Bangladesh Bangers
Jay James
Please forgive me if I'm out of line by asking this question, but is it
true that in Bangladesh the elite engage in wild sex parties where they
swap partners? I understand it's part of the culture (not Muslim, but the
society's)
Thanks.
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Jay James <jayj...@rahul.net>
Ruhul Amin
>
>Please forgive me if I'm out of line by asking this question, but is it
>true that in Bangladesh the elite engage in wild sex parties where they
>swap partners? I understand it's part of the culture (not Muslim, but the
>society's)
>
Yes, you are out of line. Where in the world did you get this information?
What you asked above is absolutely wrong. Bangladesh is a conservative
society. It's not necessarily because of the Muslim population, it's part
of the culture. Even the non-Muslims are quite conservative in Bangladesh.
-- Ruhul Amin
Mohammed M Kashem
Huh?? Since when?
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Rafat M Sadiq
> true that in Bangladesh the elite engage in wild sex parties where they
> swap partners? I understand it's part of the culture (not Muslim, but the
> society's)
> Thanks.
Judging form our high birth rate, we do engage in intercourse
frequently. However, I'm sorry to say that Bangladeshi's are not
reputed to be as creative as Americans. Oh, and your question was way
out of line, and you're still not forgiven.
p.s. since you seem to have a keen interest in these matters, check out
the Kama Sutra.
Rafat M Sadiq
raf...@sage.cc.purdue.edu
Jay James
That's funny that nobody has ever heard of this rumour, as I heard it from
a foreign exchange student (though he had no first hand knowledge). It
makes you wonder sometimes who is telling the truth.... rumours, rumours,
what would we talk about if it wasn't for rumours? Not the "party line"
again (boring)...
Cheers,
PS--do the Bangladesh have a "secret police" like the Iranians do? Maybe
this explains the rigid positions taken by some people. Here in America
you can say whatever you want (though if the society continues to
degenerate as much as it has, this may no longer be true...)
--
Jay James <jayj...@rahul.net>
Nishit Dey
How about Satanic verses by Salman Rushide ?? I think it is the modern
version of Kama Sutra and so it will be easy for Mr. Jay James to follow.
Nishit Dey
p.s. When you want to defend yourself you have absolute right to do so
but don't pass the blame on a third person like a coward.
>Rafat M Sadiq
>raf...@sage.cc.purdue.edu
>
Rafat M Sadiq
Not yet. However I understand that the military is studying the
methods of the CIA and intends to form an organization to conduct
experiments on our citizens. What a brilliant idea! I'm kind of
upset that we didn't think of it earlier.
Rafat M Sadiq
raf...@sage.cc.purdue.edu
Javed Ikbal
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> Jay James <jayj...@rahul.net>
Answers in reverse order :
* No, no religious police in Bangladesh, although there are organizations
like DFI (Defence forces Intelligence), NSI (National Security
Intelligence. Lets not also forget the PSF(presidential security force) who
have the authority to kill on the slimmest excuse - but that does not mean
Bangladeshi people are tounge tied.
* What Jay have heard has some trouth to it. I can name 6 very powerful men
in Bangladesh who in the mid-'60s divorced their wives and re-married among
themselves, which can at best be called legallized wife-swapping. For those
who have forgotten, all of them were then CSPs (civil service of Pakistan).
One of them ( a famous poet in Bangladesh) now heads the Asian operation of
FAO, two are retired, one is a minister in the current government and the
other two heads semi-government corporations. (If you don't believe this,
ask any of your relatives who was old enough at that time.You may also want
to read "amra kotipoy amlar sthree(bureaucrats' wives)" by Abdul Gani
Hajari)
Though Ershad did not exactly engage in wife swapping, men sold(?) their
wives to Ershad for favors.
And get into a particular new-years eve party in a high-rise in banani
(thrown by an once-famous actress who gained notoriety when her nude
picture appeared in magazines) - you might be reminded of Caligulla's
story. I can go on - but the subject is sickening.
I just want to point out that this had happened and may still happen, but
not in the scale JJ mentions.
PS: what did nishit mean by equating Kama Sutra and Satanic Verses?
- Javed
M. Mikail Shams
I don't think you are going out of line by asking this question. I have
read some other follow up posts on this subject and all I can say is people
have the right to ask questions. It all depends on how you take it.
I don't think wild sex parties like orgies go on in Dhaka. So I guess the
truth was bent a little. The last time I was in Dhaka was for new years
eve in 1990. I was at this party in Gulshan where I was amazed to see all
this booze in one place. People were dancing like crazy in the dance floor.
Needless to say women were in saris, salwar camiz, jeens and in mini skirts
("not that there is anything wrong with it", Seinfeld says). People were
drunk, high and were gwtting into fights. I was just amazed to see the "upper
class" people in Western boots. Dhaka, especially the upper class have come
a long way. If you have the money there is nothing you can't get or do
sitting pretty in Dhaka.
