Bullshit
The Russian economy degrades with terrifying speed
For example.
Here in Tver.
Excavator building plant is closed
People are dismissed
Car-building factory is on the verge of a stop
But if to look GDP numbers, Russia is climbing up pretty fast? Where
is all that new money?
I guess you know where is that money
It is the time to sing International again in Russia. :-)
A lot of older people in Estonia are a bit nostalgic about some
aspects of Soviet life - feel of security in everyday life at first,
then relations between individuals. I think there are more such
feelings in Russia coz for us it was also freedom, independence, feel
of security for a future of nation.
There are slow variables and quick variables. There are slow derivatives
and quick ones.
Trusov i panikerov rasstrelivat' na meste!
Learn math. Helps.
It is not better in the US - unemployment still growing but the dynamics
points to the reverse by February - March. Situation is definitely
turning around.
VM.
Yeah, except if the Recession lasts for few years Russia was forced to
sing "International" for much longer.
VM.
Yes, yes, i know it.
There is some saying about those variables in Russia.
"Пока толстый сохнет - тонкий сдохнет".
Thin man will peg out during fatso is growing thin
> Trusov i panikerov rasstrelivat' na meste!
> Learn math. Helps.
I know that too.
Did you read polemics of russian writer Zakhar Prilepin with Jewish oligarch
Peter Aven?
Aven is prepared to shoot, he has assets for that too.
> It is not better in the US - unemployment still growing but the dynamics
> points to the reverse by February - March. Situation is definitely
> turning around.
You mean unemployment growing signify US bridge recession?
>
> VM.
>
>
You know Russians harness slowly but ride fast.
>
> VM.
>
I guess even freedom-loving estonians would choose bread for their families
if they are challenged with a choice between bread and freedom.
Well I think there is much more bread and freedom in both Estonia and
Russia today. But maybe less friendship and stability.
For that particular case there is a State - the whole reason of
existence of a State to provide Security and Safety Net: let people play
game but make sure if House wins people do not have to take their pants
off to pay: look at Russia's worst enemy - Finland which installed its
boy to pump our natural resources. Today it is probably one of most
efficient countries in the world in cost/benefit ratio.
> Thin man will peg out during fatso is growing thin
Stop whining. Eto Kurskaya Duga. Ne nravitsya - polozhite partbilet na
stol, leitenant Danilov. Potom vyidete v sortir shtoby ryadovye ne
videli i - u vas est' revol'ver?
>
>> Trusov i panikerov rasstrelivat' na meste!
>> Learn math. Helps.
>
> I know that too.
> Did you read polemics of russian writer Zakhar Prilepin with Jewish
> oligarch Peter Aven?
> Aven is prepared to shoot, he has assets for that too.
I paid attention to how you defined this particular guy - "Jewish
Oligarch". Did he grow up among us on some planet which was called
"Jewish Oligarchs"?
For Christ sake (another super Jewish Oligarch) - give me a brake. These
guys play in Russia for a good reason - whatever you think they are
Russians.
>
>> It is not better in the US - unemployment still growing but the
>> dynamics points to the reverse by February - March. Situation is
>> definitely turning around.
>
> You mean unemployment growing signify US bridge recession?
>
It means very ugly thing - people are still are got thrown in the
streets but accountant books because of that looks better and better -
see how Wall Street likes it.
But there is at last a dim light in the end of the tunnel.
And thanks Obama there is an extension of unemployment benefits (doesn't
it sounds mocking - "benefits"?)
And my personal, very biased unreliable estimate - my parking lot at the
morning train to the Gotham getting filled again.
VM.
The problem with us Russians we ride fast without GPS.
VM.
>
>>
>> VM.
>>
>
>
Duraki i dorogi.
That all is not present in today Russia.
>
>> Thin man will peg out during fatso is growing thin
>
> Stop whining. Eto Kurskaya Duga. Ne nravitsya - polozhite partbilet na
> stol, leitenant Danilov. Potom vyidete v sortir shtoby ryadovye ne videli
> i - u vas est' revol'ver?
It's not my war, Vashe Blagorodiye.
