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HI M&M GOT YOUR E-MAIL AND NO E-MAIL ADDRESS......... MARK (USA)

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MARK PINKERTON

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Dec 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/12/96
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HI


GOT YOUR LETTER BUT YOU FORGOT YOUR E-MAIL ADDERSS


MARK

Seung-Jun

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Dec 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/13/96
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In article <32B09B...@earthlink.net>, on Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:57:22
-0400, MARK PINKERTON <comi...@earthlink.net> wrote:

: HI

: GOT YOUR LETTER BUT YOU FORGOT YOUR E-MAIL ADDERSS

: MARK

Is he looking for m&m's?

--
Seung-jun,


José Luis González

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Dec 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/23/96
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Please go to: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jlgv/ Thanks.

HEMS

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Dec 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/24/96
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Reply to <mid...@ozemail.com.au> for details.

micky...@aol.com

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Dec 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/30/96
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I am a single archetypal male who needs a woman who is into art,
music, and laughter amongst nature. Please send letter and photo for
an extended correspondence and possible marriage to:

Porter Benton
4309 Little River Rd.
Birmingham, AL. 35213

Sorry I do not have e-mail access, but I will reply promptly.

Thank You


Porter Benton


micky...@aol.com

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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Greetings from America! I've never communicated like this
before, but thought maybe it's worth a shot. It's so difficult meeting
the "right" person these days, so perhaps this is a different
alternative. I've reached the age where I would like to settle down
and get married, the problem is finding that special person.
Please let me introduce myself: I'm a 31 year old single
archetypal male (American of Celtic descent), very athletic,
well-read, love to sing, dance and entertain- I love affirming life in
general. I seek a person who is aesthetic, honest, intelligent,
sensitive, sensuous, beautiful, into art, music, and laughter amongst
nature. Please tell me about yourself, your passions, dreams, goals,
etc. . . and send a photograph (will do the same) so we can begin an
extended correspondence leading to possible marriage. Send to:


Porter Benton
4309 Little River Rd.
Birmingham, AL. 35213


Sorry I do not have e-mail access, but I will reply promptly.

Thank You


Porter Benton


I posted the following for a friend who is genuine about settling down
with a suitable person, but he DOES NOT HAVE E-MAIL. Thanks for your
time, and please forward the message to anywhere you think apropos.
-- Thanks


Micky

Questor

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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In <32cb0a5d...@news.earthlink.net> micky...@aol.com writes:
>
> Greetings from America! I've never communicated like this
>before, but thought maybe it's worth a shot. It's so difficult meeting
>the "right" person these days, so perhaps this is a different
>alternative. I've reached the age where I would like to settle down
>and get married, the problem is finding that special person.
> Please let me introduce myself: I'm a 31 year old single
>archetypal male (American of Celtic descent), very athletic,
>well-read, love to sing, dance and entertain- I love affirming life in
>general. I seek a person who is aesthetic, honest, intelligent,
>sensitive, sensuous, beautiful, into art, music, and laughter amongst
>nature. Please tell me about yourself, your passions, dreams, goals,
>etc. . . and send a photograph (will do the same) so we can begin an
>extended correspondence leading to possible marriage. Send to:
>
>
>Porter Benton
>4309 Little River Rd.
>Birmingham, AL. 35213
>
>
>Sorry I do not have e-mail access, but I will reply promptly.
>
>Thank You
>
>
>Porter Benton
>
>
My God man! Do you know what you've done to yourself? Not only have you
put your head on the "chopping block" for everyone to call you an
asiaphile, but you've even given the psycho's an address to mail you
tangible hate mail! Please save yourself and us a little frustration
and meet women via normal means. This is a Culture group, not a singles
bulletin board.

Young Song

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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In article <32cb0a5d...@news.earthlink.net>, micky...@aol.com wrote:

=
=Porter Benton
=4309 Little River Rd.
=Birmingham, AL. 35213

Oh wow.

A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.* newsgroups.

How sexy.
I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to each
other.


Indonesian Connections

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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Some people believe that hiding behind a computer screen gives them the
right to trash those they don't know. Ysong, you should be ashamed of
yourself!
Ratih

Young Song <ys...@slip.net> wrote in article
<5ags6v$bv$2...@news1.slip.net>...

Joan Marie Shields

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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Indonesian Connections <ra...@unreachable.ten> wrote:
>Some people believe that hiding behind a computer screen gives them the
>right to trash those they don't know. Ysong, you should be ashamed of
>yourself!
>Ratih

Young Song <ys...@slip.net> wrote in article

>> A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.* newsgroups.
>> How sexy.
>> I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to each
>> other.


And some people seem to think that soc.culture.* groups are appropriate
places to pick up women... kind of insulting, don't you think? These
groups are not a dating service or sort of hunting ground. Or do you
think they are?


joan


--
Joan Shields jshi...@uci.edu aka: jo...@med.unc.edu (until March 1997)
University of California - Irvine
School of Social Ecology Department of Environmental Analysis and Design
I do not purchase services or products from unsolicited e-mail advertisements.

Jim Beaven

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Young Song wrote:

> In article <32cb0a5d...@news.earthlink.net>, micky...@aol.com wrote:
>
> =
> =Porter Benton
> =4309 Little River Rd.
> =Birmingham, AL. 35213
>
> Oh wow.
>

> A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.* newsgroups.
>
> How sexy.
> I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to each
> other.

