karo kachche to ar chawa jayna, taRataRi baRi phire elo.
Sheemaheen baRabaRi-r modhye amader Kolkata Kallolini Tilottoma hoye
uthchchey...
Shoumyo.
Soumitra Bose
Keno Subhash Chakroborty r sangat ra ebar Marxio sanctified fire-proff
khowar bitoron korchhe na , ba budhedev babu , ebar tini shob bangalee ke
dekhaben Jadavpur TB haspataler rasta, sudhu taNr Kaka i o pothe jabe
keno bolo????
Apratim Sarkar
A very good move. Eta permanent kore deowa uchit. Hawker tola'ta ekta
bhalo move chhilo ... ebar eta. At the minimum antrik kombe. Tiffin box'e
khabar anaye shamoshya thik kothaye?
In article <32FDFF...@silmaril.smeal.psu.edu> txd...@silmaril.smeal.psu.edu writes:
>Boimela aaguner por abar to shuru holo. Gotokaal amar streer shonge
>kotha holo. Mithu bollo ekhon abar otirikto baRabaRi kore shadharon
>manush-er ojotha hoyrani.
>
>Park Street theke Dhormotola porjonto KONO KHABAR nei.
>
>Kono muRiwalao nei, jara agun byabohar korena. Sharadin boimelay hNete
>klanto hoye khidey-teshtay hoyran. Emnitei Hawker nei, tar opor ei
>chchoto chchoto khabarer dokandar gulike Pulish thengiye ber kore
>diyechche.
>
>Mithu boimelay phire giye dyakhe, lokjon tiffin-bakshe kore sandwich
>niye eshechchey, ek-kone dNariye dNariye khachche. Shonge water-bottle.
>Karo kachche to ar chawa jayna, taRataRi baRi phire elo.
>
>Sheemaheen baRabaRi-r modhye amader Kolkata Kallolini Tilottoma hoye
>uthchchey...
>
>Shoumyo.
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Ami tabe shatshota dNaR aNati are my own and shouldn't be construed in
Pal tule di charte pNachta chhata any way to represent that of my employer.
Mithye ghure beRai na ko hate|
Apratim Sarkar
In article <8556795...@dejanews.com> asi...@atrmail2.attmail.com writes:
>In article <5do0vv$p...@inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com>,
> asa...@us.oracle.com (Apratim Sarkar) wrote:
>>
>> A very good move. Eta permanent kore deowa uchit. Hawker tola'ta ekta
>> bhalo move chhilo ... ebar eta. At the minimum antrik kombe. Tiffin box'e
>> khabar anaye shamoshya thik kothaye?
>>
>
>kulobe na ) niye ashe, tahole besh problem achhe.
Dekh Apurba, bore korish na. Boi Mela'ta ki particularly khete
jabar jaiga naki? Tui bhabkhana emon dyakhachchhish Boi Mela'ta
picnic korar jaiga. Sheetalpati niye ele kyamon hoi? Tas'r packet?
Badminton racket?
>Tachhara, Kolkata-r
>odhikangsho lok Boimelay Giye Fish Fry/Roll ityadi gorom Gorom Khabar
>khete bhalobashe.
To?
Amon adekhle'r abhab nei, manchhi. Tara na ele Boi Mela'r upokar boi
khoti hobe na. Era boi keneo na, generally beRate ashe. Era, amar
mote, na ele Boi Mela'r main je objective tar kono khoti nei, barong
baje bhiR kombe.
>HNya,jodi obbhyash paltate pare Bangalira, tahole thik achhe. Aar antrik
>rog ki Khabar theke hoi ? Jol theke hoi,- Pulish ki shadharon nagorik-er
>Rastar jol khawa bondho korte parbe ? Naki, shobai school bag-e kore
>tiffin box aar water bottle niye ghurbe,- chhele buro shobai ? ;) Ekta
>dyakhbar moto jinish hobe tahole. {Tee Hee Hee}
Jol to khaye to 10 paisa'te ek glass theke - ogulo poila target
kora uchit. Jol khete hole tubewell boshlei hoy? Rashta'r
khabar khaowa'ta Calcuttan'der jato na necessity, tar theke beshi
sort of recreation. Sutorang, abar, bore korish na, tiffin buksho
niye beronor kono darkar nei she tui'o janish, major petuk na hole.
In any case office-babu'ra generally tiffin baksho niyei office jan,
etai ami dekhechhi.
>Tobe hNya, ebar CMC-r uchit Hygene Drive shuru kora ebong shomosto
>khabar-er stall bNash-Kaporer na kore Fibre-Glass Ityadi Fire-Proof
>Material diye kora. Nijeder dosh dhakte bechara Muriwala-der upor jhal
>jhere labh ki ?
Bhalo chhuto peyechhe, tule dichchhe. Again, very wise. Kolkata'ta
bashojogyo hobe.
>-Apurba Krishna Sircar
>"I can resist everything but Temptation" - Oscar Wilde
Apratim.
Ben Lindahl
> In article <32FDFF...@silmaril.smeal.psu.edu> txd...@silmaril.smeal.psu.edu writes:
> >Boimela aaguner por abar to shuru holo. Gotokaal amar streer shonge
> >kotha holo. Mithu bollo ekhon abar otirikto baRabaRi kore shadharon
> >manush-er ojotha hoyrani.
> >
> >Park Street theke Dhormotola porjonto KONO KHABAR nei.
> >
> >Kono muRiwalao nei, jara agun byabohar korena. Sharadin boimelay hNete
> >klanto hoye khidey-teshtay hoyran. Emnitei Hawker nei, tar opor ei
> >chchoto chchoto khabarer dokandar gulike Pulish thengiye ber kore
> >diyechche.
> >
> >Mithu boimelay phire giye dyakhe, lokjon tiffin-bakshe kore sandwich
> >niye eshechchey, ek-kone dNariye dNariye khachche. Shonge water-bottle.
> >Karo kachche to ar chawa jayna, taRataRi baRi phire elo.
> >
> >Sheemaheen baRabaRi-r modhye amader Kolkata Kallolini Tilottoma hoye
> >uthchchey...
> >
> >Shoumyo.
Amar mote eta to somorthon kora uchit.
Kheye-kheyei to Bangali gelo. Shoumyobabu, Buffalo'r Main Street theke
UB obdhi ki apnar footpath'er upor ektio khabarer stall chokhe
porechchilo. Amar chchoi bochor thakakalin to poreni.
Tokhon jodi Mithu apnake sokale lunch pack kore dito tahole kolkata'teo
ba apotti kothay.
Oboshsho ekta somoshya achche. E Desh'e jemon sobaikar refrigerator
achche, Desh'e to aar sobaikar ta nei. Sutorang roj khabar toiri korte
hoi. Je lokta bhor belae Kalyani ba Bandel theke beriye pore Kolkata'e
kaje ashar jonye, tar pokhkhe sokal belae uthe bouke khabar toiri korte
bolata besh kharap dekhae. Sutorang take baire khete hobei. Se ki korbe?
Difficult decision. Hoito tader jonno kichchu dokan rakhtei hobe. Kintu
taar mane ei je khane khusi je bhabe khusi dokan gojiye uthbe.
Subho.
Kalpataru Barman
Ben Lindahl wrote:
>
> Kheye-kheyei to Bangali gelo. Shoumyobabu, Buffalo'r Main Street theke
> UB obdhi ki apnar footpath'er upor ektio khabarer stall chokhe
> porechchilo. Amar chchoi bochor thakakalin to poreni.
> Tokhon jodi Mithu apnake sokale lunch pack kore dito tahole kolkata'teo
> ba apotti kothay.
