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Jun 13, 2004, 2:41:41 AM6/13/04
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Ref : Indian customs block goods at entry points..
.Wednesday June 09 2004 20:02:05 PM BDT

Ali Hasan, from UK

What is the point of trading with India? It is not a normal trading nation. Its
shoddy goods like poorly made cars and bikes should be thrown in the rubbish
dump. Remember the recent debacle at the Electricity generation station where
poorly made parts from India caused mayham for days?Look East and look West.
Bangladesh has been a friend and trading partner of China, Japan, Korea,
Indonesia, Thailand for hundreds of years. Bangladesh and all Bengalis must be
a bridge to the East. Please stop buying Indian goods.Also, please inform the
world trading community what bad trading partner India is. Until India learns
that big nations like Bangladesh and Pakistan will not tolerate their ways it
will go on undermining our economies. We need good trading partners and if
India learns to act in good faith it must prove it.====================Ali
HasanSouth Kensington, LondonUKReaders' Opinion


nkdatta8839

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Jun 13, 2004, 11:40:24 PM6/13/04
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"kgazi" <kg...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<_K_yc.22774$E03.17606@fed1read01>...
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> What imports from BD !!?
>

http://www.matamat.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=38

Bangladesh has been running significant
trade deficits for quite some time.

Here's a five-year breakup of trade
deficit from 1996-2001:

1996-1997 - $2,734 million
1997-1998 - $2,359 million
1998-1999 - $2,693 million
1999-2000 - $2,063 million
2000-2001 - $2,958 million

Here's a breakup of Bangladesh's trade
deficit with different countries:

India $1,109 million
Singapore $783.39 million
China $650.53 million
Taiwan $398.84 million
Hong Kong $379.61 million
South Korea $367.29 million
Japan $256.23 million
Australia $185.38 million
Indonesia $184.54 million
Malaysia $174.82 million
Thailand $171.98 million

The rise in import payments was faster than
the rise in export earnings, resulting in the
persistence of the trade deficit in Bangladesh.
Faster rise in import payments occurred due to
the liberal import policy pursued by the
government, rise in prices of petroleum products,
rise in food imports from time to time and also
due to increased imports of intermediate goods
and capital goods during the 1980s and 1990s.
-- Syed Ahmed Khan and A. Samad Sarker

Bangladesh hopes that the emergence of exportable
goods like leather and leather goods and frozen foods
in addition to readymade garments, will lead to a
rise in export earnings from manufactured goods and
a consequent narrowing of the trade imbalance.
-- Banglapedia

pund kamath

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Jun 14, 2004, 6:28:01 AM6/14/04
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nkdat...@bigmailbox.net (nkdatta8839) wrote in message news:<c62ede76.04061...@posting.google.com>...

> "kgazi" <kg...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<_K_yc.22774$E03.17606@fed1read01>...
> >
> > What imports from BD !!?
> >
>
> http://www.matamat.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=38
>
> Bangladesh has been running significant trade deficits for quite some time....
..............
How about Bangla Desh taking some steps to cut down its population
size!. After all Allah does prefers to see the otherway when it comes
to question of help!

Mirza Ghalib

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Jun 14, 2004, 11:56:19 AM6/14/04
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Sort of confirms Kissinger's characterization of BD as a
'basketcase.'


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nkdatta8839

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Jun 14, 2004, 5:34:49 PM6/14/04
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pund_...@hotmail.com (pund kamath) wrote in message news:<b9ca4079.04061...@posting.google.com>...

>> "kgazi" <kg...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<_K_yc.22774$E03.17606@fed1read01>...
>>>
>>> What imports from BD !!?
>>>
>>
>> http://www.matamat.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=38
>>
>> Bangladesh has been running significant trade deficits for quite some time....
> ..............
> How about Bangla Desh taking some steps to cut down its population
> size!. After all Allah does prefers to see the otherway when it comes
> to question of help!
>

Well, actually Bangladesh has made significant
progress in population control.

In 1972, Kissinger had called Bangladesh a
basket case. And there are those among (West)
Pakistan's ruling elite who had opined that
the 1971 partition was all for the best because
West Pakistan had already extracted out of
East Pakistan what it could and that from then
on, in a united Pakistan, the east wing was
bound to act as a drag on the west wing.

History has proved them wrong. Last year (2003),
Bangladesh was placed above Pakistan when ranked
by HDI index (UNDP publication):
================================================================================
http://www.undp.org/hdr2003/pdf/presskit/HDR03_PKE_HDI.pdf

Rankings In 2003 UNDP Human Development Report:

Norway 1
United States 7
Maldives 86
Sri Lanka 99
China 104
Bhutan 136
Bangladesh 139
Nepal 143
Pakistan 144
Sierra Leone 175
================================================================================
Bangladesh has set the standard for micro-lending
in developing countries. Today, Bangladesh ranks
ahead of Pakistan in literacy rate, health care,
women empowerment and of course, in population
control.

kgazi

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Jun 14, 2004, 6:16:20 PM6/14/04
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"Mirza Ghalib" <mgha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Sort of confirms Kissinger's characterization of BD as a
> 'basketcase.'
>

No more "basket case" than any other country in the region:

"The reality is very different. Bangladesh has survived and progressed
[[since Kissinger's Nixonian remark]]. In seeking to overcome the challenges
of extreme poverty and its environment, it has achieved breakthroughs that
are being applied in other nations.

