The link between asiaphilia and pedophilia
SAGE
I am very disturbed to hear about the marriage between the 62 year-old
Woody Allen and his 27 yr-old Asian fetish Soon-yi. You will recall that
Allen started molesting Soon-yi when she was still a minor. The affair
became public when Mia Farrow, then Allen's girlfriend, found nude
pictures of Soon-yi in Allen's apartment. The attraction of Woody Allen
to Soon-yi Previn has the characteristics of both asiaphilia and
pedophilia-- a huge age disparity, an obsession with child pornography,
and a penchant for sexual domination over a physically smaller female.
The Allen-Soon-Yi affair is not atypical of AF/WM relationships. White
males who exhibit a "preference" for Asian females have also been known
for pedophilia. A few months ago I've had the displeasure of trading
flames with Larry Pendarvis, a white Asiaphile who ran an Asian
mail-order bride service. While worshiping the feminine qualities of
Asian women, Pendarvis was also vehemently hostile toward independent
white women, dubbing them "ugly fag- bearing dykes." Unsurprisingly,
Pendarvis was recently incarcerated for having child pornography on this
work computer.
The overlapping characteristics of asiaphilia and pedophilia suggests
that at least a subset of AF/WM relationships are an expression of WM
pedophilia (and AF self-hatred). As illustrated by the posts of
Pendarvis and other asiaphiles, Asian women are often desired for their
childlike qualities, i.e., small stature, small vaginas, submissiveness,
etc. Since sexual relationship with a minor is neither legal nor
socially acceptable, it would seem rational for the pedophile to pursue
the next best thing-- Asian women. In certain respects, asiaphilia is a
socially sanctioned sublimation of pedophilia.
- SAGE
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Dan Bennett
On Fri, 26 Dec 1997 15:51:05 -0600, SAGE <zero_to...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>The Allen-Soon-Yi affair is not atypical of AF/WM relationships.
You know Sage (or is it Race Ranger, the Aryan Poster Boy?), the stuff
you post is characteristic of homosexual pedophiles. They use
multiple personas to try and elude detection, just as you do. They're
also filled with hatred toward normal people who they believe are
persecuting them, just the same as you. They're filled with revulsion
and hostility toward heterosexual couples, in the same way that you
are. As a matter of fact, I think a pretty good prima facie case
could be made that you are, indeed, a homosexual pedophile. You show
all the symptoms.
> White males who exhibit a "preference" for Asian females have also been known
>for pedophilia.
This is typical of those attempting to excuse their own deviant
behaviour. "Oh yeah, well all those normal looking people are
deviates, too, they're just hiding it." Just because you're attracted
to little boys does NOT mean that anyone else suffers from pedophilia.
Indeed, quite the contrary is true, and most people are sexually
attracted to adults of the opposite gender. The sooner you face up to
the reality of your own dysfunction, the sooner you'll make progress
toward dealing with it.
Let's look at it squarely, shall we? No weaseling this time. Your
fixation on pedophilia seems clearly indicative of your fear of those
tendencies in yourself. Your desire to be both white and Asian, as
evidenced by your alternating between being "Sage", the angry Asian
man, and "Race Ranger", the angry white man, is somewhat more
difficult to pin down. You appear to dislike both groups, but the
primary target of your animousity is always Asian women. Just
offhand, I think that suggests that you probably blame an Asian woman
or women for your homosexuality. That would appear to make it
unlikely that you're Asian (it's a shame that we have to speculate
about such things, but your illness makes it impossible for you to
tell us the truth) since an Asian man would be less likely to isolate
Asian women as a group, and would be more prone to think of them as
simply "women."
My bet is that you're of mixed race yourself, with a white father and
an Asian mother. That would explain the alternate personas (you can
be white when you like and Asian when you like), and would also
explain why you view Asian women (representing your mother) as the
source of all your woes. Dysfuntional family? Quite probably.
Father not present or simply not a primary influence (another possible
contributing factor toward your homosexual orientation), mother seen
as "different" and perhaps "not as good as" other children's mothers
because she's Asian, and maybe she wasn't all that good a mother to
boot. Hostility toward father (if for no other reason than because he
chose bad Asian mother) becomes hostility toward all white men,
hostility toward mother (if only for being different) becomes
hostility toward all Asian women. General anger about not being
sexually normal gives that much more impetus to your hatred. Not only
do you see "those people" as bad, but you blame them for having made
you as you are.
It's OK for you to lash out at me; I expect it. But you need to deal
with this stuff in a realistic manner. Retreating into fantasy
identities on the internet will only make it worse, because you'll be
increasingly frustrated by the fact that you can't carry your
fantasies over into the real world.
There's help out there for you, but the first move has to be yours.
The light will go on, but you have to throw the switch.
plip
SAGE wrote:
>
> I am very disturbed to hear about the marriage between the 62 year-old
> Woody Allen and his 27 yr-old Asian fetish Soon-yi. You will recall that
> Allen started molesting Soon-yi when she was still a minor. The affair
> became public when Mia Farrow, then Allen's girlfriend, found nude
> pictures of Soon-yi in Allen's apartment. The attraction of Woody Allen
> to Soon-yi Previn has the characteristics of both asiaphilia and
> pedophilia-- a huge age disparity, an obsession with child pornography,
> and a penchant for sexual domination over a physically smaller female.
>
> males who exhibit a "preference" for Asian females have also been known
> flames with Larry Pendarvis, a white Asiaphile who ran an Asian
> mail-order bride service. While worshiping the feminine qualities of
> Asian women, Pendarvis was also vehemently hostile toward independent
> white women, dubbing them "ugly fag- bearing dykes." Unsurprisingly,
> Pendarvis was recently incarcerated for having child pornography on this
> work computer.
>
> The overlapping characteristics of asiaphilia and pedophilia suggests
> that at least a subset of AF/WM relationships are an expression of WM
> pedophilia (and AF self-hatred). As illustrated by the posts of
> Pendarvis and other asiaphiles, Asian women are often desired for their
> childlike qualities, i.e., small stature, small vaginas, submissiveness,
> etc. Since sexual relationship with a minor is neither legal nor
> socially acceptable, it would seem rational for the pedophile to pursue
> the next best thing-- Asian women. In certain respects, asiaphilia is a
> socially sanctioned sublimation of pedophilia.
>
> - SAGE
>
yeah, you're right.. you ARE very disturbed.
larry
On Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:09:02 GMT, nos...@all.com (Dan Bennett) wrote:
>
>You know Sage (or is it Race Ranger, the Aryan Poster Boy?), the stuff
>you post is characteristic of homosexual pedophiles. They use
>multiple personas to try and elude detection, just as you do. They're
>also filled with hatred toward normal people who they believe are
>persecuting them, just the same as you. They're filled with revulsion
>and hostility toward heterosexual couples, in the same way that you
>are. As a matter of fact, I think a pretty good prima facie case
>could be made that you are, indeed, a homosexual pedophile. You show
>all the symptoms.
Why don't you quit lying dan. Race Ranger is a white boy who is one of
your kind and he hangs in those white power newsgroups. Race Ranger is
anti-race mixing because he has a white girl already, while you're
pro-race mixing because you had to marry an Asian girl. You know, you
whites are all the same. Btw, Sage is a Asian guy.
Larry
Timothy Joseph Harvey
Interesting post, and I believe you've struck on something of truth. I've
seen and heard one of the attractions of Western asiaphiles is that "Asian
women do not age in appearacnce as rapidly as Western women."
A couple of years ago, in the giftshop of a high end business hotel I came
across a publication called "Shaved Orientails" which featured young women
in their late teens and early twenties made to look prepubescent. The
letters from fans of the magazine were clear in the appeal this
publication held. I wondered about the popularity of this magazine and
others like it. Pieces in the puzzle suddenly came together.
Perhaps you are right about an element of asianphiles - that in many of
their fantasies, the "Asian woman" streotype allows them to indulge in
pedophile preferences. Every time I hear a Kano go on about his "wife's
beautiful body" and how "sweet she is" and not much more (to show that he
knows her as a person he has something in common with), I wonder about
the apparent basis for this "love".
I think your observation strikes deep. Like anything that touches the
nerve of truth, better buckle your seat belt. I expect this thread to go
ballistic as Kanos flood in to close ranks.
BTW, this topic reminds me of the classic book "Sex and Racism in
American" which had the courage to look at racism from a sexual/gender
perspective. It had the affect of unmasking some of the basis of
Black/White racism.
Good post. A keeper.
Thanks,
Tim
John Maxon
Timothy Joseph Harvey <r...@user1.teleport.com> writes: >
Dear Tim,
> Interesting post, and I believe you've struck on something of truth.
Tim, just what truth would that be? Now, I'll admit that it's just about
as bigotted a bunch of bs as I've ever seen, (not that I have your vast
experience in these things) but I'll bet there are plenty of other bigots
all around the web that are congratulating each other on their mutual
versions of racism. Your opinions are your opinions, and are not
interchangeable with 'truth' no matter how much you'd like it to be so.
> I've seen and heard one of the attractions of Western asiaphiles is
>that "Asian
> women do not age in appearacnce as rapidly as Western women."
Where is it that you hear all these things, Tim? Now, I remember that in
one recent post you talked about some of your information coming from
something like sex.oriental.fetish, and now you talk about this filthy
rag as a further source of information. Interesting.
>
> A couple of years ago, in the giftshop of a high end business hotel I came
> across a publication called "Shaved Orientails" which featured young women
> in their late teens and early twenties made to look prepubescent. The
> letters from fans of the magazine were clear in the appeal this
> publication held. I wondered about the popularity of this magazine and
> others like it. Pieces in the puzzle suddenly came together.
Which pieces, Tim? Unlike you, I'm not really sure that the majority of
the people that read that trash are caucasians. Even if they are I'll bet
most of the people that read it would loosen a few of your teeth for your
filthy suggestions. Doubtless you'll try to say this is because they have
something to hide, because this is what you imply, but I still wonder
just why it is that you look at these magazines, and newsgroups. Is it to
keep an eye on all of the freaks? Strange.Personally, I think you need a
few more pieces of the puzzle. If you had them you might see that things
aren't as simple as you think.
Now you relate to us about how men that marry Oriental women talk about
their "wife's beautiful body" and how "sweet she is" I'll admit that
you're focused, Tim, but it seems like you remember exactly what you want
to remember, and not much else. You can't seem to realize that an
Oriental woman and a non-Oriental man (or any other racial or culturally
different couple) can have a completely legitimate, and happy marriage.
Most racists can't understand these things because they don't want to
understand. Do you work for INS?
> knows her as a person he has something in common with), I wonder about
> the apparent basis for this "love".
I know you do, Tim. Makes you crazy, doesn't it?
>
> I think your observation strikes deep. Like anything that touches the
> nerve of truth,
Your truth, Tim, and the truth of the original bigot (sorry.I meant
poster), not mine or anybody I know personally.
I expect this thread to go
> ballistic as Kanos flood in to close ranks.
The net-warrior's mind at work. Let's win the war, and afterwards we'll
think about how it affected people's lives. You're a very negative guy,
Tim. I have no doubt that you can out-argue, outlast, or otherwise and
out-finesse my humble attempt at bringing some sensibility to this
discussion, but I don't care. Winning a debate won't make you right. One
of these days you'll realize that.
>
> BTW, this topic reminds me of the classic book "Sex and Racism in
> American" which had the courage to look at racism from a sexual/gender
> perspective. It had the affect of unmasking some of the basis of
> Black/White racism.
>
> Good post. A keeper.
I can understand that a guy like you would think so since it's clear that
your goal in life is to cause problems for other people. Any little
stinkseed you can throw is good as long as it bothers someone. This is
what gives you your purpose in life, so enjoy. Have a good time. Still,
maybe the next time you're visiting sex.oriental.fetish or reading some
filthy magazine you'll remember that it's the things you do that make you
who you are. It has nothing to do with winning (or losing) an argument.
Your Friend,
John
Tom Goodman
>I am very disturbed to hear about the marriage between the 62 year-old
>Woody Allen and his 27 yr-old Asian fetish Soon-yi. You will recall that
>Allen started molesting Soon-yi when she was still a minor. The affair
I think it's woody likes sex with her, and she like his money. Hope I
am wrong.