> Oboshsho ekta somoshya achche. E Desh'e jemon sobaikar refrigerator
> achche, Desh'e to aar sobaikar ta nei. Sutorang roj khabar toiri korte
> hoi. Je lokta bhor belae Kalyani ba Bandel theke beriye pore Kolkata'e
> kaje ashar jonye, tar pokhkhe sokal belae uthe bouke khabar toiri korte
> bolata besh kharap dekhae. Sutorang take baire khete hobei. Se ki korbe?
> Difficult decision. Hoito tader jonno kichchu dokan rakhtei hobe. Kintu
> taar mane ei je khane khusi je bhabe khusi dokan gojiye uthbe.
>
> Subho.
Subho-babu,
Kolkatar rasta-i khabar-er eto stall keno balun-to ? Keno-na
loke kine khai ? aar keno khai ? Sashta boley !! Bhabun karo
Park St baa BBD Bag elakai khidey peyechhey, ebong kono rastaaar
temporary khabaar jaiga nei, tokhon taakey Great Eastern baa
Park baa Farini's ..e khetey hobey -- bhalo korey pet bhorey
khetey gele prai Rs.50-100 er dhakka.
Aar jodi edesher rastai khabar-er kotha bolen, ta, New York-er
rasta-i to HotDog baa Pretzel/Coke er anek footpather dokan aachhey.
Keno-na okhaney sara bachhor rastai lok haatey, tara khabar kene.
ek-i katha LA/Chicago-er khetreo projojya.
sayan bhattacharyya
In article <3307D5...@Lindahl.com>, Ben Lindahl <B...@Lindahl.com> wrote:
>Je lokta bhor belae Kalyani ba Bandel theke beriye pore Kolkata'e
>kaje ashar jonye, tar pokhkhe sokal belae uthe bouke khabar toiri korte
>bolata besh kharap dekhae.
I agree with your point, BUT just a side comment...
Why do you assume that the officegoer is invariably male? Isn't that
a rather sexist assumption?
Many women also commute to work from the suburbs every day.
Apratim Sarkar
Kalpataru Barman (ka...@mail-me.com) wrote:
: Subho-babu,
: Kolkatar rasta-i khabar-er eto stall keno balun-to ? Keno-na
: loke kine khai ? aar keno khai ? Sashta boley !! Bhabun karo
: Park St baa BBD Bag elakai khidey peyechhey, ebong kono rastaaar
: temporary khabaar jaiga nei, tokhon taakey Great Eastern baa
: Park baa Farini's ..e khetey hobey -- bhalo korey pet bhorey
: khetey gele prai Rs.50-100 er dhakka.
O'i elekate ar kono khabar'r paka dokan apnar chokhe poRlo na
Kalpatarubabu? Free School Street stretch'ta, New Market'r
pechhon'ta? Granted shekhaneo muri makha paowa jabe na.
Kintu 50-100'o lagbe na.
Ar sashta manei ki defendable? Public'r poisa'te electricity
jheRe ki be-aini generator chaliye pollution baRiye, bus stand'r
adhkhana hajom kore fele (jate lok'e rashtate dNaRai, jam hoy,
accident'o hoy) bhaRa na diye sashta'te paRa'r roll'r dokan
chalatei hobe? Apni-ami to aram'e bidesh'e thaki, Kolkata'r
lokerder nijerder byabostha nijeder korte dile kyamon hoy?
Hawker tolate ja public support dekhe elum amar suspicion
khabar stall tolateo eki rakom support thakbe. Mone rakhben,
hawker'rao sashta'te jinish dito.
: Aar jodi edesher rastai khabar-er kotha bolen, ta, New York-er
: rasta-i to HotDog baa Pretzel/Coke er anek footpather dokan aachhey.
: Keno-na okhaney sara bachhor rastai lok haatey, tara khabar kene.
: ek-i katha LA/Chicago-er khetreo projojya.
NY, LA, Chicago ki USA'r basojogyo sahor'r talika'r ekebare
nichu'r diker sahor na?
Apratim.
Dr. Subho Mozumdar
Kalpataru Barman wrote:
>
> Ben Lindahl wrote:
> >
> > Kheye-kheyei to Bangali gelo. Shoumyobabu, Buffalo'r Main Street theke
> > UB obdhi ki apnar footpath'er upor ektio khabarer stall chokhe
> > porechchilo. Amar chchoi bochor thakakalin to poreni.
> > Tokhon jodi Mithu apnake sokale lunch pack kore dito tahole kolkata'teo
> > ba apotti kothay.
> > Oboshsho ekta somoshya achche. E Desh'e jemon sobaikar refrigerator
> > achche, Desh'e to aar sobaikar ta nei. Sutorang roj khabar toiri korte
> > kaje ashar jonye, tar pokhkhe sokal belae uthe bouke khabar toiri korte
> > Difficult decision. Hoito tader jonno kichchu dokan rakhtei hobe. Kintu
> > taar mane ei je khane khusi je bhabe khusi dokan gojiye uthbe.
> >
> > Subho.
>
>
> Kolkatar rasta-i khabar-er eto stall keno balun-to ? Keno-na
> loke kine khai ? aar keno khai ? Sashta boley !! Bhabun karo
> Park St baa BBD Bag elakai khidey peyechhey, ebong kono rastaaar
> temporary khabaar jaiga nei, tokhon taakey Great Eastern baa
> Park baa Farini's ..e khetey hobey -- bhalo korey pet bhorey
> khetey gele prai Rs.50-100 er dhakka.
> rasta-i to HotDog baa Pretzel/Coke er anek footpather dokan aachhey.
> Keno-na okhaney sara bachhor rastai lok haatey, tara khabar kene.
> ek-i katha LA/Chicago-er khetreo projojya.
Etokhone ekta thik kotha elo Bangali'r mukh theke.
Ami ekbar'o bolini je rasta'r theke khabar kine khaoa onay. Jodi karur
sotiyi khide pay tobe se khabe na keno. Kintu onek somoi ki eta apnar
mone hoini je khide nei tobuo chekhe dekhar jonno danriye porlam -
jetake bole "Chokhher Khide". Amar mone hoi eta onekei kore thake.
Jai hok setao nahoi personal byapar. After all, Bharotborsho ba
Bangladesh'er theke e Desh'ei boroncho khaddolobhir sonkhya beshi.
Amar boktobbo je khabar'er dokan korte oshubidha nei, tobe setake ektu
hygeinic kora dorkar. Dokandar, bogol chulke, *** chulke, nak jhere, sei
hate khabar makhchche, machi bhon-bhon kore urchche, agun
jekhane-sekhane jolchche, e gulo karap. Sadhoro nagorikder esob dike
dekha uchit. Chesta korlei amader Kolkata'ke sundor kore tulte pari
ebong sekhane amder oitijhjho-gulo'o bojai thakbe. Bhebe dekhun aaj
Kolkata'r Metro amader kachche ekta gorber byapar. Etaki sombhobpor hoto
Kolkata'r Manush'er sadhoron civic sense chchara.
Subho.
Dr. Subho Mozumdar
sayan bhattacharyya wrote:
>
> In article <3307D5...@Lindahl.com>, Ben Lindahl <B...@Lindahl.com> wrote:
>
> >kaje ashar jonye, tar pokhkhe sokal belae uthe bouke khabar toiri korte
> >bolata besh kharap dekhae.
>
>
> Why do you assume that the officegoer is invariably male? Isn't that
> a rather sexist assumption?
>
> Many women also commute to work from the suburbs every day.
Sobete jodi chchele-meye khunjte boshi tahole ki aar jibon cholbe. Ektu
bibechona korle bujhjhben je jegulo Prurush'der upor projojjo, segulo
Mohilader uporeo. Sutorang case'gulo ulto kore neben.
Somoy beshi achche bole net'e bhool-bhaal likhben na. Boss'ke bolun
arektu kichchu kaaj dite.
Subho.