And it is not Kurskaya Duga.
I'm not going to fight for Dardanelles as Abramovich's cannon fodder.
And i will not fight for Miller's gas concerns against ukrainians too.
>
>>
>>> Trusov i panikerov rasstrelivat' na meste!
>>> Learn math. Helps.
>>
>> I know that too.
>> Did you read polemics of russian writer Zakhar Prilepin with Jewish
>> oligarch Peter Aven?
>> Aven is prepared to shoot, he has assets for that too.
>
> I paid attention to how you defined this particular guy - "Jewish
> Oligarch". Did he grow up among us on some planet which was called
> "Jewish Oligarchs"?
> For Christ sake (another super Jewish Oligarch) - give me a brake. These
> guys play in Russia for a good reason - whatever you think they are
> Russians.
OK it's no matter russian or jewish.
They all are prepared to shoot down all russian peoples for a good reason of
teir pocket.
>
>>
>>> It is not better in the US - unemployment still growing but the dynamics
>>> points to the reverse by February - March. Situation is definitely
>>> turning around.
>>
>> You mean unemployment growing signify US bridge recession?
>>
>
> It means very ugly thing - people are still are got thrown in the streets
> but accountant books because of that looks better and better - see how
> Wall Street likes it.
> But there is at last a dim light in the end of the tunnel.
>
> And thanks Obama there is an extension of unemployment benefits (doesn't
> it sounds mocking - "benefits"?)
>
> And my personal, very biased unreliable estimate - my parking lot at the
> morning train to the Gotham getting filled again.
And my personal, very biased unreliable estimate - excavator building plant
near my work is stopped and trams do not go there any more.
Do you know what is a name for situation when rail service are stopping?
>
> VM.
>
Our guys are forced to do that when other guys ride fast at the expense of
our GDP
I agree with you on friendship and stability but question of bread is not
such simple in Russia today too.
It is not how you should approach this - show/prove me if there is no
improvement vs 1998.
>
>>
>>> Thin man will peg out during fatso is growing thin
>>
>> Stop whining. Eto Kurskaya Duga. Ne nravitsya - polozhite partbilet na
>> stol, leitenant Danilov. Potom vyidete v sortir shtoby ryadovye ne
>> videli i - u vas est' revol'ver?
>
> It's not my war, Vashe Blagorodiye.
> And it is not Kurskaya Duga.
> I'm not going to fight for Dardanelles as Abramovich's cannon fodder.
I am not a fan of oligarchs but make exception for Abramovich - apart
from the fact that I respect his difficult - before oligarchy biography,
I respect what he did when securing his law immunity before he struck a
deal with Putin: while being a governor of Chukotka he fixed schools,
hospitals and created jobs - moving Chukotka from the bottom of 89
regions ratings to top ten. I don't care what was his motives I care
that he raised the region.
It was the only criminal case on my memory when governor was accused of
illegally contributing personal money to region's budget, not stealing
from it.
> And i will not fight for Miller's gas concerns against ukrainians too.
Gazprom as you know very well fights not Ukranians but Uke oligarchs,
i.e. thieves.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> Trusov i panikerov rasstrelivat' na meste!
>>>> Learn math. Helps.
>>>
>>> I know that too.
>>> Did you read polemics of russian writer Zakhar Prilepin with Jewish
>>> oligarch Peter Aven?
>>> Aven is prepared to shoot, he has assets for that too.
>>
>> I paid attention to how you defined this particular guy - "Jewish
>> Oligarch". Did he grow up among us on some planet which was called
>> "Jewish Oligarchs"?
>> For Christ sake (another super Jewish Oligarch) - give me a brake.
>> These guys play in Russia for a good reason - whatever you think they
>> are Russians.
>
> OK it's no matter russian or jewish.
> They all are prepared to shoot down all russian peoples for a good
> reason of teir pocket.
I just tried to make a point that defining them as "Jewish" is self
destructive : an attempt to classify enemies of society basing on
ethnicity had been made in XX cent with disastrous results that
unimaginable scumbags grabbed everything.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> It is not better in the US - unemployment still growing but the
>>>> dynamics points to the reverse by February - March. Situation is
>>>> definitely turning around.