** Population Growth: International reports praise the dramatic progress
Bangladesh has made in the past decade: it has doubled the rate of
contraceptive use and has reduced the average family size from seven
children to three. Today, most Bangladeshi women say they want only two or
three children.
** Food Production: Bangladesh has now almost achieved food
self-sufficiency, and has begun to export rice.
** Democracy: In the past decade, and despite continued conflicts and
instability, Bangladesh has established and maintained a multi-party
democracy, from the national level to the local level.
** Private Sector: Bangladesh's rapidly growing private sector is attracting
more and more foreign investment. A garment industry has sprung up in the
past decade, which now provides jobs to more than one million Bangladeshis,
primarily women.
** Health: Oral rehydration therapy-a simple home cure for diarrhea that is
saving the lives of millions of young children-was invented in Bangladesh,
and has been taught to virtually every woman in the country.
** Microcredit: The people of Bangladesh have proved to the world, through
Prof. Muhammad Yunus's pioneering Grameen Bank, that you can invest in the
poor - that poor women have the highest loan repayment rate in the world,
and are some of its most creative entrepreneurs.
Education: Working together, UNICEF and a major Bangladeshi organization,
BRAC, have created a breakthrough in lowering the cost and improving the
quality of education through a village-based approach.
http://www.thp.org/sac/unit1/boverview.htm


Neil Kashmiri - Hindu Sikh

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Jun 16, 2004, 5:56:40 AM6/16/04
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In actual fact Bangladesh is doing very well as a 3rd world nation, may have
less resources then India but uses them to get the maximum benefit. It's
also a fact that the Grameen Bank project to help the women is a great
success. India would do well to take note.

Some of their project have been very innovative in helping themselves.

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Habshi

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Jun 16, 2004, 7:52:34 PM6/16/04
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BD has the most aid in the world per capita after the
Palestinians . If it is still a basket case then blame it on Islam.

kgazi

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"Habshi" <hab...@anony.com> wrote in message
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> BD has the most aid in the world per capita after the
> Palestinians . If it is still a basket case then blame it on Islam.


That is a myth. BD nowhere near most aid per capita.
In Asia alone, BD ($11) takes less per capita AID than SriLanka ($29) and
Nepal ($16).

ASIA: Economy: Economic aid - recipient (per capita)
Country Description Amount

1.Mongolia$76.94 per person
2.Kazakhstan$36.38 per person
3.Sri Lanka$29.22 per person
4.Azerbaijan$17.87 per person
5.Nepal$16.01 per person
6.Pakistan$15.92 per person
7.Bangladesh$11.37 per person
8.Kyrgyzstan$10.21 per person
9.Tajikistan$8.84 per person
10.Turkmenistan$3.35 per person
11.India$2.76 per person
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_rec_cap/ASI


habshi

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Jun 17, 2004, 11:53:18 AM6/17/04
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Why if it is doing so well , does BD need FIVE times as much aid per person as India ?

Why , why , why ?

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:40:50 -0700, "kgazi" <kg...@cox.net> wrote:


"Habshi" <hab...@anony.com> wrote in message
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> BD has the most aid in the world per capita after the
> Palestinians . If it is still a basket case then blame it on Islam.


That is a myth. BD nowhere near most aid per capita.
In Asia alone, BD ($11) takes less per capita AID than SriLanka ($29) and
Nepal ($16).

ASIA: Economy: Economic aid - recipient (per capita)
Country Description Amount

6.Pakistan$15.92 per person
7.Bangladesh$11.37 per person

11.India$2.76 per person
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_rec_cap/ASI

nkdatta8839

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Jun 17, 2004, 3:22:07 PM6/17/04
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"kgazi" <kg...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<T1bAc.75442$My6.57505@fed1read05>...

> > BD has the most aid in the world per capita after the
> > Palestinians . If it is still a basket case then blame it on Islam.
>
>
> That is a myth. BD nowhere near most aid per capita.
> In Asia alone, BD ($11) takes less per capita AID than SriLanka ($29) and
> Nepal ($16).
>

I visited the site nationmaster.com and found it
quite interesting.

Ranked at number 6, Pakistan is indeed ahead of
Bangladesh in per capita aid. In fact, Pakistan
receives 40% more in per capita aid than Bangladesh
which ranks number 7.

However, in aid as a percentage of GDP, Pakistan is
listed as receiving less (1.1%) than Bangladesh (2.5%).

nkdatta8839

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Jun 17, 2004, 4:08:10 PM6/17/04
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"kgazi" <kg...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<T1bAc.75442$My6.57505@fed1read05>...

