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Arnab Gupta

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Satyajit Ray'er chhobi niyey alochonai kota kotha jignasha korar chhilo:

>> Pather PNachali'r Sarbajaya doshe-gune manush noi?

Sambitbabu likhechhen:

> dosh-e gun-e manush, kintu dosh-ta til porimaan, gun-tai
> boddo beshi.

Eta ar ektu `detail'e likhun| Thik bojha gyalo na| Dosh konta ar gun
konta sheta boley alochonata korle byaparta ektu porishkar hobe, karon
amar kache Sarbojoya akdom shadharon Bangali ghorer bou'i mone hoi|
Shotyi katha bolte ki indir thakrun'er proti tar achoron karur mone
birupotar jonmo dileo sheta khub ashchorjer mone hoi na|


>>Apnar Kannchonjongha
>>kirokom lagey?

> Bishesh bhalo noy.

Ebhabe chhere deben na| Ota bhishon priyo chhobi, aro ektu likhun|


>> Apnar puro lekhatey `Charulata' baad keno?

> Ota reverse bias. Shobai ato "charulata-charulata" kore,
> othocho, ADR ba Jono Aranya ba PostMaster baad chole jay.
> Charulata-r namollekh korle-i onyogulo abar side-tracked
> hoye jaabe.

Aranyer din ratri bhishon bhalo chhobi| Charulota'r moto `perfect' chhobi
hoito noi, kintu amar nijer kachhe ei chhobita beshi akorshonio lage|
Tobe ei chhobiti, Kanchonjonghar moto, bohu alochito| Marxist shomalochok'ra
onekei ei chhobiduti pochhonder chokhe dakhen na (jemon Amitabha Dasgupta)|
Bodhoi `social content'er obhab (naki khuje pan na? Ke jane!)|

>>Nayak'er Aditi ki arthey mohiyoshi? Cinemay
>>dekhano sharbogunoshampanno purush choritro tar pachhando hoi na ei karoney?

> Na, oboshyo sheta-o akta gujjhyo karon bote! Kintu Aditi jabotiyo
> modhyobitto koutuhol theke mukto, jeti kintu taar parshoborti
> shohojatrini-ti non. Aditi-r kono greed nei. Ekti ottonto
> "ontorong sakkhatkaar" she jatra-sheshe chhNiDe phale, jokhon
> kina taar potrika-r taka-r tanatani jachchhe.

Gujjhyo karon'ta thik mante parlum na| BAngladesh'e nishchoi mohilara
achhen j(n)ara Uttamkumar'ke dekhle ulte jan na| Eta mene nite to khub
oshubidha haoar kotha noi| Ar sherokom mohila jodi Aditi na hoto tahole
puro byaparta kirokom mati hoto bolun? Arindam'er `confession'er tahole
ki hoto? E to Stardust'er sampadika non je kar shonge kobe khunshuti
korechhi shei bollei kaj chole jabe| Gappo'tato bhaba NAYAK'ke niye|
Aditir moto choritro na hole nakaktike `chinte' para jeto ki?


> Kintu Mohanagar (ota niye-i bolchhen to?)-er Arati-r kintu
> karur opor kono obhijog nei; she shoshur-er sheba kore, shashuDi-r
> sheba kore, shaami-r proti kortobye taar bhul hoy na...abar
> adorsher jonne ak kotha-y moha-mulyobaan chakri-ta chheDe
> dite paare. Arati aposh kore na? Apni kotojon amon bangali
> modhyobitto aatpoure naari dekhechhen Srabanidebi?

Eta akdom thik kotha| Aapni er ager chithite likhechhilen Satyajit'er
nayikara mohiyoshi hon (onek khetre)| Eta bodhoi thik| Tar karon
khanikta bodhoi onar ma'er probhab ebong poroborti kaale stri'er|
Sheshjoner goina'o ba(n)dha porechhilo Pather P(n)achalir jonyey-
er poreo nari mohiyoshi na hoye jai kothai!! Uni meyeder upor akhono
bhorsha rakhen-erokom kothao bodhoi shesh jibone deoa kono shakhyatkare
porechhi|

Thanks

Arnab

Sambit Basu

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GUP...@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Arnab Gupta) writes:


>Satyajit Ray'er chhobi niyey alochonai kota kotha jignasha korar chhilo:

Shob proshnogulo-i ki amake? :)

>>> Pather PNachali'r Sarbajaya doshe-gune manush noi?

>> dosh-e gun-e manush, kintu dosh-ta til porimaan, gun-tai
>> boddo beshi.

>Eta ar ektu `detail'e likhun| Thik bojha gyalo na| Dosh konta ar gun
>konta sheta boley alochonata korle byaparta ektu porishkar hobe, karon
>amar kache Sarbojoya akdom shadharon Bangali ghorer bou'i mone hoi|
>Shotyi katha bolte ki indir thakrun'er proti tar achoron karur mone
>birupotar jonmo dileo sheta khub ashchorjer mone hoi na|

Er uttor ami Srabanidebi-r onyo ekti post-er jobab-e diyechhi,
maane Sarbajoya-r opor theke "mohiyoshi"-r mukut khule
niyechhi. ta shotte-o Sarbajoya-r urban sophistication-ta
amar thik nishchindipur-er gorib jojmaan-er bou-er choritre
dekhte shwosti hoy na. Urban sophistication bolte ami bolchhi,
gramyo koutuhol, kNodol, irshakatorota ityadi-r bohi:prokaash
theke mukti. Indir Thakrun-er shonge je achoron, abong arekti
khetre poDshi-r shonge jhogDa chhaDa Sarbojoya ektu beshi
shohure, tobe thik mohiyoshi non. Ota withdraw korechhi.

>>>Apnar Kannchonjongha
>>>kirokom lagey?

>> Bishesh bhalo noy.

>Ebhabe chhere deben na| Ota bhishon priyo chhobi, aro ektu likhun|

Etar akta karon bodhoy Satyajit-er nijer golper ghotona-r
directness. Subrata SenSharma-Anubha Gupta-r dampotyo oshanti
pray, "oto:por tahara shukhe o shochchhondye boshobaash korite
lagilo" dhoroner somadhaan kora hoyechhe bole mone hoy.

Raybahadur choritro-ti single-dimensional. Kamon ektu jano
villainish kore dekhano hoyechhe.

Anil Chatterjee-r choritro-ti ki kore chhobite?

Manisha "mohiyoshi" :), author-backed. She jano dorshokder
ichchhapuron korte-i Bishwanathan-ke kono apato-grajhyo
karon-chhaDa-i protakhyan kore.

TachaaDa parallelly ei je ghotona ghotchhe, shegulo-r modhye
transition-ta khub mosreen laage na amar.

Apnar "bhishon priyo" hobaar karongulo bolben? Hoyto amar
chhobi-ta sommondhe rethinking dorkaar.

>Aranyer din ratri bhishon bhalo chhobi| Charulota'r moto `perfect' chhobi
>hoito noi,

Kano ebong kothay ADR Charulata-r moton perfect noy bole
apnar mone hoy?

>kintu amar nijer kachhe ei chhobita beshi akorshonio lage|

Amar kaachhe-o.