Kalpataru Barman
Apratim Sarkar wrote:
>
> Kalpataru Barman (ka...@mail-me.com) wrote:
>
> : Subho-babu,
>
> : Kolkatar rasta-i khabar-er eto stall keno balun-to ? Keno-na
> : loke kine khai ? aar keno khai ? Sashta boley !! Bhabun karo
> : Park St baa BBD Bag elakai khidey peyechhey, ebong kono rastaaar
> : temporary khabaar jaiga nei, tokhon taakey Great Eastern baa
> : Park baa Farini's ..e khetey hobey -- bhalo korey pet bhorey
> : khetey gele prai Rs.50-100 er dhakka.
>
> Kalpatarubabu? Free School Street stretch'ta, New Market'r
> pechhon'ta? Granted shekhaneo muri makha paowa jabe na.
> Kintu 50-100'o lagbe na.
>
> Ar sashta manei ki defendable? Public'r poisa'te electricity
> jheRe ki be-aini generator chaliye pollution baRiye, bus stand'r
> adhkhana hajom kore fele (jate lok'e rashtate dNaRai, jam hoy,
> accident'o hoy) bhaRa na diye sashta'te paRa'r roll'r dokan
> chalatei hobe? Apni-ami to aram'e bidesh'e thaki, Kolkata'r
> lokerder nijerder byabostha nijeder korte dile kyamon hoy?
> Hawker tolate ja public support dekhe elum amar suspicion
> khabar stall tolateo eki rakom support thakbe. Mone rakhben,
> hawker'rao sashta'te jinish dito.
>
*** Prasanga-ta chhilo ,Bangali-der khadya-priti ebong raastar
khabar niye. Keno sob mega city te-i kombesi rasta-r khabar paowa
jai, aar keno-i baa loke sei khabar kene -- e-gulo niye-i alochona
hochhilo.
Rastai khabarer dokan mega city-r choritrgato boisishto.
> : Aar jodi edesher rastai khabar-er kotha bolen, ta, New York-er
> : rasta-i to HotDog baa Pretzel/Coke er anek footpather dokan aachhey.
> : Keno-na okhaney sara bachhor rastai lok haatey, tara khabar kene.
> : ek-i katha LA/Chicago-er khetreo projojya.
>
> NY, LA, Chicago ki USA'r basojogyo sahor'r talika'r ekebare
> nichu'r diker sahor na.
*** Ekatha edesher poripekhhitey thik, kenona ekhankar chhoto sahor
gulo besh basobasjogya.
>
> Apratim.
Snehasis Ganguly
Apratim Sarkar (asa...@bu.edu) wrote:
: chalatei hobe? Apni-ami to aram'e bidesh'e thaki, Kolkata'r
Aram ta physical. Eiykhane mental stress onek beshi.
Desher babura beshir bhag besh sukher chakri kore|
aar Boston-ete gari chalanotao je khub sukher noi, setai
amar mone holo|
Snehasis
Apratim Sarkar
Na chalalei holo, minute'e minute'e T ashchhe. Tumi to ja dekhchhi
Snehasis "O'i mental stress dhorlo re baba!" e'i niyei stressed hoye
gele. Ektu jheRe kashbe kothaye tomar eto stress?
Snehasis Ganguly
Apratim Sarkar (asa...@us.oracle.com) wrote:
: In article <5eim3v$h...@news.clarkson.edu> sn...@stress.mie.clarkson.edu (Snehasis Ganguly) writes:
: Na chalalei holo, minute'e minute'e T ashchhe. Tumi to ja dekhchhi
: Snehasis "O'i mental stress dhorlo re baba!" e'i niyei stressed hoye
: gele. Ektu jheRe kashbe kothaye tomar eto stress?
: Apratim.
Sei purono Apratim! What-you-see-is-what-you-get!
Sobcher boro stress holo chakri jabar bhoi aar
faster pace of life.
Dadu
No Snehasis,
That's not the biggest stress. You are only exaggerating your fears. A
faster pace of life is OK if you can catch up. Its once you wrote, the
trouble is with whom who can't catch up. Its very true. Aar, neNgta nai
baatpaDer bhoi; chaakri gele jaabe; Do you fear, you'd die out of
hunger? That's the biggest fear. I've been long enough through my life;
I never drove a car, and living happily, and plan both not to drive a
car, and be without any stress.
best wishes, Dadu
Sharmila Mukherjee
Apratim Sarkar wrote:
[..]
Tumi to ja dekhchhi
> : > : Snehasis "O'i mental stress dhorlo re baba!" e'i niyei stressed hoye
> : > : gele. Ektu jheRe kashbe kothaye tomar eto stress?
> : >
> : > : Apratim.
> : >
> : > Sei purono Apratim! What-you-see-is-what-you-get!
> : > Sobcher boro stress holo chakri jabar bhoi aar
> : > faster pace of life.
>
> Chakri'r baire'r pace of life to personal byapar.
Personal byapar nishchoi, but it may not be entirely your own personal
choice.
Ar chakri'te,
> skilled professional'der bhoy'e thaka'r kono evidence dite paro?
> Personal anecdote, statistical evidence, anything?
Dekhun Apratimbabu, aei kothata ki manen je pink slip-er bhoi e deshe
beshi? Snehasis bodh hoi she kothatai bolte cheyechhilo....ekhane aykta
constant, not-so-invisible pressure aachhe to prove yourself at every
point, day-in day-out, which almost borders on paranoia; especially for
people who have had the opportunity to work in both the countries and
are better able to compare.
Sharmila
--
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success
is sure.
-- Mark Twain
Robin Chatterjee
O.k heres my two cents..Or duti poisha,
aikane redundancy er bhoi definitely beshi aache...Especially in the
newer forms of jobs like computers (which is where I work so I can say
so ).Deshe even if you are fair to middling in performance there is such
a high need for skilled people (because of the brain drain) that some
one in computers has pretty good job security...In large companies there
is much less need to perform..At least thats what I have seen
--
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Soumitri Mukherjee
Sharmila Mukherjee wrote:
>
> Apratim Sarkar wrote:
> >
> > : Snehasis Ganguly wrote:
> > : >
> > : > Apratim Sarkar (asa...@us.oracle.com) wrote:
>
> [..]
> Tumi to ja dekhchhi
> > : > : Snehasis "O'i mental stress dhorlo re baba!" e'i niyei stressed hoye
> > : > : gele. Ektu jheRe kashbe kothaye tomar eto stress?
> > : >
> > : > : Apratim.
> > : >
> > : > Sei purono Apratim! What-you-see-is-what-you-get!
> > : > Sobcher boro stress holo chakri jabar bhoi aar
> > : > faster pace of life.
> >
> > Chakri'r baire'r pace of life to personal byapar.
>
> Personal byapar nishchoi, but it may not be entirely your own personal
> choice.
>
> Ar chakri'te,
> > skilled professional'der bhoy'e thaka'r kono evidence dite paro?
> > Personal anecdote, statistical evidence, anything?