>>>
>>> You mean unemployment growing signify US bridge recession?
>>>
>>
>> It means very ugly thing - people are still are got thrown in the
>> streets but accountant books because of that looks better and better -
>> see how Wall Street likes it.
>> But there is at last a dim light in the end of the tunnel.
>>
>> And thanks Obama there is an extension of unemployment benefits
>> (doesn't it sounds mocking - "benefits"?)
>>
>> And my personal, very biased unreliable estimate - my parking lot at
>> the morning train to the Gotham getting filled again.
>
> And my personal, very biased unreliable estimate - excavator building
> plant near my work is stopped and trams do not go there any more.
> Do you know what is a name for situation when rail service are stopping?
Ever heard about city Detroit? Soon I will recommend it to Vello - for
his sci-fi archeology exhibition of the future - it will be on par with
Troy.
VM.
Vse Blagorodiya, kak kazhdyi rebenok v Rossii znaet, libo v Parizhe,
libo na yahte Abramovicha. U kogo nastoyashie den'gi - na US Virgin
Islands. Truzheniki kak ya - v Amerike na materike materyas' tyanem
lyamku. A vam Gospodin Danilov (ili kak tam vas pravil'no - "knyaz"
navernoe?) s takoi podozritel'no aristokratichekoi familiei ya by ne
sovetoval osobenno napirat' na "blagorodie", a to eshe NKVD, bozhe
upasi, zaintersuetsya rodoslovnoi. Tak prazdnye umozaklyucheniya...
VM.
Do not disclose the most guarded state secrets, traitor.
VM.
There is no difference between 1998 and 2009 in state gameplay.
First, Russia saves linear scale of income tax until now.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> Thin man will peg out during fatso is growing thin
>>>
>>> Stop whining. Eto Kurskaya Duga. Ne nravitsya - polozhite partbilet na
>>> stol, leitenant Danilov. Potom vyidete v sortir shtoby ryadovye ne
>>> videli i - u vas est' revol'ver?
>>
>> It's not my war, Vashe Blagorodiye.
>> And it is not Kurskaya Duga.
>> I'm not going to fight for Dardanelles as Abramovich's cannon fodder.
>
> I am not a fan of oligarchs but make exception for Abramovich - apart from
> the fact that I respect his difficult - before oligarchy biography, I
> respect what he did when securing his law immunity before he struck a deal
> with Putin: while being a governor of Chukotka he fixed schools, hospitals
> and created jobs - moving Chukotka from the bottom of 89 regions ratings
> to top ten. I don't care what was his motives I care that he raised the
> region.
All his philanthropic PR is drop in the bucket in amount of state property
he has stolen.
> It was the only criminal case on my memory when governor was accused of
> illegally contributing personal money to region's budget, not stealing
> from it.
It is you have said it.
>
>> And i will not fight for Miller's gas concerns against ukrainians too.
>
> Gazprom as you know very well fights not Ukranians but Uke oligarchs, i.e.
> thieves.
lol
Gazprom is the same, i.e thieves.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Trusov i panikerov rasstrelivat' na meste!
>>>>> Learn math. Helps.
>>>>
>>>> I know that too.
>>>> Did you read polemics of russian writer Zakhar Prilepin with Jewish
>>>> oligarch Peter Aven?
>>>> Aven is prepared to shoot, he has assets for that too.
>>>
>>> I paid attention to how you defined this particular guy - "Jewish
>>> Oligarch". Did he grow up among us on some planet which was called
>>> "Jewish Oligarchs"?
>>> For Christ sake (another super Jewish Oligarch) - give me a brake. These
>>> guys play in Russia for a good reason - whatever you think they are
>>> Russians.
>>
>> OK it's no matter russian or jewish.
>> They all are prepared to shoot down all russian peoples for a good reason
>> of teir pocket.
>
> I just tried to make a point that defining them as "Jewish" is self
> destructive : an attempt to classify enemies of society basing on
> ethnicity had been made in XX cent with disastrous results that
> unimaginable scumbags grabbed everything.