Tom Goodman
Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and
the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and
believe the gospel.
Frank Roderus
Y'know, John, the really sad part is that neither Tim nor Sage will
understand a word of what you've posted. Pity.
fr
larry
On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 07:14:16 -0800, Frank Roderus
<whiz...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>Y'know, John, the really sad part is that neither Tim nor Sage will
>understand a word of what you've posted. Pity.
>
>fr
TEE HEEE, Two Asianphiles(johnny and frankly) masturbating with each.
Oh boys, it's very pittiful when you're white(male) and you can't
get your own white women to date you,eh?....pittiful and pathetic.
larry
John Maxon
larr...@hotmail.com (larry) writes: > On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 07:14:16 -0800, Frank Roderus
Okay, I read your two posts, Larry. Now what?
John
Timothy Joseph Harvey
John, you're a "true American". . . the same cut as the American general
during the Vietnam war who said "I won't be confused by the facts".
Demographics are clear about who participates in things like Usenet. In a
phrase, "the best, brightest and priviliaged". Like it our not, you
cannot segregate out participants in alt.sex groups because it suites you.
They are indeed part of their culture, whether you like it or not.
BTW, I find many of these groups both enlightening and depressing. They
provide people with forums to reveal what they think and believe. As I've
said, they are but pieces, among many, that draw a picture of our culture.
The same is true of publications like "Hustler" and "Shaved Orientails".
These publications have significant subscriptions and, in the case of the
hotel concession, a market and acceptance in circles I would not expect (I
was surprised to see it in an upper end, business hotel).
Things like this paint every mix-cultural marriage/relationship.
I believe that all marriages should be beyond such criticism and
speculation; that they should be supported and regarded on their
individual merits. Certainly, as you point out, the vast majority of
such mixed-cultural marriages are successful if not "good" and abuse
free.
However, I cringe when ever I run in to your sort of "defense", which
amounts to denial of features of our culture and disrespectful slander
of people who do not share you myopic view. . . very typical of "Kanos".
You contribute nothing to the discussion, raise the emotional level where
courage to face and deal with the facts with an open mind is called for.
Your unsubstanciated ranting only serves to reinforce certain views of
Americans and their motivations for being interested in "Asian women."
: Which pieces, Tim? Unlike you, I'm not really sure that the majority of
: the people that read that trash are caucasians. Even if they are I'll bet
: most of the people that read it would loosen a few of your teeth for your
: filthy suggestions.
Thanks for expressing yourself so freely by informing how "caucasians"
would react. Now let's see what the magazine would say:
Daniel F. of Wooster, MA likes the magazine because he wants a virgin and
all the models look like virgins. In response, magazine reports that
"quite a few of them (models) fuck like champs" and then goes on to
explain that "It's very simple, people with mustaches and beards always
look older than the clean shaven ones" and goes on to wish Daniel good
luck with his "cherry quest."
"Virgin" and "younger". . . as in "prepubesent?"
: Oriental woman and a non-Oriental man (or any other racial or culturally
: different couple) can have a completely legitimate, and happy marriage.
Absolutely, and this needs to be said, especially since mixed-cultural
marriages get painted by one brush. But your whining, inarticulate
"defense" does nothing to change that. Unlike you, I think the best way
to ensure the legitimacy that these marriages deserve is by confronting
and dealing with the offending aspects of our culture, not by denying
them. Let's not forget the children of such marriages. If you have a
daughter, how do you feel about her being desired as a "cherry girl" just
because of her Asian heritage? As a parent myself, I find it
irresponsible to ignore this and allow it to become my children's reality.
BTW, you seem to think that such thoughts are held only by "freaks", but I
find too much evidence from a variety of sources that such attitudes are
widely held. . . to the point of being part of acceptable cultural
stereotypes. Certainly, such things will rarely be said after church, but
in a hundred private and semi-private settings, the same things come up
over and over again.
But that's okay. Bury your head and go on with your life. Leave these
things to your children to deal with.
Tim
--
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John Maxon
Dear Tim,
You're a funny guy, Tim.
> John, you're a "true American". . . the same cut as the American general
> during the Vietnam war who said "I won't be confused by the facts".
Okay, who was that general, and in exactly what context was the statement
made? It means nothing for you to just say that. And, yes. I am a true
American, but not because of your bizzarre conclusion that I am somehow
like that general. I was born and raised here. I like being an American,
and I like most of the Americans I know, too. They're very decent, moral,
and kind people for the most part. So, what are you? Are you a "false
American?" Maybe you're an "untrue American."
>
> Demographics are clear about who participates in things like Usenet. In a
> phrase, "the best, brightest and priviliaged". Like it our not, you
> cannot segregate out participants in alt.sex groups because it suites you.
> They are indeed part of their culture, whether you like it or not.
Here you go again. Where do you get these conclusions from anyway?
> was surprised to see it in an upper end, business hotel).
I'm not impressed by which store you buy your pornography from, but in
next paragraph you actually said something worthwhile. There's hope for
you, Tim. Still, it doesn't exactly fit in with your praise of the
original post, now does it? You remember that, I'm sure. It had to do
with the poster's assertion that non-asian men that are attracted to
asian women are somehow similar to pedophiles.
> Things like this paint every mix-cultural marriage/relationship.
> I believe that all marriages should be beyond such criticism and
> speculation; that they should be supported and regarded on their
> individual merits. Certainly, as you point out, the vast majority of
> such mixed-cultural marriages are successful if not "good" and abuse
> free.
> However, I cringe when ever I run in to your sort of "defense", which
> amounts to denial of features of our culture and disrespectful slander
> of people who do not share you myopic view. . . very typical of "Kanos".
No, I don't deny that this country has problems. Another strange
conclusion. Are you CERTAIN you were reading MY reply? Maybe you were
distracted or something.
> Your unsubstanciated ranting only serves to reinforce certain views of
> Americans and their motivations for being interested in "Asian women."
As does yours, Tim, as does yours. Luckily for me, though, that I have
you to set me straight about everything.
>Thanks for expressing yourself so freely by informing how "caucasians"
> would react.
Well, they probably would react that way. My opinion is that any other
racial group would also react that way if you called them pedophiles.
>Now let's see what the magazine would say:
You STILL have that filthy rag?
> marriages get painted by one brush. But your whining, inarticulate
> "defense" does nothing to change that.
See what I mean? I have you to set me straight about netiquette, as well
as what it means to be an American. What's next? Table manners?
> If you have a
> daughter, how do you feel about her being desired as a "cherry girl" just
> because of her Asian heritage?
I wouldn't like it. I also wouldn't like it if she was black, white,
native-American, or anything else. She wouldn't even have to be my
daughter,either. She could be anybody's daughter (or son, for that
matter), including yours.
>As a parent myself, I find it
Now I learned something about you, Tim. I thought you were much younger.
Like 15.
Okay. I'm finished with this now. Yours is the last word, Tim. Please do
your level best to say something intelligent this time, and try hard to
use facts. Okay? Once again, I would like to remind you that your
opinions aren't facts, nor is fantasy. I know that makes it harder, but
it'll be better in the end if you do it that way. Trust me.
Your Friend,
John
kage
SAGE wrote:
>
> I am very disturbed to hear about the marriage between the 62 year-old
> Woody Allen and his 27 yr-old Asian fetish Soon-yi. You will recall that
> Allen started molesting Soon-yi when she was still a minor. The affair
> pictures of Soon-yi in Allen's apartment. The attraction of Woody Allen
> to Soon-yi Previn has the characteristics of both asiaphilia and
> pedophilia-- a huge age disparity, an obsession with child pornography,
> and a penchant for sexual domination over a physically smaller female.
>
> The Allen-Soon-Yi affair is not atypical of AF/WM relationships. White
> males who exhibit a "preference" for Asian females have also been known
> for pedophilia. A few months ago I've had the displeasure of trading
> flames with Larry Pendarvis, a white Asiaphile who ran an Asian
> mail-order bride service. While worshiping the feminine qualities of
> Asian women, Pendarvis was also vehemently hostile toward independent
> white women, dubbing them "ugly fag- bearing dykes." Unsurprisingly,
> Pendarvis was recently incarcerated for having child pornography on this
> work computer.
>
> The overlapping characteristics of asiaphilia and pedophilia suggests
> that at least a subset of AF/WM relationships are an expression of WM
> pedophilia (and AF self-hatred). As illustrated by the posts of
> Pendarvis and other asiaphiles, Asian women are often desired for their
> childlike qualities, i.e., small stature, small vaginas, submissiveness,
> etc. Since sexual relationship with a minor is neither legal nor
> socially acceptable, it would seem rational for the pedophile to pursue
> the next best thing-- Asian women. In certain respects, asiaphilia is a
> socially sanctioned sublimation of pedophilia.
>
> - SAGE
>
Do YOU reject Caucasian women?
Are you only interested in Asian Females?
Is pedophile and domination what motivates you?
Or do you see the motivations you listed above as only
applying
to white males, and not anyone else?
Eagerly awaiting your response;
>
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Wow!! Nothing like stereotyping the majority of the male gender (most
people on this planet are asian, and therefore all asian men who like
women of their same race must be pedophiles). Now I do admit that many
pedophiles do like asian women (some due to your reasons, and some
because of the unfortunate amount of children sold into "sex-slavery")
But simply because someone admires a culture and appreciates the beauty
characteristics of a race doesn't turn them into a pedophile!
If you want to remove a cancer try using a scalpel instead of a hand
grenade.
Bosco Moriones
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Hmmm. Sage sure knows his onions!
But don't you think yours is.....well......just a.....you know....maybe
a little bit of a minor generalisation?
Might just as well suggest that 'philes' are naturally drawn to the
'phile-ippines'.
Trouble is, you're tarring us all with the same brush and I find that
offensive.
I find it as offensive as, when I lived in Manila, I could go virtually
anywhere, but security invariably stopped my wife (a Filipina of course)
and questioned her, or searched her bag.
I find it as offensive as slobbish 'sex-tour' puting basura making lewd
comments as we pass.
Despite all that, such generalisation as propounded by this poster is
clearly off beam.
Dan Bennett
larr...@hotmail.com (larry) allowed as how:
>Why don't you quit lying dan. Race Ranger is a white boy who is one of
>your kind and he hangs in those white power newsgroups. Race Ranger is
>anti-race mixing because he has a white girl already, while you're
>pro-race mixing because you had to marry an Asian girl. You know, you
>whites are all the same. Btw, Sage is a Asian guy.
Oh, of course "Larry". (I see you didn't give much thought to the new
persona). Hotmail is awfully handy, isn't it? <Laugh>
Dan Bennett, Unreconstructed Southron
DIXIE RISING, Tuesdays at half-past-noon, WNAH 1360 AM in Nashville
Saturdays at 20:30 Central (Sunday 02:30 UTC) WWCR, 5.070 MHz
http://members.tripod.com/~secesh/index.html
Dan Bennett
larr...@hotmail.com (larry) allowed as how:
>TEE HEEE, Two Asianphiles(johnny and frankly) masturbating with each.
>Oh boys, it's very pittiful when you're white(male) and you can't
>get your own white women to date you,eh?....pittiful and pathetic.
So tell, how close to home did I hit? 80%? 90? I'm betting at least
90. I may be off about the homosexual part (although I don't think
so), but I think I nailed your butt full-scale on the rest of it.
C'mon, play the man for once in your pathetic life and 'fess up. As I
said before, the sooner you're honest with yourself, the sooner you'll
be able to come to terms with who and what it is that you are.
larry
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997 01:25:11 GMT, d...@cavalry.com (Dan Bennett) wrote:
>Oh, of course "Larry". (I see you didn't give much thought to the new
>persona). Hotmail is awfully handy, isn't it? <Laugh>
>
hotmail is a free email service and you too can get an email account
from them.
Larry
larry
On Sun, 28 Dec 1997 01:30:31 GMT, d...@cavalry.com (Dan Bennett) wrote:
>
>So tell, how close to home did I hit? 80%? 90? I'm betting at least
>90. I may be off about the homosexual part (although I don't think
>so), but I think I nailed your butt full-scale on the rest of it.