>
> Dekhun Apratimbabu, aei kothata ki manen je pink slip-er bhoi e deshe
> beshi? Snehasis bodh hoi she kothatai bolte cheyechhilo....ekhane aykta
> constant, not-so-invisible pressure aachhe to prove yourself at every
> point, day-in day-out, which almost borders on paranoia;
----taai ki sharmila debi? aamar to mone hoy jaara ektu paranoid taarai
aage etaake paranoia hishebe nebe! aar jaara ektu challenging person
taara aei challenge ke stepping stone hishebe niye jibone at least
orthonoitik ogrogoti'r dike egiye jaabe! aapni khNoj niye dekhte paaren
je aeideshe jyamon pink-slip paowa'r adhikkyo onek beshi sheirokomi
enterprising entrepreneur-der shonkhyao onek beshi, aar technology'r
ogrogoti'r shaathe shaathe taader shonkhya-o onek beDe jachchhe! SBA-te
aeirokom lokeder jhuri jhuri example aachhe! aar jodi bolen je proti
pode pode nijeder upojogita-ta promaan kora'r dorkaar nei, ta'le to
hoyei gyalo, aykbar nijeder upojogi promaan kore chaakri-te dhuke,
shaara jibon Thanger opor Thang tule, taai bhaangiye khaan! aaraamer
jibon upovog korun! mondo ki bolun! aar shei shukher chaakri jodi
"gormente'r" poyshaay hoy to aaro bhaalo, kono boss-e chokh raangate
paarbe na, mone mone tokhon bolte paarben je "saala, public-er poyshaay
kachchhi, tor baaper poyshaay ki kachchhi?" ----aeita jaanben sharmila
debi je aeideshe at least nijeke protipode nijer upojogita-ta promaan
korte hoy bole bojhaa jaay je shomaaj theke aapni kotota nichchhen aar
taar bodole shomaajke kototaa dichchhen! shetaa aamar mote jibone'r
aykta mosto boDo measurment!
especially for people who have had the opportunity to work in both the
countries and
> are better able to compare.----sure sharmila debi, better comparisons lead to betterment of life, and that goes without any proof!
Apratim Sarkar
: >
: > : Na chalalei holo, minute'e minute'e T ashchhe. Tumi to ja dekhchhi
: > : Snehasis "O'i mental stress dhorlo re baba!" e'i niyei stressed hoye
: > : gele. Ektu jheRe kashbe kothaye tomar eto stress?
: >
: > : Apratim.
: >
: > Sei purono Apratim! What-you-see-is-what-you-get!
: > Sobcher boro stress holo chakri jabar bhoi aar
: > faster pace of life.
Chakri'r baire'r pace of life to personal byapar. Ar chakri'te,
skilled professional'der bhoy'e thaka'r kono evidence dite paro?
Personal anecdote, statistical evidence, anything? Ami dutoi dite
pari jeta tomar paranoid stand'r contradictory. Given that skilled
jobs are enjoying salary raises far outpacing inflation, ami jani na
tomar source'ta thik ki!
As for unskilled folks, at least they can get a low-paying
minimum-wage (so-called) Mcjob in USA. Please note the unemployment
figures. And with such jobs they can afford a TV and a car.
Such folks simply die of starvation in India. Tai eshob shuni ar
bhabi, khetekhute USA'te eshe gele ektu adhtu strees-bilas'r odhikaar
ki by default visa'r shonge deowa hoy naki?
Apratim.
Dadu
Sharmila Mukherjee wrote:
>
> Apratim Sarkar wrote:
> >
...del....
>
> Ar chakri'te,
> > skilled professional'der bhoy'e thaka'r kono evidence dite paro?
> > Personal anecdote, statistical evidence, anything?
>
> Dekhun Apratimbabu, aei kothata ki manen je pink slip-er bhoi e deshe
> beshi? Snehasis bodh hoi she kothatai bolte cheyechhilo....ekhane aykta
> constant, not-so-invisible pressure aachhe to prove yourself at every
> point, day-in day-out, which almost borders on paranoia; especially for
> people who have had the opportunity to work in both the countries and
> are better able to compare.
Sharmila,
May be you remember, the famous Bengali say, "---- naai baatpaDer bhoi".
Chaakri jaabar voi boDo noi, but insecurity is the problem. But a lot of
other things are still arround. One can find another job, if not, go
back to India- the biggest bliss of being Indian (and I didn't change my
nationality, though it would have given me a lot more privilages) is
that, we can always go back to India. and after a Ph.D. in any subject,
one need not die out of hunger, can do a lot of things. Even earn
virtually the same salary as at least in Europe.
I have had the "opportunity" of working in one of the biggest Govt.
sectors in India. OK, the job was secured; I had to come to office at
9.00. And then the rest of the day was free. I could do (and had to do)
everything else other than work. True, I had a good time in roaming
arround from Lodi Gardens to Nijamuddin, to Pragati Maidan to Safdarjung
to RK Puram to IP college to JNU and all that. I even got enough salary
to make me an eligible bachelor, but as an engineer, I didn't have
anything satisfying. After getting bored with 'security' I wanted to
leave the job, which the "President was pleased" not to release me for
another year. And guess what? I jumped this time into a Govt.
undertaking- which promised to have better work! It took three months
for me to decide to leave this job.
>
> Sharmila
>
> --
> All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success
> is sure.
> -- Mark Twain
Is this banner to all SCBites?
Dadu
Sharmila Mukherjee
Soumitri Mukherjee wrote:
>
> Sharmila Mukherjee wrote:
[...]
> > Dekhun Apratimbabu, aei kothata ki manen je pink slip-er bhoi e deshe
> > beshi? Snehasis bodh hoi she kothatai bolte cheyechhilo....ekhane aykta
> > constant, not-so-invisible pressure aachhe to prove yourself at every
> > point, day-in day-out, which almost borders on paranoia;
>
> ----taai ki sharmila debi? aamar to mone hoy jaara ektu paranoid taarai
> aage etaake paranoia hishebe nebe! aar jaara ektu challenging person
> taara aei challenge ke stepping stone hishebe niye jibone at least
> orthonoitik ogrogoti'r dike egiye jaabe!
E aar notun kotha ki Soumitribabu, we are all aware of `survival of the
fittest'. But that does not rule out the fact that this is indeed a
difficult situation for those who are not so `challenging', and those
people have had enough of sermonizing if you ask me.
National Pension Admin.Corp.
aami to taader jonnye onnyo alternative-taao likhechhilaam aamar aager
posting-a. shetaa conveniently kete baad dilen kyano, sharmila debi? if
they don't like this survival of fittest rat race of 'shape in or ship
out' policies, and on top if they had experienced the much calmer
blissful life elsewhere, then there shouldn't be any discontent, isn't
it sharmila debi?
then they should be all in that peaceful land,
enjoying life while counting grains of sand !
surely they shoudn't be hearing anybody's grouchy complain,
'and they can give a fuck to that'--'coz they needn't explain!!
what a life sharmila debi, what a life!
i wonder how people in this rat-race survive?
perhaps they are all subject to that 'not-so-invisible pressure',
but may be at the end of the journey they all would like to measure,
of how much they have taken and given back to this racing society
before they are read their final sermon on their way to mortality!!
----soumitri
Sharmila Mukherjee
Apratim Sarkar wrote:
>
> Sharmila Mukherjee <s...@vishnu.3dem.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu> writes:
> >Apratim Sarkar wrote:
>
> >> Chakri'r baire'r pace of life to personal byapar.
> >
> >
> >choice.
>
Na. Orthaat boss-er mon rakhte buro boyoshe squash khele hNatu-ta gyalo
ga!
>
> > Ar chakri'te,
> >> skilled professional'der bhoy'e thaka'r kono evidence dite paro?
> >> Personal anecdote, statistical evidence, anything?
> >
> > Dekhun Apratimbabu, aei kothata ki manen je pink slip-er bhoi e deshe
> >beshi?
>
> Mani na, karon amra skilled job'r kotha bolchhilum. Dekhun typically
> full employment'i skilled job'e company'gulo korte pare na, they are
> always hiring to fill up the empty slots. Ami to barong dekhte pai
> sufficiently qualified lok nei.
Chollisha-i dhorechhe moshai, ebaar choshma-ta nin.
E'i jaigai, chakri jete ki range'r
> jholate hobe sheta bhabte parchhen?
Aar deshe chaakri jete Apratimbabu? Sheta-r kotha bollen na je?
[...]
> Deshe kaaj korle overtime paowa jai bole shunechhi,
Je dhoroner kaajer kotha aamra aalochona korchhi, jai na Apratimbabu.
maine pete
> hole asha jaowa'i jathesto.
Aapni kon decade-e poDe aachhen bolunto?