Young Song,
I am not very good with the Korean language, but I thought young song
was a guys name?
So are you wanting to marry a guy young?
8-)
Jamal-al-Din Beaven Al-Ameriki

ps if I am off on the name big deal. 8-)


diss...@this.land.liberty

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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micky...@aol.com wrote:

> Greetings from America! I've never communicated like this
>before, but thought maybe it's worth a shot. It's so difficult meeting

Greetings from America too. You clueless desperately horny nitwit.
Next time remove soc.culture.asian.AMERICAN from your crossposting.
And perhaps cross post this to someplace relevant, like a penpals or
singles newsgroup. Also, the asia related newsgroups weren't created
to revolve around the needs of desperate guys who can't date women
that they know in real life.

....del...

>
>I posted the following for a friend who is genuine about settling down
>with a suitable person, but he DOES NOT HAVE E-MAIL. Thanks for your
>time, and please forward the message to anywhere you think apropos.
>-- Thanks
>

If this is a troll, then I'm sorry for the real owner of that email
address.

>
>Micky
>


Questor

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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In <01bbf8b7$b2ddbb00$3d0997ce@default> "Indonesian Connections"

<ra...@unreachable.ten> writes:
>
>Some people believe that hiding behind a computer screen gives them
the
>right to trash those they don't know. Ysong, you should be ashamed of
>yourself!
>Ratih
>
>Young Song <ys...@slip.net> wrote in article
><5ags6v$bv$2...@news1.slip.net>...

>
>> A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.*
newsgroups.
>
>>
>> How sexy.
>> I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to
each
>> other.
>
Some people house train there pets by the following example: When the
offending dog poops on the carpet, put his noes in it and swat him on
the butt.

Maybe this guy won't come and poop on SCAA's carpet anymore now.
Cultural Groups aren't meant for the Dating Game.

Questor

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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In <5ags6v$bv$2...@news1.slip.net> ys...@slip.net (Young Song) writes:
>
>In article <32cb0a5d...@news.earthlink.net>, micky...@aol.com
wrote:
>
>=
>=Porter Benton
>=4309 Little River Rd.
>=Birmingham, AL. 35213
>
>Oh wow.
>
>A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.*
newsgroups.
>
>How sexy.
>I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to
each
>other.
>
OUCH! Good one! (I did say he was asking for it though!)

Questor

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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In <5ah63e$j...@news.service.uci.edu> jshi...@rigel.oac.uci.edu (Joan
Marie Shields ) writes:
>
>Indonesian Connections <ra...@unreachable.ten> wrote:
>>Some people believe that hiding behind a computer screen gives them
the
>>right to trash those they don't know. Ysong, you should be ashamed of
>>yourself!
>>Ratih
>
>Young Song <ys...@slip.net> wrote in article
>>> A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.*
newsgroups.
>>> How sexy.
>>> I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to
each
>>> other.
>
>
>And some people seem to think that soc.culture.* groups are
appropriate
>places to pick up women... kind of insulting, don't you think? These
>groups are not a dating service or sort of hunting ground. Or do you
>think they are?
>
Perhaps he's looking for a wife as well?

DR/Q

Dan Bennett

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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In <5ags6v$bv$2...@news1.slip.net> ys...@slip.net (Young Song) writes:

>A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.*
newsgroups.
>How sexy.
>I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to
>each other.

That's OK. For just as we know that all Southerners are rednecks who
marry their relatives, we know that all Asians are sneaky, underhanded,
wimpy and near-sighted if male, and stupidly submissive sex toys if
female.

Ain't stereotypes grand?

W. Bangs

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
to Questor

This one is just plain silly, people. I note a gramatical error in this
guy's post "...intelligent, beautiful, and likes ...amongst.". Amongst
what? Pretty pathetic, huh?


W. Bangs

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
to Questor

The first few American Seeks Wife messages were entertaining, but at this
point it no longer belongs on rec.travel.asia. I will say this, though:
Peter: if you're reading this, why not go to Asia, meet some women and
decide if you like them? But be warned: Asian women aren't pushovers any
more than American ones are.

Ben

On 2 Jan 1997, Questor wrote:

> In <5ags6v$bv$2...@news1.slip.net> ys...@slip.net (Young Song) writes:
> >

> >In article <32cb0a5d...@news.earthlink.net>, micky...@aol.com
> wrote:
> >
> >=
> >=Porter Benton
> >=4309 Little River Rd.
> >=Birmingham, AL. 35213
> >
> >Oh wow.
> >

> >A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.*
> newsgroups.
> >
> >How sexy.
> >I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to
> each
> >other.
> >

gwbrown

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On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Young Song wrote:

> In article <32cb0a5d...@news.earthlink.net>, micky...@aol.com wrote:
>
> =
> =Porter Benton
> =4309 Little River Rd.
> =Birmingham, AL. 35213
>
> Oh wow.
>
> A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.* newsgroups.
>
> How sexy.
> I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to each
> other.

This person in Birmingham AL apparently doesn't know what this newsgroup
is about. You do, don't you think your comments are racist.

Gary

>
>
>

Jonelle

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Jan 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/2/97
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On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 micky...@aol.com wrote:

> Greetings from America! I've never communicated like this
> before, but thought maybe it's worth a shot. It's so difficult meeting

> the "right" person these days, so perhaps this is a different
> alternative. I've reached the age where I would like to settle down
> and get married, the problem is finding that special person.

Why are you on this newsgroup?

