Bangabandhu Called for Liberation War
zam...@apsu.edu
dissemination. Thank you. W.zaman)
Who called for Liberation War-A Response
Date: 5 Aug, 1998
A. Latif Sarker
Ina City, Nagano, Japan
Email: sar...@gipmc.shinshu-u.ac.jp
Mr. Razi Khan's above-captioned article, published as NFB commentary on July
31 is referred. I have three points to contradict with Mr. Khan:
(1) Mujib's declaration of independence before his arrest: To refute the
claim that Mujib declared independence by himself before his imprisonment by
Pakistani army in the early hours of 26th March 1971, Mr. Razi Khan quoted
the interview between Sk. Mujib and David Frost. According to the description
of that interview, Mujib never claimed that he gave the order or signed any
document declaring Independent.
What about the possibility that Mujib did not claim about his declaration of
independence, as he was not asked by David Frost? Declaration of independence
is not a matter of remote past. It is possible to come across some people who
had their direct experience of listening to the declaration of independence.
I will present here a living person who heard Mujib's declaration with his
own ears. Before presenting that I need to reproduce the following verbatim
text from a web site- Bangladesh History (http://www.fastline.net) compiled
by Mr. M. Bari MUJIB DECLARES ...The declaration of independence by Sheikh
Mujibur Rahman was first broadcast on a wavelength close to that of the
official Pakistan Radio, from a TNT wireless, during the early hours on March
26, 1971. It was a pre-recorded message [1]. The declaration had been
recorded earlier before Pakistan Army arrested Sheikh Mujibur Rahman from his
house at Dhanmondi.[2]
Declaration of Independence
(Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's first message)
"This may be my last message. From today Bangla Desh is independent. I call
upon the people of Bangla Desh wherever you might be and with whatever you
have to resist the army of occupation to the last. Your fight must go on
until the last soldier of the Pakistan occupation army is expelled from the
soil of Bangla Desh and final victory is achieved." [3]
Former Director-General of Bangla Academy and former Vice-Chancellor of
Rajshahi University Dr. Mazharul Islammentioned about Sheikh Mujib's second
declaration in his essay titled 'Sthapati o Ghosak' (Architect and
Proclaimer).This second message was also broadcast through the TNT wireless.
Before his arrest Mujib personally called Chittagong Awami League leader
Zahur Ahmed Choudhury, his confidante, and explained him about the
declaration and the future scheme. Zahur Ahmed later received the copy of the
declaration from the office of Chittagong Wireless and forwarded the copy to
another Awami League leader M. A. Hannan who then announced the Declaration
of Independence over the Chittagong Radio on the evening of March 26, 1971.
Declaration of War of Independence
(Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's second message)
"Pak army suddenly attacked EPR base at Peelkhana, Rajarbabag Police Line and
killing citizens. Street battles are going on in every street of Dhaka and
Chittagong. I appeal to the nations of the world for help. Our freedom
fighters are gallantly fighting the enemy to free the motherland. I appeal
and order you all in the name of Almighty Allah to fight to the last drop of
blood to liberate the country. Ask the police, EPR, Bengal Regiment and
Ansars to stand by you and fight. No compromise. Victory is ours. Drive out
the last enemy from the holy soil of motherland. Convey this message to all
Awami League leaders, workers and other patriots. May Allah bless you. Joi
Bangla."[4]
References:
[1] Siddiq Salik, Witness to Surrender, Oxford University Press, Karachi,
1977, p. 75 Siddiq Salik writes; When the first shot had been fired, the
voice of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman came faintly through on a wavelength close to
that of the official Pakistan Radio. In what must have been, and sounded
like, a pre-recorded message, the Sheikh procliamed East Pakistan to be the
People's Republic of Bangla Desh, quoting David Loshak's book Pakistan
Crisis, London, 1971, p98-9.
[2] New York Times, January 16, 1972; Sheikh Mujibur Rahman in an interview
to New York Times Special Correspondent Sydney Showenberg.
[3] Government of Bangladesh, Bangladesher Shadhinata Juddho : Dalilpatra,
Vol 3, p. 1.
[4] Dr. Mazharul Islam, Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujib
==========================================- After the web site was launched,
a discussion followed in Internet discussion group- SCB. I found an article
submitted by Dr. M. Waheduzzaman, on second week of April 98 (I copied and
kept it in my email folder on April 10). The relevant portion to this
discussion of that article is as follows:
"Mr. Mohammad Bari, I have carefully perused some of the materials in your
site. I thank you very much for installing a SITE FOR projecting true
POILTICAL HISTORY OF BANGLADESH. Anyone who is interested in finding out the
TRUTH will be benefited from your HISTORY SITE. These are basic facts. Those
events had happened right in front of us. Your materials with reference to
declaration of independence is sanguine, and I appreciate your sincere
endeavor for making these facts readily available to many of us.
It was Bangabbandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman who had declared independence on
the very early hours of March 26' 1971-- immediately after Pakistani Military
crack down started. .............
It was on 26th of March 1971 when the declaration of independence was made by
Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman-- the pre-recorded message was transmitted
through Wireless. I heard that declaration with my own ears-- I was at
Kaliganj-- approximately 23 miles away from the city of Dacca. The voice of
Bangabandhu was clear but the sound of wireless was very feeble.
Along with many others, I was near a wireless receiver at KALIGANJ Police
Station (now under Gazipur district). We had heard that declaration of
independence again and again and again. To the best of my recollection, we
could hear that message till mid-morning................"
For the verification of my above quotes, Dr. Waheduzzaman can be contacted
either at: Mwz...@Aol.Com or zam...@apsu.edu
(2) The date of Zia's announcement: Mr. Razi Khan wrote that Zia broadcast
the message of independence on behalf of Mujib at 7:45 p.m. on March 26. One
reader has already questioned the correctness of the date by quoting a living
example - Mr. Belal Mohammad of Radio Bangladesh (NFB Readers' Opinion,
August 2).
I had an opportunity to go through an interview between Shamsul Huda
Chowdhury and Major Gen. Showkat Ali. This interview became a topic of
discussions in BD newspapers, when Gen. Showkat gave birth "Oil Drum Theory"
(Zia declared independence on March 26 standing on a Oil Drum) in a BTV
interview in 1991, contradictory to his earlier interview with Mr. Chowdhury.
The translated version of the relevant part of the earlier interview between
Gen. Showkat and Shamsul Huda Chowdhury in Bengali stands as below:
Q. What is your opinion about the declaration of independence through radio
broadcast ?
A. This is a controversial question. The question is always raised about the
declaration on radio, whether Gen Zia did it or it was done from Awami
League. As far as I know for the very first time people probably heard the
voice of Hannan Bhai from Chittagong Radio. That was probably around 2
O'clock in the afternoon of the 26th of March. But because the transmission
of the radio station was not very powerful, a great number of people could
not hear it. So, if it is asked whose revolutionary voice was heard on radio
for the first time, then I will say it is the voice of Hannan Bhai of
Chittagong. But it is true that the next day i.e. 27th March, 71, after Major
Zia's declaration was broadcast, the liberation war took a dramatic turn.
Q. Now tell me who was the declarer of independence ?
A. Ask your own conscience. It is undeniable that the during the critical
time of 25-26th March, every Bengali had independence in his mind. Every
Bengali on that day became a declarer of independence. But who was that great
leader that gave courage from behind the curtain to each Bengali ?
Whose call it was that inspired every Bengali ? Who taught the nation on the
7th of March, 1971 in the Race Course ( now Surhwardy Uddyan)--the slogan of
independence ? Who inspired the people at the Kalurghat radio transmission
station , who talked about independence and declaration from 26th March
onward ? On whose behalf they gave the call ? Whoever gave the call on radio
is merely a technical point. I don't want to get into this debate on
technicality. " (Source : "Ekatturer Ranangan" by Shamsul Huda Chowdhury,
Distributor : Ahmed Publishing House, 7 Zindabahar First Lane, Dhaka).