I agree with you.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It is not better in the US - unemployment still growing but the
>>>>> dynamics points to the reverse by February - March. Situation is
>>>>> definitely turning around.
>>>>
>>>> You mean unemployment growing signify US bridge recession?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It means very ugly thing - people are still are got thrown in the
>>> streets but accountant books because of that looks better and better -
>>> see how Wall Street likes it.
>>> But there is at last a dim light in the end of the tunnel.
>>>
>>> And thanks Obama there is an extension of unemployment benefits (doesn't
>>> it sounds mocking - "benefits"?)
>>>
>>> And my personal, very biased unreliable estimate - my parking lot at the
>>> morning train to the Gotham getting filled again.
>>
>> And my personal, very biased unreliable estimate - excavator building
>> plant near my work is stopped and trams do not go there any more.
>> Do you know what is a name for situation when rail service are stopping?
>
> Ever heard about city Detroit? Soon I will recommend it to Vello - for his
> sci-fi archeology exhibition of the future - it will be on par with Troy.
But what would you say if all USA were like city Detroit?
Russia practically is deindustrialized now.
And situation takes a turn for the worse
> VM.
>
>> It's not my war, Vashe Blagorodiye.
>> And it is not Kurskaya Duga.
>> I'm not going to fight for Dardanelles as Abramovich's cannon fodder.
>> And i will not fight for Miller's gas concerns against ukrainians too.
>
> Vse Blagorodiya, kak kazhdyi rebenok v Rossii znaet, libo v Parizhe, libo
> na yahte Abramovicha. U kogo nastoyashie den'gi - na US Virgin Islands.
> Truzheniki kak ya - v Amerike na materike materyas' tyanem lyamku. A vam
> Gospodin Danilov (ili kak tam vas pravil'no - "knyaz" navernoe?) s takoi
> podozritel'no aristokratichekoi familiei ya by ne sovetoval osobenno
> napirat' na "blagorodie", a to eshe NKVD, bozhe upasi, zaintersuetsya
> rodoslovnoi. Tak prazdnye umozaklyucheniya...
Умозаключения неправильные.
Для русского человека каждый иностранец - это князь, а американский
иностранец - это всем князям князь.
Даже американский redneck в России - предмет всеобщего восхищения, ведь он
же живет в самой Америке.
Так что Ваше Благородие самое правильное обращение для такой колониальной
страны, как Россия.
Ну, можно еще Сахиб, если это для вас привычнее.
Характерно, что даже у простого американского труженика, такого, как вы не
вызывает сомнение превосходство английского языка перед всеми языками мира.
Вот была у меня проблема выбора написания латиницей своей фамилии.
Можно было написать Danilov - согласно англискому варианту
Можно по немецки, Danilow, а можно согласно французских правил - Daniloff.
Так у вас даже не возникло сомнения, что я как зомби должен был ползти вслед
остальным англофилам, которые даже Мицубиси - традиционно русское
произношение, теперь произносят, как Мицубишы
Кстати, всем известный водочный король Smirnoff (Петр Арсеньевич Смирнов)
был ярославским крепостным крестьянином.
>
> > VM.
>
Nu vy grazhdanin Danilov tol'ko Mayakovskogo iz sebya ne stroite - tozhe
mne frantsuz nashelsya. Takih farntsuzov na Lubyanke v uyutnyh
odnokomanthyh (sovmeshennye tualet, koika i dush) kak Latviitsev v
kabinetah etazhom povyhse.
A shto kasaetsya moih vystradannyh (neposil'nym trudom mezahdu prochim -
tak chtoby vsyakie knyaz'ya znali, - belyi hleb ne raastet na derev'yah
batonami) uspehov v ogorazhivanii moego teplogo mesta pod Amerikanskim
solncem - poezzhaite v Tashkent, naprimer kvasom torgovat', budem na
odnoi shirote uprekami obmenivat'sya - cherez moego Lawyer. Tut takie
pravila - vse hody nuzhno zapisyvat'.