>
>C'mon, play the man for once in your pathetic life and 'fess up. As I
>said before, the sooner you're honest with yourself, the sooner you'll
>be able to come to terms with who and what it is that you are.
>
>Dan Bennett, Unreconstructed Southron
>DIXIE RISING, Tuesdays at half-past-noon, WNAH 1360 AM in Nashville
>Saturdays at 20:30 Central (Sunday 02:30 UTC) WWCR, 5.070 MHz
>http://members.tripod.com/~secesh/index.html
What the fuck are you talking about?. Goto hell you got God damn
whitey!. I ain't Sage. Why dont you check our NNTP's.
Larry
DAVID G KESSEL
I have lived in Thailand for 3 years and would see and hear about many Thai
men in their fifties bragging about having sex with 12 year olds... One taxi
driver said: "Thailand is free, I can have a ten year old if I want... she
won't get pregnant so no need to use a condom..." Brothels all over Bangkok
are filled with 12-15 year olds... The Thais find that to be the best age
for girls to be abused...
And most of those brothels are for Thai people and not for foreigners...
That information is all over the Bangkok Post
Asian pedophilia...
Timothy Joseph Harvey
Your post took this discusion to another level John where the only
appropriate response I can make is. . . YAWN.
The General's name was Westmoreland, and the occassion was when he was
given detailed reports of the ineffectiveness of the intensive bombing of
the supply routes from N. Vietnam.
I gave you a few facts, and you addressed them precisely as I expected a
Kano would. . . denial and insult.
Yeah, Americans are "moral"; it must be all them "dirty foreigners" who
are publishing and buying the magazines I mentioned and you find "filthy"
as well as participating in the range of sex groups. Supply
substanciation and I'll stand corrected. Until then, evidence is on my
side that you defend your filthy culture with crys of "it ain't so",
"you're a jerk", "someone else is doing it" and "the only real American
are those who are just like me."
The brilliance of your "arguments" and the power of your "faith" (not
facts, since you've offered none) make clear that I'm dealing with another
General Westmoreland. . . and this issue will end the same way the war did
for him.
Michael Schneider
In article <883172662....@dejanews.com>, SAGE
<zero_to...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am very disturbed to hear about the marriage between the 62 year-old
> Woody Allen and his 27 yr-old Asian fetish Soon-yi. You will recall that
> Allen started molesting Soon-yi when she was still a minor.
She seems to have, er, enjoyed it for going on ten years now.....
> The affair
> became public when Mia Farrow, then Allen's girlfriend, found nude
> pictures of Soon-yi in Allen's apartment. The attraction of Woody Allen
> to Soon-yi Previn has the characteristics of both asiaphilia and
> pedophilia-- a huge age disparity, an obsession with child pornography,
> and a penchant for sexual domination over a physically smaller female.
Most pedophilia is homosexual pedophilia, and pedophilia in any event
is normally defined as the desire for sex with *prepubescent* individuals.
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In article <34b6d0b7...@news.idirect.com>,
comme...@headquarter.com (Tom Goodman) wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Dec 1997 15:51:05 -0600, SAGE <zero_to...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I am very disturbed to hear about the marriage between the 62 year-old
> >Woody Allen and his 27 yr-old Asian fetish Soon-yi. You will recall that
> >Allen started molesting Soon-yi when she was still a minor. The affair
>
> I think it's woody likes sex with her, and she like his money. Hope I
> am wrong.
Why? It may not be a Romeo & Juliet romance, but if both are getting
what they want, who's to complain?
Michael Schneider
> On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 07:14:16 -0800, Frank Roderus
> <whiz...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Y'know, John, the really sad part is that neither Tim nor Sage will
> >understand a word of what you've posted. Pity.
>
> TEE HEEE, Two Asianphiles(johnny and frankly) masturbating with each.
> Oh boys, it's very pittiful when you're white(male) and you can't
> get your own white women to date you,eh?....pittiful and pathetic.
Come'n get 'em.
Michael Schneider
In article <683dm0$l11$1...@news1.teleport.com>, Timothy Joseph Harvey
<r...@user2.teleport.com> wrote:
> John, you're a "true American". . . the same cut as the American general
> during the Vietnam war who said "I won't be confused by the facts".
Bzzt!
Tim is hereby docked twenty creativity rating points for using the same
intro line in two different posts on the same day.
Michael Schneider
It's also a notorious bastion of email spam merchants.
Michael Schneider
> What the fuck are you talking about?. Goto hell you got God damn
> whitey!. I ain't Sage. Why dont you check our NNTP's.
My, aren't we the vulgar *racist*.
Frank Roderus
Timothy Joseph Harvey wrote:
>
> Yeah, Americans are "moral"; it must be all them "dirty foreigners" who
> are publishing and buying the magazines I mentioned and you find "filthy"
> as well as participating in the range of sex groups. Supply
> substanciation and I'll stand corrected. Until then...(blah, blah, blah)
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Harvey rightWrite, Incorporated r...@teleport.COM (503) 977-3627
You frequently cite your "research" and of late have been blathering
about that favorite magazine of yours "Shaved Orientails", which
apparently proves something to your satisfaction about the "Kano agenda"
and its concommitant pedophilia. Apparently no one previously informed
you, Tim, that the reason real men often prefer for their women to shave
has nothing to do with a desire to bed children, rather it is to prevent
the nuisance of getting hair stuck between their teeth.
But I'm not sure how you can fit that into your "Kano agenda". Let us all
know when you have it worked out.
Frank Roderus
Michael Schneider wrote:
>
> In article <6831ar$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, larr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 07:14:16 -0800, Frank Roderus
> > <whiz...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Y'know, John, the really sad part is that neither Tim nor Sage will
> > >understand a word of what you've posted. Pity.
> >
> > TEE HEEE, Two Asianphiles(johnny and frankly) masturbating with each.
> > Oh boys, it's very pittiful when you're white(male) and you can't
> > get your own white women to date you,eh?....pittiful and pathetic.
>
> Come'n get 'em.
>
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>
Now Maxon and I are said to be Asianphiles, eh? Well, maybe it fits. I
mean, it is perfectly true that I have liked most Filipinas I have met.
Although not all. And I've liked most Filipinos I've met. But not all. By
the same token, though, I've also liked most, but not all, Americans of
my aquaintance. And Canadians, British, Finns, Norwegians, Greeks,
Italians, Thais, Indians, AmerIndians...hmm. A trend seems to be
developing. On the other hand, I've only known one Syrian. Couldn't stand
the SOB. However I do concede that 1 is not a statistically valid
sampling and so will not assume that all Syrians are detestable. Same
with the only Malaysian I've known. Didn't like her either. Never met any
Tamils or Afghans or Sherpas so will withhold judgment about them. In any
event I suppose it is valid enough to say that I am an Asianphile if that
means that I like most folks of Asian descent. Or I could be called a
personphile, I suppose. Or...no, wait. I don't much care for where this
line of reasoning leads since I've also liked most (but not all) children
I've met, and that would lead to declaring me a pedophile, wouldn't it?
(Which Tim undoubtedly will do anyway, all Americans being latent peds in
his eyes.) No, I think we better go back to square one with the
name-calling. Sorry, Larry. For a minute there I almost believed you had
something right for a change. Try again, eh?
larry
>In article <684bvm$5...@mtinsc05.worldnet.att.net>, larr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> What the fuck are you talking about?. Goto hell you got God damn
>> whitey!. I ain't Sage. Why dont you check our NNTP's.
>
>
> My, aren't we the vulgar *racist*.
As an Asian I am honest about how I feel toward others. Unlike you
whites who are hypocrites. You smile and dine with your enemy before
you kill them,rape their women, and take their land. How many treaties
with the indians has the white man violated so far?100s. You're the
real racist!whitey!.
Larry
midnight.avenger
Why do you people have a problem with white men who prefer Asian women?
I am Asian and very much an "asiaphile". I also love blondes so you
guys with a lot of time on your hands, go ahead start a thread about men
of color who are into "whiteyphilia".
Happy New Year everybody!
Rick
(also guility of latinaphilia)
Woo...@hotmail.com
On Fri, 26 Dec 1997 15:51:05 -0600, SAGE <zero_to...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am very disturbed to hear about the marriage between the 62 year-old
> Woody Allen and his 27 yr-old Asian fetish Soon-yi. You will recall that
> Allen started molesting Soon-yi when she was still a minor. The affair
> pictures of Soon-yi in Allen's apartment. The attraction of Woody Allen
> to Soon-yi Previn has the characteristics of both asiaphilia and
> pedophilia-- a huge age disparity, an obsession with child pornography,
> and a penchant for sexual domination over a physically smaller female.
>
> males who exhibit a "preference" for Asian females have also been known
> for pedophilia. A few months ago I've had the displeasure of trading
> flames with Larry Pendarvis, a white Asiaphile who ran an Asian
> mail-order bride service. While worshiping the feminine qualities of
> Asian women, Pendarvis was also vehemently hostile toward independent
> white women, dubbing them "ugly fag- bearing dykes." Unsurprisingly,
> Pendarvis was recently incarcerated for having child pornography on this
> work computer.
>
> The overlapping characteristics of asiaphilia and pedophilia suggests
> that at least a subset of AF/WM relationships are an expression of WM
> pedophilia (and AF self-hatred). As illustrated by the posts of
> Pendarvis and other asiaphiles, Asian women are often desired for their
> childlike qualities, i.e., small stature, small vaginas, submissiveness,
> etc. Since sexual relationship with a minor is neither legal nor
> socially acceptable, it would seem rational for the pedophile to pursue
> the next best thing-- Asian women. In certain respects, asiaphilia is a
> socially sanctioned sublimation of pedophilia.
>
> - SAGE
>
go too far to make those points. Here you just stated: "it would seem rational for the pedophile to pursue
the next best thing-- Asian women." My wife is Asian. She's 100% woman--not a child.
Child molesters are sick. People who cross racial lines to date or marry have enough
shit to put up with (occasionally) without attempts to lump ALL of them into such a disgusting
category. You have to treat people as individuals. That all you expect; that's all others expect.
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Typical argument Frank. I bring up something that is alive and well in
this society, and all you can say is "it ain't so". And now you resort
to a little clever, locker room humor that should rally the "boys" to your
side. Now if we were to hold a locker inspection just what would we find
there Frank?
The "Kano agenda" strives to protect things that are outside the purpose
of this group with denial, personal attack and deflection. Are you
reserving the right to plunge into the sewer when ever you like, but you
just don't want anyone calling attention to you when you stink? What is
YOUR fascination with these topics Frank? What do you find so interesting
about the interests and problems of wife shoppers and sex tourists? Do
you believe that only Kanos can "save" the Philippines with their
uninformed advice, criticisms and taste for imported wives and sex
vacations?
I have my views about these things, especially in this group. What are
yours Frank? Or are you just a voyeaur who feels threatened that your
"show" might "go away"? If "Filipino culture" uninteresting to you? Do
you regard it as little more than "bait" to attract and work up the
interest of Kanos?
Once again, I ask why you insist on having this agenda be such a prominent
part of this group. You have yet to answer.
Tim
In soc.culture.filipino Frank Roderus <whiz...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
: But I'm not sure how you can fit that into your "Kano agenda". Let us all
: know when you have it worked out.
--
Frank Roderus
Timothy Joseph Harvey wrote:
>
> Typical argument Frank. I bring up something that is alive and well in
> this society, and all you can say is "it ain't so". And now you resort
> to a little clever, locker room humor that should rally the "boys" to your
> side. Now if we were to hold a locker inspection just what would we find
> there Frank?
a prime reference.
> The "Kano agenda" strives to protect things that are outside the purpose
> of this group with denial, personal attack and deflection. Are you
> reserving the right to plunge into the sewer when ever you like, but you
> just don't want anyone calling attention to you when you stink? What is
> YOUR fascination with these topics Frank? What do you find so interesting
> about the interests and problems of wife shoppers and sex tourists? Do
> you believe that only Kanos can "save" the Philippines with their
> uninformed advice, criticisms and taste for imported wives and sex
> vacations?