Another living example can be cited here. A retired radio engineer- Mr.
Moslem Khan, who actively participated in setting up the SWADHIN BANGLA BETAR
KENDRO wrote a article in Bengali describing his personal experience about
the declaration of independence. The article (HOW SWADHIN BANGLA BETAR KENDRA
STARTED) was translated by Dr. Bilayet Hossain and was posted in SCB in April
1998. According to Mr. Khan's personal experience, Zia broadcast his first
announcement around 7:00 PM of March 27, introducing himself as the Chief of
Liberation Army. This was protested by AL leadership and Zia gave the next
announcement on March 28 morning on behalf of Sk. Mujib. The authenticity of
my assertions can be ascertained by contacting Mr. Moslem Khan at :390/465
Shulkabahar, Chawkbazar, Chittagong and Dr. Bilayet Hossain at:
MBHO...@aardvark.ucs.ou.edu.
(3) Zia's citing himself as Chief of Liberation Army and his Promotion:
According to Mr. Moslem Khan, it seems true that Zia first declared himself
as the Chief of Liberation Army which annoyed AL leadership. Mr. Razi Khan's
citation of US Library of Congress' view also expresses a similar comment.
But I have strong reservation when Razi Khan wrote "This would explain Zia
not receiving any promoting during Mujib era." Ziaur Rahman was promoted from
a Major to Major General ( 4 steps up) during 1971-73 - he was made Deputy
Chief of Staff around October, 1973. However, we came to know recently from
Gen. Shafiullah's deposition in "Bangabandhu Murder Case" that although Zia
was senior to him, he (Shafiullah) was made Army Chief by Mujib, while Zia as
Deputy Chief. But it is a travesty of truth to comment that Zia was not given
any promotion during Mujib era.
My comment: No amount of distortions of Bangabandhu bashers can change the
fact that it was Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman who had first formally
declared independence for Bangladesh immediately after midnight night of
March 25, 1971. Notwithstanding the fact that there were very capable leaders
in the calibre of Tajuddin Ahmed in the then Awami League, it was Bangabandhu
who was the undisputed leader of Bangalees of the then East Pakistan. It was
Bangandhu who was the SOLE spokesman of the entire Bangalee people of the
then East Pakistan. It is totally false to state that we the people of the
then East Pakistan were waiting for a call from the unknown MAJOR of
Pakistan's genocidal Army for waging our war of independence. It is a
travesty of truth even to indicate that our liberation war was fought after
we heard Ziaur Rahman's voice from radio on march 27, 1971. It is well
recorded fact that actual fighting for our liberation war started in many
places immediately after Pakistani brute military animals started genocidal
war on the night of March 25, 1971. I appreciate Mr. A. Latif Sarker's
sincere effort aimed at squarely refuting fraudulent claims of
Bangabandhu-bashers on the declaration of Bangladesh's independence.
Respectfully submitted, M.Waheeduzzaman (mwz...@aol.com).
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum
desi
>Sir,
>It will remain a Historical fact that the Bangladesh liberation from
>Pakistan happened due to a series of blunders, mistake and wrong decisions
>made by "advisors" of then dictator Gen. Yahya Khan and power greedy
>Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.
>(1) Fact is that Mujib never wanted an independent Bangladesh other than
>full provincial autonomy and "hence" Mujib never declared independence......
>and he had no idea whatsoever of any kind what was happening then in (East
>Pakistan) now Bangladesh.
>(2) All these nonsence by "NEW" (pro-Awami League) historians of Bangladesh
>that only Awami League led the liberation war and Mujib declared the
>independence on March 26, 1971 is also another WHITE lies. It is also a
>historical fact that Liberation war was "NOT" led by Awami League alone.
>Those days most of Awami League's senior party leaders were in Calcutta
>having a good time under the protection of Indian Government as state guest.
>They had no idea how liberation war was taking shape.
>(3) Lets go back to one example of history weather Mujib indeed wanted an
>independent Bangladesh and what he did and what was his state of mind when
>he left Pakistani jail and arrived in London.
>I Quote writing from a book Chapter II, "A False Start" Page 5 &
>6,BANGLADEH, A Legacy of Blood by Anthony Mascarenhas, a very close foreign
>friend of Shiekh Mujib since 1956....
>Page 5, Para 2,
>It was a little after 9 a.m. on 8 january, 1972 a Saturday, exactly 23 days
>after the formal birth of Bangladesh was achived by the surrender of 93,000
>Pakistani troops to the "Indian" army in Dhaka.
>President Zulfiquar Ali Bhutto, who only a few days earlier had replaced
>Gen. Yahya Khan as the new Pakistani head of State, had unexpectedly put
>Mujib and his former constitutional head of advisor, Dr. Kamal Hussain, on a
>PIA Boeing for a secret flight to London.
>Page 6 Para 3
>Now we were togeather again, friends/professionals, in London, with Mujib
>about to start the most momentous game of his life. We talked, and I sat and
>listened while he talked to others. And I finally left to write my story it
>was with the unsettling impression that Shiekh Mujibur Rahman, Bangabandhu,
>President of Bangladesh's man on a white charger, at the moment of taking up
>his stewardship had only the foggiest notion of what it was all about.
>What's more, he was secretly nursing a tentative deal with Zulfiquar Ali
>Bhutto which would have maintained a 'LINK' between Pakistan and its
>breakaway province, Bangladesh.
>I got a glimpse of this UNSAVOURY deal, which was totally at variance with
>the Bangladeshi mood, when Mujib confided me:
> 'I have a big scoop for you. We are going to keep some link with
>Pakistan but I can't say anything more till I have talked it over with the
>others. And for Gods sake don't you write anything till I tell you.'
Thanks for the info
>zam...@apsu.edu wrote in message <6qaadu$q2m$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
ConcernedBangali
"Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com> wrote:
>Sir,
>It will remain a Historical fact that the Bangladesh liberation from
>Pakistan happened due to a series of blunders, mistake and wrong decisions
>made by "advisors" of then dictator Gen. Yahya Khan and power greedy
>Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.
>(1) Fact is that Mujib never wanted an independent Bangladesh other than
>full provincial autonomy and "hence" Mujib never declared independence......
>and he had no idea whatsoever of any kind what was happening then in (East
>Pakistan) now Bangladesh.
>(2) All these nonsence by "NEW" (pro-Awami League) historians of Bangladesh
>that only Awami League led the liberation war and Mujib declared the
>independence on March 26, 1971 is also another WHITE lies. It is also a
>historical fact that Liberation war was "NOT" led by Awami League alone.
>Those days most of Awami League's senior party leaders were in Calcutta
>having a good time under the protection of Indian Government as state guest.
>They had no idea how liberation war was taking shape.
I still do not understand why AL waited long four months for
power.Election was held on the basis of Pakistan and under Yahya's LFO
and AL described its manifesto to the people of Pakistan. It was known
to everyone that AL would work for Provincial Autonomy and removal of
disparity. They won the election then why they didn't get the power
and why they were waiting. Later many thing happened - hijacking of
IAL Focker Friendship plane, prohibition of overflying by PIA planes
by India, postponment on national assembly meeting at Dhaka, removal
of Gen. Shahibjada Yakub Khan as Governor and Gen. Fazal Muqeem Khan
as Chief of military in East Pakistan, appointment of Gen. Tikka khan
and Gen. Niazi as Governor and Chief respectively, disarming Bangali
Soldiers, armed fighting between Bangali and pakistani Soldiers.
On March 1, 1971 Sheik Mujib took control of East Pakistan. Everything
was happening under his command. Even Gen. Tikka could not find any
judge to sworn in as Governor as whole nation was on non-cooperation
with Pakistanis under the direction from AL and Sheik Mujib.