>Tobe ei chhobiti, Kanchonjonghar moto, bohu alochito| Marxist shomalochok'ra
>onekei ei chhobiduti pochhonder chokhe dakhen na (jemon Amitabha Dasgupta)|
>Bodhoi `social content'er obhab (naki khuje pan na? Ke jane!)|

Amar ogNyota maap korben, apni ki Amitabha Chattopadhyay-er
kotha bolchhen?

>>>Nayak'er Aditi ki arthey mohiyoshi? Cinemay
>>>dekhano sharbogunoshampanno purush choritro tar pachhando hoi na ei karoney?

>> Na, oboshyo sheta-o akta gujjhyo karon bote! Kintu Aditi jabotiyo
>> modhyobitto koutuhol theke mukto, jeti kintu taar parshoborti
>> shohojatrini-ti non. Aditi-r kono greed nei. Ekti ottonto
>> "ontorong sakkhatkaar" she jatra-sheshe chhNiDe phale, jokhon
>> kina taar potrika-r taka-r tanatani jachchhe.

>Gujjhyo karon'ta thik mante parlum na|

Arnabbabu ami khomapraarthi. osthaane-kusthaane bod-roshikota-r
cheshta amar akta mudradosh, ebong apnar ei lekha poDe bujhlum
je "amar nijer mudradosh-e ami aka hotechhi alada". Kaaje-i
khomaprartona.

>BAngladesh'e nishchoi mohilara
>achhen j(n)ara Uttamkumar'ke dekhle ulte jan na| Eta mene nite to khub
>oshubidha haoar kotha noi| Ar sherokom mohila jodi Aditi na hoto tahole
>puro byaparta kirokom mati hoto bolun? Arindam'er `confession'er tahole
>ki hoto? E to Stardust'er sampadika non je kar shonge kobe khunshuti
>korechhi shei bollei kaj chole jabe| Gappo'tato bhaba NAYAK'ke niye|
>Aditir moto choritro na hole nakaktike `chinte' para jeto ki?

Hok kotha.

>apni er ager chithite likhechhilen Satyajit'er
>nayikara mohiyoshi hon (onek khetre)| Eta bodhoi thik| Tar karon
>khanikta bodhoi onar ma'er probhab ebong poroborti kaale stri'er|
>Sheshjoner goina'o ba(n)dha porechhilo Pather P(n)achalir jonyey-
>er poreo nari mohiyoshi na hoye jai kothai!!

Hoyto thik-i bolchhen, kintu ami karon onusondhan
korchhilum na. dNaDan moshai, mohiyoshi bolte-i churdik
theke phNosh-phNash ja chhobol-er awaj ashchhe! Ota aage
established hok, taarpor to kaaron.

>Uni meyeder upor akhono
>bhorsha rakhen-erokom kothao bodhoi shesh jibone deoa kono shakhyatkare
>porechhi|

hNya ami-o poDechhe. <deerghoshwash>

>Arnab

Regards,
Sambit


Arnab Gupta

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Sambit babu likhechhen:

> Shob proshnogulo-i ki amake? :)

Apatato tai, onyo motamot'ta SCB'te shonar jonyey opekhha korte hoi na|

>>>> Pather PNachali'r Sarbajaya doshe-gune manush noi?

>>> dosh-e gun-e manush, kintu dosh-ta til porimaan, gun-tai
>>> boddo beshi.

>>Eta ar ektu `detail'e likhun| Thik bojha gyalo na| Dosh konta ar gun
>>konta sheta boley alochonata korle byaparta ektu porishkar hobe, karon
>>amar kache Sarbojoya akdom shadharon Bangali ghorer bou'i mone hoi|
>>Shotyi katha bolte ki indir thakrun'er proti tar achoron karur mone
>>birupotar jonmo dileo sheta khub ashchorjer mone hoi na|

> Er uttor ami Srabanidebi-r onyo ekti post-er jobab-e diyechhi,
> maane Sarbajoya-r opor theke "mohiyoshi"-r mukut khule
> niyechhi. ta shotte-o Sarbajoya-r urban sophistication-ta
> amar thik nishchindipur-er gorib jojmaan-er bou-er choritre
> dekhte shwosti hoy na. Urban sophistication bolte ami bolchhi,
> gramyo koutuhol, kNodol, irshakatorota ityadi-r bohi:prokaash
> theke mukti. Indir Thakrun-er shonge je achoron, abong arekti
> khetre poDshi-r shonge jhogDa chhaDa Sarbojoya ektu beshi
> shohure, tobe thik mohiyoshi non. Ota withdraw korechhi.


Dekhun gramyo koutuhol'e gramyo shobdo'ta thakle gram'er bojhai thiki
(byakarongoto bhabe)| Kintu sheituku bad dile jeta thake, orthat
koutuhol (shob orthe noi), kNodol ar irshakatorota ami shohore prochur
dekhechhi| Atoi dekhechhi je ektu donamona hoye boleo phelte pari je
gram'e geley er theke khub beshi kichu dekhbona|

Tobe aapnaar kothai akta purono kotha amar mone pore gYalo| Kono
ak shomoy Pather PaNchali dekhe mone hoyechhilo Karuna Bandopadhyay'er
obhinoye ektu `sophistication' achhe| Aapnaar ki mone hoi janaben|


>>>>Apnar Kannchonjongha
>>>>kirokom lagey?

>>> Bishesh bhalo noy.

>>Ebhabe chhere deben na| Ota bhishon priyo chhobi, aro ektu likhun|


> Etar akta karon bodhoy Satyajit-er nijer golper ghotona-r
> directness. Subrata SenSharma-Anubha Gupta-r dampotyo oshanti
> pray, "oto:por tahara shukhe o shochchhondye boshobaash korite
> lagilo" dhoroner somadhaan kora hoyechhe bole mone hoy.


> Raybahadur choritro-ti single-dimensional. Kamon ektu jano
> villainish kore dekhano hoyechhe.

> Anil Chatterjee-r choritro-ti ki kore chhobite?

> Manisha "mohiyoshi" :), author-backed. She jano dorshokder
> ichchhapuron korte-i Bishwanathan-ke kono apato-grajhyo
> karon-chhaDa-i protakhyan kore.

