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From: stevej...@yahoo.com
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Subject: "Protocols" alive in the Ukraine
Date: 12 Apr 2005 20:56:31 -0700

Eye on Eurasia: Believing the 'Protocols'

By Paul Goble
UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL

Tartu, Estonia, Apr. 12 (UPI) -- A senior official of the Ukrainian
Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate argues the "Protocols of the
Elders of Zion" -- a notorious anti-Semitic forgery of the late tsarist
period -- accurately predicts the directions in which Europe and
Ukraine are moving.

Vitaliy Kosovskiy, secretary of the Patriarchal Church in Ukraine and a
professor at the Kyiv Spiritual Academy, earlier this month posted on
the Church's Web site an article suggesting "regardless of who wrote
these 'Protocols' -- employees of the tsarist police or 'the Zionist
elders'" -- was a matter of indifference.

What was "important," he said, is that "although written more than 100
years ago, they reveal the contemporary course of history." And taken
together with the Bible and the writings of the Church Fathers, he
continued, they can help the Orthodox faithful in Ukraine understand
what is happening to them and why (orthodox.org.ua/page-1513.html).

Kosovskiy wrote the main indication of the coming of apocalyptic times
is the "presence of world rule," something he suggested is being
promoted by globalization and "the community called the European
Union." And he says one can tell where these trends will take Ukraine
in the future by looking into the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion."

Taking at face value language from that work, this pro-Moscow churchman
argued "'Europe without borders, with a common currency and with the
unification of the human personality" is "the beginning of the end" of
the world foretold in "Protocol No. 3."

Kosovskiy's reliance on this notorious anti-Semitic forgery already is
disturbing many in Ukraine. It should be worrying others, too. Writing
in Kiev's Zerkalo nedeli last month, Pavel Gavrilyuk argued Kosovskiy's
article was appalling on many levels (religare.ru/print15602).

First, Kosovskiy's approach violates all the principles of the Church.
The notion that a forgery like the Protocols should be treated as of
equal value to the Bible or the works of the Church Fathers for
interpreting the world is a dangerous absurdity, Gavrilyuk wrote.

Second, it promotes anti-Semitism within the Patriarchal church and
thus destroys its reputation and its influence. Gavrilyuk added such
anti-Semitic comments were a frequent feature in Patriarchate churches.

He reported he had once heard a priest in church near Moscow deliver a
sermon arguing that: "1.the Jews crucified Christ, 2. atheism -- comes
from the intelligentsia and science, 3. all the moral degradation in
Russia has been brought in from America, 4. Russians are a God-chosen
people, [and] 5. the predictions of the Apocalypse of St. John must be
applied to the contemporary situation ...because the time of the end of
the world is near."

And third, Kosovskiy's words and their appearance on the Web site
suggests the pro-Moscow church is prepared to play the anti-Semitic
card in a last desperate effort to try to maintain its position in
Ukraine and Moscow's influence in that country, a play that Gavrilyuk
argued was based on a complete misreading of where Ukraine and
Ukrainians are now.

Ukrainians want to be part of Europe, Gavrilyuk insisted, precisely
because they have escaped from the dangerous fantasies of the past
including anti-Semitism and because they believe they can build a
better future here and now rather than adopting the fatalistic notion
that they must simply do nothing because the end times are near.

Kosovskiy's language, Gavrilyuk continued, is thus not only morally
offensive but politically counterproductive, too. Indeed, Gavrilyuk
suggested, the very obscurantism Kosovskiy offers will drive Ukrainians
either into other Orthodox churches or out of the church altogether.

But such anti-Semitic and apocalyptic language inevitably must be of
concern to more than just the Ukrainians at whom it is addressed in the
first instance. It must be of concern to people of good will
everywhere. And in addition to denouncing the use of such language,
they need to be asking two fundamental questions:

On the one hand, why has the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow
Patriarchate not disowned Kosovskiy's words but chosen instead to
distribute them widely and with its apparent imprimatur on its Web
site? And on the other, why is Russian President Vladimir Putin so
ready to cooperate with that church and with church officials like
Kosovskiy?

To the extent Gavrilyuk is right, Ukrainians are appalled with the
answers to these questions. The rest of us should be as well.

--
(Paul Goble teaches at the EuroCollege of the University of Tartu in
Estonia.)

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