> Please let me introduce myself: I'm a 31 year old single
> archetypal male (American of Celtic descent), very athletic,
> well-read, love to sing, dance and entertain- I love affirming life in
> general. I seek a person who is aesthetic, honest, intelligent,
> sensitive, sensuous, beautiful, into art, music, and laughter amongst
> nature. Please tell me about yourself, your passions, dreams, goals,
> etc. . . and send a photograph (will do the same) so we can begin an
> extended correspondence leading to possible marriage. Send to:

Ah..so you're looking for an Asian!
Go away....

> Porter Benton
> 4309 Little River Rd.
> Birmingham, AL. 35213
>
>
> Sorry I do not have e-mail access, but I will reply promptly.
>
> Thank You
>
>
> Porter Benton
>
>
>
>

> I posted the following for a friend who is genuine about settling down
> with a suitable person, but he DOES NOT HAVE E-MAIL. Thanks for your
> time, and please forward the message to anywhere you think apropos.
> -- Thanks
>
>

> Micky


Jonelle**

------------------- http://www.geocities.com/Paris/7323 -------------------


Jong

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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diss...@this.land.liberty wrote:

A major hypocracy comes when they realize some parties
actively seek what they want deep inside but somehow
frustrated in doing so for themselves for whatever the reason.

The real enemies of open internet is not the seemingly dissidents,
but the seemingly 'proper', 'good', 'normal', 'acceptable' and
'universal' ones.

If anybody tries to impose their own value on this kind of
loose society, he/she should be the first to be questioned
on his/her intellectual quality as a mature and critical
human.

Jong


> micky...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Greetings from America! I've never communicated like this
> >before, but thought maybe it's worth a shot. It's so difficult meeting
>

> Greetings from America too. You clueless desperately horny nitwit.
> Next time remove soc.culture.asian.AMERICAN from your crossposting.
> And perhaps cross post this to someplace relevant, like a penpals or
> singles newsgroup. Also, the asia related newsgroups weren't created
> to revolve around the needs of desperate guys who can't date women
> that they know in real life.
>
> ....del...
>
> >

> >I posted the following for a friend who is genuine about settling down
> >with a suitable person, but he DOES NOT HAVE E-MAIL. Thanks for your
> >time, and please forward the message to anywhere you think apropos.
> >-- Thanks
> >

> If this is a troll, then I'm sorry for the real owner of that email
> address.
>
> >
> >Micky
> >

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
The major force of organization is represented as 'love',
which is a physical term for (not against) structuralization
of nexistent particles toward existence and then toward
higher order particles

eng...@aol.com

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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writes:

>nd get married, the problem is finding that special person.

> Please let me introduce myself: I'm a 31 year old single
>archetypal male (American of Celtic descent), very athletic,
>well-read, love to sing, dance and entertain- I love affirming life in
>general. I seek a person who is aesthetic, honest, intelligent,
>se

Get a life geek! Try posting *personals* in an appropriate forum.


El

Sir CooLa

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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Lighten up, would you?

A quy looking for oversea romance, what can be more nature than that?

Now, whoes mind disqust me the most?


On Fri, 03 Jan 1997 00:01:29 +0000, Jong <jh...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

>diss...@this.land.liberty wrote:
>
>
>A major hypocracy comes when they realize some parties
>actively seek what they want deep inside but somehow
>frustrated in doing so for themselves for whatever the reason.
>
>The real enemies of open internet is not the seemingly dissidents,
>but the seemingly 'proper', 'good', 'normal', 'acceptable' and
>'universal' ones.
>
>If anybody tries to impose their own value on this kind of
>loose society, he/she should be the first to be questioned
>on his/her intellectual quality as a mature and critical
>human.
>
>Jong

- Sir CooLa

======================================================

- La sUrphynIa cOover bOocoWa rEmoo aNa tA siNeRy -

======================================================

eng...@aol.com

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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In article <01bbf8b7$b2ddbb00$3d0997ce@default>, "Indonesian Connections"
<ra...@unreachable.ten> writes:

>
>Some people believe that hiding behind a computer screen gives them the
>right to trash those they don't know. Ysong, you should be ashamed of
>yourself!
>Ratih
>
>

Ysong has every right to trash this looser. He can't respect people on
this newsgroup, why should anyone show him respect? This is not a marriage
or dating service.

EL

jung yul suh

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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In <32CD27...@stratos.net> Angel of Light <ins...@stratos.net> writes:

[deleted]
>I rememebered reading news when I was growing up in Thailand. This was
>in early 70's. Thai women married German. When they reached Germany,
>they were beaten, raped and forced into prostitution. For those
>innocent uneducated Asian women, they need to be told and warn.

There was a name for these Thai women in German, "Thai Frau"

J. Suh

Alan Dawson

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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In article <Pine.A41.3.95b.97010...@dante05.u.washington.edu>,
"W. Bangs" <wbb...@u.washington.edu> writes:

He can't write grammatical. You can't spell grammatical. Etc. The
world turns.

Follow-ups reset. Cripes.

--
Alan Dawson

It's easy to make a friend, it's harder to make a stranger.