>
Actually, Tim, I don't think the Philippines need saving. My impression
has always been that they have their own thing going. And are entitled
to.
> I have my views about these things, especially in this group.
You certainly got that part right. You most definitely do have your own
views. Warped. But clearly your own.
What are
> yours Frank? Or are you just a voyeaur who feels threatened that your
> "show" might "go away"? If "Filipino culture" uninteresting to you? Do
> you regard it as little more than "bait" to attract and work up the
> interest of Kanos?
>
> Once again, I ask why you insist on having this agenda be such a prominent
> part of this group. You have yet to answer.
> I have yet to answer, old hoss, because I have yet to identify an
intelligent question posed under your imprint.
Timothy Joseph Harvey
Terrific, a post that does not out-of-hand dismiss what SAGE was raising.
I didn't read his post as stereotyping, only raising a possibility that
has only rarely discussed. Maybe instead of pulling the wagons around and
defending our male egos from this "attack", we might get somewhere by
facing it and seeing where it leads. Perhaps a hand grenade is the more
appropriate tool, if the "cancer" is move pervasive than you assume.
In any event, you seem to be one of the few here with an open mind and who
is not personally threatened by what SAGE raises. I applaud you for that.
Tim
In soc.culture.filipino sco...@netquarters.net wrote:
: Wow!! Nothing like stereotyping the majority of the male gender (most
Timothy Joseph Harvey
My wife and I have experienced the same things your report, but my take is
a little different. I suspect that if generations of Americans before me
hadn't engaged in the behavior that gave rise to the assumptions about
Americans, we would not be experiencing these insults today.
Yeah, I do not care to be "tarred with the same brush" either. That is
why I appreciated SAGE's post. The way out is not whining about "I don't
like it", but to come face to face with our cultural beliefs and behaviors
and question and challenge them. I know it is more "American" to bury our
heads and "get pissed off" only when something affects us directly. . .
like when the toilet backflows.
Rather than get defensive, perhaps it would be more productive to consider
what SAGE raises. Then, if you encounter such things here or in your
personal life, you might have a better response than to "clam up" and
endorse this behavior by your silence. Instead of blaming the
Filipinos for the actions of your countrymen, perhaps you ought to
develop the courage to deal with the cause and source instead of
whining about the symptoms.
Cheers,
Tim
In soc.culture.filipino Bosco Moriones <to...@ozramp.net.au> wrote:
: Trouble is, you're tarring us all with the same brush and I find that
: offensive.
: I find it as offensive as, when I lived in Manila, I could go virtually
: anywhere, but security invariably stopped my wife (a Filipina of course)
: and questioned her, or searched her bag.
: I find it as offensive as slobbish 'sex-tour' puting basura making lewd
: comments as we pass.
Timothy Joseph Harvey
Please give you source on this (mis)statement, or stand unmasked as
another ignorant, uninformed bigot who would rather substitute his
opinion for fact.
Tim
In soc.culture.filipino Michael Schneider <mi...@paidshillvisi.com> wrote:
: Most pedophilia is homosexual pedophilia,
Jim Houchens
Timothy Joseph Harvey <r...@user2.teleport.com> writes:
>I gave you a few facts, and you addressed them precisely as I expected a
>Kano would. . . denial and insult.
>Yeah, Americans are "moral"; it must be all them "dirty foreigners" who
>are publishing and buying the magazines I mentioned and you find "filthy"
>as well as participating in the range of sex groups. Supply
>substanciation and I'll stand corrected. Until then, evidence is on my
>side that you defend your filthy culture with crys of "it ain't so",
>"you're a jerk", "someone else is doing it" and "the only real American
>are those who are just like me."
Tim,
Is this the type of posts that you thing will bring back those
Filipinos who have chosen to leave the group? This guy did nothing
more than say that most Americans are moral... he didn't say that
_all_ Americans were, but just most of the ones he has contact with.
You're not the only one posting garbage, there are plenty of others
doing the same. But they are only dropping in, or are being attracted
by cross-posts. You, as a long term SCF poster, do a disservice by
keeping the thread alive... Which, if you look at the posts, you do.
Most posts seem to be in response to your attacks on American culture,
and naturally, people are going to react to it... you know that you
are flame-baiting.
The regulars here know your hatred for american culture... is it
necessary to turn every conversation into a new attack? Which in turn
will attract more flames? Is it fair to the others here who don't want
to read that?
I'm not sure what newsreader you are using or the speed of your
conenction... I use nn on a unix box, and noise doesn't affect me
much as I don't have to wait for headers to be retrieved. By my guess
is that a lot of people are using winsock or mac readers over lower
speed conenctions, and have to download every header... I've tried it
and it's a pain... and when you have to sift though so much junk to
find some useful nuggets, it's not worth it.
Just like "wanna filipina" posts are not appropriate here, I feel your
continued attacks on American culture become inappropriate when they
fail to discuss anything new and when they dominate discussion to the
extent which they now do.
Again, my continued posts to you (and not to others) is because you
are a regular here, and you asked the question about why so many other
regulars have left... and I have some (slight) glimmer of hope I might
get through to you (which I don't have towards the other posters who continue these threads).
-- Jim
Michael Schneider
> On Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:02:34 -0600, mi...@paidshillvisi.com (Michael
> Schneider) wrote:
>
> >In article <684bvm$5...@mtinsc05.worldnet.att.net>, larr...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> >
> >> What the fuck are you talking about?. Goto hell you got God damn
> >> whitey!. I ain't Sage. Why dont you check our NNTP's.
> >
> >
> > My, aren't we the vulgar *racist*.
>
>
> As an Asian I am honest about how I feel toward others. Unlike you
> whites who are hypocrites. You smile and dine with your enemy before
> you kill them, rape their women, and take their land. How many treaties
>
> with the indians has the white man violated so far?100s.
Yeah, and if your asian boy butcher Gengis Khan hadn't brought smallpox
and bubonic plague to Europe during his orgy of slaughter, those Indians
you're gushing over in a fake display of familial compassion wouldn't have
dropped like flies with a 95% death rate in the hundred years following
the first Spaniard's stepping off a boat and coughing left. And the
northern plains Indians? Hah! They killed each other at thrice the rate as
the US Cavalry. Oh, and who do you think "we" learned the fine art of
scalping *from*, mmm? About the only bunch on the continent I feel sorry
for are the Cherokee, who were quite civilized (I'm reminded of the line
from the old chief in 'The Outlaw Josey Wales': "We were civilized, and
therefore easy to sneak up on"); they were the only ones with a written
language and any sort of social order substantially evolved from bullying
and mysticism.
> You're the real racist!
Racist: one obsessively preoccupied with race.
Michael Schneider
In article <686rgl$qaa$6...@news1.teleport.com>, Timothy Joseph Harvey
<r...@user1.teleport.com> wrote:
> Please give you source on this.....
>
> In soc.culture.filipino Michael Schneider <mi...@paidshillvisi.com> wrote:
>
> : Most pedophilia is homosexual pedophilia,
(1) Exposure to internet porn, such as "erotica" newsgroups, (2)
pedophiles caught (at least here in the US) are overwhelmingly charged
with molesting boys.
> (mis)statement, or stand unmasked as
> another ignorant, uninformed bigot who would rather substitute his
> opinion for fact.
>
> Tim
Take you attitude and blow it out your ass.
Gil G. Silberman
We're still being cross-posted to soc.culture.filipino?
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:18:26 -0600, mi...@paidshillvisi.com (Michael
Schneider) wrote:
> Yeah, and if your asian boy butcher Gengis Khan . . .
What do you mean by "your?" I think Genghis Khan was his own man if
anyone ever was.
>And the
>northern plains Indians? Hah! They killed each other at thrice the rate as
>the US Cavalry.
You just mentioned a 95% mortality rate among North American Indians
after the Spanish arrival. Contrary to your assertion, most of the
death was due to starvation and diseases other than small pox. I
don't know where you get your statistics from. The US cavalry was at
times rather bloodthirsty, but not nearly as bad as state militias,
the Spanish who had come before, or the local settlers. In general,
the role of the US army, especially in later years, was to protect the
Indians AND the settlers from each other so that there could be
orderly expansion. Some Indian tribes were violent, others not.
Either way, the sins of others do not give the US any excuse for the
slaughters it has engaged in.
>Oh, and who do you think "we" learned the fine art of
>scalping *from*, mmm?
So far as I know, the French started it.
>About the only bunch on the continent I feel sorry
>for are the Cherokee, who were quite civilized (I'm reminded of the line
>from the old chief in 'The Outlaw Josey Wales': "We were civilized, and
>therefore easy to sneak up on"); they were the only ones with a written
>language and any sort of social order substantially evolved from bullying
>and mysticism.
Why does a people have to have a written language for you to feel
sorry for them? As for Bullying the Hopis and others had stable
agrarian societies with extremely complex social and political
structures, positions, offices. They were and are, in a Western way
of viewing things, quite mystical though (the Hopis themselves would
not necessarily call themselves mystical as opposed to practical
because they don't separate the spiritual from the everyday). But
then, so are we -- the majority of Americans believes in the
supernatural, and Christianity, our majority religion, is full of
mysticism.
Anyway, there were a handful of tribes in the Eastern U.S. with
western-style institutions. It was Sequoia who invented the Cherokee
alphabet. That, and the Cherokee constitution, were both reactions to
the encounter with the U.S. rather than somethign they arrived at
independently. Cherokees around the turn of the 18th century adopted
a 3-part government complete with a court system, in part because they
genuinely admired the US political system and in part because they
wisely (but ultimately futilely) decided that they stood a better
chance of withstanding the occupation if they learned and mastered the
tools of the settlers. The political machinations that lead to the
expulsion and genocide of the Cherokees by the southern states (with
later complicity by the US government) are quite complex. Some of
this is on my website at http://www.hooked.net/~bigbug/tiger.htm.
>> You're the real racist!
> Racist: one obsessively preoccupied with race.
That's not the definition most people would use.
But then -- judging by the all the conspiracy theories on your web
page -- you don't seem to be one for going with the common wisdom
about of things.
Michael Schneider
> On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:18:26 -0600, mi...@paidshillvisi.com (Michael
> Schneider) wrote:
>
> > Yeah, and if your asian boy butcher Gengis Khan . . .
>
> What do you mean by "your?" I think Genghis Khan was his own man if
> anyone ever was.
*Precisely*. (The sarcasm worked its magic. Good.)
Now do you know exactly why I think people who bitch "you white people
are all alike" are so fucking full of *shit*?
Timothy Joseph Harvey
Well, your true stripe is clear. . . just another public masturbator
posing as an "intelligent" poster.
Let me undo the misconceptions your drivel tried to advance.
According to the U.S. Justice Department figures, 73% of all pedophilia
convinctions involve heterosexual males and female children. Of the
pedophilia convinctions involving male children, over 80% of these were
committed by heterosexual males.
Let me leave you and others of your ilk with another thought. Pedophila
is not a "victimless crime", and like rape, it is not a "sexual crime."
It is a crime against children by predatory individuals who indulge in it
because of the power and control it provides them which they cannot get in
normal adult relationships (regardless of their sexual orientation).
BTW, you seem rather certain that pedophilia is usually gay men molesting
boys. Are you spekaing from personal experience?
Tim
In soc.culture.filipino Michael Schneider <mi...@paidshillvisi.com> wrote:
: (1) Exposure to internet porn, such as "erotica" newsgroups, (2)
: pedophiles caught (at least here in the US) are overwhelmingly charged
: with molesting boys.
--
Timothy Joseph Harvey
You're right Jim. I plan to hoist a thread with a proposed "standard
response" to drop in, inappropriate posts. With any luck, I can sort out
my "pitch" that this group should follow its charter versus my opinions
about some of the inflamatory, inappropriate posts/threads that find their
way here. Then maybe I can spend more time following worthwhile
posts/topics here. That's my New Year's resolution anyway.
Tim
<SNIP>
: -- Jim
Gil G. Silberman
>> What do you mean by "your?" I think Genghis Khan was his own man if
>> anyone ever was.