P E A C E out
Mikail
Al-Kamal M. Karim
:
: Please forgive me if I'm out of line by asking this question, but is it
>>
I think Jay never realized it could creat a storm out of his immaturity.I don't know if your statement is true or not but it's a total impact on a culture that is unauthorised and somebody should be sorry for this kind of comment.However, about the little truth that Javed and Shams mentioned I have nothing to say but agree but nobody can generalize this.If one wants to give it a figure then I will suggest him to look at his back.Even kissing between lovers are not yet open how could we talk about orgies
like swapping partners?
Yes,religion is an important issue too.You can not do whatever you like in a place like Bangladesh ignoring your religion,your parents will take your head first.Again it does not count the relation between Satanic Verses and Kama Sutra in this regard.I don't think nikhil ever read SV.
wasif.sattar
I have heard stories of the new rich having parties in which car
keys of the participants are placed in a hat (or some other container)
and drawn at random to match a male with the spouse of the car's
owner. It may seem outrageous, but we must remember that the rich
class in any developing country (be it Bangladesh or Kuwait or Haiti)
do not necessarily have to abide by the standards of morals adopted by
the common folk!
Shubhechhante,
Wasif
Mumit Khan
>
>* What Jay have heard has some trouth to it. I can name 6 very powerful men
>in Bangladesh who in the mid-'60s divorced their wives and re-married among
>themselves, which can at best be called legallized wife-swapping. For those
>who have forgotten, all of them were then CSPs (civil service of Pakistan).
>One of them ( a famous poet in Bangladesh) now heads the Asian operation of
>FAO, two are retired, one is a minister in the current government and the
>other two heads semi-government corporations. (If you don't believe this,
>ask any of your relatives who was old enough at that time.You may also want
>to read "amra kotipoy amlar sthree(bureaucrats' wives)" by Abdul Gani
>Hajari)
So marrying the ex-spouse of a person you know is known as wife/spouse
swapping? wow! Talk about making wild and ridiculous statements.
So, Javed, would the following be the moral of your nifty statement: if
you are a divorcee, and you want to remarry, better find someone (and then
fall in love with, if that's ok with you) who either has never been
married before or had been married to someone you've never known socially
or/and personally.
Since you've all but named one with `head of Asian FAO', why not simply
spell out the names. Also, get your facts straight; the only one I can tell
from your description divorced in well into the 70's, not mid-60's.
And since you reference a great literary work by Hajari, may I reciprocate
by suggesting the literary gem `The First Ladies' :-)
ever enlightened
mumit - kh...@xraylith.wisc.edu
Sumitro Samaddar
>With regard to your china anecdote: the introduction of television
>probably coincided with a widespread increase in the standard of
>living, which is likely to have been the _real_ cause of the decrease
>in birth-rate.
I read about a dramatic fall in birthrate among the sulm dwellers in
Brazil recently being attributed to TV. I guess the ads of goodies on
TV spur people to have less kids so that they can afford goodies for
few kids. Besides, the rich characters on TV soaps usually have fewer
kids. Good role models, I guess.
- sumitro
T. Rashad Chowdhury
has probably has nothing better to do than to get his kicks out of soc.
groups on the net. He obviously was not asking for the sexual practices
of the demented few, he was wondering if sexual promiscuity is a regular
thing in BD. So just drop this low life and his fantasies and just move on.
Rashad Chowdhury
hassan monu alam
>In article <madmacs-23...@134.29.65.174> mad...@vax2.winona.msus.edu (Javed Ikbal) writes:
>>
>>* What Jay have heard has some trouth to it. I can name 6 very powerful men
>>in Bangladesh who in the mid-'60s divorced their wives and re-married among
>>themselves, which can at best be called legallized wife-swapping. For those
>>who have forgotten, all of them were then CSPs (civil service of Pakistan).
>>One of them ( a famous poet in Bangladesh) now heads the Asian operation of
>>FAO, two are retired, one is a minister in the current government and the
>>other two heads semi-government corporations. (If you don't believe this,
>>ask any of your relatives who was old enough at that time.You may also want
>>to read "amra kotipoy amlar sthree(bureaucrats' wives)" by Abdul Gani
>>Hajari)
What arrogance!!!! Everybody knows the wives were husband swapping :-).
Hassan
Jay James
Dhaka sounds like a "wild and crazy" town! Just my kind of place ;-)
It just goes to show that when a society makes something taboo,
"abstinence makes the heart grow fonder". No wonder the birth rates are
so high. I am reminded of a story that birthrates when down in China when
TV was introduced.