Jim Beaven

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On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Young Song wrote:

> In article <Pine.BSI.3.91.970102...@shell.super-highway.net>, gwbrown <gwb...@super-highway.net> wrote:
> =On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Young Song wrote:
> =
> => In article <32cb0a5d...@news.earthlink.net>, micky...@aol.com wrote:
> =>
> => =
> => =Porter Benton
> => =4309 Little River Rd.
> => =Birmingham, AL. 35213
> =>
> => Oh wow.
> =>
> => A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.* newsgroups.
> =>
> => How sexy.
> => I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to each
> => other.
> =
> =This person in Birmingham AL apparently doesn't know what this newsgroup
> =is about. You do, don't you think your comments are racist.
> =
> =Gary
>
> No not at all. I believe everyone should have the right to own a white
> person.
>
>
and 2 koreans, just to keep it even in value
;-)
Jamal-al-Din Beaven Al-Ameriki

Dan Bennett

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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In <5aiiti$kf6$1...@news1.slip.net> ys...@slip.net (Young Song) writes:

>Shut the fuck up you little weasel.

Oh boy, yet another intellectual giant.


--
Dan Bennett, Unreconstructed Southron
....
"The moralities accepted among men may differ - though not,
at bottom, so widely as is often claimed - but they all
agree in prescribing a behaviour which their adherents
fail to practise. All men alike stand condemned, not by
alien codes of ethics, but by their own, and all men
therefore are conscious of guilt. -- C.S. Lewis

Questor

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In <32CD27...@stratos.net> Angel of Light <ins...@stratos.net>
writes:
>
>US NEWS TODAY HOT HOT HOT from the US Press!!!! BEWARE
>
>It is the American new culture of the 90's to use the internet to find
a
>soulmate across the World. It is difficult to meet people nowaday
>especially for those loosers White men. Let me tell you from the
>experience, most American (Negros and White) put their ads in the
>"personal" sections of Newspaper, magazines and internet are a bunch
of
>loosers. These men and women are fat, ugly, ballhead, or something
>wrong with them.
>
>
Pretty harsh aren't we? I don't think that race has anything to do with
these people being sick as hell! Obviously, they are social deviants
who are lacking the necessary skills to get up off their lazy ass and
meet someone through normal channels.

And they also must have money to waste. What kind of person would they
be expecting via mail/newspaper anyhow? Not Joan Chen I assume!

These losers are taking advantaged of disadvantaged persons in
disadvantaged situations in whatever country they may reside in. COlor
has nothing to do with it.

Warning ladies: If a man is willing to Buy you or ship you like a crate
of fruit from another country, do you seriously expect love or
happiness? You'll be treated like a crate of fruit, as a possession.

Don't let the shades of gray confuse you.Sometimes black and white have
nothing to do with a sick mind.

DR
>Warning to all Asian Ladies! Don't response to them. Their are
>ex-convicted criminals out there.
>
> A black woman was beaten up by her
>
> A married white woman left her husband a note saying, "I am going
to
>grocery store." Next day her body was found. Her husband found her
>email with the killer on the internet. The man who she met on the net
>warned her, "I am going to rape you, torture you, then killed you."
>Despite of the message the killer sent her, she was stupid to go on to
>meet him. She died.
>
> Those men advertised to offer Asians women money i.e.,
> "owner of 2 restuarants, will pay your family $500 a month..."
This
>guy is fat, ugly, filthy, and does not have the money. This is one of
>the low class, filthy red neck, who desperate for Asian women. To
them,
>we asian women are doormat, stupid, uneducated, slave who wait on
their
>hands and feets, etc.
>
>Well educated professional people won't be out here. Take it from my
>experience living in America for 20 years. Yes, many stories of
>Filippines who want to marry for Visa to come to America. Some came
and
>reached as far as the airport, but the man who promised to marry her
>never showed up.

Questor

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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In <32CD3C...@stratos.net> Angel of Light <ins...@stratos.net>
writes:
>
>For those who disbelieve it. Here try it for yourself and ask for
>pictures from them.
>
>www.yahoo.com
>Go to cities ie, Los Angeles, San Francisco, DC , Boston, Chicago.
Then
>go under personal and look up for yourself.
>
>Then here are some news papers:
>
>San Jose Mercury News
>www.sjmercury.com Go to personal under Relationship
>
>Then San Francisco Chronical, www.sfgate.com
>look personal ads. Try it. and you will see the results.
>
>Althought the white men are bunch of ugly, fat, ball head or loosers;
>the asian women and men are truely honest and sincere. Most of them
are
>beautiful and attractive. Of course, Asians are taught to be honest.
>The White/Black Americans are not taught that ways. Most of them lie
>even to themselves. The majority can't accept their own look. Many
>ugly men or fat women post themselves as handsome, attractive, etc.
>Beware!
>
Do you personally have a dislike for black and white people? If so just
say so and don't hide it behind warning others about demented people.

Apparently you are an asian racist. That's what it would seem. Read
your own post and tell me what you would infer from it. "The Blacks and
Whites are ugly..etc....and the asians are beautiful...." Matter of
opinion don't you think?

I too really dislike the people that try to substitute real
relationships for this mail-order crap. But I don't trash races for it.

DR

zhourong

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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You should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!!!!
you don't have rights to post such things on the newsgroup!

jstr...@opal.tufts.edu

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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Hello!
Its nice to see that others are jumping on the spammer who posts such
nonsense. However, if you must respond, learn to use your software
correctly: reply to the individual responsible or to his administrator or
ISP. Do NOT reply to all of the newsgroups. This is the first and last
time I will cross-post this way. I hope newbies will learn to read FAQs
concerning posting on USENET newsgroups (like rec.trave.asia,
soc.culture.filipino, etc.)

Finally, spammers and net abusers and flag-wavers may label you as "wanna
be net-cops". Remember that there is NO official way to respond to
abusers; feel free to reapons however you wish for aour collective good.

Look at rec.travel.europe to see how bad a newsgroup can become.