Kanchonjongha keno bhalo laage shei kotha bodhoi thik guchhie bolte
parbo na| Oi khomotata hoito nei| Tobe aapnaar `point'gulor uttor
deoar cheshta korte pari|

Amaar mote, chhobi toiri korar shomoi akjon porichalok tNar chintabhabnake
akta jotoshombhob shonghotito, shamogrik rup dite chan| Ei kajta besh
shokto| Shamne akta golpo thakle (mane shahityo jodi utsho hoi) kaajta
ektu hoito shohoj hoi, tobe khub beshi hoi na (ghotonakrom'er akta
ruporekha paoa jai matro)| Bibhinno `subplot' guloke akotro korata
besh shokto byapar| Ebong thik ekhanei porichaloker munshianar poriksha
hoi| Ei kaajta korte giye subplot'er `golpo'r ongsho jotota shombhob kom bole
mul bhabta ber kore anatai kamyo|

Kanchonjongha chhobiti'r modhyey koyekta byapar achhe ja onyanyo chhobi
theke ektu onyorokom| Ei chhobite golpo nei, tai shei orthe kokhonoi
kichhu `ghote' na| Bhebe dekhun ei chhobi theke jodi keu golpo lekhar
cheshta korto tahole kirokom hoto! Besh shokto kaajta| Tulonai kintu
`Nayak' niye golpo lekha onek shohoj| Ekhanei Kanchonjonghar shatontro,
ei karonei ta Satyajit'er onyanyo chhobir tulonai `cinematically
pure'|

Kanchonjongha daDie achhe ekti dupur gorie bikel hoye shondhar mukhomukhi
pouchhano shomoi porjonto| Eituku shomoier (koyek ghonta matro) modhyey
amra ekti poribare'er lokjoneder somantoral kichu ghotonar (ja muloto
kothabarta ba akar ingit'er modhyei shimaboddho) madhyome dekhte pachhi|
Ebong thik eituku shomoyei onekgulo gurutwopurno byapar ghote jai (`ghotona'
noi!)| Akhon proshno hote pare shomoita eto chhoto kano| Sheta porichaloker
byapar, tobe akta kotha hoito andaj kortey pari| Chhobitite surjer aloi
ranga Kanchonjongha na dekhte paoar akta byapar achhe| Lokshyoniyo
je ei niye kothbartao hoi (jemon aajke megh ki kete jabe? ityadi)| Chhobir
sheshe Kanchonjongha dekha dyai poripurnobhabe| Ei byapartar shonge baki
`ghotona'guloke kono ak odrishwo shutre SR juDe dite cheyechhen mone hoi|
Akhon je ghotonagulor kotha bola hoyechhe sheguloteo kothai jano akta
ondhokar katie berie ashar byapar thheke jai| Jemon Monishar tar babar
probhab katie berie asha, Monisha'r ma shiddhanto nyan meyer biyer byapare
tini kotha bolben tNar Raibahadur shami'r shonge (jeta hoito tNar biruddhe
jaoa)| Ei alotey jodi tar didi-jamaibabu'r ghotonata dekhi tahole bujhte
pari je ekhaneo aki byapar ghotchhe| Santan'er mukh cheye tara aposh
kore nichhe| Tatey khub akta apotti thakar kotha noi| Akhon apni bolchhen
sheta pray `happily forever' bhabe hoyechhe| Tai ki? Akbaro kintu bola
nei je tara poroshporer proti premer karone aposh korchhe, puro byapartai
je tader meye'r jonyey-ei byapartai kintu bola hoyechhe mone hoi|
Raibahadur'er choritro single-dimensional, mene nichhi, kintu villainish
ki? Ei chhobite Raibahadur'er choritro jototuku dyakhano dorkar chhilo,
tate oboshyoi tini single dimensional, kintu onyo dimension anle cinema'r
ki kono uttoron hoto? Anil Chatterjee'r choritroti kano achhe bhebe dekhini
(mane amar khub gurutwopurno lageni, abar chhobite ta onorthok ashe tao
mone hoini)| Bodhoi shotyii byaparta bhebe dekha dorkar| Monishar byaparta
ami agei bolechhi| E chharao aro onek karon thakte pare| Security chaitei
hobe amon to kotha nei (tahole choritro'ta unidimensional hoto na?)| Amonki
biye korte ichhye korchena (takhonkar jonyey) tao hotey pare| Hoito
Uttamkumar'er jonyey opekhya korchhilen|:)


> TachaaDa parallelly ei je ghotona ghotchhe, shegulo-r modhye
> transition-ta khub mosreen laage na amar.

Ei apottita shomporke ekhane thik torko kora jai na| Byaparta chhobir
`rhythm'er shonge jukto| SCB'te kashtho banglai boroi shokto ei alochona|

>>Aranyer din ratri bhishon bhalo chhobi| Charulota'r moto `perfect' chhobi
>>hoito noi,

> Kano ebong kothay ADR Charulata-r moton perfect noy bole
> apnar mone hoy?

Kono boro alochonai jete chai na| Tobe byaparta holo cinema'r grammar
onujayi kichhu kichhu byapar pray `classical' hoye gyachhe| Ami bolchhi
na er baire jaoa jai na (tahole khubi kharap byapar hoto)| Tobe Charulata
shei orthe `grammatically correct'| Aapni khub kom jaiga dekhei chhobitir
karigori byapar'er shomalochona korte parben| Kintu ADR ta noi bolei
mone hoi|

> Amar ogNyota maap korben, apni ki Amitabha Chattopadhyay-er
> kotha bolchhen?

Bodhoi bhulta amari| Enar `Cholochitro Shamaj o SR' ebong `Twelve Indian
Directors'(angshobishesh) porar shutrei kothagulo bolechhilam|

Regards,
Arnab

p.s: Ektu beshii bodhoi bokbok kore phellam|


Chaitali Basu

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Arnabbabu likhechen :

>amar kache Sarbojoya akdom shadharon Bangali ghorer bou'i mone hoi|
>Shotyi katha bolte ki indir thakrun'er proti tar achoron karur mone
>birupotar jonmo dileo sheta khub ashchorjer mone hoi na|

Aar Durga o Apu-r modhye je bibhed korten shetao ki shadharon gramyo
somaj-er mohila-r kachhe expected noye? TachaDa Kashi-te Sharbojoya-r je
bhumika sheo to shadharon bangali ghorer bou-eri bhumika tai na?

> Aranyer din ratri bhishon bhalo chhobi| Charulota'r moto `perfect' >chhobi hoito noi, kintu amar nijer kachhe ei chhobita beshi akorshonio >lage|

Aranyer din ratri choobi-tate naari choritrer jerokom variation achhe
purush choritre sheta temon neyi bole mone hoye. Maane Sharmila, Kaberi,
Aparna o Simi, protyekta choritro jeno shilpir tuli diye aNaka hoechhe.
She tulonaye purush choritrogulo-te ki shudhui ei naari choritrogulo-ke
express out korar jonno byabohar kora hoechhe bole mone hoye na?

>BAngladesh'e nishchoi mohilara
>achhen j(n)ara Uttamkumar'ke dekhle ulte jan na| Eta mene nite to khub
>oshubidha haoar kotha noi| Ar sherokom mohila jodi Aditi na hoto tahole

>puro byaparta kirokom mati hoki hoto?to bolun? Arindam'er >`confession'er tahole ki hoto?

E khetre abar Nayak-er ashol ruup dekhate Sharmila-ke byabohar kora
hoechhe. Tobe Sharmila-r chorito-tao besh driDo bhabe dNar koriye deowa
hoechhe tate shondeho neyi.

>Eta akdom thik kotha| Aapni er ager chithite likhechhilen Satyajit'er


>nayikara mohiyoshi hon (onek khetre)|

Dekhun ekhane abar prosno korlum "mohiyoshi" shobder maane ki? Aar
Satyajit keno bangla shahiytyei ki meyeder onek khetre ektu beshi
unselfish bhabe dekhano hoye na? Satyajit-er galpo gulo to bangla
sahityo thekei neowa, T

>Thanks

>Arnab

Thanks.
Chaitali

Chaitali Basu

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Sambit Basu

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Arnabbabu bolchhen:

>Sambit babu likhechhen:

>> Urban sophistication bolte ami bolchhi,
>> gramyo koutuhol, kNodol, irshakatorota ityadi-r bohi:prokaash
>> theke mukti.