During the middle of March AL started talking to Yahya and Bhutto to
decide the fate of Pakistan. According to a statistics on March 1,
1971 there were only 3000-4000 west Pakistani soldiers and about
12000-15000 bengali soldiers stationed in East Pakistan. By March 25,
1971 West Pakistani Soldiers rose to 125,000 and bangali soldiers
reduced to zero and this build up happened in just 25 days in front
of AL. AL leader were still talking and probably about their
portfolio. There were number of sporadic fighting reports with
casualties. Now my question is what was agenda of that so called round
table talk and why that talk was necessary. AL elaborated precisely
its program in the election manifesto. All was needed to hand over the
power and AL would do the rest as per peoples verdict. On March 25,
1971 talks failed and genocide started as planned and BANGLADESH was
born.
Now the question is why AL never objected to this massive Military
build-up. Was there were any threat from India or Burma during that
time? After the December70 election what was goal and strategy of AL
to get control of Pakistan in its entirerity. We always blame
Pakistanis for the killings in 1971, they did, but at whose fault? Did
we ever learned to share the blame and responsibility with them.
Genocide of Bangladesh was preplanned. The Military Junta fooled the
then so called leaders. AL leaders croosed the border. But ultimate
price was paid by the 75 million people. They didn't know where to go
and hide. AL leaders never told the 75 million people to cross the
border. They never learnt what was the sufferings 75 million had
during nine months.
>Page 6 Para 3
>zam...@apsu.edu wrote in message <6qaadu$q2m$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
Iftekhar Hassan
It will remain a Historical fact that the Bangladesh liberation from
Pakistan happened due to a series of blunders, mistake and wrong decisions
made by "advisors" of then dictator Gen. Yahya Khan and power greedy
Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.
(1) Fact is that Mujib never wanted an independent Bangladesh other than
full provincial autonomy and "hence" Mujib never declared independence......
and he had no idea whatsoever of any kind what was happening then in (East
Pakistan) now Bangladesh.
(2) All these nonsence by "NEW" (pro-Awami League) historians of Bangladesh
that only Awami League led the liberation war and Mujib declared the
independence on March 26, 1971 is also another WHITE lies. It is also a
historical fact that Liberation war was "NOT" led by Awami League alone.
Those days most of Awami League's senior party leaders were in Calcutta
having a good time under the protection of Indian Government as state guest.
They had no idea how liberation war was taking shape.
Page 6 Para 3
concernedBangali
>ConcernedBangali wrote in message <6qd1th$a...@portal.gmu.edu>...
>>
>>"Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Sir,
>>
>>>It will remain a Historical fact that the Bangladesh liberation from
>>>Pakistan happened due to a series of blunders, mistake and wrong decisions
>>>made by "advisors" of then dictator Gen. Yahya Khan and power greedy
>>>Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.
>>
>>>(1) Fact is that Mujib never wanted an independent Bangladesh other than
>>>full provincial autonomy and "hence" Mujib never declared
>independence......
>>>and he had no idea whatsoever of any kind what was happening then in (East
>>>Pakistan) now Bangladesh.
>>
>>>(2) All these nonsence by "NEW" (pro-Awami League) historians of
>Bangladesh
>>>that only Awami League led the liberation war and Mujib declared the
>>>independence on March 26, 1971 is also another WHITE lies. It is also a
>>>historical fact that Liberation war was "NOT" led by Awami League alone.
>>>Those days most of Awami League's senior party leaders were in Calcutta
>>>having a good time under the protection of Indian Government as state
>guest.
>>>They had no idea how liberation war was taking shape.
>>I still do not understand why AL waited long four months for
>>power?.
>The reason Awami League had to wait long four months for power is because
>West Pakistani Leadership (civil & political) never trusted or treated
>Shiekh Mujib and Bengali nation as equal!! this is the naked truth. I think
>Yahya's brain was fed by West Pakistani civil, political, business and army
>leadership against Mujib as India's Chela.
>The reason AL waited for so long is beacause Mujib was indeed sincere and
>serious about negotiation and and becoming Prime Minister of Pakistan. He
>knew the power of Pakistani army and he was convinced that he must have
>Pakistani army's "full backing" before he take over the government of
>Pakistan and go to Islamabad to rule. He did not wanted to become another
>Nazumuddin, Iskander Mirza to be remove from power in Islamabad, where Mujib
>had almost zero support.
>Mujib knew the "TREMENDIOUS" pressure Yahya Khan was under at that time
>from Bhutto, Daulatana, Khairuddin, Khan Abdul Kayum Khan, Jamat, Rich
>Pakistani families and other Generals of Pakistan.
Was Mujib afraid of ruling Pakistan? He should known about these
difficulties. Bottomline is he failed to achieve what he committed to
75 million people. People expected that they would get the taste of
ruling Pakistan by Mujib for the first time and have equal share of
resources. But What we got?
>Election was held on the basis of Pakistan and under Yahya's LFO
>>and AL described its manifesto to the people of Pakistan. It was known
>>to everyone that AL would work for Provincial Autonomy and removal of
>>disparity. They won the election then why they didn't get the power
>>and why they were waiting.
>Well..dont forget it was Pakistan and the year was 1971, country was under
>army rule since 1958, when did honesty in politics was ever there in
>Pakistan? Lets go back to 1948...all Jinnah had to say in his only trip to
>East Pakistan that Bengali and Urdu will be the national language of
>Pakistan. "Not only Urdu". and that was the blunder.
> Later many thing happened - hijacking of
>>IAL Focker Friendship plane, prohibition of overflying by PIA planes
>>by India, postponment on national assembly meeting at Dhaka, removal
>>of Gen. Shahibjada Yakub Khan as Governor and Gen. Fazal Muqeem Khan
>>as Chief of military in East Pakistan, appointment of Gen. Tikka khan
>>and Gen. Niazi as Governor and Chief respectively, disarming Bangali.
>Again, you must remember that Pakistani elites, almost all of them West
>Pakistani never accepted us as equal and it was very hard for them to accept
>the reality of election result that Mujib is next prime minister of
>Pakistan.
>>Soldiers, armed fighting between Bangali and pakistani Soldiers.
>I disagree any large scale clash, mostly minor, if any..
>>On March 1, 1971 Sheik Mujib took control of East Pakistan. Everything
>>was happening under his command. Even Gen. Tikka could not find any
>>judge to sworn in as Governor as whole nation was on non-cooperation
>>with Pakistanis under the direction from AL and Sheik Mujib.
>>
>>During the middle of March AL started talking to Yahya and Bhutto to
>>decide the fate of Pakistan. According to a statistics on March 1,
>>1971 there were only 3000-4000 west Pakistani soldiers and about
>>12000-15000 bengali soldiers stationed in East Pakistan. By March 25,
>>1971 West Pakistani Soldiers rose to 125,000 and bangali soldiers
>>reduced to zero
>Not True: if you say zero, than what Zia-ur-Rahman was doing in Chittagong?
May be you are right.But without arms what was Ziaur Rahman?
> and this build up happened in just 25 days in front
>>of AL.
>Correct number is about 26,700 regular Pakistani army came in to East
>Pakistan in 4 weeks time, After March 26, 1971 2nd Baluch regiment and
>30,000 additional defence personnels moved to East Pak, as Bengalees in
>Defence was send to West Pak.
> AL leader were still talking and probably about their
>>portfolio.
>Also thinking about Liecence + Permit + making money
>There were number of sporadic fighting reports with
>>casualties.
>Before March 26, 1971 most casualties were Biharis in North Bengal,
>Murder, Rape Loots etc. by mostly Awami Leaguers.
>This may also have some effect on Yahya Khans mind to crack down on March
>26, 1971 in East Pakistan.
>Now my question is what was agenda of that so called round
>>table talk and why that talk was necessary.