John
Boston, USA


Sang Yi

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On 3 Jan 1997, Dan Bennett wrote:

> In <5aiiti$kf6$1...@news1.slip.net> ys...@slip.net (Young Song) writes:
>
> >Shut the fuck up you little weasel.
>
> Oh boy, yet another intellectual giant.
>
>
> --
> Dan Bennett, Unreconstructed Southron

can't we all just get along? let's think like the old and familiar tv
commercial for reeces peanut butter cup: "hey! you got your peanut butter
on my chocolate!" "and you got your chocolate in my peanut butter!"

two great taste finally together.

nah, let's just go with stri...@hotmail.com's option of RACIAL EQUALITY
THRU NUCLEAR WAR

Sang Yi / "Always... Always remember: Less is less.
sh...@midway.uchicago.edu / More is more. More is better, and twice as
(__) / much is good too... Not enough is bad, and too
(--) / much is never enough except when it's just about
\/ / right." - The Tick

eng...@aol.com

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In article <5ahbr6$1...@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>, rdbe...@ix.netcom.com(Dan
Bennett) writes:

>
>That's OK. For just as we know that all Southerners are rednecks who
>marry their relatives, we know that all Asians are sneaky, underhanded,
>wimpy and near-sighted if male, and stupidly submissive sex toys if
>female.
>
>Ain't stereotypes grand?

If that was meant to be a joke it was not funny! Stereotypes may be funny
to you, but others take it more seriously.


El

Wil A. Ferguson

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Jonelle <sto...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.SOL.3.91.970102...@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu>...


> On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 micky...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Greetings from America! I've never communicated like this
> > before, but thought maybe it's worth a shot. It's so difficult meeting

> > the "right" person these days, so perhaps this is a different
> > alternative. I've reached the age where I would like to settle down
> > and get married, the problem is finding that special person.
>
> Why are you on this newsgroup?

Because he can be.

>
> > Please let me introduce myself: I'm a 31 year old single
> > archetypal male (American of Celtic descent), very athletic,
> > well-read, love to sing, dance and entertain- I love affirming life in
> > general. I seek a person who is aesthetic, honest, intelligent,

> > sensitive, sensuous, beautiful, into art, music, and laughter amongst
> > nature. Please tell me about yourself, your passions, dreams, goals,
> > etc. . . and send a photograph (will do the same) so we can begin an
> > extended correspondence leading to possible marriage. Send to:
>
> Ah..so you're looking for an Asian!
> Go away....

Jonelle,

Before you decide to slam dunk this gentleman who is simply looking for his
soulmate I pose the following question to you:

How do you think I met *my* fiancee?

;-)

Cheers!

- Wil

mail100

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rdbe...@ix.netcom.com(Dan Bennett) wrote:

>In <5aiiti$kf6$1...@news1.slip.net> ys...@slip.net (Young Song) writes:

>>Shut the fuck up you little weasel.

>Oh boy, yet another intellectual giant.


(social oucasted white loser delete)

hey,

why don't you give some advice to your fellow social outcasted white
male loser friend.

max


W. Bangs

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to jstr...@opal.tufts.edu

Please, people: if you must continue this thread (which I must admitt is
interesting), please take it OFF rec.travel.asia, perhaps posting one last
time to let us know the ONE newsgroup in which the discussion will
continue! The soc.culture newsgroups I can understand, and I can even see
how the original of this post (and a FEW replies) got onto a newsgroup
having to do with RECREATIONAL travel to Asia, but I'm beginning to wonder
if that's still the newsgroup I'm in! At this point the substance of this
discussion has left travel behind (actually the only person who would have
ever done any travelling was the woman -- FROM, not TO Asia. So PLEASE,
people: NO MORE!

W. Bangs

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I second what was said in this post. I'm an American man, and I like
Asian women -- but I have a life beyond the Internet, and I figure I can
go out and meet them for myself. Now I can understand that this guy in
Alabama might not be a serial killer (maybe he's just painfully shy), but
in that case he should get messages from all of us telling him not to be
so fearful and to just go out and make connections on his own, or with a
friend or something. It's just too likely that any woman who responds is
going to get hurt in some way. I assume this guy has already been told
that looking for women over the Internet is pretty pathetic, but anyone
who'se actually thinking about responding to him, well...just write to his
postal address and give him ideas about how to overcome his shyness and
get out there. That way everybody wins.


Kuang-Yu Shih

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
to

I think people are over-reacting about this. It is not that much
different from posting American citizen looking for Asian wife or Asian
woman looking for U.S. resident on newspaper. Since it is indeed hard to
find people and NG does have its appeal: it's free and it can reach many
people. I won't be too surprise too see more e-mails like that coming.

Robert Knowles

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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jung yul suh wrote:
>
> In <32CD27...@stratos.net> Angel of Light <ins...@stratos.net> writes:
>
> [deleted]

> >I rememebered reading news when I was growing up in Thailand. This was
> >in early 70's. Thai women married German. When they reached Germany,
> >they were beaten, raped and forced into prostitution. For those
> >innocent uneducated Asian women, they need to be told and warn.
>
> There was a name for these Thai women in German, "Thai Frau"

And what exactly do you think "Thai Frau" means?