> *Precisely*. (The sarcasm worked its magic. Good.)
Oops. Well, yes. . . but I think my line was more clever than yours.
There's a time to fight fire with fire. But I don't think racism is
one of them. It's hard to convince someone he's being a racist
through sarcasm or parody. That only confuses the racist, and offends
everyone else. Patience is the best defense. . . and, if things get
out of hand, strength.
Michael Schneider
In article <689s85$p1m$3...@news1.teleport.com>, Timothy Joseph Harvey
<r...@user2.teleport.com> wrote:
> Well, your true stripe is clear. . . just another public masturbator
> posing as an "intelligent" poster.
>
> Let me undo the misconceptions your drivel tried to advance.
>
> According to the U.S. Justice Department figures, 73% of all pedophilia
> convinctions....
Convictions....don't mean a damn thing, statistics-wise.
(Not that I'd trust USJD figures anyway.)
> involve heterosexual males and female children. Of the
> pedophilia convinctions involving male children, over 80% of these were
> committed by heterosexual males.
If they're fucking little boys in the anus, they aren't "heterosexual".
> Let me leave you and others of your ilk with another thought. Pedophila
> is not a "victimless crime", and like rape, it is not a "sexual crime."
> It is a crime against children by predatory individuals who indulge in it
> because of the power and control it provides them which they cannot get in
> normal adult relationships (regardless of their sexual orientation).
>
> BTW, you seem rather certain that pedophilia is usually gay men molesting
> boys.
The Catholic church in the US is, ah, a wee bit more decadent than it
is over there. You should see the scandalous stories the papers print....
> Are you spekaing from personal experience?
>
> Tim
Nope; I've never been an altar boy.
Dan Bennett
On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 08:26:34 GMT, big...@hooked.net (Gil G. Silberman)
wrote:
>There's a time to fight fire with fire. But I don't think racism is
>one of them. It's hard to convince someone he's being a racist
>through sarcasm or parody.
I'm thinking of starting an anti-Semitic thread. This Jewish guy I
used to work with still owes me $6 from 13 years ago, and I hold all
Jews responsible.
(OK, so I did eat most of the big can of cookies he brought in, but it
wasn't $6 worth, no way. And he got off for Yom Kippur and I didn't.)
Michael Schneider
> On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:32:15 -0600, mi...@paidshillvisi.com (Michael
> Schneider) wrote:
>
> >> What do you mean by "your?" I think Genghis Khan was his own man if
> >> anyone ever was.
>
> > *Precisely*. (The sarcasm worked its magic. Good.)
>
> Oops. Well, yes. . . but I think my line was more clever than yours.
>
> There's a time to fight fire with fire. But I don't think racism is
> one of them.
Intregal to sarcasm is that you are above what you appear to be to
those of limited intelligence (but which is obvious to those with more of
it).
> It's hard to convince someone he's being a racist
> through sarcasm or parody.
I'm more interested in revealing the hypocrisy.
> That only confuses the racist, and offends
> everyone else. Patience is the best defense. . . and, if things get
> out of hand, strength.
I've been watching patience not work for decades.
Charles.
>>Woodyee wrote.
>Hey Sage! I always enjoy your posts. You often make good points--but you sometimes
>go too far to make those points. Here you just stated: "it would seem rational for the pedophile to pursue
> the next best thing-- Asian women." My wife is Asian. She's 100% woman--not a child.
>Child molesters are sick. People who cross racial lines to date or marry have enough
>shit to put up with (occasionally) without attempts to lump ALL of them into such a disgusting
>category. You have to treat people as individuals. That all you expect; that's all others expect.
Right on Woodyee!!
Pedophilia is the desire to be intimate with children. Linking Asian/European,
Hispanic/White or any other marriages to this scourge is stretching the
imagination and highly illogical! The basic fact is that we all, regardless of
our ethnic background like something different, some prefer their partners to be
fat, thin, big breasted, small breasted, red hair, blond hair, big feet, small
feet and so on.
Preference for shorter, dark skinned Asian ladies is but an example of
preference. Sure there are the kinky ones, however the majority of us do take a
rational and conventional approach to love, partnership and sex.
Attempting to associate asiaphilia and pedophilia is perhaps an interesting
exercise, however we must remember that the desire for women from other races
(other than Asian) has been documented during ancient Greek, Roman and other
civilisations...Long long before the Asian/Euro. marriage phenomenon.
Unfortunately evidence of child sexual abuse was evident during those times
also. Homeless European children were considered worthless and a burden to the
community and were fair game to all would be sexual and physical abusers. Such
sexual activity is mentioned in the bible, obviously it was practiced then. Even
the Knights of the Crusade had their 'boys' even if they were given a more
respectable name.
Most of the mixed marriages in this country involve Filipinas to older European
men, the reasons for this are varied. However to suggest that the majority of
the guys marry an asian lady because they will satisfy the desire to be intimate
with children is of course absurd.
Charles.
no-t...@just.passing.by
> Pedophilia is the desire to be intimate with children. Linking Asian/European,
All good parents are intimate with their young children.
To be pedophiles, they have to do something really
perverted, such as spank.
Marshall
Tim, I think you are mentally ill. You need professional medical help for
your obsession about sex.
You remind me of mentally ill, probably homeless people who try to stop
pedestrians and enlighten them about some pending doom. The
difference is that it is possible to avoid those people. The only way to
avoid you is to quit following this NG.
Get some help. Maybe this NG will be more informative and enjoyable.
Marshall
Timothy Joseph Harvey wrote in message <68mppr$1nk$1...@news1.teleport.com>...
>Jim,
>:snipToEnd.
Jim Houchens
Timothy Joseph Harvey <r...@user1.teleport.com> writes:
>Interesting post, and I believe you've struck on something of truth. I've
>seen and heard one of the attractions of Western asiaphiles is that "Asian
>women do not age in appearacnce as rapidly as Western women."
[... snip ...]
>Good post. A keeper.
>Thanks,
>Tim
How ironic... the original poster is someone who looks down upon your
own marriage, and probably lumps you in the same category as all other
whites in WM/AF relationships, and you congratulate him. Hmmm.
-- Jim
Timothy Joseph Harvey
Jim,
I don't have to throw the baby out the bath water. If someone makes a
post of some insight or a new way of looking at things that seems to make
sense at some level, I'll express my appreciation. . . regardless of what
they think of me.
I also have a different view of what might be considered "Asian rage" by
Kanos here. You call it racism, but I see it, at best an attempt to
understand a body of experience and a perspective that you and I don't
share. Experiences, BTW, that are not baseless fantasies. I'm inclined
to listen to this perspective, especially when the people who call it out
are somewhat articulate about it.
Again, I found SAGE's post to show real insight on an element in
understanding some, not necessarily all, Western infatuation with
"Oriental women." He may or may not have intended his post to set off
flames. If that was the case, he failed with me because I came away with
another open door. You can shut and nail it close for yourself, if you
choose, but I'll step inside and consider what I see there. I appreciate
him furnishing the key.
Tim
In soc.culture.filipino Jim Houchens <ho...@world.std.com> wrote:
: Timothy Joseph Harvey <r...@user1.teleport.com> writes:
: How ironic... the original poster is someone who looks down upon your
: own marriage, and probably lumps you in the same category as all other
: whites in WM/AF relationships, and you congratulate him. Hmmm.
--
Tchiowa
Frank Roderus wrote:
>
> Timothy Joseph Harvey wrote:
> > I have my views about these things, especially in this group.
> You certainly got that part right. You most definitely do have your own
> views. Warped. But clearly your own.
Somebody (AC maybe?) made a comment to me once about having different
views than me. It's true that people view life through the filters of
their own experiences and life.
For myself, as an example, I have an Asian wife. She doesn't shave her
crotch nor is she small breasted, hairless, or any of the other standard
images that Timothy is trying to promote with his Asiaphilia=pedophilia
stance (yes, I know, he didn't start this thread, but it fits in nicely
with his other statements and he certainly is promoting this thread). My
views on why I prefer an Asian wife to an American wife have nothing to
do with this. They have to do with "old-fashioned" views about marriage,
family, love, etc. The American feminist view that a career is more
important than a marriage (how many people in the US do you know that
have gotten a divorce because the man got a promotion and transfer and
the wife wasn't willing to sacrifice her personal career and chose a
divorce instead?), that husbands are important, that children should
have two parents, that sex is an important part of marriage (as opposed
to Andrea Dworkin's "all sex is rape"), etc. are offensive to me and the
Asian cultural views on these types of subjects are much more to my
liking.
Now I understand that some feminists think my way of thinking is
archaic. So be it. I'll debate the topics with anyone at their leisure.
But the point is that my "Asiaphilia" has nothing to do with the myth
that Asian women look like little girls (believe me, no one could look
at my wife and confuse her with a little girl). Further, when I see
someone who also has an interest in Asian women I assume that their
feelings are similar to mine. That's part of what I mean when I say that
people view events through the filter of their personal experiences.
Now, let's look at Mr. Harvey. He assumes that anyone who wants an Asian
wife is a pedophile (repressed or otherwise). Mr. Harvey also has an
Asian wife. Is Mr. Harvey viewing Asiaphilia through the filter of his
own experience (and desires)?
Woo...@hotmail.com
In article <34ac8cb1...@news.powerup.com.au>,
do...@powerup.com.au (Charles.) wrote:
>
>
> >>Woodyee wrote.
>
> >Hey Sage! I always enjoy your posts. You often make good points--but you
sometimes
> >go too far to make those points. Here you just stated: "it would seem
rational for the pedophile to pursue
> > the next best thing-- Asian women." My wife is Asian. She's 100%
woman--not a child.
> >Child molesters are sick. People who cross racial lines to date or marry have
enough
> >shit to put up with (occasionally) without attempts to lump ALL of them into
such a disgusting
> >category. You have to treat people as individuals. That all you expect;
that's all others expect.
>
> Right on Woodyee!!
>
Asian/European,
intimate
> with children is of course absurd.
>
> Charles.
Well put.
You know, racists such as the KKK claim that a white man having relations
with a black woman is engaging in 'bestiality.' They claim that black
women are some-how sub-human and their physical characteristics are
'animalistic.' Of course it's racist garbage. In a like way assholes who
banter around the term 'Asiaphile' are demeaning Asian women by equating
them with children. I think Asian women can decide for themselves--thanks
a lot--who they do, or do not, want to date and marry. So can Jewish men,
black men--you, me, your brother, everyone.
There is nothing inherently *perverse* about interracial relationships
(as long as they are based on mutual respect, etc--same as with
INTRA-cultural relationships, by the way.) The sickness exists in the
perverse mind of the racist.
By equating inter-rational relationships with REAL perversions such as
beastiality or pedophilism, racists are doing exactly what Herr Goebels
did when promoting Hitler's master race theories: presenting a false
argument in such a way that people were afraid to speak up and say 'save
your racist b.s.'
I don't care if a black man dates and white woman.... an Asian woman
dates a white guy.... a black woman dates an Asian women--or any
combination, as long as they're happy, you can be sure of one thing--only
RACISTS will try to make an issue out of it!!!!
Bosco Moriones
What a busy morning!
So much interesting stuff posted.
This one sums up my view too, after 14 years of marriage to a Filipina.
From the outset it was a bit difficult for me to satisfy my
'Harveyesque' pedophilic desires with a woman who had four children!
Ah! Maybe it was the children I was really after!
I don't particularly want to enter into a slanging match with this
'person', but I think he should be aware of how insulting so many of his
pronouncements are, as well as being hurtful to many.
Like him, I have encountered numerous examples of bad scenes involving
westerner/Filipina marriages/relationships. Let's face it, any
inter-cultural, interracial melding is full of difficulties. Most can be
overcome with patience and understanding, while you just have to live
with others.
I can't even claim that such relationships are more likely to endure.
But it is up to each and every one of us to make up his, or her mind.
Frankly, in view of the difficulties which have to be overcome, I'd
never advise anyone to marry a Filipina. But when you're in love (old
fashioned as that might seem) you are able to persevere. And if it's
true love (again, so old fashioned!) it's worth it all the way!