Agreed, nothing ever may beat a free
> lunch. She obhyashe kaaj korte holei jodi karur stress hoy, tobe
> aboshyo apnar katha'i ekta jukti achhe, mantei hobe. Tobe problem'ta
> kothay she byapare agreement'e asha jabe kina jani na.
Hain, aamar-o tai mone hoi.
Apratim Sarkar
>> Chakri'r baire'r pace of life to personal byapar.
>
>
> Personal byapar nishchoi, but it may not be entirely your own personal
>choice.
Orthat o paRa'r Panu amar shonar chhele'ke bokhiye dilo ga?
> Ar chakri'te,
>> skilled professional'der bhoy'e thaka'r kono evidence dite paro?
>> Personal anecdote, statistical evidence, anything?
>
> Dekhun Apratimbabu, aei kothata ki manen je pink slip-er bhoi e deshe
>beshi?
Mani na, karon amra skilled job'r kotha bolchhilum. Dekhun typically
full employment'i skilled job'e company'gulo korte pare na, they are
always hiring to fill up the empty slots. Ami to barong dekhte pai
sufficiently qualified lok nei. E'i jaigai, chakri jete ki range'r
jholate hobe sheta bhabte parchhen? Lay offs are a different issue,
though. Kintu shekhane to nijer performance baRiye kichhu hobe na,
tai shedike pressure nei.
>Snehasis bodh hoi she kothatai bolte cheyechhilo....ekhane aykta
>constant, not-so-invisible pressure aachhe to prove yourself at every
>point, day-in day-out, which almost borders on paranoia;
Dhora nei, chhNoa nei, bhari shokto?
>especially for
>people who have had the opportunity to work in both the countries and
>are better able to compare.
Deshe kaaj korle overtime paowa jai bole shunechhi, maine pete
hole asha jaowa'i jathesto. Agreed, nothing ever may beat a free
lunch. She obhyashe kaaj korte holei jodi karur stress hoy, tobe
aboshyo apnar katha'i ekta jukti achhe, mantei hobe. Tobe problem'ta
kothay she byapare agreement'e asha jabe kina jani na.
>Sharmila
Apratim Sarkar
Sharmila Mukherjee <s...@vishnu.3dem.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu> writes:
> Na. Orthaat boss-er mon rakhte buro boyoshe squash khele hNatu-ta gyalo
>ga!
Eta ki apnar personal experience? Ki shanghatik! E shob to colonial
India'te hoto shunechhi.
>> Mani na, karon amra skilled job'r kotha bolchhilum. Dekhun typically
>> full employment'i skilled job'e company'gulo korte pare na, they are
>> always hiring to fill up the empty slots. Ami to barong dekhte pai
>> sufficiently qualified lok nei.
>
> Chollisha-i dhorechhe moshai, ebaar choshma-ta nin.
Nile ki lok paowa jabe? Dekhun hopta'te ghonta charek interview korte
amar moteo bhalo lage na, ar dujon'r kaaj korteo na. Robbar'r
employment ad section'ta ektu poRe dekhun na? Ekta different
perspective paben.
> E'i jaigai, chakri jete ki range'r
>> jholate hobe sheta bhabte parchhen?
>
> Aar deshe chaakri jete Apratimbabu? Sheta-r kotha bollen na je?
Desh'r private sector'e ajkaal "at will" employment boshtu'ti hoi
hoi kore dhuke poRechhe Sharmiladebi. Kon decade'r kotha bhabchhen
bolun to? Bachhor'e aDai-tin lakh ki emni emni ashbe?
>> Deshe kaaj korle overtime paowa jai bole shunechhi,
>
> Je dhoroner kaajer kotha aamra aalochona korchhi, jai na Apratimbabu.
>
> maine pete
>> hole asha jaowa'i jathesto.
>
> Aapni kon decade-e poDe aachhen bolunto?
70's'r slogan ota (asi jai maine pai, kaaj korle overtime chai).
Apnader ha-hutash dekhe bhablam apnara'i appreciate korben.
But I agree with you, India has changed a lot in the last few years,
and the private sector these days at least is not much different from
the private sector here. What I don't understand is, tai jodi hoy,
tahole ar apnara USA'te ki stress re baba kheye fello bole kNadchhen
kyano? Desh'e'o to eki scene. As for public sector, compare jodi
korben'i to edesh'r public sector'r shonge korun. Shekhane aboshyo
apnader ekta point thakbe, eta manbo. Tobe koddin thakbe jani na
(thankfully).
> Agreed, nothing ever may beat a free
>> lunch. She obhyashe kaaj korte holei jodi karur stress hoy, tobe
>> aboshyo apnar katha'i ekta jukti achhe, mantei hobe. Tobe problem'ta
>> kothay she byapare agreement'e asha jabe kina jani na.
>
> Hain, aamar-o tai mone hoi.
>
Sharmila Mukherjee
Apratim Sarkar wrote:
>
> Sharmila Mukherjee <s...@vishnu.3dem.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu> writes:
>
> > Na. Orthaat boss-er mon rakhte buro boyoshe squash khele hNatu-ta gyalo
> >ga!
>
> Eta ki apnar personal experience?
Na, :-)
Ki shanghatik! E shob to colonial
> India'te hoto shunechhi.
Uthun, jaagun, dekhun.
> > Chollisha-i dhorechhe moshai, ebaar choshma-ta nin.
>
> Nile ki lok paowa jabe? Dekhun hopta'te ghonta charek interview korte
> amar moteo bhalo lage na, ar dujon'r kaaj korteo na. Robbar'r
> employment ad section'ta ektu poRe dekhun na? Ekta different
> perspective paben.
Aapnar e shob kothai kintu Snehasis-er stress naamti-r pothe, ki bolo
Snehasis?
Sharmila
Apratim Sarkar
Soumitri kobita post korte shuru korar por theke SCB ekta alada dimension
peyechhe.
Apratim.
Soumitri Mukherjee
je jebhaabe nebe!:)
---soumitri
Sharmila Mukherjee
>
> >> Eta ki apnar personal experience?
> >
> > Na, :-)
>
Ekhane ektu clarification dorkar. For some reason, aapnar proshnota
aami bhul bujhechhilaam, mone hoyechhilo aapni jiggesh korchhilen je ota
aamar nijer experience kina. Tai aami `na' bolechilaam. Actually kintu
eta amaar aykjon porichito-r experience. Boss-er mon rakhar jonnyo tini
robibar hole-i club ghaDe kore ball thukte jaan baDite bou jotoi gaal
folan na kyano. Aymon ki gNater poisha khoroch kore Mardi Gras-te
float-e uthe sharadin matlaami-o kore thaken, proti bochhor. Aamra heshe
thaaki ebong onake aaDale hoito keu keu merudondoheen-o bole thaaken,
kintu onar obostha tothoibocho.
Sharmila
--
"Until now, there has been no philosopher in
whose hands philosophy has not become an apology for knowledge."
Snehasis Ganguly
Dadu (Shyam.Ch...@hut.fi) wrote:
: I have had the "opportunity" of working in one of the biggest Govt.
: sectors in India. OK, the job was secured; I had to come to office at
: 9.00. And then the rest of the day was free. I could do (and had to do)
: everything else other than work. True, I had a good time in roaming
: arround from Lodi Gardens to Nijamuddin, to Pragati Maidan to Safdarjung
: to RK Puram to IP college to JNU and all that. I even got enough salary
: to make me an eligible bachelor, but as an engineer, I didn't have
: anything satisfying. After getting bored with 'security' I wanted to
You could have studied on your own. I used to do that.
: leave the job, which the "President was pleased" not to release me for
: another year. And guess what? I jumped this time into a Govt.
: undertaking- which promised to have better work! It took three months
: for me to decide to leave this job.
For me, I was much more motivated when I was working there.
Not now.
: >
--
India-monsoon and marigold, dung and dust, colors and corpses ,
smoke and ash, snow and endless myth- is a cruel, unrelenting
place of ineffable sweetness. It is the most difficult and most
rewarding of places to travel.