Robert Parlato

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Angel of Light wrote:
>
> US NEWS TODAY HOT HOT HOT from the US Press!!!! BEWARE
>
> It is the American new culture of the 90's to use the internet to find a
> soulmate across the World. It is difficult to meet people nowaday
> especially for those loosers White men. Let me tell you from the
> experience, most American (Negros and White) put their ads in the
> "personal" sections of Newspaper, magazines and internet are a bunch of
> loosers. These men and women are fat, ugly, ballhead, or something
> wrong with them.
>
> Warning to all Asian Ladies! Don't response to them. Their are
> ex-convicted criminals out there.
>
> A black woman was beaten up by her
>
> A married white woman left her husband a note saying, "I am going to
> grocery store." Next day her body was found. Her husband found her
> email with the killer on the internet. The man who she met on the net
> warned her, "I am going to rape you, torture you, then killed you."
> Despite of the message the killer sent her, she was stupid to go on to
> meet him. She died.
>
> Those men advertised to offer Asians women money i.e.,
> "owner of 2 restuarants, will pay your family $500 a month..." This
> guy is fat, ugly, filthy, and does not have the money. This is one of
> the low class, filthy red neck, who desperate for Asian women. To them,
> we asian women are doormat, stupid, uneducated, slave who wait on their
> hands and feets, etc.
>
> Well educated professional people won't be out here. Take it from my
> experience living in America for 20 years. Yes, many stories of
> Filippines who want to marry for Visa to come to America. Some came and
> reached as far as the airport, but the man who promised to marry her
> never showed up.
>
> I rememebered reading news when I was growing up in Thailand. This was
> in early 70's. Thai women married German. When they reached Germany,
> they were beaten, raped and forced into prostitution. For those
> innocent uneducated Asian women, they need to be told and warn.


How small you are.

Andrew Ik

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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diss...@this.land.liberty wrote:

>
> What pushed my buttons was the fact that the originial poster spammed
> all the asia related groups, and did not even post to a personals, or
> penpals group. In addition, the original poster wrote "Greetings from
> America" to soc.culture.asian.american. Here I am, sitting in an
> american home, as an american citizen, reading an american related
> newsgroup, and weirdo from outerspace says "Greetings from America, I
> seek asian wife." Geez, it would be absurdly funny, if it didn't
> happen all the time.
>
You are right man...stand up for what you believe !! I'm on your side.
Those damn whiteys think that they can do anything they wish to in every
country on earth...They believe they are the choosen race..beautiful,
etc.. In fact. they are stink like skunk, hairy like monkey and ugly if
you look at them closely.
Peace to all Asian Brothers.

Pepper

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--
Celtic Readings
http://www.aysia.com/celtic/

micky...@aol.com wrote in article
<32c7c590...@news.earthlink.net>...
> I am a single archetypal male who needs a woman who is into art,
> music, and laughter amongst nature. Please send letter and photo for
> an extended correspondence and possible marriage to:


>
> Porter Benton
> 4309 Little River Rd.
> Birmingham, AL. 35213
>
> Sorry I do not have e-mail access, but I will reply promptly.
>
> Thank You

I've said it before to many other men who have dared to place such an ad
here. You will not only be flamed, but raosted, toasted, barbequed \, and
fricasseed! Just you wait, 'Enry 'Iggins! Just you wait!


Robert Maxwell Harris

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Jan 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/3/97
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On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Young Song wrote:

> In article <01bbf8b7$b2ddbb00$3d0997ce@default>, "Indonesian Connections" <ra...@unreachable.ten> wrote:
> =Some people believe that hiding behind a computer screen gives them the
> =right to trash those they don't know. Ysong, you should be ashamed of
> =yourself!
> =Ratih
>
> Shut the fuck up you little weasel. Picking up women like this by
> crossposting to every soc. newsgroups has never been considered good behavior.
> Why don't you take that fucking 2 by 4 out of your ass and let some air out of
> your brain you weak little buttmunch.
>
>


Although, I agree Mr. Alabama deserved the flames he got, your post
doesn't exactly give the impression of superior intellect--too much Bevis
and Butthead perhaps??

Dan Bennett

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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In <5aj96p$1...@fiji.easyway.net> mai...@hotmail.com (mail100) writes:

>why don't you give some advice to your fellow social outcasted white
>male loser friend.

I'd rather give advise to womanless whiner's like yourself. Remember,
Jacob, you'll NEVER have a date as long as we superiour white males
have you under interdict. Don't forget that WE are the ones who run
things, and it's WE who've decided that you will NEVER, EVER have a
date. You'll suffer in wretched celibacy for as long as you live,
Jacob, because we control the world's women.


diss...@this.land.liberty

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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Kuang-Yu Shih <sh...@haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:

What pushed my buttons was the fact that the originial poster spammed


all the asia related groups, and did not even post to a personals, or
penpals group. In addition, the original poster wrote "Greetings from
America" to soc.culture.asian.american. Here I am, sitting in an
american home, as an american citizen, reading an american related
newsgroup, and weirdo from outerspace says "Greetings from America, I
seek asian wife." Geez, it would be absurdly funny, if it didn't
happen all the time.

Maybe, the USA changed somehow over an hour, and the new greeting
american custom is to say to each other: "Greetings from America,
Earthling. I seek to marry someone that doesn't know me yet."

You are now entering the Twilight Zone.....


jung yul suh

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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In <32CDC2...@msn.com> Robert Knowles <Robert_...@msn.com> writes:

>jung yul suh wrote:
>>
>> In <32CD27...@stratos.net> Angel of Light <ins...@stratos.net> writes:
>>
>> [deleted]

>> >I rememebered reading news when I was growing up in Thailand. This was
>> >in early 70's. Thai women married German. When they reached Germany,
>> >they were beaten, raped and forced into prostitution. For those
>> >innocent uneducated Asian women, they need to be told and warn.
>>

>> There was a name for these Thai women in German, "Thai Frau"

>And what exactly do you think "Thai Frau" means?