Cheers,
--
Jay James <jayj...@rahul.net>
Bagha Bangali
It's true that Bangladesh has a very high birth rate. Yet, unlike in
America, parents can keep track of their childern. Unlike here, more
than 99.99% children know who their parents are. Forgive me if my
observation sounds like I'm trying to define a nation of bastards. It's
just that I grew up in a society where you would be labeled as a bastard
if you don't know who your parent(s) are. Let me label it as "cultural
gap" and proceed condonning the dictionary-meaning of that controversial
word. Also we maintain a very high birthrate by not saying "hi babe..."
and then jumping on a "babe" like a dog. You are always welcome to
visit Bangladesh. However, let me warn you that you won't be able to
practice sex like cats and dogs over there. If you want to be "wild and
crazy" in Dhaka, you better take the addresses of the various foreign
diplomats and a few Bangladeshi "elites". And take lots of dough with
you, because it takes intelligence, good or bad, to earn a living in
Dhaka. I don't know how true is your "China" reference, but it is
possible to REASON, as opposed to BRAIN-WASH, with an intelligent nation
through any media. "Spanking a monkey" is not the end of the world.
Bagha
ba...@alpha.ee.ufl.edu
Kazi Zahin Hasan
>
>Dhaka sounds like a "wild and crazy" town! Just my kind of place ;-)
>It just goes to show that when a society makes something taboo,
>"abstinence makes the heart grow fonder". No wonder the birth rates are
>so high. I am reminded of a story that birthrates when down in China when
>TV was introduced.
Actually, the birth rates are high because people are poor, and need
children to support them in their old age. You will find in every
country that the poor tend to have more children.
With regard to your china anecdote: the introduction of television
probably coincided with a widespread increase in the standard of
living, which is likely to have been the _real_ cause of the decrease
in birth-rate.
Regards,
Zahin Hasan When a stupid man is doing something
ks...@columbia.edu he's ashamed of, he always declares
za...@occs.cs.oberlin.edu that it is his duty.
- George Bernard Shaw
Javed Ikbal
kh...@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Mumit Khan) wrote:
> So marrying the ex-spouse of a person you know is known as wife/spouse
> swapping? wow! Talk about making wild and ridiculous statements.
> So, Javed, would the following be the moral of your nifty statement: if
> you are a divorcee, and you want to remarry, better find someone (and then
> fall in love with, if that's ok with you) who either has never been
> married before or had been married to someone you've never known socially
> or/and personally.
>
> Since you've all but named one with `head of Asian FAO', why not simply
> spell out the names. Also, get your facts straight; the only one I can tell
> from your description divorced in well into the 70's, not mid-60's.
>
> And since you reference a great literary work by Hajari, may I reciprocate
> by suggesting the literary gem `The First Ladies' :-)
>
> ever enlightened
> mumit - kh...@xraylith.wisc.edu
Let me clarify: I have great respect for both the poet and his beautiful
wife, who is a marvelous robindro shongit singer. As for me divorcing and
remarrying, I guess it will be OK, unless I do it jointly with 5 other
friends as the people in my story did.
Now about the ridiculas statement of mine :
6 people, of the same CSP batch, drinking buddies at Dhaka club, divorces
their wives within a period of 2 weeks, then remarries, within a month. Do
I still seem ridiculas? When I called this wife swapping, I left out some
juicy details that are best left untold on a forum like scb. Another small
snippet: before this incident, CSPs were in very high demand as grooms in
the marriage market- but after this, there was a marked decrease in demand.
Regards
Javed
Sumitro Samaddar
>6 people, of the same CSP batch, drinking buddies at Dhaka club, divorces
>their wives within a period of 2 weeks, then remarries, within a month. Do
>I still seem ridiculas? When I called this wife swapping, I left out some
I would think that "wife swapping" implies exchanging wives for purpose
of sex for a single episode, not for life.
- sumitro
Javed Ikbal
Jay, wild and crazy yes, with "crazy" sometimes being the operative word.
Don't assume you'll jump straight into an orgy with your first step out of
the plane, or the people will have a field day with you and may even decide
to make you famous like John Bobbit. But be warned, medical facilities are
not yet on par with the US.
PS: [1] The so called wife-swappers very rarely will have more than 2
children. [2] Introduction of TV occured almost at the time when the
chinese gov't threatened people with loss of job and benefits if someone
had more than one child.
Jay James
: It's true that Bangladesh has a very high birth rate. Yet, unlike in
: America, parents can keep track of their childern. Unlike here, more
: than 99.99% children know who their parents are. Forgive me if my
: observation sounds like I'm trying to define a nation of bastards.
: It's
: just that I grew up in a society where you would be labeled as a
: bastard
: if you don't know who your parent(s) are. Let me label it as "cultural
: gap" and proceed condonning the dictionary-meaning of that controversial
: word.
There's no need to apologize. American's are a nation of bastards, and
proud of it. But it's not "bastard" but "one-parent children" or other
such nonsense. "Bastard" has too many negative connotations, like being a
social outcast. Since bastards are now a significant portion of the
population here, this term has to be redefined to avoid this connotation.
The rest of your post I agree with-- it is my observation that only the
ignorant (which, despite what you may think of me from reading these
posts, I am not) try "casual sex" with strangers anymore. However, this
is not to say that the "elite" (or even the rest) of the Bangladeshians do
not engage in sexual activities that are not part of the community's
traditional mores--refer to the other theads here.