-James O'Reilly
Apratim Sarkar
Sharmila Mukherjee (s...@vishnu.3dem.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu) wrote:
: Apratim Sarkar wrote:
: >
: > Sharmila Mukherjee <s...@vishnu.3dem.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu> writes:
: > >Apratim Sarkar wrote:
: >
: > >> Eta ki apnar personal experience?
: > >
: > > Na, :-)
: >
: > Mantei hobe tahole apnar jabordast kalponashokti.
: Ekhane ektu clarification dorkar. For some reason, aapnar proshnota
: aami bhul bujhechhilaam, mone hoyechhilo aapni jiggesh korchhilen je ota
: aamar nijer experience kina. Tai aami `na' bolechilaam. Actually kintu
: eta amaar aykjon porichito-r experience. Boss-er mon rakhar jonnyo tini
: robibar hole-i club ghaDe kore ball thukte jaan baDite bou jotoi gaal
: folan na kyano. Aymon ki gNater poisha khoroch kore Mardi Gras-te
: float-e uthe sharadin matlaami-o kore thaken, proti bochhor. Aamra heshe
: thaaki ebong onake aaDale hoito keu keu merudondoheen-o bole thaaken,
: kintu onar obostha tothoibocho.
Mene nilam je oti real, kalpona noi. USA bichitro desh, sandeho nei.
Tobe o'i ekti example dekhei generalize kore fellen? Apnara jNara
hNeshe thaken, tader'ta na dekhe?
: Sharmila
Apratim.
PS: Bolte nei, tobe enar chakri thakle hoy.
Sharmila Mukherjee
Apratim Sarkar wrote:
> : > Sharmila Mukherjee <s...@vishnu.3dem.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu> writes:
[..]
Boss-er mon rakhar jonnyo tini
> : robibar hole-i club ghaDe kore ball thukte jaan baDite bou jotoi gaal
> : folan na kyano. Aymon ki gNater poisha khoroch kore Mardi Gras-te
> : float-e uthe sharadin matlaami-o kore thaken, proti bochhor. Aamra heshe
> : thaaki ebong onake aaDale hoito keu keu merudondoheen-o bole thaaken,
> : kintu onar obostha tothoibocho.
>
> Mene nilam je oti real, kalpona noi. USA bichitro desh, sandeho nei.
>
> Tobe o'i ekti example dekhei generalize kore fellen? Apnara jNara
> hNeshe thaken, tader'ta na dekhe?
Aare dur moshai, generalize ke korechhe? Kotha hochchhilo Snehasis-er
aar tar moto aaro oneker-i stress niye....
>
> : Sharmila
>
> Apratim.
>
> PS: Bolte nei, tobe enar chakri thakle hoy.
Oi-ee, ghure-fire shei `stress', :-)
Snehasis Ganguly
National Pension Admin.Corp. (smu...@erols.com) wrote:
: Sharmila Mukherjee wrote:
: >
: > Soumitri Mukherjee wrote:
: > >
: > > Sharmila Mukherjee wrote:
: >
: > [...]
: > > > Dekhun Apratimbabu, aei kothata ki manen je pink slip-er bhoi e deshe
: > > > beshi? Snehasis bodh hoi she kothatai bolte cheyechhilo....ekhane aykta
: > > > constant, not-so-invisible pressure aachhe to prove yourself at every
: > > > point, day-in day-out, which almost borders on paranoia;
: > > ----taai ki sharmila debi? aamar to mone hoy jaara ektu paranoid taarai
: > > aage etaake paranoia hishebe nebe! aar jaara ektu challenging person
: > > taara aei challenge ke stepping stone hishebe niye jibone at least
: > > orthonoitik ogrogoti'r dike egiye jaabe!
: >
: > E aar notun kotha ki Soumitribabu, we are all aware of `survival of the
: > fittest'. But that does not rule out the fact that this is indeed a
: > difficult situation for those who are not so `challenging', and those
: > people have had enough of sermonizing if you ask me.
: > Sharmila
: >
: > --
: > All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success
: > is sure.
: > -- Mark Twain
: aami to taader jonnye onnyo alternative-taao likhechhilaam aamar aager
: posting-a. shetaa conveniently kete baad dilen kyano, sharmila debi? if
: they don't like this survival of fittest rat race of 'shape in or ship
Survival of the fittest is a jungle concept. Aamr money
hoey survive korar janyo churi,dakati, khun sob allowed
kora uchit| Jungle- eiy shikar er somoi fair fight boro
ekt ahoena|
Ami tai kortam, eksomoi Archimedes o korechilen
: out' policies, and on top if they had experienced the much calmer
: blissful life elsewhere, then there shouldn't be any discontent, isn't
: it sharmila debi?
haiN, eto jhamela janle ki aar suitcase pack kore aasha
hoto naaki, moidane giye chola bhaja khetum|
: then they should be all in that peaceful land,
: enjoying life while counting grains of sand !
: surely they shoudn't be hearing anybody's grouchy complain,
Desher oto ninde korle tader ektu kastho hobe boiki|
: 'and they can give a fuck to that'--'coz they needn't explain!!
: what a life sharmila debi, what a life!
: i wonder how people in this rat-race survive?
: perhaps they are all subject to that 'not-so-invisible pressure',
Admit korechen tahole!
: but may be at the end of the journey they all would like to measure,
: of how much they have taken and given back to this racing society
: before they are read their final sermon on their way to mortality!!
The only thing that needs to be a measured is the
length of the shroud at the time of burial.
: ----soumitri
Soumitri Mukherjee
onaake jiggyesh korun onaar otaa bolaa appropriate hoyechhe kina!:)
> Ami tai kortam, eksomoi Archimedes o korechilen
aabar Archimedes-ke daakchhen kyano aei baajare? nijeke onaar shaathe
tulona koren naaki?:)---ta'le aapni to bikkhyato lok moshaai! aar
sharmila debi aapnar bondhu, a to aamar mosto boDo shoubhaggyo, pronaam
nin aapnara aamar, pronaam nin!
>
> : out' policies, and on top if they had experienced the much calmer
> : blissful life elsewhere, then there shouldn't be any discontent, isn't
> : it sharmila debi?
>
> haiN, eto jhamela janle ki aar suitcase pack kore aasha
> hoto naaki, moidane giye chola bhaja khetum|
>
taa jaa bolechhen, oi gormenter chaakri kore moydaane chholabhaaja
khaowar ofuronto shomoy peten!:)---sharmila debi ebaar aar Archimedes-er
hoye shudhui likhben naaki? shongye dutaakar chholabhaajao kine deben!:)
>
> : then they should be all in that peaceful land,
> : enjoying life while counting grains of sand !
> : surely they shoudn't be hearing anybody's grouchy complain,
>
> Desher oto ninde korle tader ektu kastho hobe boiki|
aami aabar deshe'r ninde korlaam kokhon? borong bollaam to oi baali'r
daanaa gunte gunte chholaabhaaja khaan!:)---jaanen ki chholaa bhaajte
baali'r dorkaar hoy, pore shei baali gulo chhNeke nite hoy! taai na
sharmila debi?:)
>
> : 'and they can give a fuck to that'--'coz they needn't explain!!
>
> : what a life sharmila debi, what a life!
> : i wonder how people in this rat-race survive?
> : perhaps they are all subject to that 'not-so-invisible pressure',
>
> Admit korechen tahole!
> ---aare aami kyano admit korbona, after all sharmila debi to nijei bolechhen je 'not-so-invisible pressure' royechhe! aapni shutogulo Thik kore poDchhen to Snehasis babu? shuto chhNiDe gelei kintu aykkebaare vokatta!:) Thik bolini sharmila debi?:)
> : but may be at the end of the journey they all would like to measure,
> : of how much they have taken and given back to this racing society
> : before they are read their final sermon on their way to mortality!!