Woo...@hotmail.com
Terms like "Asiaphile" or "nigger-lover" or "Whiggie" or "Oreo" are
all part of the lexicon of small-minded, jealous, bitter racists.
READ ON...
Racists such as the KKK claim that a white man having relations
that black women are some-how sub-human and their physical
characteristics are 'animalistic.' Of course it's racist
garbage. In a like way assholes who banter around the term 'Asiaphile' are demeaning Asian women by equating
them with children. I think Asian women can decide for themselves--thanks
a lot--who they do, or do not, want to date and marry. So can Jewish men,
black men--you, me, your brother, everyone.
There is nothing inherently *perverse* about interracial relationships
(as long as they are based on mutual respect, etc--same as with
INTRA-cultural relationships, by the way.) The sickness exists in the
perverse mind of the racist.
By equating inter-rational relationships with REAL perversions such as
beastiality or pedophilism, racists are doing exactly what Herr Goebels
did when promoting Hitler's master race theories: presenting a false
argument in such a way that people were afraid to speak up and say 'save
your racist b.s.'
I don't care if a black man dates and white woman.... an Asian woman
dates a white guy.... a black woman dates an Asian women--or any
combination, as long as they're happy, you can be sure of one thing--only
RACISTS will try to make an issue out of it!!!!
Woo...@hotmail.com
Woo...@hotmail.com
Terms like "Asiaphile" or "nigger-lover" or "Whiggie" or "Oreo" are
all part of the lexicon of small-minded, jealous, bitter racists.
READ ON...
Racists such as the KKK claim that a white man having relations
with a black woman is engaging in 'bestiality.' They claim
that black women are some-how sub-human and their physical
characteristics are 'animalistic.' Of course it's racist
garbage. In a like way assholes who banter around the term 'Asiaphile' are demeaning Asian women by equating
them with children. I think Asian women can decide for themselves--thanks
a lot--who they do, or do not, want to date and marry. So can Jewish men,
black men--you, me, your brother, everyone.
There is nothing inherently *perverse* about interracial relationships
(as long as they are based on mutual respect, etc--same as with
INTRA-cultural relationships, by the way.) The sickness exists in the
perverse mind of the racist.
By equating inter-rational relationships with REAL perversions such as
beastiality or pedophilism, racists are doing exactly what Herr Goebels
did when promoting Hitler's master race theories: presenting a false
argument in such a way that people were afraid to speak up and say 'save
your racist b.s.'
I don't care if a black man dates and white woman.... an Asian woman
dates a white guy.... a black woman dates an Asian women--or any
combination, as long as they're happy, you can be sure of one thing--only
RACISTS will try to make an issue out of it!!!!
> the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and
> believe the gospel.
SAGE
In article <34AF52...@HoTMaiL.com>,
Tchiowa <tchi...@HoTMaiL.com> wrote:
>
> Now I understand that some feminists think my way of thinking is
> archaic. So be it. I'll debate the topics with anyone at their leisure.
> But the point is that my "Asiaphilia" has nothing to do with the myth
> that Asian women look like little girls (believe me, no one could look
> at my wife and confuse her with a little girl). Further, when I see
> someone who also has an interest in Asian women I assume that their
> feelings are similar to mine. That's part of what I mean when I say that
> people view events through the filter of their personal experiences.
It's interesting that a WM's admiration for Asian women is often
accompanied by an attack on assertive white women. Perhaps you are
insecure with your manhood and feel threatened by the prospect of an
egalitarian relationship with an equal partner who has a mind of her own.
The need to dominate a weaker sexual partner is a charactistic of both
asiaphilia and pedophilia. Mr. Harvey's willingness to examine the
possibility of pedophilic elements in AF/WM couples demonstrates that his
relationship is free from them. WMs in WM/AF relationships who are averse
to this topic are more likely to harbor, consciously and subconsciously,
pedophilic tendencies with which they do not want to come to terms.
Please do not regard this message as a flame. I invite you to explore
the psychological dynamics of your own relationship so that you could
seek professional help if necessary.
- SAGE
antonqui
In article <883982560...@dejanews.com>,
<zero_to...@hotmail.com> SAGE wrote:
>It's interesting that a WM's admiration for Asian women is often
>accompanied by an attack on assertive white women.
If you examine relationships that withstood the test of time, you will
find that the other half is, or, at least, acts weaker than the other.
Much like the following equations: Strong + Strong = Ramble in the
Jungle Strong + Weak = Harmony, or, Thrilla in Manila
>Perhaps you are insecure with your manhood and feel threatened
>by the prospect of an egalitarian relationship with an equal partner
>who has a mind of her own.
Look at the result of such egalitarian relationships -- "DIVORCE".
A situation where no one wants to give in.
>The need to dominate a weaker sexual partner is a charactistic of
>both asiaphilia...
>- SAGE
Not necessarily. The dominating portion usually only happens on the
first years of the union. The rest is retribution.
Tchiowa
SAGE wrote:
>
> In article <34AF52...@HoTMaiL.com>,
> Tchiowa <tchi...@HoTMaiL.com> wrote:
> >
> > Now I understand that some feminists think my way of thinking is
> > archaic. So be it. I'll debate the topics with anyone at their leisure.
> > But the point is that my "Asiaphilia" has nothing to do with the myth
> > that Asian women look like little girls (believe me, no one could look
> > at my wife and confuse her with a little girl). Further, when I see
> > someone who also has an interest in Asian women I assume that their
> > feelings are similar to mine. That's part of what I mean when I say that
> > people view events through the filter of their personal experiences.
>
> insecure with your manhood and feel threatened by the prospect of an
> egalitarian relationship with an equal partner who has a mind of her own.
> possibility of pedophilic elements in AF/WM couples demonstrates that his
> relationship is free from them. WMs in WM/AF relationships who are averse
> to this topic are more likely to harbor, consciously and subconsciously,
> pedophilic tendencies with which they do not want to come to terms.
> Please do not regard this message as a flame. I invite you to explore
> the psychological dynamics of your own relationship so that you could
There's a ton of difference between wanting to dominate a woman or
wanting a non-assertive woman and wanting a partner who thinks that the
mutual relationship is more important than inidividual accomplishments.
And if you think my wife is not assertive I dare you to tell her that to
her face (unarmed).
> seek professional help if necessary.
>
> - SAGE
>
Woo...@hotmail.com
In article <34A69387...@mailexcite.com>,
"midnight.avenger" <midnight...@mailexcite.com> wrote:
>
> Why do you people have a problem with white men who prefer Asian women?
>
> I am Asian and very much an "asiaphile". I also love blondes so you
> guys with a lot of time on your hands, go ahead start a thread about men
> of color who are into "whiteyphilia".
>
> Happy New Year everybody!
>
> Rick
> (also guility of latinaphilia)
So you *confess* to suffering from Big-boobphilia.... Asiaphilia.....
Blondaphila... and Latinaphila?? Ahhhh. vee haff vays to stop such
inter-racial interests!!! Vee vill send out zee goon squad, Ja Sage und
Susan Cohen, und hunt down diss Asian guy who vants to be vith all sorts
of women!!!! Acch! Vat is diss world coming too, mein Fuhrer?????
Susan Cohen
Woo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> In article <34A69387...@mailexcite.com>,
> "midnight.avenger" <midnight...@mailexcite.com> wrote:
> >
> > Why do you people have a problem with white men who prefer Asian women?
> >
> > I am Asian and very much an "asiaphile". I also love blondes so you
> > guys with a lot of time on your hands, go ahead start a thread about men
> > of color who are into "whiteyphilia".
> >
> > Happy New Year everybody!
> >
> > Rick
> > (also guility of latinaphilia)
>
> So you *confess* to suffering from Big-boobphilia.... Asiaphilia.....
> Blondaphila... and Latinaphila?? Ahhhh. vee haff vays to stop such
> inter-racial interests!!! Vee vill send out zee goon squad, Ja Sage und
> Susan Cohen, und hunt down diss Asian guy who vants to be vith all sorts
> of women!!!! Acch! Vat is diss world coming too, mein Fuhrer?????
Once again, Woody, your marital status means very little to me, except as a
key to your so-called personality. It's your anti-Jewish ravings & cheap,
personal, unsubstantiated attacks that get your butt kicked every time you
come around here.
I would ask for you to produce evidence of any other WM I have flamed for
being married to an AW, but "proof" (along with truth, integrity, intelligence
or maturity) just isn't in your vocabulary.
Susan Cohen
Woo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Terms like "Asiaphile" or "nigger-lover" or "Whiggie" or "Oreo" are
>
> all part of the lexicon of small-minded, jealous, bitter racists.
So is "J.A.P.", a favorite word of yours.
Woo...@hotmail.com
Susan Cohen whines:
>
> Once again, Woody, your marital status means very little to me, except as a
> key to your so-called personality. It's your anti-Jewish ravings & cheap,
> personal, unsubstantiated attacks that get your butt kicked every time you
> come around here.
>
**** Get my butt kicked? Ah, what have you been smoking Susan? Remember,
saying it's so doesn't make it so. My butt hasn't been kicked a single
time here---unlike you, who have been strung up and publically flailed by
so many people for your racist bullshit. You've been exposed as both a
racist and an idiot, and you can't stand it!!!
> I would ask for you to produce evidence of any other WM I have flamed for
> being married to an AW, but "proof" (along with truth, integrity, intelligence
> or maturity) just isn't in your vocabulary.
***** I would ask you to provide proof that I've flamed any other Jewish
woman for being a Jewish American Princess except you!!!! Aaaaah, you
can't huh? I thought so! As I've told you over and over, "If the shoe
fits, wear it." And your big ass has been flamed royally for being the
racist, obnoxious Jewish American Princess that you are.... and I know it
drives you (literally, apparently) crazy.
Now go crawl back under the rock you came from Susan, cause you're toast!
Susan Cohen
Woo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Susan Cohen whines:
> >
> > Once again, Woody, your marital status means very little to me, except as a
> > key to your so-called personality. It's your anti-Jewish ravings & cheap,
> > personal, unsubstantiated attacks that get your butt kicked every time you
> > come around here.
> >
>
> **** Get my butt kicked? Ah, what have you been smoking Susan?
Only you - & roasting, toasting & burning to a crisp - & the flames are going to get
a lot higher, so just sit back & cry. (And you should use a comma before directly
addressing someone in a sentance).
> Remember,
> saying it's so doesn't make it so.
This is a lesson you have yet to learn.
> My butt hasn't been kicked a single
> time here--
See? You saying it doesn't make it so! The very fact that you snip all of my
challenges & never reply to any of them is a sign of your cowardice & my
correctness.
> -unlike you, who have been strung up and publically flailed by
> so many people for your racist bullshit.
I would defy you to name a single person (besides you & your made-up alter egos) who
has done so, but you aren't into proving your lies. But that's okay. :->
(And are you going to tell me that "publically" is a typo?)
> You've been exposed as both a
> racist and an idiot, and you can't stand it!!!
You making up lies about me is hardly an exposition of anything but your own limited
intelligence & pathetic bigotry.
> > I would ask for you to produce evidence of any other WM I have flamed for
> > being married to an AW, but "proof" (along with truth, integrity, intelligence
> > or maturity) just isn't in your vocabulary.
>
> ***** I would ask you to provide proof that I've flamed any other Jewish
> woman for being a Jewish American Princess except you!!!!
I see, so you once again dodge my insistence of proof?
But, as for your own challenge: Okay.
(In the following, Woodyee opens his diatribe, debating with another member of
soc.culture.jewish who he snipped from the post)
Subject: Re: The Royal Bitch
From: Woo...@hotmail.com
Date: 1997/12/16
Message-ID: <676t2a$dq8$1...@orthanc.reference.com>
Newsgroups: israel.lists.il-talk,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish
[More Headers]
>
A LOT OF JEWISH WOMEN DO TRY TO ACT LIKE PRINCESSES... THEY'RE RIDICULOUS!
> Who are those harmfull "WE" ???
> That absolutely baseless term is one of the disousters of the
> Jewish population.