> > BD has the most aid in the world per capita after the
> > Palestinians . If it is still a basket case then blame it on Islam.
>
>
> That is a myth. BD nowhere near most aid per capita.
> In Asia alone, BD ($11) takes less per capita AID than SriLanka ($29) and
> Nepal ($16).
>

I visited the site www.nationmaster.com (See
Mr. Gazi's post) and found it quite interesting.

But I wonder if "aid" in these tables might be
too all-encompassing a term to yield too much in
meaningful inferences.

Aid can be outright grants. It can be subsidized
low interest loans. And it can even be regular
commercial loans. The tables don't specify the
type of "aid".

A high figure for outright grants (Palestinians
receive a lot of this type, I suspect), can be
grounds for pessimism in as much as it demonstrates
lack of faith of the donors in the capability of
the receiving people to repay.

A high figure for aid thru regular commercial
loans might actually be a sign of the nation's
economic viability and vitality alike for it
demonstrates faith in the credit worthiness of
the receiving nation.

The Central Asian Republics, rich in natural
resources, seem to rank quite high in the table
for per capita aid. But this might be more a
reflection of the credit worthiness of the
Central Asian Republics.

Pakistan's "credit worthiness" received a
fillip, first, when President Reagan chose it
as a frontline ally in the war against communism
and then when President Bush Jr. chose it as a
frontline ally in war against Taleban and
Al Qaeda. Pakistan's high per capita aid might be
an indicator that Presidents Reagan and Bush Jr
deemed Pakistan a suitable recipient of aid to
yield appropriate returns to USA in terms of its
strategic goals.

At the level of individual citizens, the person
who receives the bigger "aid" from a bank for
his house mortgage is not to be pitied but
envied. But the person who receives more aid thru,
say, SSI and Medicaid (grants for the needy), is
to be pitied rather than envied.

Ranked at number 6, Pakistan is indeed ahead of
Bangladesh in per capita aid. In fact, Pakistan

receives 40% more in per capita aid ($15.92) than
Bangladesh ($11.37) which ranks number 7.

However, in terms of aid as a percentage of GDP,

Pakistan is listed as receiving less (1.1%) than
Bangladesh (2.5%).

But above figures, by themselves, may not be enough
to tell us if Bangladesh is ahead of Pakistan in
anyway or vice versa.

surreal_ravi

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Jun 17, 2004, 11:00:52 PM6/17/04
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> "Habshi" <hab...@anony.com> wrote in message
> news:40d0dd1c...@news.clara.net...

> > BD has the most aid in the world per capita after the
> > Palestinians . If it is still a basket case then blame it on Islam.
>
>
> That is a myth. BD nowhere near most aid per capita.
> In Asia alone, BD ($11) takes less per capita AID than SriLanka ($29) and
> Nepal ($16).

More aid doesn't mean worse economic conditions. For instance,
Israel is economically better than many countries which
recieve less aid than Israel. Some of the factors which
help a country get aid are:

a) the international clout
b) the trust of the donor country in the institutions
of the recipient country.
c) long-term economic/political stability/viability
of the recipient country.

surreal_ravi

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> "Habshi" <hab...@anony.com> wrote in message
> news:40d0dd1c...@news.clara.net...

> > BD has the most aid in the world per capita after the
> > Palestinians . If it is still a basket case then blame it on Islam.
>
>
> That is a myth. BD nowhere near most aid per capita.
> In Asia alone, BD ($11) takes less per capita AID than SriLanka ($29) and
> Nepal ($16).

An intelligent person doesn't accept the statistics
blindly. He/she questions the data/statistics
carefully before interpretation and arriving at
conclusions.

The total number of extremely poor people in
India (those making less than a dollar a day) is more
than the combined populations of Pakistan and
Bangladesh. Despite such horrendous poverty levels,
why India recieve less aid than SriLanka, Pakistan
and Bangladesh?

nkdatta8839

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Jun 30, 2004, 3:11:09 PM6/30/04
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http://www.thedailystar.net/2004/06/30/d40630012525.htm

Bangladesh's trade deficit for fiscal year 2002-2003:

Total deficit - Taka 30,449 crore

Countrywise breakdown of Bangladesh's trade deficit:

India Tk 7,358.53 crore
Singapore Tk 5,006.59 crore
China Tk 4,408.28 crore
Hong Kong Tk 1,985.54 crore
Taiwan Tk 1,811.20 crore
South Korea Tk 1,773.84 crore
Japan Tk 1,693.80 crore
Indonesia Tk 1,012.00 crore
Malaysia Tk 952.28 crore
Thailand Tk 883.85 crore
Australia Tk 831.42 crore
Kuwait Tk 529.50 crore
Uzbekistan Tk 398.04 crore
Argentina Tk 394.95 crore
Switzerland Tk 324.08 crore
UAE Tk 300.31 crore
Saudi Arabia Tk 227.28 crore
Pakistan Tk 215.26 crore
Myanmar Tk 201.58 crore
Russia Tk 141.08 crore.

Mirza Ghalib

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Is there ANY country at all with which BD is running a surplus?
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