>
> The only thing that needs to be a measured is the
> length of the shroud at the time of burial.
shetaa ki aapni mesure korben Snehasis babu? ta'le borong aapnar aykta
notun chaakri hote paare! aami likhechhilaam je lokera ekhaane hoyto
ta'der jiboddoshaay shomaajer denaa-paownaa gulo'r hisheb-nikesh chukiye
nite chaay! aar aapni puro mritodehe'r poridhaan niye taana-hNyachDa
aaromvo kore dilen Snehasis babu? :) shottyi, aapnaara maairi paaren-o!
aykdom chepe-jaan borong!----soumitri
Sharmila Mukherjee
Soumitri Mukherjee wrote:
>
> Snehasis Ganguly wrote:
[...]
> -----"survival of the fittest" ukti-ta sharmila debi aage tulechhen,
> onaake jiggyesh korun onaar otaa bolaa appropriate hoyechhe kina!:)
>
> > Ami tai kortam, eksomoi Archimedes o korechilen
>
> aabar Archimedes-ke daakchhen kyano aei baajare? nijeke onaar shaathe
> tulona koren naaki?:)---ta'le aapni to bikkhyato lok moshaai! aar
> sharmila debi aapnar bondhu, a to aamar mosto boDo shoubhaggyo, pronaam
> nin aapnara aamar, pronaam nin!
> >
> > : out' policies, and on top if they had experienced the much calmer
> > : blissful life elsewhere, then there shouldn't be any discontent, isn't
> > : it sharmila debi?
> >
> > haiN, eto jhamela janle ki aar suitcase pack kore aasha
> > hoto naaki, moidane giye chola bhaja khetum|
> >
> taa jaa bolechhen, oi gormenter chaakri kore moydaane chholabhaaja
> khaowar ofuronto shomoy peten!:)---sharmila debi ebaar aar Archimedes-er
> hoye shudhui likhben naaki? shongye dutaakar chholabhaajao kine deben!:)
Aapni ojotha uttejito hoye poDchhen Soumitribabu, shorirer pokkhe eta
kintu khub khotikor. Tar cheye borong thanda mathai Indrani-r survey-r
questionaire-tar uttorgulo likhe felun aei fNake.
Sharmila
[...]
National Pension Admin.Corp.
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aapnar mone holo aami uttejito hoye poDlaam, sharmila debi?
taa besh, mene nilaam aapnar oi chup koraa'r daabi!
Indrani debi jodi phone kore question gulo koren aamake,
jaaniye debo uttor gulo naahoi, tokhon onaake!
aamar posting gulo poDe jodi kaarur mone laage dukkho:
dhik, lojjito aami, baa nitaantoi murkho!
thaamilaam aami ebaar, likhibo naa aar aei shutoi,
uttejona thaamuk, aashuk shaanti fire, jokhon mor lekhaa furoi!!
----soumitri
Apratim Sarkar
: > Tobe o'i ekti example dekhei generalize kore fellen? Apnara jNara
: > hNeshe thaken, tader'ta na dekhe?
: Aare dur moshai, generalize ke korechhe? Kotha hochchhilo Snehasis-er
: aar tar moto aaro oneker-i stress niye....
Shudhu Snehasis'r moto lok'r example nile USA'te eto stress je
tar chape deshe'ta shomudre toliye jai ni kyano she bhebei
ashchorjo hote hoy. Kintu kotha hochchhilo ta niye noy, kotha
hochchhilo in general USA'te beshi stress na desh'e beshi, tai
niye.
: > PS: Bolte nei, tobe enar chakri thakle hoy.
: Oi-ee, ghure-fire shei `stress', :-)
UNhNu, skill'r obhab. Ami to prothomei bolechhi distinction'ti.
Mcjob to achhei, ta diye gaRi'o kena jai.
Apratim.
Sharmila Mukherjee
Apratim Sarkar wrote:
>
> Sharmila Mukherjee (s...@vishnu.3dem.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu) wrote:
> : Apratim Sarkar wrote:
>
> : > Tobe o'i ekti example dekhei generalize kore fellen? Apnara jNara
> : > hNeshe thaken, tader'ta na dekhe?
>
> : Aare dur moshai, generalize ke korechhe? Kotha hochchhilo Snehasis-er
> : aar tar moto aaro oneker-i stress niye....
>
> Shudhu Snehasis'r moto lok'r example nile USA'te eto stress je
> tar chape deshe'ta shomudre toliye jai ni kyano she bhebei
> ashchorjo hote hoy. Kintu kotha hochchhilo ta niye noy, kotha
> hochchhilo in general USA'te beshi stress na desh'e beshi, tai
> niye.
Eta kintu below the belt holo, tobe aapni bujhben na. Oi concept-ta
aabar aapnar thik clear nei.
>
> : > PS: Bolte nei, tobe enar chakri thakle hoy.
>
> : Oi-ee, ghure-fire shei `stress', :-)
>
> UNhNu, skill'r obhab. Ami to prothomei bolechhi distinction'ti.
> Mcjob to achhei, ta diye gaRi'o kena jai.
Aapnar bujhi dharona skill thaakle tel naasti? Hai re!
Sharmila
Snehasis Ganguly
: > Tobe o'i ekti example dekhei generalize kore fellen? Apnara jNara
: > hNeshe thaken, tader'ta na dekhe?
: Aare dur moshai, generalize ke korechhe? Kotha hochchhilo Snehasis-er
: aar tar moto aaro oneker-i stress niye....
Shudhu Snehasis'r moto lok'r example nile USA'te eto stress je
tar chape deshe'ta shomudre toliye jai ni kyano she bhebei
ashchorjo hote hoy. Kintu kotha hochchhilo ta niye noy, kotha
Lok kom,jaigya beshi, natural resources beshi|
hochchhilo in general USA'te beshi stress na desh'e beshi, tai
niye.
Ami onek graduate student-der jaani jara
prochondo stressful life lead korche, much
more than India of course.
Aar je kajon chakure lokeder chini tarao definitely
India theke beshi stress-e aache|
: > PS: Bolte nei, tobe enar chakri thakle hoy.
: Oi-ee, ghure-fire shei `stress', :-)
UNhNu, skill'r obhab. Ami to prothomei bolechhi distinction'ti.
Illegitimate conclusion draw korecho| Bhadralok-er
skill-er obhav kothia dekhle|
Mcjob to achhei, ta diye gaRi'o kena jai.
Green card na thakle kora jaina| Aar Gari kineo
to sei stress.
Apratim.
Apratim Sarkar
Sharmila Mukherjee <s...@vishnu.3dem.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu> writes:
> Eta kintu below the belt holo, tobe aapni bujhben na. Oi concept-ta
>aabar aapnar thik clear nei.
Dekhun Sharmila apni ato shakto concept amake bujhte bolben na,
amar khub stress hoy.
> Aapnar bujhi dharona skill thaakle tel naasti? Hai re!
Well said. Ebare cholum amra poite'r thread'ta'te narimukti niye
alochona kori.
Snehasis Ganguly
Daduda likhechen:
Snehasis,
I did not exactly lead to the typical immegrant's line. I've been here
for seven years, represented Finland in UN, and still retain the Indian
passport. The issue is a bit different.
So? How is it different? Didn't you come to Finland
for better oppurtunity and money?
My idea is, there will be stress everywhere; it is like carcinogenics,
everything, even the semen is one. You can't simply avoid it. It depends
both on the environment, and the person. My computer is open virtually
24 hours, I feel its better than my paid holidays in India. And believe
On the other hand I have found that I have got addicted
to E-mail, newsgroups etc. We call India every week. All
these things were not there when I was in India, yet I
was much happier. Technology has only made us more dependent
on it along with ill effects.
me, I stuck to India till the time I felt, I'm getting too rusted and
old to do anything. That was another stress!