>Dekhun gramyo koutuhol'e gramyo shobdo'ta thakle gram'er bojhai thiki


>(byakarongoto bhabe)| Kintu sheituku bad dile jeta thake, orthat
>koutuhol (shob orthe noi), kNodol ar irshakatorota ami shohore prochur
>dekhechhi| Atoi dekhechhi je ektu donamona hoye boleo phelte pari je
>gram'e geley er theke khub beshi kichu dekhbona|

Akmot apnar shonge, kintu ami jeta-r dike onguli-shonket
korte chaichhiluum sheta holo egulor 'bohi:prokash'; graam-er
mohila-r koutuhol jebhabe manifested hoy akjon shohure mohila-r
ki thik sheibhabe hoy? Amar dharona, hoy na.

>Tobe aapnaar kothai akta purono kotha amar mone pore gYalo| Kono
>ak shomoy Pather PaNchali dekhe mone hoyechhilo Karuna Bandopadhyay'er
>obhinoye ektu `sophistication' achhe| Aapnaar ki mone hoi janaben|

Na, mone hoy na. Trilogy-ta khub shiggir-i abar dekhar ichchhe
aachhe, bolbo'khon.

>Shamne akta golpo thakle (mane shahityo jodi utsho hoi) kaajta
>ektu hoito shohoj hoi, tobe khub beshi hoi na (ghotonakrom'er akta
>ruporekha paoa jai matro)|

Tai ki? Shobsomoy-e?

>Bibhinno `subplot' guloke akotro korata
>besh shokto byapar| Ebong thik ekhanei porichaloker munshianar poriksha
>hoi| Ei kaajta korte giye subplot'er `golpo'r ongsho jotota shombhob kom bole
>mul bhabta ber kore anatai kamyo|

Maane apni akta grand scale-er montage-er kotha bolchhen,
jekhane subplot-gulo montage-er element. Tai ki?

Sheidik diye dekhle Kanchanjongha amar kaachhe fail kore, karon
puro-tar je unifying shur sheta ektu koshto-kolpito.

>Kanchonjongha chhobiti'r modhyey koyekta byapar achhe ja onyanyo chhobi
>theke ektu onyorokom| Ei chhobite golpo nei,

'golpo nei' bolte apni bodhoy bolchhen 'plot nei' jeta
SR tNaar "bishoy cholochchitre" Charulata proshonge bolechhilen.
Ebong shei orthe Nayak-er-o plot nei, Shakhaproshakha-r-o
plot nei, Agantuk-er-o plot nei.

>tai shei orthe kokhonoi
>kichhu `ghote' na|

'ghote' onek kichhu-i, kintu shei orthe kono classical
climax nei.

>Tulonai kintu
>`Nayak' niye golpo lekha onek shohoj|

Tai ki?

>Ekhanei Kanchonjonghar shatontro,
>ei karonei ta Satyajit'er onyanyo chhobir tulonai `cinematically
>pure'|

Tahole to Shakhaproshakha ba Agantuk-keo PP-r theke
'cinematically pure' bolte hoy.

Ei proshonge mone poDlo, Ritwik Ghatak bohudin aage eirokom
akta montobyo korechhilen je, cinema jotodin
sahityo-mukhapekkhi hoye thakbe, toddin she sabalok hobe na.
(RT-o ei rokom-i bolechhilen, aaro bochhor kuDi aage).
etod-sotte-o, Ritwik-er odhikangsho 'bhalo' chhobi-i sahityo
theke neowa.

(Reference-ta haat-er kaachhe nei. Deshe, kaaj-ei chaile-o
dite parbo na. Shaat-er doshok-er kono ekti serious
cinema potrika-y. Jekhane Nayak-er chitro-natyo beriyechhilo)

>Ei alotey jodi tar didi-jamaibabu'r ghotonata dekhi tahole bujhte
>pari je ekhaneo aki byapar ghotchhe| Santan'er mukh cheye tara aposh
>kore nichhe|

Sontaan-er mukh cheye to bote-i, kintu sheta boddo akkhorikbhabe
dekhiyechhen na SR? Swami-stree-r kothopokothon o maajhe maajhe-i
oshwarohi-konya-r mukh o haat-naDa. Eta pray hindi cinema-r
climax-e naiyaka-r sMriti phire ashar moto - egiye asha
lorry-r headlight o naiyaka-r mukher close-up-er kichhu
druto cut. :)

>> TachaaDa parallelly ei je ghotona ghotchhe, shegulo-r modhye
>> transition-ta khub mosreen laage na amar.

>Ei apottita shomporke ekhane thik torko kora jai na| Byaparta chhobir
>`rhythm'er shonge jukto| SCB'te kashtho banglai boroi shokto ei alochona|

Upay ki bolun? Dudh-o-ghol sommondhoiyo bangla probaad-tike
shirodhaarjo kora chhaDa!

>>>Aranyer din ratri bhishon bhalo chhobi| Charulota'r moto `perfect' chhobi
>>>hoito noi,

>> Kano ebong kothay ADR Charulata-r moton perfect noy bole
>> apnar mone hoy?

>Kono boro alochonai jete chai na| Tobe byaparta holo cinema'r grammar
>onujayi kichhu kichhu byapar pray `classical' hoye gyachhe| Ami bolchhi
>na er baire jaoa jai na (tahole khubi kharap byapar hoto)|

Shei hishebe dekhte gele to PP-r bikhyato train-er sequence-ei
editting-er ekti thumb rule mana hoyni (bhagyish)!! O diye kichhu
hoy na. Continuity ba composition ityadi-r kono boDo goDboD
thakle bolun.

>Tobe Charulata
>shei orthe `grammatically correct'| Aapni khub kom jaiga dekhei chhobitir
>karigori byapar'er shomalochona korte parben| Kintu ADR ta noi bolei
>mone hoi|

Kano ebong kothay sheta-i to jante chaichhi. Ami ADR-e chhoto
duti technical truti dekhte pai. Apni ki paan sheta bojhale
bojhar cheshta kori - e byapar-e amar oNgyota otolsporshi
shwikaar kore-o.

>Arnab

>p.s: Ektu beshii bodhoi bokbok kore phellam|

Eta ki amake aaDe khisti korchhen? :)

Regards,
Sambit


-S.BHATTACHARYA

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In article <4fgktq$n...@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
Sambit Basu <sam...@gandalf.rutgers.edu> wrote:

[....]

> niyechhi. ta shotte-o Sarbajoya-r urban sophistication-ta
> amar thik nishchindipur-er gorib jojmaan-er bou-er choritre

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ekti khudro bhrom songshodhon:

Sarbajoya jojmaan-er bou non. Harihar-er 'customer'-ra jojmaan.

> dekhte shwosti hoy na. Urban sophistication bolte ami bolchhi,
> gramyo koutuhol, kNodol, irshakatorota ityadi-r bohi:prokaash
> theke mukti. Indir Thakrun-er shonge je achoron, abong arekti
> khetre poDshi-r shonge jhogDa chhaDa Sarbojoya ektu beshi
> shohure, tobe thik mohiyoshi non. Ota withdraw korechhi.