Thai Frau means exactly what is described above. Thai women who married
German male thinking that she will have a better life, only to find out
that she is actually a sex toy for some sadistic and perverted German
males. This was a social problem back in 70's in Germany.

Do you get it now ?

J. Suh

KG

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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Please remove all NG's except soc.culture.korean from your responses to
this article. Let the miscegenation experts in s.c.k. pick this over;
it's one of their hobbies.

Barney Fife

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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>>> If that was meant to be a joke it was not funny! Stereotypes may be
>funny
>>>to you, but others take it more seriously.
>>
>>
>>>El
>>
>>Yeah, it was funny. But it wouldn't be funny to a hypocrite who
>>deplores the stereotyping of groups he likes, but tolerates or engages
>>in the stereotyping of groups he doesn't.
>>
>>
>Well, Barney, you are obviously a presumptious person. Tell me, where and
>when did i tolerate stereotyping of people, hah? Where and when did i
>engage in stereotyping of people, hah? Since you know me so much, why
>don't you tell me?


>EL

Well, as much as we've heard from you recently, I don't remember hearing
many protests from you regarding the dominant WM/AF stereotypes presented
in this NG, which are quite numerous and uncomplimentary [tolerance]. You
have also made some unkind references to what you call "Asiaphiles" lately
in s.c.a.a. [engaging in]. BTW, "hah" [sic] is spelled "huh," and yes, I am a
presumptuous [this is how you should spell that word, too].

Barney

Gary L. Green

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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On Thu, 02 Jan 97 17:45:43 GMT, ys...@slip.net (Young Song) wrote:

>A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women

>I would get married to you but unfortunately, we are not related to each
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>other.
^^^^^

That was great!
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!

Remember the hillbilly newlyweds?
After the honeymoon the new hubby returns to his home alone.

"Boy, where's that bride-o-yers"? asks paw.

"I sent her back to her own kin", replys the 16 yo, Deliverance banjo
player looking son. "The weddin's over"

"Boy, why you done dat?"

"Paw", replies the son,"she were a VIRGIN and if she aint good enough
fer her family she aint good enough fer mine."

From:
Your Kind and Humble Narrator
Gary L. Green, B.Sc., D.C.
jia...@pc.jaring.my
Police tagline. Do not cross.

eng...@aol.com

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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In article <5aiggr$5...@colombia.earthlink.net>, barne...@aol.com (Barney

eng...@aol.com

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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In article
<Pine.A41.3.95b.97010...@dante23.u.washington.edu>, "W.
Bangs" <wbb...@u.washington.edu> writes:

>I second what was said in this post. I'm an American man, and I like
>Asian women -- but I have a life beyond the Internet, and I figure I can
>go out and meet them for myself. Now I can understand that this guy in
>A

What do you mean that you are an"american man" there are many races and
culture in this country, please be more specific.


El

CooLa

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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dO yA cOntrol tHai wOman? tHey aRe mEn yOu kNow. yUck!

- Sir CooLa

======================================================

- La sUrphynIa cOover bOocoWa rEmoo aNa tA siNeRy -

======================================================

Dan Bennett

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
to

In <32e99b10...@nntp.netcruiser> Co...@netcom.ca (CooLa) writes:

>dO yA cOntrol tHai wOman? tHey aRe mEn yOu kNow. yUck!

Time for your medication, Cool.

mail100

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rdbe...@ix.netcom.com(Dan Bennett) wrote:


you social oucast you...:)

max


If you fake my mail ID, your Email SMTP And News NNTP
will still show. I will forward the forged to your
postmaster. I will do my best to reply to your emails.
thank you.


Sean P. Roan

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
to

Followup-To: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.filipino,soc.couples.intercultural,rec.travel.asia,japan.life.single,soc.culture.hongkong.entertainment,


My only curiousity about this whole thing is maybe the guy can't find a
date...I dont know the guy so I'm not sticking up for him...but maybe the
only way he can find a date is through the internet...maybe he prefers an
asian lady...or maybe he posted to non-asian groups apart from the asian
groups...who knows...and even if he did want an asian lady and the lady
was willing to reply then they would more than likely both be using each
other...so if they were two consenting adults who would be right to say
either of them was wrong? Maybe those kind of posts like that guy made
are not offensive because he is asking for a date, but because some
people know their might be some replies...but then again I think the
whole things sick...but I dont think its much worse than my girlfriends
mom telling my girlfriend that she should just marry someone from her own
country (shes filipino) if she cant find anyone non-white...because she
said at least that way she would be helping a fellow country man out to
get citizenship in the states...tell me thats not as bad and I will call
you a hypocrite....
....

God bless,
Sean

Z

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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jung yul suh (jy...@copper.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:
: >> There was a name for these Thai women in German, "Thai Frau"

: >And what exactly do you think "Thai Frau" means?

: Thai Frau means exactly what is described above. Thai women who married
: German male thinking that she will have a better life, only to find out
: that she is actually a sex toy for some sadistic and perverted German
: males. This was a social problem back in 70's in Germany.

yah, that is low.
btw, "Thai Frau" literally translated probably means something
like Thai women, or in this case, Thai wife.

bye.