I know someone who published 400 papers in India. Many
others have shown promise in business, entrepreneurship,
stock markets whatever...
I felt, if I am abroad, I'll see as much as possible, and do whatever
possible. I do it. I chase my money out in beer and - what not; no
I had similar ideas 4 year back... no more.
regrets. Some day, I won't feel good here, I'll change some where, if
everything is closed, back to India.
It is upto you...
By the way, you know why Indians relate more to high stress related
deseases? Their sedentary life style. There are about 11 M Indians
living abroad; Have you seen a single sports man of Indian origin?
You'll scratch your head; none. 90% of SCB-ites like to sit and chat, if
nothing else, in SCB.
You probably don't know about these immigrants. Most of
them have an active physical live. Apratim and Soumitri for
example do exercise regularly..
I've a free advice. Its a nice day. Go out and practice jogging for at
ha!ha! I have snow from Nov1st to May'15th. It is actually
a terrible day here. We are having a snowstrom,ice, sleet
everything. We can't dream of outdoors even.
least 45 minutes. You'll feel much better within two weeks. Also, it is
I go for swimming about 45 minutes 3/4 times a week. Can't
spend more time than that. It takes time to go to the gym,
change dress, shower etc. etc.
said, good sex is extremely helpful in getting rid of stress and related
problems. This is for information only (I don't comment further).
What about the stress of fearing about "Aids"?
What if someone's wife/husband/boyfriend/girlfriend refuse?
What is your opinion on masturbation, Dada?
What about Poita and gaitra mantra?
You know how the surname Chakraborty came? It came from "Charbak borti"-
followers of Charbak- jaboT jiibeT- sukhong jiibeT....
Apnake janina, tobe Guru "Commando" aar "Disco Dancer"
-e heavy diyechilo|
Dadu
Snehasis Ganguly wrote:
>
> Daduda likhechen:
>
> Snehasis,
>
> I did not exactly lead to the typical immegrant's line. I've been here
> for seven years, represented Finland in UN, and still retain the Indian
> passport. The issue is a bit different.
>
> So? How is it different? Didn't you come to Finland
> for better oppurtunity and money?
No. I got bored, and wanted to go some where- to escape from being
another stereotype. I could've gone to the 'Eldorado' much earlier of my
life...
>
> My idea is, there will be stress everywhere; it is like carcinogenics,
> everything, even the semen is one. You can't simply avoid it. It depends
> both on the environment, and the person. My computer is open virtually
> 24 hours, I feel its better than my paid holidays in India. And believe
>
> On the other hand I have found that I have got addicted
> to E-mail, newsgroups etc. We call India every week.
probably you feel more of lonely than being stressed. I do call home
atleast 3 times a week; and its much more costly from here (about
4$/min).
.....All
> these things were not there when I was in India, yet I
> was much happier. Technology has only made us more dependent
> on it along with ill effects.
We can't go back from technology- 'dao fire se ornyo- lo-o e nagar'
sounds nice, but not practicable any more (other than blasting all the
nukes in the World at the same time).
>
> me, I stuck to India till the time I felt, I'm getting too rusted and
> old to do anything. That was another stress!
>
> I know someone who published 400 papers in India. Many
> others have shown promise in business, entrepreneurship,
> stock markets whatever...
You didn't understand. Its not publishing papers. To my understanding,
90% of the 'paper technology' is simply junk. When I for the first time
planned to elope with a girl, I planned to putup a tea business with a
guy; he is haivng a battery business now; and earning more money per
month in the subburb, than what I earn in a year. Another my friends at
that time believed, there was no family planning in China- now one of
the most reputed sergeons in Calcutta. Both he and his wife looks like
'chal-kumDo' sitting on mounds of money, and having nice heart
troubles...Another my frined and his wife are doing softwares, and chids
me what I'm doing sitting in the far corner of the World.
I know all these things. The issue is, I may be good for opnly some
thing, or even nothing! But, surely, I have a definite thought about my
own life. Whatever I do, should fit to this narrow idea about my own
life. This is true for everybody I guess.
> I felt, if I am abroad, I'll see as much as possible, and do whatever
> possible. I do it. I chase my money out in beer and - what not; no
>
> I had similar ideas 4 year back... no more.
>
> regrets. Some day, I won't feel good here, I'll change some where, if
> everything is closed, back to India.
>
> It is upto you...
That's exactly I mean! Let's imagine some body who commands his own
life, an anarch of his own rights. I'd be happy even vaguely resemble
him. Everything is upto you- no commitments, no contracts, no
compulsions.....
...Upto you....
>
> By the way, you know why Indians relate more to high stress related
> deseases? Their sedentary life style. There are about 11 M Indians
> living abroad; Have you seen a single sports man of Indian origin?
> You'll scratch your head; none. 90% of SCB-ites like to sit and chat, if
> nothing else, in SCB.
>
> You probably don't know about these immigrants. Most of
> them have an active physical live. Apratim and Soumitri for
> example do exercise regularly..
Sorry to be so personal. And you'll see, things are changed- they won't
relate to high stress deseases, blocked hearts etc.
>
> I've a free advice. Its a nice day. Go out and practice jogging for at
>
> ha!ha! I have snow from Nov1st to May'15th. It is actually
> a terrible day here. We are having a snowstrom,ice, sleet
> everything. We can't dream of outdoors even.
Oho, I forgot to tell you, t'was a completely dull fortnight here;
cloudy, slushy snow and what not! Last Friday was the first day with
some sunshine! I went for biking (though it was still -5 degree cent.)
the whole day. Stopped for couple of beers at a friend's place, and
started sleeping there.
>
> least 45 minutes. You'll feel much better within two weeks. Also, it is
>
> I go for swimming about 45 minutes 3/4 times a week. Can't
> spend more time than that. It takes time to go to the gym,
> change dress, shower etc. etc.
I envy you. I can't swim, but I'd love to. In '94 I was in Florida keys;
I couldn't go for scuba diving; the captain thrown me out of the boat
when he knew I can't swim.
>
> said, good sex is extremely helpful in getting rid of stress and related
> problems. This is for information only (I don't comment further).
>
> What about the stress of fearing about "Aids"?
Hey, that's better than getting a heart attack! At least you have a good
reason ....
Shibram died a bit too early, probably he would've said, if you catch
AIDS, you cure stress ...
> What if someone's wife/husband/boyfriend/girlfriend refuse?
Somebody else will agree. And if you're trying somebody else's wife/girl
friend, I don't know. and if you're trying some body's boy friend, I
don't know either!
> What is your opinion on masturbation, Dada?
Not much opnion except that, who in the living intelligent World hasn't
ever resorted to it? Feel free to feel free.
> What about Poita and gaitra mantra?
And what about Vivekananda, and Ramakrishna and his mission... as far as
i remember, poite (I had poite for 1 day, 'cause my father agreed to
stand a free feast for my friends and our relatives) was an instrument
foir nice 'swo-pristho-konduyon'. Now that, it is probably also the
"naari mukti-r poth.. ", I guess, pristho-londuyon male race ekchetia
odhikaar noy aar...
>
> You know how the surname Chakraborty came? It came from "Charbak borti"-
> followers of Charbak- jaboT jiibeT- sukhong jiibeT....
>
> Apnake janina, tobe Guru "Commando" aar "Disco Dancer"
> -e heavy diyechilo|
I missed them. In fact, I could see only 3 or 4 Indian movies in the
last 8 years. And after Big B retired, i thought its a sin to go to
Bollywood movies.
>
> --
> India-monsoon and marigold, dung and dust, colors and corpses ,
> smoke and ash, snow and endless myth- is a cruel, unrelenting
> place of ineffable sweetness. It is the most difficult and most
> rewarding of places to travel.
>
> -James O'Reilly
I agree to O'Reilly.
Dadu