Oporer para-ti onek bitorker jonmo debe hoyto, aami gramyo dharane
kaan khaRa rakhbo :)

Kintu aar ekta jinish-o mone rakhar moto,
Harihar-Sarbajoya garib, abong grame thakto bote, kintu kaTaa
paribaar-er kortaa-ra original lekhak hoar cheshTay thaken? Ei
pondit, pujari, kathak, lekhak background-i hoyto Sarbajaya'r
'o-gramyo-sulobh' sophistication-er mule. Shahorer kono contribution
nei. Orthat, oi rokom sophistication jonmo gramei hote paare.

Shubhechha -

- samir

> Regards,
> Sambit
>
>
>

Arnab Gupta

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Sambitbabu likhechhen:

> Akmot apnar shonge, kintu ami jeta-r dike onguli-shonket
> korte chaichhiluum sheta holo egulor 'bohi:prokash'; graam-er
> mohila-r koutuhol jebhabe manifested hoy akjon shohure mohila-r
> ki thik sheibhabe hoy? Amar dharona, hoy na.

Besh, aapni ki bojhatey chaichhen bujhtey parlam| Akhon byapar holo
Sarbojayar choritre kintu `gramyota' akebare nei ta noi| Ei niye
Chaitali Basu'r aykta posting porlam mone holo| Erokom to kotha nei je
shob gramyota ki aykjoner upor diyei dekhate hobe? Mane ami boltey
chaichhi je `gramyota' bolte ja ja bojhai tar shobguloi ki akjon'er
modhyey thaka shombhob? Ar jodi thakeo taholei ba chhobi'te shei
shobgulo dekhanor cheshta ki khub banchhoniyo?


>>Shamne akta golpo thakle (mane shahityo jodi utsho hoi) kaajta
>>ektu hoito shohoj hoi, tobe khub beshi hoi na (ghotonakrom'er akta
>>ruporekha paoa jai matro)|

> Tai ki? Shobsomoy-e?

Proshnota thik bujhtey parlamna| Ar ektu bujhiye bolun|

>>Bibhinno `subplot' guloke akotro korata
>>besh shokto byapar| Ebong thik ekhanei porichaloker munshianar poriksha
>>hoi| Ei kaajta korte giye subplot'er `golpo'r ongsho jotota shombhob kom bole
>>mul bhabta ber kore anatai kamyo|

> Maane apni akta grand scale-er montage-er kotha bolchhen,
> jekhane subplot-gulo montage-er element. Tai ki?
> Sheidik diye dekhle Kanchanjongha amar kaachhe fail kore, karon
> puro-tar je unifying shur sheta ektu koshto-kolpito.

Aamaar mone hoi er pore ar kotha na baranoi bhalo| Aapnaar `tai ki?'
proshner uttor bodhoi amar h(n)ya hobe| Tarpore aapni je byaparta
bollen eta niye khub akta alochona chole na| Tar karon aapnaar apotti
jetate sheta amaar bhalo laage| Erporey `kyano bhalo lage?' bolle
torko rubber'er moto bere cholbe (scb'te eta kortey bhalo lage na)|

>>Kanchonjongha chhobiti'r modhyey koyekta byapar achhe ja onyanyo chhobi
>>theke ektu onyorokom| Ei chhobite golpo nei,

> 'golpo nei' bolte apni bodhoy bolchhen 'plot nei' jeta
> SR tNaar "bishoy cholochchitre" Charulata proshonge bolechhilen.
> Ebong shei orthe Nayak-er-o plot nei, Shakhaproshakha-r-o
> plot nei, Agantuk-er-o plot nei.

Shakhaproshakha somporkey kothata mene nilam| Tobey Agantuk'e plot nei
kano? (Eta akta onari chhotogolpo theke neoa na?)| Nayak shommondhe
byapartate torker obokash thake, shikar korchhi| Tobe ami jeta boltey
cheyechhilam sheta holo `Kanchonjongha'r tulonay Nayak'er modhyey
golper element achhey (jodi onyobhabe likhe thaki taholey map korben)|
Ami ekhane golpo boltey akta `well defined' shuchona o samapti'r kotha
bolchhi| Kanchonjongha dekhe onekke bolte shunechhi `ki holo?'| Amon
proshono `Nayak'er shomoi dekhini|


>>tai shei orthe kokhonoi
>>kichhu `ghote' na|

> 'ghote' onek kichhu-i, kintu shei orthe kono classical
> climax nei.

Akdom thik kotha| `Ghote' kothata shei orthei byabohar korechhilam|


>>Tulonai kintu
>>`Nayak' niye golpo lekha onek shohoj|

> Tai ki?

Thik achhey| Amari bhul| Ota `golpo bola' pore neben|

>>Ekhanei Kanchonjonghar shatontro,
>>ei karonei ta Satyajit'er onyanyo chhobir tulonai `cinematically
>>pure'|

> Tahole to Shakhaproshakha ba Agantuk-keo PP-r theke
> 'cinematically pure' bolte hoy.

Shakhaproshakha oboshyoi tai jodio amaar mone hoi ta otikothon doshe bhoge|
Agantuk shommondhe agey bolechhi|


> Ei proshonge mone poDlo, Ritwik Ghatak bohudin aage eirokom
> akta montobyo korechhilen je, cinema jotodin
> sahityo-mukhapekkhi hoye thakbe, toddin she sabalok hobe na.
> (RT-o ei rokom-i bolechhilen, aaro bochhor kuDi aage).
> etod-sotte-o, Ritwik-er odhikangsho 'bhalo' chhobi-i sahityo
> theke neowa.

> (Reference-ta haat-er kaachhe nei. Deshe, kaaj-ei chaile-o
> dite parbo na. Shaat-er doshok-er kono ekti serious
> cinema potrika-y. Jekhane Nayak-er chitro-natyo beriyechhilo)

O kothata Ritwik kyano nanajone nanabhabe bolechhen| RT bodhoi Murari
Bhaduri'ke lekha aykta chithhi'te ei kothata bolechhilen| Ritwik'er
byaparta amar khub `interesting' laage| Ami `Jukti Takko..' dekhini|
Tobe Komol Gandhar chaDa Ritwik'er shob chhobii golpo nirbhor| Odbhut
byapar ei je Ritwik'er priyo chhatroder modhyey onekei `pure cinema'
toiri korar cheshta koren (Mani Kaul, Kumar Sahani)| Ritwik `Rendezvous'
namey je chhoto chhobita Puna'te thhakakalin toiri korechhilen tatey
`pure cinema'r ingit achhey bole mone hoi|

>>Ei alotey jodi tar didi-jamaibabu'r ghotonata dekhi tahole bujhte
>>pari je ekhaneo aki byapar ghotchhe| Santan'er mukh cheye tara aposh
>>kore nichhe|

> Sontaan-er mukh cheye to bote-i, kintu sheta boddo akkhorikbhabe
> dekhiyechhen na SR? Swami-stree-r kothopokothon o maajhe maajhe-i
> oshwarohi-konya-r mukh o haat-naDa. Eta pray hindi cinema-r
> climax-e naiyaka-r sMriti phire ashar moto - egiye asha
> lorry-r headlight o naiyaka-r mukher close-up-er kichhu
> druto cut. :)

Eta niyeo ki ar torko kora chole? Aapnar shukhyota'ta boro beshii
shukhyo moshai, shuch golaro jaiga rakhenni| :)

>>>>Aranyer din ratri bhishon bhalo chhobi| Charulota'r moto `perfect' chhobi
>>>>hoito noi,
>>> Kano ebong kothay ADR Charulata-r moton perfect noy bole
>>> apnar mone hoy?

