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Power Mad

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Jun 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/4/99
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Word is that it was to Pakistan that an Australian former intelligence
officer was trying to sell secret US documents, but Pakistan intelligence
informed the US and the Aussie was arrested by the FBI.

For some reason the US has refused to name the country involved. Could it
be that they don't want the world to know about the cosy relationship
between the CIA and Pakistani Intelligence?

By the way - I wonder if the Pakistanis kept copies of the documents ;-)

--
e&oe

Digital Dave

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Jun 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/4/99
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I wouldn't call the intelligence officer Australian. He may of lived and
worked here but he is definitely not Australian. Scum like this should pay
with their life!!
DD.

Power Mad <ne...@ten.com> wrote in message news:37575bd3.0@info-int...

Nusrat Rizvi

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Jun 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/4/99
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"Digital Dave" <Da...@Cycom.com> wrote:

>> e&oe

Why do Pakis think CIA would waste money and other resources
om a dying country like Pakiland.
I for one can not imagine one thing pakiland has that would be
of interest to anyone including CIA.
Nusrat Rizvi


Niraj Agarwalla

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Jun 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/4/99
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Nusrat Rizvi (rizv...@pipeline.com) wrote:

: Why do Pakis think CIA would waste money and other resources


: om a dying country like Pakiland.
: I for one can not imagine one thing pakiland has that would be
: of interest to anyone including CIA.
: Nusrat Rizvi

With the end of the Cold War, the services of the Pakistani
intelligence agencies are no longer needed; but they still dance to
the CIA's tune. After all, old habits die hard. If you need
an example, just look at how Aimal Kansi (sic) was arrested in
Pakistan and brought to the US. This was all done with connivance
of the government of Pakistan and it's intelligence agencies.

--
Niraj Agarwalla -- ni...@shore.net -- http://www.shore.net/~niraj

Azam Khan

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Jun 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/4/99
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Dear Nusrat,

The CIA organization is nothing but an old whore ready to spread it's legs or
offer it's mouth for anyone in the name of national security. They have given it
to Pakistanis in the past and they will do it once again with a smile on their
faces no matter how much it hurts them in their ass. Take care.

Azam.
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Azam Khan's Web Page: http://www.erols.com/sap1

Christine Quinn

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Jun 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/6/99
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In article <7j8b59$av9$1...@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>,
rizv...@pipeline.com says...
>
>
>>DD.

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>>
>>>
>
>Why do Pakis think CIA would waste money and other resources
>om a dying country like Pakiland.
>I for one can not imagine one thing pakiland has that would be
>of interest to anyone including CIA.
>Nusrat Rizvi
>
>It sounds as though you think Pakistan is inhabited by untouchables.
But, there again, you sound fairly untouchable yourself.
>


Satya

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Maharaja Ranjit Singh comes to London
http://www.hinduonline.com/today/stories/13060079.htm

EARLIER this year, over 700,000 people visited an exhibition of the French
impressionist painter Claude Monet in London, a record for an art display in
the United Kingdom. Naturally the wise and the high-brow in the U.K. began
to speculate that the response to the Monet exhibition was a turning point;
the crowds trying to get in showed that the Britishers were sick of sitting
in front of the TV and watching commercials, soaps and sports. They wanted
more of art and culture was the considered view.

This opinion was quickly put to rest. The streets around the country were
emptied a fortnight ago when millions sat at home to turn on the TV to watch
Manchester United play Bayern Munich for the most prestigious prize in
European football, the European Cup Winners Cup. And the stream of visitors
to the museums returned to its unexceptional flow.

But in its own way another ongoing exhibition in London has been attracting
a small but steady stream of visitors. ``The Arts of the Sikh Kingdoms'',
has been put together at the Victoria and Albert Museum to coincide the
300th anniversary of the founding of the Khalsa. Most of the artefacts are
from the V&As hoard but the organisers have brought pieces from private and
public collections in India, Pakistan, France and the United States while
financial support has come from the Sikh community in the U.K.

``We are overwhelmed by the response of the Sikhs,'' says Ricky, software
engineer from Delhi who has migrated to the U.K. and does volunteer work on
weekends to help the Sikh visitors navigate the special exhibition.
On two consecutive Saturdays last month, close to half the visitors look to
me like they are either U.K.-born or resident Sikhs, curious about this
display of their heritage. A couple drag their reluctant 10-year-old around
the halls, trying to excite him about 19th Century photographs of the Golden
Temple, but he is more interested in one of the cannons that Ranjit Singh's
engineers successfully copied from a British model.