>Well..that dirty man(may allah forgive his sins).Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and
>other Pakistani (ISLAM is FINISHED group) raised some constitutional
>question to sit down and destroy brain of Yahya ( the small amount he had
>left)
>AL elaborated precisely
>>its program in the election manifesto. All was needed to hand over the
>>power and AL would do the rest as per peoples verdict. On March 25,
>>1971 talks failed and genocide started as planned and BANGLADESH was
>>born.
>>
>>Now the question is why AL never objected to this massive Military
>>build-up.
>I dont think AL had any idea that fellow Pakistani will pull trigger on them
>like what they did.
> Was there were any threat from India or Burma during that
>>time?
>I am 100% sure Ms. Ghandi did "not" send a letter to Indian intellegence and
>spy agencies advising them to follow good naibors policy and stand by side
>and not take any advantage.
>Burma? Dont know!!
>After the December70 election what was goal and strategy of AL to get
>control of Pakistan in its entirerity. We always blame
>>Pakistanis
>Please remember, those days not too many AL workers and party heads were as
>smart as you think.
>When AL workers saw Malitary Jeep they ran so fast pulling "LUNGI" on their
>head.
> for the killings in 1971, they did, but at whose fault? Did
>>we ever learned to share the blame and responsibility with them.
>Why blaming AL for that?? Blame Pakistan, Blame Bhutto and cronies and
>YAHYA.
>>
>>Genocide of Bangladesh was preplanned.
>I dont think it was preplanned at all...there were a total of (only) 600
>army members in 12 group participated on the night of March 25, 1971, its a
>fact..see operation plan of LT. COL ARIF of Pak Army, published by news
>paper (DAWN?) 1972.
Iftekhar Hassan
>
>>Sir,
>
>>It will remain a Historical fact that the Bangladesh liberation from
>>Pakistan happened due to a series of blunders, mistake and wrong decisions
>>made by "advisors" of then dictator Gen. Yahya Khan and power greedy
>>Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.
>
>>(1) Fact is that Mujib never wanted an independent Bangladesh other than
>>full provincial autonomy and "hence" Mujib never declared
independence......
>>and he had no idea whatsoever of any kind what was happening then in (East
>>Pakistan) now Bangladesh.
>
>>(2) All these nonsence by "NEW" (pro-Awami League) historians of
Bangladesh
>>that only Awami League led the liberation war and Mujib declared the
>>independence on March 26, 1971 is also another WHITE lies. It is also a
>>historical fact that Liberation war was "NOT" led by Awami League alone.
>>Those days most of Awami League's senior party leaders were in Calcutta
>>having a good time under the protection of Indian Government as state
guest.
>>They had no idea how liberation war was taking shape.
>I still do not understand why AL waited long four months for
>power?.
The reason Awami League had to wait long four months for power is because
West Pakistani Leadership (civil & political) never trusted or treated
Shiekh Mujib and Bengali nation as equal!! this is the naked truth. I think
Yahya's brain was fed by West Pakistani civil, political, business and army
leadership against Mujib as India's Chela.
The reason AL waited for so long is beacause Mujib was indeed sincere and
serious about negotiation and and becoming Prime Minister of Pakistan. He
knew the power of Pakistani army and he was convinced that he must have
Pakistani army's "full backing" before he take over the government of
Pakistan and go to Islamabad to rule. He did not wanted to become another
Nazumuddin, Iskander Mirza to be remove from power in Islamabad, where Mujib
had almost zero support.
Mujib knew the "TREMENDIOUS" pressure Yahya Khan was under at that time
from Bhutto, Daulatana, Khairuddin, Khan Abdul Kayum Khan, Jamat, Rich
Pakistani families and other Generals of Pakistan.
Election was held on the basis of Pakistan and under Yahya's LFO
>and AL described its manifesto to the people of Pakistan. It was known
>to everyone that AL would work for Provincial Autonomy and removal of
>disparity. They won the election then why they didn't get the power
>and why they were waiting.
Well..dont forget it was Pakistan and the year was 1971, country was under
army rule since 1958, when did honesty in politics was ever there in
Pakistan? Lets go back to 1948...all Jinnah had to say in his only trip to
East Pakistan that Bengali and Urdu will be the national language of
Pakistan. "Not only Urdu". and that was the blunder.
Later many thing happened - hijacking of
>IAL Focker Friendship plane, prohibition of overflying by PIA planes
>by India, postponment on national assembly meeting at Dhaka, removal
>of Gen. Shahibjada Yakub Khan as Governor and Gen. Fazal Muqeem Khan
>as Chief of military in East Pakistan, appointment of Gen. Tikka khan
>and Gen. Niazi as Governor and Chief respectively, disarming Bangali.
Again, you must remember that Pakistani elites, almost all of them West
Pakistani never accepted us as equal and it was very hard for them to accept
the reality of election result that Mujib is next prime minister of
Pakistan.
>Soldiers, armed fighting between Bangali and pakistani Soldiers.
I disagree any large scale clash, mostly minor, if any..
>On March 1, 1971 Sheik Mujib took control of East Pakistan. Everything
>was happening under his command. Even Gen. Tikka could not find any
>judge to sworn in as Governor as whole nation was on non-cooperation
>with Pakistanis under the direction from AL and Sheik Mujib.
>
>During the middle of March AL started talking to Yahya and Bhutto to
>decide the fate of Pakistan. According to a statistics on March 1,
>1971 there were only 3000-4000 west Pakistani soldiers and about
>12000-15000 bengali soldiers stationed in East Pakistan. By March 25,
>1971 West Pakistani Soldiers rose to 125,000 and bangali soldiers
>reduced to zero
Not True: if you say zero, than what Zia-ur-Rahman was doing in Chittagong?
and this build up happened in just 25 days in front
>of AL.
Correct number is about 26,700 regular Pakistani army came in to East
Pakistan in 4 weeks time, After March 26, 1971 2nd Baluch regiment and
30,000 additional defence personnels moved to East Pak, as Bengalees in
Defence was send to West Pak.
AL leader were still talking and probably about their
>portfolio.
Also thinking about Liecence + Permit + making money
There were number of sporadic fighting reports with
>casualties.
Before March 26, 1971 most casualties were Biharis in North Bengal,
Murder, Rape Loots etc. by mostly Awami Leaguers.
This may also have some effect on Yahya Khans mind to crack down on March
26, 1971 in East Pakistan.
Now my question is what was agenda of that so called round
>table talk and why that talk was necessary.
Well..that dirty man(may allah forgive his sins).Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and
other Pakistani (ISLAM is FINISHED group) raised some constitutional
question to sit down and destroy brain of Yahya ( the small amount he had
left)
AL elaborated precisely
>its program in the election manifesto. All was needed to hand over the
>power and AL would do the rest as per peoples verdict. On March 25,
>1971 talks failed and genocide started as planned and BANGLADESH was
>born.
>
>Now the question is why AL never objected to this massive Military
>build-up.
I dont think AL had any idea that fellow Pakistani will pull trigger on them
like what they did.
Was there were any threat from India or Burma during that
>time?
I am 100% sure Ms. Ghandi did "not" send a letter to Indian intellegence and
spy agencies advising them to follow good naibors policy and stand by side
and not take any advantage.
Burma? Dont know!!
After the December70 election what was goal and strategy of AL to get
control of Pakistan in its entirerity. We always blame
>Pakistanis
Please remember, those days not too many AL workers and party heads were as
smart as you think.
When AL workers saw Malitary Jeep they ran so fast pulling "LUNGI" on their
head.
for the killings in 1971, they did, but at whose fault? Did
>we ever learned to share the blame and responsibility with them.
Why blaming AL for that?? Blame Pakistan, Blame Bhutto and cronies and
YAHYA.
>
>Genocide of Bangladesh was preplanned.