A hvastat'sya krest'yaninom kotoryi obrushil na mir uzhas alkogolisma ya
by ne stal. Greshno.
VM.
Nu vot dokatilsya - obozval Latyshei Latviitsami.
A ved' preduprezhdali menya tovarishi iz organov - "ne dovedet tebya do
dobra zaigrovanie s diavolom mirovogo imperialisma".
Vot i resultat. Skoro nachnu Obamu Putinym obzyvat'. I togda voobshe -
shto v Amerike, shto v Rossii odna doroga, - izvestno kuda.
Razve shto v Grand Duchy podat'sya. Priyutyayt beshoznogo.
VM.
> Nu vot dokatilsya - obozval Latyshei Latviitsami.
> A ved' preduprezhdali menya tovarishi iz organov - "ne dovedet tebya do
> dobra zaigrovanie s diavolom mirovogo imperialisma".
> Vot i resultat. Skoro nachnu Obamu Putinym obzyvat'. I togda voobshe -
> shto v Amerike, shto v Rossii odna doroga, - izvestno kuda.
> Razve shto v Grand Duchy podat'sya. Priyutyayt beshoznogo.
Если Обаму Путиным назовете, он вас обнимет и поцелует.
А вот если опять национальность перепутаете и нечаянно афроамериканца
обамоамериканцем назовете, тогда да, тогда сухари сушите.
Sha, tozhe duraka nashel - na rozhon lezt' suprotiv Putina i Obamy.
Mne kogda zhit' nadoest ya po drugomu razreshu problemu.
No spasibo za sovet, konechno.
Ya by Michelle my telefon nomer podbrosil, no opasayus' - zvonok
razdastsya: Vlad? Yeah...? Who is This- Vyglyani na ulicu - vidish' tank
Abrams kotoryi v tebya celitsya? Eto poslednee chto ty vidish'.
Vsego horoshego, Chicago boy Barak.
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Da, da, dumal ob etom. Pytalsya v Latviiskie presidenty podat'sya - no
sam znaesh' Pribalty takie upryamye i dumaeyut prizemlenno, zlost'
beret. Privyazalis' nafik - Vorovat' budesh? Potom kakaya ta fignya pro
prava cheloveka, pyatoe desyatoe.
Voobshe Pribalty ochen' neblagodarnye - my ih osvobodili, a oni govoryat
"okkupirovali". Ih nashi vragi nauchili (navernoe Voice of America) -
net takogo slova v Russkom yazyke, my tol'ko osvobozhdaem. Chasto
osvobozhdaemye soprotivlyayutsya - no nauka vse ob'yasnila - Stokholm
sindrom. Litva voobshe oborzela - vy govorit bedlam ustroili vy i
platite za bezobrazie. Razognalis'. U matushki Rossii pryamo karmany ot
nalichnyh lopayutsya.
A s Obamoy ya by ne svayzyvalsya - tut est' odin eshe iz Chicago some
Vidas, eti bez nozhika na ulicu ne vyhodyat. Sebe dorozhe svyazyvat'sya.
VM.
Who forced us? Opyat' vse budem na finnov valit'? "esli by negodyai
finny v sorokovom zdalis' Timur i ego komanda v 41-om vzyali by Berlin!"
Ne poluchilos' - ulozhili 11 millionov pod nemeckie pulemety, ne
schitaya 16 mln grazhdanskih kotoryh nemcy konchili a my potom Parad
Pobedy otprazdnovali.
Takya Pobeda - chut' sobstvennoi krov'yu ne zahlebnulis'. Nemcev v svoei
krovi utopili.
U menya est' video what they were doing to our POW. I just think it is
so unhuman I don't post this documentary. Because people will blame it
on Germans not the scumbags out of Germans. There were different
Germans, the Real Humans.
Na zhenshinah kak voditstsy vyehali. Kozly bessovestnye. Moya mama 14
y.o iz shkoly shla na fabriku - stoyat' na yashike potomu shto rost ne
dostaval do stanka, snaryady delala. Sibiryachka. Doch' vraga naroda.