Elsewhere, a Sikh youth shows off to his English girlfriend the stupendous
golden throne of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, while two Punjabi women stylishly
dressed in western attire gasp at the display of the Timur ``ruby'' that was
first in the possession of Shah Jahan, and an arm band for the Kohinoor
diamond that Ranjit Singh used to wear. (Both pieces were ``presented'' by
the East India Company to Queen Victoria in the 1850s and are on public
display here for the first time since 1851, courtesy the House of Windsor.)
But the picture that stays in my mind is of an elderly woman, traditionally
clothed and apparently on her own, moving from painting to artefact to
photograph, with difficulty slowly reading aloud the descriptions of each
piece. She is unmindful of her voice carrying in the hushed halls because
this is probably the only way she can learn about the exhibits, for the
panels are all in English none even in mutli-ethnic London are in Gurmukhi.

The exhibits overwhelm you. There are pages from the Akbarnama, there is an
exquisite 15th Century sword with gold inlaid work on the steel blade that
belonged to Jahangir (which a Col. Widen was ``allowed to keep'' after the
uprising of 1857, and which on his death his wife ``gifted'' to Queen
Victoria), 17th Century paintings by Pahari artists and finely woven
Pashmina shawls, including one with a detailed map of Srinagar woven
(painted?) across it. The magnificence of these objects overwhelms the
visitor so much that the question comes only later: ``Do these pieces belong
in an exhibition of the Sikh kingdoms?'' About the only thing that qualifies
most of them for this particular display is that while they were made under
the Mughals or the Dogras, they were made in the Punjab at a time when the
Sikh panth was spreading in influence no matter that much of the exhibition
is not art of the Sikh kingdoms. (And why is a huge portrait of Lord
Dalhousie dominating one room in this exhibition except for the fact that it
was on Dalhousies' instigation that two wars were waged against the Sikhs,
leading up to the annexation of Punjab by the East India Company?) Though
the exhibition is supposed to be about the Sikh heritage, it seems like the
V&A has used the opportunity more to display a small fraction of its
fabulous India collection. The art of the Sikh kingdoms is present but it is
crowded out by other art.

One set of photographs does tell a story about the decline of the Sikh
kingdom, the rise of the British and about the museum itself. A panel of
late 19th Century photographs traces the life of Dalip Singh, youngest son
of Ranjit Singh. After the annexation of Punjab, the boy is first hidden
from Sikhs likely to rally around him. He then goes to England where he
becomes one of those colonial exhibits in the court of Queen Victoria. The
Queen sketches him, Prince Albert uses him as a subject for his hobby,
photography, and Dalip Singh converts to Christianity. He acquires an estate
where he organises shooting parties for his British friends. At one point he
is considered ``the fourth best shot'' in England. But the fires return.
Resentful about the loss of his throne, Dalip Singh later re-converts to
Sikhism and meets Irish and Russian revolutionaries as he plans an imaginary
conquest, before dying in Paris in 1893. And where all these photographs
stored? Ironically in South Kensington Museum which was renamed in 1899
after Dalip Singh's former friends/rulers Victoria and Albert.

Inevitably, an Indian begins to feel queasy why are all these astonishing
paintings and artefacts here and not in Amritsar or Delhi? If neither the
Elgin marbles nor the Rosetta stone have much of a chance of going back from
the U.K to their homes in Greece and Egypt, respectively, there is even less
likelihood of Ranjit Singh's golden throne returning to Amritsar (a
difficult question is its rightful home more Lahore, Ranjit Singh's
capital?) And as I have often been told in a losing argument, all these
beautiful pieces are better displayed in the V&A or even stored in its huge
warehouses. At least in London they will be looked after, at home they will
be destroyed by neglect and poor care.

C. RAMMANOHAR REDDY


Nusrat Rizvi

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Jun 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/6/99
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qu...@omen.net.au (Christine Quinn) wrote:

>>
>>Why do Pakis think CIA would waste money and other resources
>>om a dying country like Pakiland.
>>I for one can not imagine one thing pakiland has that would be
>>of interest to anyone including CIA.
>>Nusrat Rizvi
>>
>>It sounds as though you think Pakistan is inhabited by untouchables.
>But, there again, you sound fairly untouchable yourself.