>
> Becouse so many jerks repeat using that baseless term, young Jewish
> boyes are brainwashed not to mary a Jewish girl! It became a real
> problem for so many young Jewish girls, aspecialy when then Goyish
> girls does know that a Jewish husband is better than a goyish one.
>
MOST PEOPLE WOULD PREFER A GOYISH HUSBAND TO A JEWISH ONE...SORRY.
ANYONE WHO IS OFFENDED BY BEING CALLED A J.A.P. NEEDS TO GO BUY A SENSE OF HUMOR!
> It should be brought to the knowledge of Jewish boyes that Jewish
> girls are supperioure to goyish ones!
>
JEWISH GIRLS" BUTTS ARE TOO BIG AND FAT! I PREFER ASIAN GIRLS OR GOYS. AND
JEEWISH GIRLS ARE TOO BOSSY AND MATERIALISTIC AND BORING!!!
> ( I am aware to the fact that those who accept the antisemite
> term "JAP" consider the above to be "racist" - let they think so).
>
> I call every jew , boy or a girl, to shut the stinky mouth of
> those who use that stinky baseless term.
JAP... JAP.... JAP----IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!
<end of post>
And there we have it. Want more, Woody? There's plenty of it, if you're dumb enough
to insist on it!
> Aaaaah, you
> can't huh? I thought so!
No, you don't think. Ever.
> As I've told you over and over, "If the shoe
> fits, wear it." And your big ass has been flamed royally for being the
> racist, obnoxious Jewish American Princess that you are.... and I know it
> drives you (literally, apparently) crazy.
I think everyone can see who's the crazy one, now. And the lybing, hypocritical
bigot.
> Now go crawl back under the rock you came from Susan, cause you're toast!
1) If you're going to truncate (that's "cut short" for dummies like you) a word,
it's customary to use a ' in place of the missing syllable.
2) I think we can see which piece of toast lives under a rock, Mr. Mixed Metaphors,
& it sure isn't Susan Cohen!
But thanks for playing: Johnnie has some lovely parting gifts for you backstage.
Woo...@hotmail.com
Today, we have a perfect example of the Jewish American Princess syndrome
in Susan Cohen <ze...@smart.net>.
She is a woman with a brain the size of a pea, and a butt the size of a
sofa.
A woman obsessed with royalty, but in reality just a royal bitch.
> > Susan Cohen whines:
> > >
> > > Once again, Woody, your marital status means very little to me, except as
key to your so-called personality. It's your anti-Jewish ravings & cheap,
> > > personal, unsubstantiated attacks that get your butt kicked every time you
> > > come around here.
> > >
> >
> > **** Get my butt kicked? Ah, what have you been smoking Susan?
>
To which Susan, showing her true nature slobbers:
> Only you - & roasting, toasting & burning to a crisp - & the flames are going
to get
> a lot higher, so just sit back & cry. (And you should use a comma before
directly
> addressing someone in a sentance).
***** To which Woodyee merely laughs and says--Hey dumbshit! You don't
even know how to spell sentence. You jerk, the word is spelled: S-E-N-T-E
(not "A" you moron)N-C-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By spelling the word "sentance," ironically in the middle of a rant where
you try to take me to task for my grammar, you show everyone who reads
this exactly what a hypocritical, anti-Asian, racist, lying, foul
mouthed, stupid, and ignorant bitchy woman you are! Thank you for
demonstrating exactly how ignorant and phony you are!!!!!!!
Like I've keep telling you Susan, racist idiots like you living in glass
houses shouldn't throw rocks. And guess what Cohen? *Crash!!!!!!* That
was the sound of your little glass house smashing to pieces!
>
> > Remember,
> > saying it's so doesn't make it so.
>
> This is a lesson you have yet to learn.
>
**** Susan, seeing how I'm the one who told you that, I kind of doubt it!
Moron.
> > My butt hasn't been kicked a single
> > time here--
>
> See? You saying it doesn't make it so! The very fact that you snip all of my
> challenges & never reply to any of them is a sign of your cowardice & my
> correctness.
>
**** You stupid idiot. I responded to every bullshit *challenge* you put
up--such as pointing out all the anti-Asian crap you've said. You
conveniently ignore that.
By the way Susan, I've been meaning to ask. Is the fact that you broke up
with a *wealthy Chinese businessman* (your words) the cause for this
anti-Asian rancor ?
> > -unlike you, who have been strung up and publically flailed by
> > so many people for your racist bullshit.
>
> I would defy you to name a single person (besides you & your made-up alter
egos) who
> has done so, but you aren't into proving your lies. But that's okay. :->
***** Again, I already listed a few. I have to go back and do that again.
How about SAGE, Air bug, and several others who--by the way--are not my
'alter egos' you jerk! You're really getting desparate when you toss out
an accusation like that! It pleases me to know that you are so desparate
Susan. Furthermore, I don't know a single person in this ng personally,
nor do I correespond with them or encourage them to keep on flaming you
as they have been. (Although I do get a kick out of reading them!) So any
flaming of your big ol' porky 'royal' ass Susan is totally beyond my
control.... not that I'd stop it if I could! You're getting what you
deserve. And if you can't take the heat, run home crying girl!
>
> (And are you going to tell me that "publically" is a typo?)
**** Nope. It was a mistake. But please tell me again how to spell
*sentence* Susan. The difference is that, unlike you, I never bragged
about my spelling and grammar and *grades* although they're not bad. You
did. So when you make a mistake like spelling sentence with an "a" you
just look like an asshole and a hypocrite.
>
> > You've been exposed as both a
> > racist and an idiot, and you can't stand it!!!
>
> You making up lies about me is hardly an exposition of anything but your own
limited
> intelligence & pathetic bigotry.
**** Tell me specifically one lie I've told about you Susan. Just one--in
detail, okay? You're a coward.
>
> > > I would ask for you to produce evidence of any other WM I have flamed for
> > > being married to an AW, but "proof" (along with truth, integrity,
intelligence
> > > or maturity) just isn't in your vocabulary.
> >
> > ***** I would ask you to provide proof that I've flamed any other Jewish
> > woman for being a Jewish American Princess except you!!!!
>
> I see, so you once again dodge my insistence of proof?
> But, as for your own challenge: Okay.
>
> (In the following, Woodyee opens his diatribe, debating with another member of
> soc.culture.jewish who he snipped from the post)
>
> Subject: Re: The Royal Bitch
> From: Woo...@hotmail.com
> Date: 1997/12/16
> Message-ID: <676t2a$dq8$1...@orthanc.reference.com>
> Newsgroups: israel.lists.il-talk,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish
> [More Headers]
>
> >
> A LOT OF JEWISH WOMEN DO TRY TO ACT LIKE PRINCESSES... THEY'RE RIDICULOUS!
>
> > Who are those harmfull "WE" ???
> > That absolutely baseless term is one of the disousters of the
> > Jewish population.
****** Ah, look up the spelling of the word "disasters" too.
> >
> > Becouse so many jerks repeat using that baseless term, young Jewish
> > boyes are brainwashed not to mary a Jewish girl! It became a real
> > problem for so many young Jewish girls, aspecialy when then Goyish
> > girls does know that a Jewish husband is better than a goyish one.
****** So saying that a Jewish husband is better than a *goyish* one
isn't a racial insult????????????????????????????
> >
>
> MOST PEOPLE WOULD PREFER A GOYISH HUSBAND TO A JEWISH ONE...SORRY.
>
> ANYONE WHO IS OFFENDED BY BEING CALLED A J.A.P. NEEDS TO GO BUY A SENSE OF
HUMOR!
**** A-men to that!!!! In fact the term Jewish American Princess is part
of the lexicon of American Jewish men who created the term in the first
place!!!
>
> > It should be brought to the knowledge of Jewish boyes that Jewish
> > girls are supperioure to goyish ones!
****** "Jewish girls are supperioure (nice spelling BTW) to goyish ones!"
Now tell me that is more chauvanistic, racist crap Susan!!!
> >
>
> JEWISH GIRLS" BUTTS ARE TOO BIG AND FAT! I PREFER ASIAN GIRLS OR GOYS. AND
> JEEWISH GIRLS ARE TOO BOSSY AND MATERIALISTIC AND BORING!!!
***** Yep, that's the opinion of the poster--in response to the statement
Jewish women are the best....... What's good for the goose..... right-o?
Or, if you state an opinion, better be prepared for someone to come along
and state their own opinion on the topic!!! Then again Susan, you wish to
control every man's opinion. Sorry. Go pound salt.
>
> > ( I am aware to the fact that those who accept the antisemite
> > term "JAP" consider the above to be "racist" - let they think so).
> >
> > I call every jew , boy or a girl, to shut the stinky mouth of
> > those who use that stinky baseless term.
>
> JAP... JAP.... JAP----IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!
>
> <end of post>
>
> And there we have it. Want more, Woody? There's plenty of it, if you're dumb
enough
> to insist on it!
***** More of *what,* you moron?
>
> > Aaaaah, you
> > can't huh? I thought so!
>
> No, you don't think. Ever.
>
> > As I've told you over and over, "If the shoe
> > fits, wear it." And your big ass has been flamed royally for being the
> > racist, obnoxious Jewish American Princess that you are.... and I know it
> > drives you (literally, apparently) crazy.
>
**** I think Susan Cohen has proven herself to be a big bag of hot air.
> I think everyone can see who's the crazy one, now. And the lybing,
hypocritical
> bigot.
>
**** Gee Susan, how do you spell "lying"--is there really a "b" in it? (I
only enjoy busting Susan's chops over her mistakes because she always
tries to do that herself when arguing with others. Invariably, you can
count on her to step in a big pile of typo doo-doo and track her own shit
around for the whole ng to see. What a hypocrite!)
> > Now go crawl back under the rock you came from Susan, cause you're toast!
>
> 1) If you're going to truncate (that's "cut short" for dummies like you) a
word,
> it's customary to use a ' in place of the missing syllable.
**** Dear idiot: Web postings are sometimes intentially written in the
conversational, informal "short-hand style" using such vernacular...
"cause" for "because." Thanks for showing everyone what a stuck-up, anal,
brain-dead, annoying, boring, dried-up, fat-assed, nagging, disgusting
Jewish American Princess you are Susan Cohen.
> 2) I think we can see which piece of toast lives under a rock, Mr. Mixed
Metaphors,
> & it sure isn't Susan Cohen!
>
**** Susan Cohen lives down the basement where she parks her big, flabby
Jewish American ass every night munching on pastries and slobbering drool
and crumbs on her keyboard as she posts ....
> But thanks for playing: Johnnie has some lovely parting gifts for you
backstage. Susan Cohen you've won:
--A video tape "Buns of Steel" to work off that big dupa you've got!
--A dictionary to assist you in spelling oh-so-tough words like
"sentence."
--A crown and extra-wide sash to wear as our official "Jewish American
Princess of the Year."
--An all-expenses-paid month-long stay in the mental health institute of
your choice where you'll learn to deal with obvious problems such as
projection, anti-Asian feelings, and your sexually confused/frustrated
identity.
Susan Cohen
Woo...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Today, we have a perfect example of the Jewish American Princess syndrome
> in Susan Cohen <ze...@smart.net>.
>
> She is a woman with a brain the size of a pea,
- which is still monumentally larger than yours, as can be seen when you dodge my
challenges in every post (such as -----
> and a butt the size of a
> sofa.
*this*:) Do prove this. Please.
> A woman obsessed with royalty, but in reality just a royal bitch.
Well, I suppose you would consider any woman who refuses to back down before your
demented, sexist, bigoted dribblings, & who is constantly showing you up for the
lying hypocritical moron that you are, to be a bitch.
> > > Susan Cohen whines:
> > > >
> > > > Once again, Woody, your marital status means very little to me, except as
> key to your so-called personality. It's your anti-Jewish ravings & cheap,
> > > > personal, unsubstantiated attacks that get your butt kicked every time you
> > > > come around here.
> > > >
> > >
> > > **** Get my butt kicked? Ah, what have you been smoking Susan?
> >
>
> To which Susan, showing her true nature slobbers:
There is certainly no "slobbering" going on - except by you. You're the one in love
with the exclamation points. I find that my words are powerful enough on their own.