>>Kono boro alochonai jete chai na| Tobe byaparta holo cinema'r grammar
>>onujayi kichhu kichhu byapar pray `classical' hoye gyachhe| Ami bolchhi
>>na er baire jaoa jai na (tahole khubi kharap byapar hoto)|

> Shei hishebe dekhte gele to PP-r bikhyato train-er sequence-ei
> editting-er ekti thumb rule mana hoyni (bhagyish)!! O diye kichhu
> hoy na. Continuity ba composition ityadi-r kono boDo goDboD
> thakle bolun.

Aapni bolun to Satyajit'er kon chhobi'te boro dhoroner continuity ba
composition'er goDboD achhey| Shesh diker chhobigulo niye torko choltey
pare kintu ta chhara beshir bhag chhobi'r oi dosh'ta bhishon bhabe chokhe
pore na| Aranyer din Ratri shommondhe shei obhijog bodhoi tolai jai na|

>>Tobe Charulata
>>shei orthe `grammatically correct'| Aapni khub kom jaiga dekhei chhobitir
>>karigori byapar'er shomalochona korte parben| Kintu ADR ta noi bolei
>>mone hoi|

> Kano ebong kothay sheta-i to jante chaichhi. Ami ADR-e chhoto
> duti technical truti dekhte pai. Apni ki paan sheta bojhale
> bojhar cheshta kori - e byapar-e amar oNgyota otolsporshi
> shwikaar kore-o.

Abar bodhoi bhashar bhul korlam| `karigori' kothata hoito thik na|
Dekhun ADR ami shesh dekhechhi pray bochhor duek agey| Tai ei jaigata
bhul ar oita thik amaar pokhyey bola shombhob noy| Apnaar je jaigaguloi
technical truti achhey bole mone hoi shegulo janaben| Aami jeta bolte
cheyechhilam ta holo ei je Charulata'r `detail' `structure' ebong
`montage' shomporke khub aykta alochona korar jaiga thake na| Shudhu
cholochitro kyano, onyanyo shilpeo ami atota `perfection' khub kom
dekhechhi| ADR dekhe ta mone hoi na (hoito shei karonei chhobita aro
akorshonio hoi)| Tar gothonriti `classical' noi bolei mone hoi| Ami jekarone
Charulata'ke `perfect' bolechhi shei jinish nei bole ADR kintu `imperfect'
hoye jai na|

>>p.s: Ektu beshii bodhoi bokbok kore phellam|

> Eta ki amake aaDe khisti korchhen? :)

> Regards,
> Sambit

Ta ektu korchhi| Ami Bangali kina tai `mukhe maritong..'e bishyashi|
Erokom gurugombhir alochona `likhtey'shuru korle nijer upor `confidence'
chole jabe je!!!:-)

Regards,
Arnab


Sambit Basu

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s...@hogph.ho.att.com (-S.BHATTACHARYA) writes:

>Sambit Basu <sam...@gandalf.rutgers.edu> wrote:

>[....]

>> niyechhi. ta shotte-o Sarbajoya-r urban sophistication-ta


>> amar thik nishchindipur-er gorib jojmaan-er bou-er choritre

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Ekti khudro bhrom songshodhon:

>Sarbajoya jojmaan-er bou non. Harihar-er 'customer'-ra jojmaan.

Yes. I admit that I didn't know the proper meaning
of "jojmaan". Thanks to Samirbabu. Sayan was also
kind enough to point the same mistake thru' personal
mail. Thank you guys.

>- samir

Aajke SCB khule jarpornai anindito hoyechhi. Ei thread-e
laag laag kore lege gachhe - kaaje-i ami ei alochona theke
biday nichchhi, jodi-o poDbo. Exception: jodi keu
movie-making-er technical alochona korte chaan! Ami Arnabbabu-r
uttor-er protikkhay khon gunchhi.

Ebong karur jodi amar boktobyer jonne khisti korte saadh
jay, tini amake personal mail pathiye khisti korte paaren.

Regards,
Sambit

Chaitali Basu

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On 11 Feb 1996, Arnab Gupta wrote:

> Dekhun gramyo koutuhol'e gramyo shobdo'ta thakle gram'er bojhai thiki
> (byakarongoto bhabe)| Kintu sheituku bad dile jeta thake, orthat
> koutuhol (shob orthe noi), kNodol ar irshakatorota ami shohore prochur
> dekhechhi| Atoi dekhechhi je ektu donamona hoye boleo phelte pari je
> gram'e geley er theke khub beshi kichu dekhbona|

Eta apni thik bolechhen Arnab-babu. Oi 'quality'-gulo bodhhoe gram shahor
bachha-bachhi kore ashe na. Ota byakti nirbhor.

> Tobe aapnaar kothai akta purono kotha amar mone pore gYalo| Kono
> ak shomoy Pather PaNchali dekhe mone hoyechhilo Karuna Bandopadhyay'er
> obhinoye ektu `sophistication' achhe| Aapnaar ki mone hoi janaben|

Kintu agekaar din-er ashikhyito mohilader modhye ki onek somoy
aajkaal-kar shikhyito mohila-der theke beshi 'sophistication'
dekhen ni?

> Kanchonjongha daDie achhe ekti dupur gorie bikel hoye shondhar mukhomukhi
> pouchhano shomoi porjonto| Eituku shomoier (koyek ghonta matro) modhyey
> amra ekti poribare'er lokjoneder somantoral kichu ghotonar (ja muloto
> kothabarta ba akar ingit'er modhyei shimaboddho) madhyome dekhte pachhi|
> Ebong thik eituku shomoyei onekgulo gurutwopurno byapar ghote jai (`ghotona'
> noi!)| Akhon proshno hote pare shomoita eto chhoto kano| Sheta porichaloker


Eta apni khoob bhalo bolechhen. Matro shamnyo somoy ekta bishesh
poribeshe jakhon onekgulo ghatona ghote takhon taar modhye dharabahikota
khNujte chesta korar shotti-I maane neyi.

> ami agei bolechhi| E chharao aro onek karon thakte pare| Security chaitei
> hobe amon to kotha nei (tahole choritro'ta unidimensional hoto na?)| Amonki
> biye korte ichhye korchena (takhonkar jonyey) tao hotey pare| Hoito
> Uttamkumar'er jonyey opekhya korchhilen|:)

Abaar oi pahaDi poribeshe security-take temon proyojoniyo mone hoyeni
hoeto. Kintu shahore fire ashar paro je shei choritrer aki rokom mon
thakbe tai na ke bolte paare?

> Regards,
> Arnab

Chaitali

ABDUL ASHIK

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As-Salaamu-Alaikum...