My dear Christine, to get to the truth of the matter, all that is
required
is by you to come around and touch me anywhere you want.
I will alert Mrs that this is being done to make a point and has no
other connotations, lets hope she is understanding.
Of course if you are a Paindoo Hijra as I suspect you are, all
bets are off.
Nusrat Rizvi


Nusrat Rizvi

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Jun 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/6/99
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Azam Khan <sa...@erols.com> wrote:

>> Why do Pakis think CIA would waste money and other resources
>> om a dying country like Pakiland.
>> I for one can not imagine one thing pakiland has that would be
>> of interest to anyone including CIA.
>> Nusrat Rizvi

>Dear Nusrat,


>The CIA organization is nothing but an old whore ready to spread it's legs or
>offer it's mouth for anyone in the name of national security. They have given it
>to Pakistanis in the past and they will do it once again with a smile on their
>faces no matter how much it hurts them in their ass. Take care.
>Azam.

This is the first I am hearing of Pakistani Manhood Vs CIA femininity,
have you any proof of this or is this wishful thinking.
Nusrat Rizvi


Christine Quinn

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Jun 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/7/99
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In article <7je32i$f0o$1...@nntp8.atl.mindspring.net>,
rizv...@pipeline.com says...

>
>qu...@omen.net.au (Christine Quinn) wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Why do Pakis think CIA would waste money and other resources
>>>om a dying country like Pakiland.
>>>I for one can not imagine one thing pakiland has that would be
>>>of interest to anyone including CIA.
>>>Nusrat Rizvi
>>>
>>>It sounds as though you think Pakistan is inhabited by untouchables.
>>But, there again, you sound fairly untouchable yourself.
>
>My dear Christine, to get to the truth of the matter, all that is
>required
>is by you to come around and touch me anywhere you want.
>I will alert Mrs that this is being done to make a point and has no
>other connotations, lets hope she is understanding.
>Of course if you are a Paindoo Hijra as I suspect you are, all
>bets are off.
>Nusrat Rizvi
>
What is a Paindoo Hijra?
Christine


Khan

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Jun 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/7/99
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Pind means a village and paindoo lives in a village however in the
context of SCP its someone who kicked Rizvis ass regardless of his/her
origin. As for hijra ask Rizvi for his picture.

Azam Khan

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Jun 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/7/99
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Nusrat,

The proof is the Pakistani Nuke program, the Pakistani Missile Program, the Afghan Aid
which the beurocrats and the government embezzled with no shame....do you want more?
Take care old man.

Azam.

--
Azam Khan's Web Page: http://www.erols.com/sap1

Momin

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Jun 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/7/99
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Khan wrote:

> On 7 Jun 1999 04:03:58 GMT, qu...@omen.net.au (Christine Quinn) wrote:
>
> >In article <7je32i$f0o$1...@nntp8.atl.mindspring.net>,
> >rizv...@pipeline.com says...
> >>
> >>qu...@omen.net.au (Christine Quinn) wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>Why do Pakis think CIA would waste money and other resources
> >>>>om a dying country like Pakiland.
> >>>>I for one can not imagine one thing pakiland has that would be
> >>>>of interest to anyone including CIA.
> >>>>Nusrat Rizvi
> >>>>
> >>>>It sounds as though you think Pakistan is inhabited by untouchables.
> >>>But, there again, you sound fairly untouchable yourself.
> >>
> >>My dear Christine, to get to the truth of the matter, all that is
> >>required
> >>is by you to come around and touch me anywhere you want.
> >>I will alert Mrs that this is being done to make a point and has no
> >>other connotations, lets hope she is understanding.
> >>Of course if you are a Paindoo Hijra as I suspect you are, all
> >>bets are off.
> >>Nusrat Rizvi
> >>
> >What is a Paindoo Hijra?
> >Christine
>
> Pind means a village and paindoo lives in a village

Mr. Rizvi..Could you please answer this one...

> As for hijra ask Rizvi, for picture.

How did you manage to get the picture
of this eunuch, Mr Rizvi??


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