I dont think it was preplanned at all...there were a total of (only) 600
army members in 12 group participated on the night of March 25, 1971, its a
fact..see operation plan of LT. COL ARIF of Pak Army, published by news
paper (DAWN?) 1972.
MWz...@aol.com
BANGABANDHU CALLED FOR LIBERATION WAR
by M. Waheeduzzaman
M.Waheeduzzaman responds to IFTEKHAR HASSAN’S ANTI-BANGABANDHU PROPAGANDA:
The SCB Netters and readers are fully aware that I have posted a number of
write-ups on Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, the Founding Father of
today’s People’s Republic of Bangaladesh. To the best of my abilities, I
express my views clearly and boldly. And my views on the Founding Father of
the nation are no exceptions. Yet I have no fantasy that my contentions
about Bangabandhu will be universally supported. I have no problem if someone
disagrees with me.
I never forget that a man who had spent more than twelve years of his adult
life in various Jails for articulating the Bangalee grievances against the
then Pakistani ruling elite was brutally murdered on August 1 5, 1975. A
man who did not deviate a period (full stop) or coma from his famous
Six-Point Programs even under combined pressure of Pakistani Military Junta
and Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was mercilessly murdered along with his wife, three
sons and other family members in independent Bangladesh. The name of that
man was Sheikh Mujibur Rahman—the undisputed leader of Bangalees of the then
East Pakistan.
We know who were the killers of Bangabandhu. We also know who had been the
sponsors and beneficiaries of Bangabandhu’s killers. The entire nation knows
who had been paying BLOOD Money to the killers of the elected President of
the Republic. The SCB netters also know who are the defenders of the
professed killers of the Father of the Nation. There are netters who have
said that somebody else had written Bangabandhu’s historical March 7, 1971
Speech. Laulak Siddique tells us that Bangalees had committed genocide on
Bangalees in 1971. There are Pakistani minded Bangalees who would love to
squarely blame Bangabandhu for the break-up of Pakistan. Yet there are
Bangalees like Iftekhar Hassan who will say that Bangabandhu had no plan
for independent Bangladesh. Iftekhar Hassan type of Bangalees will not
hesitate even for a moment to characterize the founding father of Bangladesh
as pro-Pakistani. He is now saying that Bangabanndhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
was having a good time in Pakistani Jail during 1971 !
In my humble assessment, Iftekhar Hassan’s blatant lies and absurd claims
have dwarfed the comments of many anti-Bangabandhu posters. I have found
Iftekhar Hassan’s comments on Bangabandhu and our liberation war to be self-
serving and contradictory. It is indeed difficult to comment on his scb posts
which are full of redundant and useless generalizations. It needs to be
noted that I find many of his posts on Bangladesh very demeaning and
patronizing. For example, Iftekhar Hassan tells us through Internet that
there are 2 million Bangladeshi beggars in Karachi. Before I saw his posts
on Bangabandhu (on August 7 and Aug. 8), I read advance copies of his posts
through his self- appreciating duplicate posters (Desi and ConcernedBangali)
on August 6 and 7 ! I sincerely thought that this Iftekhar Hassan is the
cousin brother of Laulak Siddique, a twisted Pakistani who had claimed that
our Bangalee freedom fighters had committed genocide in Bangladesh in 1971.
Notwithstanding the irrelevance and uselessness of Iftekhar Hassan’s
contentions and characterizations about Bangladesh and Bangabandhu, the
intent of this note is to refute various misleading views of this brand of
renegades:
1. It is indeed preposterous on Iftekhar Hassan’s part to claim that the
creation of Bangladesh is the direct result of “a series of blunders,
mistakes and wrong decision made by advisors of the then dictator Gen. Yahya
Khan and power greedy Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.”
Rather the truth of the matter was just the opposite of Iftekhar Hassan’s
distortions. Bangladesh is the direct result of Bangalees’ determination for
carving out an independent state. Bangladesh was the result of Bangalees’
struggle for freedom and independence. And Bangabandhu provided the
charismatic leadership for our freedom struggle.
It remains a “historical’ fact that Bangabandhu’s name is synonymous with
our struggle for Bangladesh’s independence. Even a quisling of Ghulam Azam’s
stature has not questioned Bangabandhu’s contribution toward Bangladesh’s
independence. “The White Paper on East Pakistan Crisis,” which was prepared
by Pakistani Military regime during the Pakistani Genocidal War in 1971
clearly noted Bangabandhu’s refusal to compromise on the Six-Point Program,
the magna carta of Bangalee rights. In his book THE LAST OF UNITED
PAKISTAN, Dr. G.W. Chowdhury verified that Bangabandhu consistently refused
to compromise his demands for full autonomy based on Six-Point program. The
recently published books written by some Pakistani scholars and Civil
Servants clearly recognize that it was Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman who
had refused to compromise his Six-Point program. In their recently published
memoirs, the Pakistani War Criminals like A. Niazi and Rao Forman Ali have
seethingly criticized Bangabandhu’s uncompromising stand on Six-point
program. Outstanding British (W.H. Morris-Jones, Peter Lyons) and American
(Marcus Franda, Wayne A. Wilcox, Craig Baxter, Robert LaPorte, Jr.) political
scientists have fully recognized the sanguine role of Bangabandhu’s
charismatic leadership in the making of Bangladesh’s struggle for freedom and
independence. Although many Bangladeshi political scientists are very
critical about the effectiveness of Bangabandhu’s role as the head of the
Government in independent Bangladesh, there is almost a consensus among
those Bamngladeshi scholars (Rashiduzzaman, Talukder Moniruzzaman, Raunaq
Jahan, Zillur Rahman Khan and Emajuddin Ahmad for example) about the
monumental role Bangabandhu had played in the emergence of Bangladesh as a
sovereign nation-state. Iftekhar Hassan’s malicious propaganda against our
political history is at sharp variance with most of the universally accepted
facts. I don’t think any amount of selective amnesia of Iftekhar Hassan brand
of renegade can erase Bangabandhu’s contribution toward our independence.
2. Iftekhar Hassan is saying that Bangabandhu never wanted independence for
Bangladesh. . Therefore, Bangabandhu never declared independence. Iftekhar
Hassan also emphasizes that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman “had no idea whatsoever of
any kind what was happening then in (East Pakistan) now Bangladesh.” What an
argument ! Sheikh Mujibur Rahman did not know what was going on in March 1971
! Who were those leaders who knew what was going on in the then East
Pakistan? It seems to me that Iftekhar Hassan wants to say that Jamaat
leader Ghulam Azam, PDP leaders like Nurul Amin, Hamidul Hoque Chowdhury
and Mahmud Ali and Muslim League leaders like Sabur Khan, Khwaja Khairuddin
and Fazlul Quader Chowdhury were the defenders of Bangalees’ legitimate
rights in 1971! These Pro- Pakistani elements, according to Iftekhar
Hassan, are the Founding Fathers of today’s Bangladesh !
3. No one has to be a “new” historian to tell the truth about the birth of
Bangladesh as an independent nation-state. Bangladesh did not emerge all on
a sudden on December 16, 1971. The emergence of Bangladesh was the
culmination of a long struggle of Bangalees for gaining full independence
from the colonial rulers of Pakistan. It will be totally wrong to claim that
Awami League was the only party which asked for independence. There were
other parties which also fought greater autonomy for the then East Pakistan.
Maulana Bhashani had demanded for Bangladesh’s independence.
Yet it was the Awami League which consciously spearheaded Bangalees’ quest
for emancipation and independence. The dynamic and charismatic leadership of
Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman led us to the victory. The Awami League
was the INSTRUMENT and EXPRESSION of articulating the demands of Bangalee
rights. It was the Awami League under the inspiring leadership of Bangabandhu
which had earned the MANDATATE in 1970 general elections from an
extraordinary majority of Bangalees of the then East Pakistan. It was the
Awami League which had emerged as the ONLY legitimate party to represent
Bangalee interest in 1971. Bangabandhu was the undisputed and legitimate
spokesman of Bangalees of the then East Pakistan. It was Bangabandhu at whose
clarion call the Bangalees fought for liberating their motherland from the
Pakistani occupation forces.