This is going to short:

Can anybody please tell me where I can purchase and/or hire the film
Apu's Sangsar?

And also, is there anybody out there who can tell me if there is a
Kumar Shanu version of Abdul Jabbar's classic song,

"Balobasha Jodi, Jontrona Hoi, Mon keno Diye Chile....?"

Your correspondence will be much appreciated...

Khuda Hafez...

as...@coventry.ac.uk

Chaitali Basu

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On 13 Feb 1996, Arnab Gupta wrote:

> Sambitbabu likhechhen:
>
> > Akmot apnar shonge, kintu ami jeta-r dike onguli-shonket
> > korte chaichhiluum sheta holo egulor 'bohi:prokash'; graam-er
> > mohila-r koutuhol jebhabe manifested hoy akjon shohure mohila-r
> > ki thik sheibhabe hoy? Amar dharona, hoy na.
>
> Besh, aapni ki bojhatey chaichhen bujhtey parlam| Akhon byapar holo
> Sarbojayar choritre kintu `gramyota' akebare nei ta noi| Ei niye
> Chaitali Basu'r aykta posting porlam mone holo| Erokom to kotha nei je
> shob gramyota ki aykjoner upor diyei dekhate hobe? Mane ami boltey
> chaichhi je `gramyota' bolte ja ja bojhai tar shobguloi ki akjon'er
> modhyey thaka shombhob? Ar jodi thakeo taholei ba chhobi'te shei
> shobgulo dekhanor cheshta ki khub banchhoniyo?

Dekhun ei logic anujayi to akjon gram-er mohila-r theke ekjon mafoshol-er
mohila-r 'bohi:prokash' more sofisticated hobe aar tar theke shahorer
mohila-r 'bohi:prokash' aro sofisticated haowa uchit tai na? Ami ekta
shotti ghatonar kotha bolchhi. Ekti shohure meyer mafoshole biye hoye.
Shekhane taar shashuri taake jiggesh kore "bou-ma tomar baba kato mayine
paan?". Abar oi aki meyetir shoshur kul-er gramyo ek aNtiyo praye
gandograme boshe taake jiggesh kore "Tomar baba to khoob manyi lok, onek
baaro chakri koren. Tomader nishchoi shongshare taka poisa-r tanatani
neyi?" Dutotei aki koutuhol prokash hoechhilo kintu kontate beshi
sophistication-er prokash bolte paren?

> > Sontaan-er mukh cheye to bote-i, kintu sheta boddo akkhorikbhabe
> > dekhiyechhen na SR? Swami-stree-r kothopokothon o maajhe maajhe-i
> > oshwarohi-konya-r mukh o haat-naDa. Eta pray hindi cinema-r
> > climax-e naiyaka-r sMriti phire ashar moto - egiye asha
> > lorry-r headlight o naiyaka-r mukher close-up-er kichhu
> > druto cut. :)
>
> Eta niyeo ki ar torko kora chole? Aapnar shukhyota'ta boro beshii
> shukhyo moshai, shuch golaro jaiga rakhenni| :)

Criticise korte korte kichhu bastob scene-ke kharap bolata shukhyota'r
porichoye bolchhen Arnab babu? Ekta misti lebu-ke beshi kochlate thakle
sheta theke teto rosh beroye. Takhon ki taake teto lebu bolte hobe?

> Ta ektu korchhi| Ami Bangali kina tai `mukhe maritong..'e bishyashi|
> Erokom gurugombhir alochona `likhtey'shuru korle nijer upor `confidence'
> chole jabe je!!!:-)

Tobe apnader cinematography'r alochona theke amra onek kichhu jante
parlum. Premise-ta cinematography-te define kore niye alochona chalan.
Amra bhaag na nite parleo poDe nishchoi anondo paabo.

> > Regards,
> Arnab

Chaitali

Arnab Gupta

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Choitali Basu writes:

>Dekhun ei logic anujayi to akjon gram-er mohila-r theke ekjon mafoshol-er
>mohila-r 'bohi:prokash' more sofisticated hobe aar tar theke shahorer
>mohila-r 'bohi:prokash' aro sofisticated haowa uchit tai na? Ami ekta
>shotti ghatonar kotha bolchhi. Ekti shohure meyer mafoshole biye hoye.
>Shekhane taar shashuri taake jiggesh kore "bou-ma tomar baba kato mayine
>paan?". Abar oi aki meyetir shoshur kul-er gramyo ek aNtiyo praye
>gandograme boshe taake jiggesh kore "Tomar baba to khoob manyi lok, onek
>baaro chakri koren. Tomader nishchoi shongshare taka poisa-r tanatani
>neyi?" Dutotei aki koutuhol prokash hoechhilo kintu kontate beshi
>sophistication-er prokash bolte paren?

Ami bujhtey paarchhi aapni ki bolte chaan| Ebong ekhetre konta
`sofisticated' sheta bujhteo oshubidha hoi na| Kintu eta ki ektu
bichhinno ghotona bole mone hoi na? Gram'er lok kom `sofisticated'
hole tatey ki khato hote hoi? Aapni je ghotona ullekh korechhen
tatey je kono `shikshito' lok akii kaaj korto- gram shohor nirbisheshe|


>> Ta ektu korchhi| Ami Bangali kina tai `mukhe maritong..'e bishyashi|
>> Erokom gurugombhir alochona `likhtey'shuru korle nijer upor `confidence'
>> chole jabe je!!!:-)

>Tobe apnader cinematography'r alochona theke amra onek kichhu jante
>parlum. Premise-ta cinematography-te define kore niye alochona chalan.
>Amra bhaag na nite parleo poDe nishchoi anondo paabo.

Uporer lekhatate ami aykta byakarongoto bhul korechhilam (dhonyobad
Sayanbabu)-ota `mukheno maritong..' hobe| Ja bolte cheyechhilam tatey
kintu kono bhul chhilo na!!!

Snehasis Ganguly

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Chaitali Basu (chaitali@spcm4) wrote:
: On 13 Feb 1996, Arnab Gupta wrote:

: > Sambitbabu likhechhen:


: >
: > > Akmot apnar shonge, kintu ami jeta-r dike onguli-shonket
: > > korte chaichhiluum sheta holo egulor 'bohi:prokash'; graam-er
: > > mohila-r koutuhol jebhabe manifested hoy akjon shohure mohila-r
: > > ki thik sheibhabe hoy? Amar dharona, hoy na.
: >
: > Besh, aapni ki bojhatey chaichhen bujhtey parlam| Akhon byapar holo
: > Sarbojayar choritre kintu `gramyota' akebare nei ta noi| Ei niye
: > Chaitali Basu'r aykta posting porlam mone holo| Erokom to kotha nei je
: > shob gramyota ki aykjoner upor diyei dekhate hobe? Mane ami boltey
: > chaichhi je `gramyota' bolte ja ja bojhai tar shobguloi ki akjon'er
: > modhyey thaka shombhob? Ar jodi thakeo taholei ba chhobi'te shei
: > shobgulo dekhanor cheshta ki khub banchhoniyo?