Minus 30 -40 na ulice, minus 10 15 v cehu. Vse dlya fronta, vse dlya
Pobedy. Malchishki ot 16 i starshe is ee classa - lozhilis' rotami na
nemeckie pulemety.
Aha, pobedili, sam znaesh' kto vyzhil s medalkoi- kto za svoyu shkuru
bolel.
Ya uzh pisal ob etom - moei babushki mladshi brat - brosili Sibirskuyu
divisiyu noch'yu vzyat' Mamaev Kurgan.Poshli cherez Volgu. Vzyali - do
rassveta. A on i ne doehal - komu pamayt' komu slava komu temnaya voda.
Ego drug babushke napisal - ego k utru ubili.
Potom nemcy takie zhe podnevol'nye, pognali ih na russkie pulemety,
pochti vse polegli no Kurgan vzyali obratno.
I ya do sih por ne znayu kak vse eto- Pobeda, kak nado smotret' My
pobedili, nam 20 let potrebovalos' ot etoi pobedy priity v sebya.
Eto byla katastrofa. Takaya nasha Istoriya.
VM.
Да, прибалты совсем распустились.
Но и мы не лыком шиты.
Есть и у нас свои средства им жизнь испоганить.
Вот, стоит русский мужичок в магазине а Таллине.
Полчаса пытается что-то объяснить продвщице на ломаном эстонском
языке.
Та не выдержала и сказала - Гавваритте па руссккии. Я панннимаю.
Мужичок возмутился.
Ну уж нет!
Мы ваш русский сорок лет терпели, теперь вы с нашим эстонским
помучайтесь.
Я не финнов имел в виду, а наше любимое руководство, которое ведет нас
к дальнейшим победам капитализма
> U menya est' video what they were doing to our POW. I just think it is
> so unhuman I don't post this documentary. Because people will blame it
> on Germans not the scumbags out of Germans. There were different
> Germans, the Real Humans.
> Na zhenshinah kak voditstsy vyehali. Kozly bessovestnye. Moya mama 14
> y.o iz shkoly shla na fabriku - stoyat' na yashike potomu shto rost ne
> dostaval do stanka, snaryady delala. Sibiryachka. Doch' vraga naroda.
> Minus 30 -40 na ulice, minus 10 15 v cehu. Vse dlya fronta, vse dlya
> Pobedy. Malchishki ot 16 i starshe is ee classa - lozhilis' rotami na
> nemeckie pulemety.
Сейчас уже таких людей нет.
Спасибо, научились.
>
> Aha, pobedili, sam znaesh' kto vyzhil s medalkoi- kto za svoyu shkuru
> bolel.
Я бы не обобщал и не валил всех людей с "медальками" в одну кучу.
> Ya uzh pisal ob etom - moei babushki mladshi brat - brosili Sibirskuyu
> divisiyu noch'yu vzyat' Mamaev Kurgan.Poshli cherez Volgu. Vzyali - do
> rassveta. A on i ne doehal - komu pamayt' komu slava komu temnaya voda.
> Ego drug babushke napisal - ego k utru ubili.
> Potom nemcy takie zhe podnevol'nye, pognali ih na russkie pulemety,
> pochti vse polegli no Kurgan vzyali obratno.
>
> I ya do sih por ne znayu kak vse eto- Pobeda, kak nado smotret' My
> pobedili, nam 20 let potrebovalos' ot etoi pobedy priity v sebya.
>
> Eto byla katastrofa. Takaya nasha Istoriya.
Война не бывает приятной.
A la guerre comme la guerre
Может и нужно было сдать Россию немцам.
Особенно, учитывая кому она сейчас досталась после всей это й пролитой
крови и послевоенного каторжного труда.
>
> VM.
It is quite interesting to observe the way the French treat American
tourists. Americans always complain that the French are "snooty" and
that if you try to speak English to shopkeepers in France, they will
pretend that they don't understand a word.
What I do is always start the conversation by speaking my broken
French to them. When they see that I am making my best effort, they
smile and happily switch to English themselves, and we always part
best friends.