It is not at all correct to claim that our liberation war was fought by only
Awami Leaguers. With the exception pro-Pakistani quislings, liberation war
was fought by all Bangalees without any regard to political affiliations or
orientations. After March 1, 1971 Bangabandhu symbolized the entire Bangalee
nation even though he was the President of Awami League. Bangabandhu’s call
on March 7th, 1971 was a call for total emancipation and independence. It was
Bangabandhu who had formally Declared for Independence in the early hours of
March 26, 1971.
Although liberation war was a peoples’ war by any definition, the Awami
League led our Muktijuddha. For better or worse, the Awami League dominated
all phases of our liberation war. It was the top Awami League leadership
which had legitimately formed the Bangladesh Government-in-Exile. It was
Bangabandhu who was made the President of the the Republic even though he was
imprisoned in Pakistani jail. During the fateful nine months of 1971, the
Liberation War was fought in Bangabandhu’s name. Tajuddin Ahmed, the Prime
Minister of the Government-in-exile had successfully led our Muktijuddha.
These are well established facts. No amount of tinkering can blot these
historical facts.
It is also well recorded fact that the Indian Government had mobilized its
support and logistics through the Bangladesh Governmet-in-exile. What was
impact of this ? According to Talukder Maniruzzaman (THE BANGLADESH
REVOLUTION AND ITS AFTERMATH, Upl,1988, p.141): “The result was that the
leftist party leaders and cadres who sought shelter in India could play only
a secondary role in the liberation war.” There is no denying the fact all of
the leftist parties especially Bhashani NAP and its Student Unions,
Pro-Moscow NAP and its Student Union, Communist Party of Bangladesh, Krishak
Samity and Trade Union Center etc had taken part in our liberation war. (see
Talukder Maniruzzamn, ibid. p. 141 for leftist role in our liberation war).
What was the role of RIGHTIST POLITICAL PARTIES during Bangladesh’s
liberation war? All of the rights parties especially Jamaat, Muslim League and
PDP were on the Pakistani side. It is well documented that these reactionary
parties were the defenders of Pakistan. They were on the side of the Pakistani
military animals. They were willing partners of Pakistani genocidal army
before, during and after our liberation war. They were creators and providers
of Peace Committees, Razakars, Al-Badars and Al-Shamas. In view of this, no
pro-Jamaati elements of Bangladesh or war criminals are in a position to
verify who had supported or fought for our liberation. An admirer of
Dictator Ayub Khan or Jallad Yahya Khan or a supporter Jamaat is not the right
person to attest the role of Awami League or Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
in the emergence of Bangladesh.
4. Aimed at establishing his malicious lies about Bangabandhu, Iftekhar
Hassan has quoted from from Anthony Mascarenhas’ book titled THE RAPE OF
BANGLADESH: A LEGACY OF BLOOD. Iftekhar Hassan’s quotation from this book is
totally out of context. I have read both the English and Bengali versions of
the book. Let me make the following observation on Mr. Mascarenhas’ book:
Anthony Mascarnhas’ THE RAPE OF BANGLADESH—is a well written book.
Doubtless, this book contains some reliable and interesting of information. .
Yet it needs to be clearly pointed out that Mascarenhas’ RAPE OF BANGLADESH
is full of half truths, baseless information, unverifiable gossips and
innuendoes. It is apparent from even cursory perusal of the book that
Marcarhas has a tendency to distort facts in order to tantalize the readers.
It is fair to suggest that his knack for tantalizing often knew no bounds.
His book is a source of various misinformation and mischaracterization about
Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur (This book also contains blatant lies about the
assassinated President Ziaur Rahman). It is a great shame that a well known
journalist like Anthony Macarenhas did heavily rely on the professed killers
of Bangabandhu to write this book.
The quotation from Mascarenhas’ book which Iftekhar Hassan cited in his
malicious SCB post is an appropriate sample of unsubstantiated gossips. On
his arrival in Dhaka on January 10, 1971 from Pakistani custody via London,
Bangabandhu told the whole world in front of millions of Banngalees in the
then Race Course Maidan that Z.A. Bhutto had requested him to see if some
kind of loose political connection could be restored between Pakistan and
Bangladesh. Bangabandhu gave the reply in public that it is neither possible
nor desirable for Bangladesh to re-establish political linkage with Pakistan.
There was nothing secret about it. It is preposterous to assume that
Bangabandhu’s release from Pakistan was contingent upon certain conditions.
Absolutely not. Bangabandhu’s release from Pakistan was unconditional for
which he did not have to negotiate with Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. In view of this,
let me say that Marcarenhas’ observation is full of blatant lies and
malicious conjectures. Only an ignorant individual filled with hatred can
quote or disseminate such tantalizing distortions about the Founding Father of
Bangladesh.
Respectfully submitted for the perusal of the readers. Sincerely, M.
Waheeduzzaman (mwz...@aol.com).
--------------------------
POSTSCRIPT FROM W.ZAMAN: The following are some of the write-ups of Iftekhr
Hasssan. Hopefully, the perusal of the following scb posts might give us idea
in what does he project Bangladesh or Bangladeshis. Once a while he looks for
Maududi’s books. That’s his freedom of choice. It his his freedom of choice to
pursue Islamic unity. I wish him the best.
Iftekhar Hassan then sermonizes us about the good things Ayub Khan did for
Bangalees. According to him, we would have been still ploughing our soil had
there been no miltary dictatorshipm under Ayub Khan in Pakistan for one
decade! That’s his freedom of choice! Yet I am not amused about his
patronizing comments. This very Ayub Khan had projected or stereotyped the
entire Bangalee people as deceitful, devious and villainous people. Ayub Khan
deliberately projected Bangalee Muslims as inferior Muslims. AYUB’s infamous
book titled FRIENDS NOT MASTERS projected Bangalee race as inferior race. We
were subjugated by Ayub Khan for one decade. This very Ayub Khan wanted to
silence the voice of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman through the “language of weapons.”
At the behest of Ayub Khan, the Agartala Conspiracy Case was deliberately
hatched against Sheikh Mujib, the champion of famous Six-Point programs. It
was Ayub Khan who had disgraced the Bengali pride by appointing MONEM KHAN as
the Governor of the then East Pakistan. It was Ayub Khan against whom we had
to wage mass movement in the then East Pakistan.
Doubtless, Bangladesh is a developing nation. Bangladesh has many problems.
Yet I am not amused when Iftekhar Hassan tries to carricature the plight of
poorer sections of my countrymen. To me, Bangladesh is not a bottomless
basket. I am not amused when he says that Bangladeshis have no standard of
living. Like many other Bangalees with self-respect, I can’t be amused when
Iftekhar Hassan claims that there are more than 2 million Bangladeshi beggars
in Karachi! I am not from Noakhali. Yet I am not amused when Iftekhar Hassan
shamelessly disseminates through Intrnet a tasteless joke about NOAKHALI
district. With the deepest regards, M. Waheeduzzaman:
Subject: Re: Bangabandhu Called for Liberation War
From: "Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1998/08/07
Message-ID: <6qcsoa$2ca$1...@winter.news.erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Sir,
It will remain a Historical fact that the Bangladesh liberation from
Pakistan happened due to a series of blunders, mistake and wrong decisions
made by "advisors" of then dictator Gen. Yahya Khan and power greedy
Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.
(1) Fact is that Mujib never wanted an independent Bangladesh other than
full provincial autonomy and "hence" Mujib never declared independence......
and he had no idea whatsoever of any kind what was happening then in (East
Pakistan) now Bangladesh.