: Dekhun ei logic anujayi to akjon gram-er mohila-r theke ekjon mafoshol-er

: mohila-r 'bohi:prokash' more sofisticated hobe aar tar theke shahorer
: mohila-r 'bohi:prokash' aro sofisticated haowa uchit tai na? Ami ekta
: shotti ghatonar kotha bolchhi. Ekti shohure meyer mafoshole biye hoye.
: Shekhane taar shashuri taake jiggesh kore "bou-ma tomar baba kato mayine
: paan?". Abar oi aki meyetir shoshur kul-er gramyo ek aNtiyo praye
: gandograme boshe taake jiggesh kore "Tomar baba to khoob manyi lok, onek
: baaro chakri koren. Tomader nishchoi shongshare taka poisa-r tanatani
: neyi?" Dutotei aki koutuhol prokash hoechhilo kintu kontate beshi
: sophistication-er prokash bolte paren?


Sophistication er duto spelling dekhey ektu bhoi peye gelum,
je American ra abaar otakey kobey sofisticated banalo?
Jai hok, sophisticated lokera pechon thekey churi marey,
tar thekey ekjon unsophisticated loker khola talwarer mar
khawa preferable. Tai ke sophisticated ke unsophisticated
setaar alochona britha..


Aar Cinemai Prem niye(article gulo ubey gechey) apnaara baddo
bokbok korchen | Prem trem bole jagotey kichui nei, sob i
manusher nihit saartho.. baki jetaa royechey, deep rooted
insecurity jetaa manush boro holey kromosho face korey|
Ke premer bazar/biyer bazar/chakrir bazar balun, sob holo
ekekata Jungle, apnakey lorey banchtey hobey. Eta struggle
for existence-er thekey kichu alada noi..
Keu jodi boley se prem korchey, nirghyat dekhben, baba maer
bari charar somai je insecurity ta chilo sei security taake khunjche..
Eiykhaney teenager der dating etc. cherei dilum, otakey hormon
driven bole..

Unfortunately human beings dont realise that everyone is alone
in this world. Manush-er setai bojhar dorkar. Setai dhire dhire
ultimate reality dikey niye ja. Madhyoboyoshe eta aro clear hoey|


: > > Sontaan-er mukh cheye to bote-i, kintu sheta boddo akkhorikbhabe


: > > dekhiyechhen na SR? Swami-stree-r kothopokothon o maajhe maajhe-i
: > > oshwarohi-konya-r mukh o haat-naDa. Eta pray hindi cinema-r
: > > climax-e naiyaka-r sMriti phire ashar moto - egiye asha
: > > lorry-r headlight o naiyaka-r mukher close-up-er kichhu
: > > druto cut. :)
: >
: > Eta niyeo ki ar torko kora chole? Aapnar shukhyota'ta boro beshii
: > shukhyo moshai, shuch golaro jaiga rakhenni| :)

: Criticise korte korte kichhu bastob scene-ke kharap bolata shukhyota'r

: porichoye bolchhen Arnab babu? Ekta misti lebu-ke beshi kochlate thakle
: sheta theke teto rosh beroye. Takhon ki taake teto lebu bolte hobe?

: > Ta ektu korchhi| Ami Bangali kina tai `mukhe maritong..'e bishyashi|


: > Erokom gurugombhir alochona `likhtey'shuru korle nijer upor `confidence'
: > chole jabe je!!!:-)

: Tobe apnader cinematography'r alochona theke amra onek kichhu jante


: parlum. Premise-ta cinematography-te define kore niye alochona chalan.
: Amra bhaag na nite parleo poDe nishchoi anondo paabo.

Apnader cinematography discussion eiy kichu bolbaar nei |
Specific movie niye discussion er tempo pelum na, just
Kanchanjhanga ke touch korechilum | taachara onekdin dekhinito
onek scene bhuleo gechi :-)

Regards ,
Snehasis

: > > Regards,
: > Arnab

: Chaitali

-S.BHATTACHARYA

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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960216100343.844B-100000@spcm4>,

Chaitali Basu <chaitali@spcm4> wrote:
>On 13 Feb 1996, Arnab Gupta wrote:
>
>> Sambitbabu likhechhen:
>>
>> > Akmot apnar shonge, kintu ami jeta-r dike onguli-shonket
>> > korte chaichhiluum sheta holo egulor 'bohi:prokash'; graam-er
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>> > mohila-r koutuhol jebhabe manifested hoy akjon shohure mohila-r
^^^^^^^

>> > ki thik sheibhabe hoy? Amar dharona, hoy na.

[....]

>> Sarbojayar choritre kintu `gramyota' akebare nei ta noi| Ei niye

^^^^^^^^
[....]

>Dekhun ei logic anujayi to akjon gram-er mohila-r theke ekjon mafoshol-er

^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^


>mohila-r 'bohi:prokash' more sofisticated hobe aar tar theke shahorer

^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^


>mohila-r 'bohi:prokash' aro sofisticated haowa uchit tai na? Ami ekta

[...]

'gram', 'mufoshshol', 'shahor'; PP-cinema-te Sarbajaya'r
charitra/abhinoy-e apato 'sophistication'-er uthso sandhane oi 'monotonic'
direction-e Nischindipur theke jatra korar kono dorkar nei.
Nischindipurer cultural map-e SR Sarbajaya-ke, IMO, Thik jaygatei
pratishTha korechhen.

Shahor (kolkata?) theke Nischindipur oto dure noy :) je Nischindipurer
samajer structure osposhto hoye jaabe. Sarbajaya-ra grame, garib holeo
'bhadro'pollir basinda, taar opor lekha-poRa, publication :) niye
byasto ek ghar. Ei value system-e garib hoata intrinsically kono saongoskriti
ba moral values er ghat-ti'r ingit dey na. Durga jokhon haar churir daye
accused holo ba Sarbajaya-ke jokhon onner gaachher poRe jaoa narkol chupi
chupi nite holo, tate Sarbajaya'r baybohaar/obhinoy oporer dharonar'i
samarthan kore. koutuhol, kNodol, aar irshaparanayata'r
jotheshto bohi:prakash Srabajaya'r pokkhe o-swabhabik; gramyo o garib howa
shotteo. Onnothay, oi paRa'r lokera bolto bou-ta ki rokom 'chashaRay'
dekho! (Oboshsho, aar ekTa practical oshubidhe aachche -- Harihar-er
gNati-phNati to keu nei kaachha kaacchi, joghRa-togRa gulo hobe kaar shonge
:) Orthat, aamaar mote, SR-er script-er kono ghatti nei e byapaare.

Tobe Sarbajaya-ke, in certain respects, oneker 'o-gramyo' mone hoy keno?
Casting-er jonne? Karuna B'r moddhe ki intrinsically ekta shohure bhaab aachhe?
Dekhte, chalone? Aamaar nijer ta mone hoy na. Balone? Ekhane aamaar
maajhe maajhe mone hoyechhe je Sarbajaya'r katha bolar dharon ba uchcharon;
bishesh kore Harihar-er tulonay, onekTa onno rokom. Sheitei ki
'sophistication'-er uthso? Aapnader ki mone hoy?

Ba, cinema'r bhashay, uthso ti ki script-e, na casting-e, na obhinoy-e?

Shubhechha -

- samir

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