You, on the other hand, are constantly drowning yours in hyperbolic embellishment -
to hide their worthless nature, no doubt. Sorry, it doesn't work.
> > Only you - & roasting, toasting & burning to a crisp - & the flames are going
> to get
> > a lot higher, so just sit back & cry. (And you should use a comma before
> directly
> > addressing someone in a sentance).
>
> ***** To which Woodyee merely laughs and says--Hey dumbshit! You don't
> even know how to spell sentence.
And you still do not know how to punctuate. There should be a comma after "Hey."But
I can use my spell-checker for the occasional mistake. What are you going to do
about your even greater illiteracy?
> You jerk, the word is spelled: S-E-N-T-E
> (not "A" you moron)N-C-E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is no "merely" involved when you use 33 exclamation points. 33? Boy, you are
sad.
> By spelling the word "sentance," ironically in the middle of a rant where
> you try to take me to task for my grammar, you show everyone who reads
> this exactly what a hypocritical, anti-Asian,
Prove this.
> racist,
Prove this.
> lying,
Prove this.
> foul
> mouthed, stupid, and ignorant bitchy woman you are! Thank you for
> demonstrating exactly how ignorant and phony you are!!!!!!!
>
> Like I've keep telling you Susan,
(Comma before & after, Woody)
> racist
Prove this.
> idiots like you living in glass
> houses shouldn't throw rocks.
Physician, heal thyself.
> And guess what Cohen?
(Comma before "Cohen", Woody)
> *Crash!!!!!!* That
> was the sound of your little glass house smashing to pieces!
More like the sound of your head imploding from the onslaught of logic.
> > > Remember,
> > > saying it's so doesn't make it so.
> >
> > This is a lesson you have yet to learn.
> >
>
> **** Susan, seeing how I'm the one who told you that, I kind of doubt it!
Woody, seeing as how you are the one who keeps saying things in a feeble attempt to
pretend that they are so. I do not.
> Moron.
Like this.
> > > My butt hasn't been kicked a single
> > > time here--
> >
> > See? You saying it doesn't make it so! The very fact that you snip all of my
> > challenges & never reply to any of them is a sign of your cowardice & my
> > correctness.
> >
>
> **** You stupid idiot. I responded to every bullshit *challenge* you put
> up-
No, you have not. Not once, never. You have never found a post wherein I said
anything racist or bigoted. you are a liar, plain & simple.
> -such as pointing out all the anti-Asian crap you've said.
Where?
> You
> conveniently ignore that.
I can't ignore what is not there.
> By the way Susan, I've been meaning to ask. Is the fact that you broke up
> with a *wealthy Chinese businessman* (your words)
Those were not my words. What *I* said was that I had to turn down the offer to date
a Chinese businessman.
I think this is the problem, here: you can't comprehend simple English, & so you
fabricate to fill in the blanks.
> the cause for this
> anti-Asian rancor ?
Since there is none, there can be no cause.
> > > -unlike you, who have been strung up and publically flailed by
> > > so many people for your racist bullshit.
> >
> > I would defy you to name a single person (besides you & your made-up alter
> egos) who
> > has done so, but you aren't into proving your lies. But that's okay. :->
>
> ***** Again, I already listed a few. I have to go back and do that again.
No, you did not list anyone who has accused me of being racist.
> How about SAGE, Air bug,
Who have never called me racist. Ever.
> and several others who--by the way--are not my
> 'alter egos' you jerk!
(You keep forgetting the commas....)
> You're really getting desparate when you toss out
> an accusation like that!
It is you who are getting desperate, creating people to "agree with you" - & it is
so obvious when you can't even make them sound different than you (how do you think
I twig to the fact? Jerk!).
> It pleases me to know that you are so desparate
I'm sure it pleases you to *think* I am "desperate (Who's the hypocrite now, Woody?
Huh? This just keeps getting more & more amusing for me!)
> Susan. Furthermore, I don't know a single person in this ng personally,
> nor do I correespond with them or encourage them to keep on flaming you
> as they have been. (Although I do get a kick out of reading them!)
Considering the brevity of the immature obscenity that has come my way, I can only
imagine how that must appeal to your similar nature.
> So any flaming of your big ol' porky 'royal' ass Susan
(Comma before a direct address, Woody)
> is totally beyond my
> control.... not that I'd stop it if I could! You're getting what you
> deserve.
I'm sure you think that about any woman who dares to point out your shortcomings, &
refuses to take your childish abuse. You're pathetic.
> And if you can't take the heat, run home crying girl!
You are the one who can't take the heat, as is proven by your continually growing
stack of lies. Remember, when you tell one lie, you have to keep telling others to
cover up the original ones! It's a never-ending cycle.
> > (And are you going to tell me that "publically" is a typo?)
>
> **** Nope. It was a mistake. But please tell me again how to spell
> *sentence* Susan.
(Comma before direct address, Woody).
Gee, you harp on that one mistake so often. I'm sorry for your sake that I just
don't make as many as you do.
> The difference is that, unlike you, I never bragged
> about my spelling and grammar and *grades* although they're not bad.
You have tried to correct me as many times as I have corrected you - which means you
are just as guilty of it, though with less cause, which - again - makes you a
hypocrite.
> You
> did. So when you make a mistake like spelling sentence with an "a" you just look
> like an asshole and a hypocrite.
No, I don't think I resemble you in the slightest.
> > > You've been exposed as both a
> > > racist and an idiot, and you can't stand it!!!
> >
> > You making up lies about me is hardly an exposition of anything but your own
> limited
> > intelligence & pathetic bigotry.
>
> **** Tell me specifically one lie I've told about you Susan. Just one--in
> detail, okay?
You know very well the lies you have been telling about me:
You have called me a racist. This is not so.
You have called me a bigot. This is not so.
You have said I am anti-Asian. This is not so.
You have said I am anti-Chinese. This is not so.
There is no further detail, unless you mean to list the posting in which you've done
this - in which case I *already* don't have to do so - you've done it in *this*
posting, & in every other on this & other ngs! You're a raving lunatic if you
actually believe these lies, & a sick liar if you don't, for you have no proof of
anything you say.
(You have also made personal remarks about me which can be proven to be false, but
since they say more about your bigoted nature than they do my supposed appearance,
as you insist on linking it to my religion, I guess I should just let them stand)
> You're a coward.
And you have said I am a coward. This is also not so. You are the coward, as you
duck & dodge every demand for proof, as well as every proof I have posted about your
anti-Jewish posting. Which makes you a hypocrite as well.
I won't deny being a hypocrite as I'm sure I have been somewhere in my life - there,
there's a bone for you, which you will no doubt slobber over for years to come,
having nothing else to cheer you.
I see: if Woody wants to be bigoted, it's a joke, & we should all "lighten up." But
if someone calls him an "Asiaphile", a term made up by angry Asian men, watch out!
> > > It should be brought to the knowledge of Jewish boyes that Jewish
> > > girls are supperioure to goyish ones!
>
> ****** "Jewish girls are supperioure (nice spelling BTW) to goyish ones!"
You know very well I didn't write this. This was a poster you snipped (a man from
Israel, I believe)
> Now tell me that is more chauvanistic, racist crap Susan!!!
>
> > >
> >
> > JEWISH GIRLS" BUTTS ARE TOO BIG AND FAT! I PREFER ASIAN GIRLS OR GOYS. AND
> > JEEWISH GIRLS ARE TOO BOSSY AND MATERIALISTIC AND BORING!!!
>
> ***** Yep, that's the opinion of the poster-
Your opinion.
> -in response to the statement
> Jewish women are the best....... What's good for the goose..... right-o?
> Or, if you state an opinion, better be prepared for someone to come along
> and state their own opinion on the topic!!!
And so should you! But, no: Woody Michaels is the one who decides what is racist &
what is "just a joke." Woody Michaels can call Jewish women "JAPs", but, by G-d, no
one had better call him an "Asiaphile"! Woody Michaels can make sweeping
generalizations about an entire religious group, but no one had better call him on
it - and, least of all a *woman*! Woody Michaels can determine what is feminine &
what is not - even though he is a man, & no woman had better contradict him! And,
lest we forget, Woody Michaels is allowed to make up lies about anyone he wants if
it will bolster his lying hypocritical bigotry, & no one had better complain, or
he'll screech like the stuck pig that he is!
Just about sums it up, huh, Woody?
> Then again Susan, you wish to
> control every man's opinion.
No, just to correct the false ones which are directed at me.
> Sorry. Go pound salt.
You are a sorry specimen, indeed. Do likewise.
> > > ( I am aware to the fact that those who accept the antisemite
> > > term "JAP" consider the above to be "racist" - let they think so).
> > >
> > > I call every jew , boy or a girl, to shut the stinky mouth of
> > > those who use that stinky baseless term.
> >
> > JAP... JAP.... JAP----IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!
> >
> > <end of post>
> >
> > And there we have it. Want more, Woody? There's plenty of it, if you're dumb
> enough
> > to insist on it!
>
> ***** More of *what,* you moron?
Since you obviously can't read English, I'll spell it out for you: more of your
bigotry, moron (Remember that comma!).
> > > Aaaaah, you
> > > can't huh? I thought so!
> >
> > No, you don't think. Ever.
Gee, no answer to the fact that I caught you out in yet another lie?.
> > > As I've told you over and over, "If the shoe
> > > fits, wear it." And your big ass has been flamed royally for being the
> > > racist, obnoxious Jewish American Princess that you are.... and I know it
> > > drives you (literally, apparently) crazy.
> >
> **** I think Susan Cohen has proven herself to be a big bag of hot air.
Now you're really proving yourself delusional: I've proved you to be a lying
hypocritical bigot by the words from your own mouth.
> > > Now go crawl back under the rock you came from Susan, cause you're toast!
> >
> > 1) If you're going to truncate (that's "cut short" for dummies like you) a
> word,
> > it's customary to use a ' in place of the missing syllable.
>
> **** Dear idiot: Web postings are sometimes intentially written in the
> conversational, informal "short-hand style" using such vernacular...
> "cause" for "because."
Dear moron: if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. You wanted a
grammar/spelling war, you've got one.
> Thanks for showing everyone what a stuck-up, anal,
> brain-dead, annoying, boring, dried-up, fat-assed, nagging, disgusting
> Jewish American Princess you are Susan Cohen.
Since I haven't done this except in your dreams, I'm sorry, I can't take any credit
or thanks. (& you really should remember those commas, Woody!).
> > 2) I think we can see which piece of toast lives under a rock, Mr. Mixed
> Metaphors,
> > & it sure isn't Susan Cohen!
> >
>
> **** Susan Cohen lives down the basement where she parks her big, flabby
> Jewish American ass every night munching on pastries and slobbering drool
> and crumbs on her keyboard as she posts ....
Just keep making up these childish personal insulting lies if it makes you feel any
better: it's a loser tactic, & exposes your inferiority far better than I could
myself.
> > But thanks for playing: Johnnie has some lovely parting gifts for you
> backstage. Susan Cohen you've won:
Yes, I have won, because you are truly showing your desperation when you have to
edit my words to suit your own pathetic agenda.
> --A video tape "Buns of Steel" to work off that big dupa you've got!
And for you:
-- enough sessions on the couch to understand why you have to make up such silly
insults about another person's looks (Big hint: it has something to do with covering
up your own inadequacies!).
> --A dictionary to assist you in spelling oh-so-tough words like
> "sentence."
- a book on grammar for just about every sentence you write? (And maybe I'll even
throw in another mistake somewhere, just to keep you from harping on this single one
- but, then again, you have so little else on which to harp.)
> --A crown and extra-wide sash to wear as our official "Jewish American
> Princess of the Year."
-- sensitivity training to make you understand your own bigoted hypocrisy.
> --An all-expenses-paid month-long stay in the mental health institute of
> your choice where you'll learn to deal with obvious problems such as
> projection, anti-Asian feelings, and your sexually confused/frustrated
> identity.
Why, just the thing you need!
> -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
Gee, do you do this just so your bosses at "Sift" don't catch on to what you're
doing on work time & with their equipment?