(2) All these nonsence by "NEW" (pro-Awami League) historians of Bangladesh
that only Awami League led the liberation war and Mujib declared the
independence on March 26, 1971 is also another WHITE lies. It is also a
historical fact that Liberation war was "NOT" led by Awami League alone.
Those days most of Awami League's senior party leaders were in Calcutta
having a good time under the protection of Indian Government as state guest.
They had no idea how liberation war was taking shape.
(3) Lets go back to one example of history weather Mujib indeed wanted an
Page 6 Para 3
others. And for Gods sake don't you write anything till I tell you.”
Subject: Re: Mujib...Father of Nation??
From: concernedBangali
Date: 1998/08/07
Message-ID: <6qf042$u...@portal.gmu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com> wrote:
>Why Shiekh Mujibur Rahman should not be the Father of Nation?
AGREE: Frankly speaking, whatever he did, he was not authorised to do
that. People voted him to rule Pakistan in its entirerity. His
strategy was wrong and contradictory ans ill motivated. AL and Sheik
was completly unware what was going on that time and they failed to
understand the situation. Sheik was having good time in Pakistani Jail
and was busy in making deal with Bhutto. He never brought the
independence it was imposed on us. We fought the the war keeping his
picture in front of us because we relied him too much. If we are not
biased and analyse the situation between December70 to March 25, 1971
we will find the answer. Mujib was wrong strategy was wrong and above
all objective was also wrong. Bluntly speaking he was capable of
running Pakistan, the reason he was voted for. I made him partly
responsible for 3 million lives and destruction of the country.
ConcernedBangali
>(1) agree_______________Why?
>(2) Disagree_____________Why Not?
>Please post your opinion
Subject: Mujib...Father of Nation??
From: "Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1998/08/08
Message-ID: <6qe4fe$p1j$1...@winter.news.erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
[More Headers]
[Subscribe to soc.culture.bangladesh]
Why Shiekh Mujibur Rahman should not be the Father of Nation?
(1) agree_______________Why?
(2) Disagree_____________Why Not?
Please post your opinion
Subject: Re: Bangabandhu Called for Liberation War
From: "Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1998/08/08
Message-ID: <6qe45v$nqb$1...@winter.news.erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
[To the Readers: the following post has appeared on August 8, 1998. It is
interesting that ConcernedBangali’s posting came out on aug. 7 ’98-- before
Iftekhar Hassan’s posts got out.. It seems to me that Iftekhar Hassan is the
concerned Bangali. Be that it may, the following post is also reproduced.
However, certain segments have been deleted in order to avoid repition.
Thanks. W.Zaman]
ConcernedBangali wrote in message <6qd1th$a...@portal.gmu.edu>...
>
>"Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com> wrote:
>
>>Sir,
>
>>It will remain a Historical fact that the Bangladesh liberation from
>>Pakistan happened due to a series of blunders, mistake and wrong decisions
>>made by "advisors" of then dictator Gen. Yahya Khan and power greedy
>>Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto..------------------------
>born.Now the question is why AL never objected to this massive Military
>build-up.
Burma? Dont know!!
>…--------------------
(REST OF the MATERIALS especially quotes from Anthony Mascarenhas are deleted
from this post. W.zaman)
Subject: Re: Bangladeshis undercut Indian wages
From: "Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1998/08/09
Message-ID: <6qj1df$mht$1...@winter.news.erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
[More Headers]
[Subscribe to soc.culture.bangladesh]
DRKHALID1 wrote in message
<199808041921...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>I have been to India, and without any question, an average Bangladeshi has
a
>higher standard of living than an average Indian.
Standard of Living?? and Bangladesh??? hehehehehe
Ya Right!! 15 million house servent (or slaves) and eating leftover Dal and
Bhat.Thats the standard of living of average Bangladeshi??
How much these poor servent they are paid in Bangladesh??? 100 Takas a month
on average in Bangladesh? How about 50% never get paid a penny!! and how
about whiping/beating that these poor souls get from Banglar Bhodhus?
hehehehehehehe After working straight 16 hours and sleeping on the floor?
They get one Lungi or old saree per year...and lucky if get another during
Eid..thats the true Standard of Bangladesh.
As far as I am concern there is no standard of living in Bangladesh, the
country has turned into a HELLHOLE.
I have also seen India but please...be honest to yourself, they are far
ahead of us.....The Switzerland of the East
--------------------------------------
Subject: Maulana Maududi
From: Iftekhar Hassan <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1997/09/13
Message-ID: <341A40...@erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
[More Headers]
[Subscribe to soc.culture.bangladesh]
Can anyone refer me to any book written/translated in Bengali or english
by this great Islamic leader. I understand his name is often quoted all over
middle-east related to true Islamic Republic.
Thank you in advance.
Subject: Re: Maulana Maududi
From: Iftekhar Hassan <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1997/09/14
Message-ID: <341BD0...@erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
[More Headers]
[Subscribe to soc.culture.bangladesh]
ssy...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 03:26:31 -0400, Iftekhar Hassan <hnh...@erols.com> wrot:
Can anyone refer me to any book written/translated in Bengali or english by
this great Islamic leader. I understand his name is often quoted all over
middle-east related to true Islamic Republic. Thank you in advance.
Ssy...@gpu.srv.ualaberta.ca wrote: assalamualaikum, I can refer you a huge
number of books by Moulana Moududi translated in Bengali. For example,
Tafhimul Quran , 19 volume ( Translation and Commentary), Khilafat O
Raztantra, Sunnate Rasuler Aingoto Morzada,Islamer Haqikat etc.. and I think
most of these books have English versions too. Adhunik Prokashoni and Moulana
Moududi research academy in dhaka mainly publish his books. Hope that this
is of some help.
> Posted using Reference.COM http://www.reference.com
> Browse, Search and Post Usenet and Mailing list Archive and Catalog.
>
> InReference, Inc. accepts no responsibility for the content of this posting.
Thank you so much, I will be contacting them to get some books written
by this great man.
I.Hassan
Subject: Islamic Unity
From: Iftekhar Hassan <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1997/08/06
Message-ID: <33E805...@erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Dear brother & Sister
Can we all exchange more ideas related to "FRIENDSHIP AMONG MUSLIM
ANYWHERE AND HOW TO DEVELOP IT"?? via net?? Let us exchange ideas as open
discussion foster independent thinking! respectfully yours
Iftekhar Hassan
Subject: Ayub's Son
From: Iftekhar Hassan <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1997/03/12
Message-ID: <33276F...@erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
[More Headers]
[Subscribe to soc.culture.bangladesh]
Hi all,
"AYUB KHAN WAS A LEGENT...HE WAS A LEADER FIT FOR THE CROOKS" OF
BOTH EAST PAKISTAN (NOW BANGLADESH) AND WEST PAKISTAN (NOW PAKISTAN)
I dont understand why you people's from Bangladesh and Pakistan
constantly condemm A great personality and leader like Ayub Khan.
His contribution toward development of both wings of Pakistan within a
short 8 years are a success story that no one can ignore.
Was it not for Ayub Khan, some of you may still be plowing fields in
Bangladesh and Pakistan without shirt and shoes as a share croppers.
Look at the fact how many graduate was there in whole of pakistan in
1957 and how many in 1970!Look at the total money spend on education
sectors by Ayub Khan's regime?
Hate monger and criminal nationalist liars, such as Bhutto and Mujib was
only good to incite illetrate and hungry masses with promise of gold,
and deliver what???....shit???
You people dont pay taxes (so called highly educated), you borrow money
from banks for industrial projects and take a round the world vacation
with that money and built palace like houses in Clifton or Gulshan,
country pays for your education (tax money farmers and industry)from
kinder garden....upto college level and you become doctors, engineers,
Phd and you leave the country come to the west and act and talk half
truth like jewish journalist. If you are lucky you get to stay home as
you get a government job, you become over night rich with $100 a month
salary, soon your kids goes to Europe and America and you become
so-called "top class family".
Both countries are listed as den of crooks No.2 and some No.4 in the
whole world. You people still practice a kind of slavery (your household
servents for example). You whip them, degrade them,beat them, sexually
abuse them and you let them sleep in the floor with only one rag type
clothing and pay them $1.00 to $5.00 per month salary.
and you say Ayub Khan was bad...we want democracy!!
Do you think most Pakistani and Bangladeshi you have right to vote?
In terms of contribution to mankind and invention you are almost
nil..begging for aid, grants and charities from every concevable
International agencies every morning.
Oh socalled highly educated people from Bangladesh and Pakistan tell me
how much total contribution or charity you have given to orphanage
houses, to the blinds and helpless of your respective country, I am sure
its next to nothing. But you sure talk about millions, equality, justice
and democracy and Ayub Khan was very bad.
I will take Ayub Khan any time, because he was honest, truthful and he
had the ability and above all he had the character.
And the character is needed to create institution and institutions must
support democracy if democracy is to survive! and thats what Ayub was
after!
subject: Bangladeshi beggers in Karachi, Mumbai & Calcutta
From: "Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1998/07/30
Message-ID: <6pma3b$b3u$1...@winter.news.erols.com>
Can anyone knows or direct me kindly where can I get the real number or
"close to it" How many Bangladeshi beggers are in Karachi, Pakistan as well as
those in Mumbai & Calcutta India? Some estimate put the numbers at 2 millions
in Karachi alone and another 2 millions in India.
How did these poor souls got in there from Bangladesh?
Which (NGO) if any, helping them?
Thanks & Regards
----------
ubject: Re: Bangladeshi beggers in Karachi, Mumbai & Calcutta
From: "Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1998/08/04
Message-ID: <6q3ijf$olk$1...@winter.news.erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Mr. Edi Amin,
I was just trying to find out the real number of the Bangladeshi beggers in
India and Pakistan and the organization thats helping them for a wealthy
trust/foundation in the United States that want to help by sending some money
to these poor people. By the way, I am a by birth, a Bangladeshi and not an
Indian or Pakistani. I do not understand why your post was so negative?
Everybody should help a poor regardless of religion, you seem to have serious
self esteem problem,
Think about it!!
Subject: Re: 2001 intellectuals(or shitheads) oppose reception to Hasina
another shithead
From: "Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1998/07/22
Message-ID: <6p1cr8$ahq$1...@winter.news.erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
2001 Intellectuals???? in Bangladesh???
Thats an interesting news!!
Is there Intellectual (s) in Bangladesh?
WOW!!...What they did for humanity?
WOW!!...What they did for Bangladeshis?
WOW!!... What did they discovered?
WOW!!...anything ever (in history) patented from these Intellectuals?
WOW!!.. I think they are bunch of shitheads. Fraud, & Choors.
I think all of the above Shitheads are slave keepers under the name of
servents (slaves) at home, they pay these poor souls $5 a month for solid
12 hours of work, and make them sleep on the floor, feed them their
leftovers rice and dal, and whip them almost always.
Dont give me that Intellectuals of Bangladesh "BULLSHIT" I have seen it all
there...
Subject: Re: US diplomat told of harassment of visa applicants
From: "Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1998/07/27
Message-ID: <6pfuag$rg0$1...@winter.news.erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
I think U.S. Embassy is Right!! Every Bangalee applicant is a possible risk
in terms of wanted to settle in the United States for ever!! U.S. Embassy
treat Bangladeshi very nicely. Stop you B.S.
Subject: Noahkhali's "a joke by Iftekhar Hassan"
From: "Iftekhar Hassan" <hnh...@erols.com>
Date: 1998/07/30
Message-ID: <6pmeqp$4eo$1...@winter.news.erols.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
[More Headers]
[Subscribe to soc.culture.bangladesh]
Hazrat Noor "pbuh" is also known in bible as "Prophet Noah"
Many many years ago Noah had a boat with all the animals like cows and
goats etc. which he packed on this great boat to save them from flood.
After the great flood was over Noah's boat came near an Island off bay of
bengal. Prophet Noah was tired and deep in sleep. People of this Island (char)
empty the boats all animals "KHALI". Since Noahs boat was empty at this
location..whe he wake up, he gave the name of the Island as "Noahkhali"
Beacause Noahs boat was "Khali" here. just a joke..no flame...
----------------
zam...@apsu.edu wrote in message <6qaadu$q2m$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>(Reprinted from Global Amitech's NEWS FROM BANGLADESH, AUGUST 5, 1998 for
dissemination. Thank you. W.zaman)
Who called for Liberation War-A Response
Date: 5 Aug, 1998
A. Latif Sarker
Ina City, Nagano, Japan
Email: sar...@gipmc.shinshu-u.ac.jp
For limitaion of space I have deleted the rest of this post. Thanks. W.zaman.
Iftekhar Hassan
MWz...@Aol.Com wrote in message <6qjl5s$nuu$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>
>
>
>BANGABANDHU CALLED FOR LIBERATION WAR
"NO'....HE NEVER DID!!!!! YOU ARE A LIAR! YOU ARE THE AGENT OF BAKSHAL! AN
AGENT OF MUJIB-MONI-MOZZAFFAR CHOKRO.
MUJIBS PERFECT TITLE SHOULD BE OR CALLED MUJIB-UR-RAHMAN or LENIN OF THE
EAST WITH AN EMPTY... BASKET ON HIS HAND WITH BIG HOLE.
BEGGING FOR HIS "BAKSHAL" CRONIES.
AND NOT FOR US....... THE PROUD BANGLALEES, DEFENDERS OF FREDOM, DEMOCRACY
AND FREE ENTERPRISES..
" AMRA BHATE MARBO.....AMRA PANITE MARBO....
Hasan Jamil
>
> MWz...@Aol.Com wrote in message <6qjl5s$nuu$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >
> >
> >
> >BANGABANDHU CALLED FOR LIBERATION WAR
>
> "NO'....HE NEVER DID!!!!! YOU ARE A LIAR!
Its a very strong word Iftekhar. Before you call someone a liar, you
have the obligation to show what did he lie about. So far, all I found
in Dr. Zaman's posts is facts and some interpretation of facts by him.
As a political scientist he has that right and authority which you may
not agree. But, we (I take the liberty) do not have the authority to
draw such conclusions or interpret events at our will. This is not to
say that we should not and we don't. We do all the time. However,
without a proper background and research, the credibility remains an
issue. Thats why most of our observations are opinions, and his (and his
likes) is somewhat credible and fact. So, show us, where did he lie.
Don't just call someone a liar.
> YOU ARE THE AGENT OF BAKSHAL! AN
> AGENT OF MUJIB-MONI-MOZZAFFAR CHOKRO.
Is this not the same old 'compliment' people give to pro-ALers or so
when they have lost the argument or have nothing to say?
> MUJIBS PERFECT TITLE SHOULD BE OR CALLED MUJIB-UR-RAHMAN or LENIN OF THE
> EAST WITH AN EMPTY... BASKET ON HIS HAND WITH BIG HOLE.
>
> BEGGING FOR HIS "BAKSHAL" CRONIES.
Fine. But consider this. If he begged, he was begger and did not deserve
to represent proud people like you, but if he did not people like me
were dying of hunger. Yet we balme him for the famine if 74. What do you
think he should have done?
As for Bakshal, what do you think of the subsequent 'leaders'? They
begged for 'us'? If they begged at all ofcourse.
>
> AND NOT FOR US....... THE PROUD BANGLALEES, DEFENDERS OF FREDOM, DEMOCRACY
> AND FREE ENTERPRISES..
Are we proud? And defender of freedom, democracy and free enterprises?
Wow!! Since when?
- Jamil.