Jonelle

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
to

Hi Sean,
Look who it is.
I would like to clear up what I had said before.
There is nothing wrong with dating someone who is Asian. I had a
problem with him advertising for a date on these newsgroups. If he
would like to find a honey, he can post to the personals.


On 4 Jan 1997,
Sean P. Roan wrote:

Jonelle**

------------------- http://www.geocities.com/Paris/7323 -------------------


micky...@aol.com

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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Greetings from America! I've never communicated like this
before, but thought maybe it's worth a shot. It's so difficult meeting
the "right" person these days, so perhaps this is a different
alternative. I've reached the age where I would like to settle down
and get married, the problem is finding that special person.
Please let me introduce myself: I'm a 31 year old single
archetypal male (American of Celtic descent), very athletic,
well-read, love to sing, dance and entertain- I love affirming life in
general. I seek a person who is aesthetic, honest, intelligent,
sensitive, sensuous, beautiful, into art, music, and laughter amongst
nature. Please tell me about yourself, your passions, dreams, goals,
etc. . . and send a photograph (will do the same) so we can begin an
extended correspondence leading to possible marriage. Send to:


Porter Benton
4309 Little River Rd.
Birmingham, AL. 35213


Sorry I do not have e-mail access, but I will reply promptly.

Thank You


Porter Benton


I posted the following for a friend who is genuine about settling down
with a suitable person, but he DOES NOT HAVE E-MAIL. Thanks for your
time, and please forward the message to anywhere you think apropos.
-- Thanks


Micky

steven

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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In article <32cf4827...@news.jaring.my>, jia...@pc.jaring.my says...

----------

Wah, ah doo deeclare,

We suthern fok ah beein' made funuv in the asee-ahn groop.

stee-ven


bijapur

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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Much the same thing happens in the USA. Many Asian women marrying
American men, especially Koreans and Philipinas, are forced into
prostitution once stateside. This is done primnarily by military
personel, and most US bases have a red light area nearby. The women have
no support half a world away from their homes. Asian women beware!!!
Ed

steven

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
to

In article
<Pine.A41.3.95b.97010...@dante23.u.washington.edu>,
wbb...@u.washington.edu says...

>
>I second what was said in this post. I'm an American man, and I like
>Asian women -- but I have a life beyond the Internet, and I figure I can
>go out and meet them for myself. Now I can understand that this guy in
>Alabama might not be a serial killer (maybe he's just painfully shy), but
>in that case he should get messages from all of us telling him not to be
>so fearful and to just go out and make connections on his own, or with a
>friend or something. It's just too likely that any woman who responds is
>going to get hurt in some way. I assume this guy has already been told
>that looking for women over the Internet is pretty pathetic, but anyone
>who'se actually thinking about responding to him, well...just write to his
>postal address and give him ideas about how to overcome his shyness and
>get out there. That way everybody wins.
>
-----------

W. Bangs,

What you have said above is definitely the most compassionate
thing I have ever seen in the newsgroups. You obviously have a
great insight into the human condition, and your advice is very,
very, well spoken.

If only others would show such similiar compassion, although some-
times flaming must be done to the obviously obnoxious. In this case,
the guy was most likely just ignorant of internet protocol and very
shy to begin with.


steven


PS --- Any relation to Lester Bangs of REM affiliation?


Donald Yee

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Jan 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/4/97
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.970103...@haas.berkeley.edu> Kuang-Yu Shih <sh...@haas.berkeley.edu> writes:
>
>I think people are over-reacting about this. It is not that much
>different from posting American citizen looking for Asian wife or Asian
>woman looking for U.S. resident on newspaper. Since it is indeed hard to
>find people and NG does have its appeal: it's free and it can reach many
>people. I won't be too surprise too see more e-mails like that coming.

i think people react like this in the hope that they don't see
more e-mails like this coming.

it really isn't free, and there are definite places for this, only
a few of _all_ the groups listed are even vaguely relevant, like
life.singles sounds like imight be a pickup joint, but
soc.culture.hongkong.entertainment????

i hope this guy finds a nice psycho obsessive to settle down with.
in the past month i've heard already about two internet wierdos
hooking up w/ people, one tied up his date and threatened to kill
her to get his hard-on, some other guy 24 or something, skipped off
with a 13 year old girl.

yeah, the internet, when you're too sleazy for a sleazy bar.
at least in the bar, you can spot the obvious wierdos before it's
too late. here you can edit out all your wierdness.

don

scottyc

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Jan 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/5/97
to

f'in good anwser, 9.95 points for attitude, u rock.

Questor

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Jan 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/5/97
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The main reason he's getting trashed is for WHERE he is seeking a mate.
Not as much as how. I'm looking at these groups deciding which to cut
from this silly thread! Soc.culture groups aren't quite the place
for..."Hi, I'm a WM seeking a mailorder bride"

In <5amo2k$5...@artemis.it.luc.edu> sr...@orion.it.luc.edu (Sean P.
Roan) writes:
>
>Followup-To:
soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.c
lture.korean,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.filip
no,soc.couples.intercultural,rec.travel.asia,japan.life.single,soc.cult

eng...@aol.com

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Jan 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/5/97
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In article <5al5j9$c...@colombia.earthlink.net>, barne...@aol.com (Barney
Fife) writes:

>Well, as much as we've heard from you recently, I don't remember hearing
>many protests from you regarding the dominant WM/AF stereotypes presented
>in this NG, which are quite numerous and uncomplimentary [tolerance].
You

Let me ask you this Barney, am i supposed to police SCAA and flame
everybody who stereotype WM/AF couples? I have my own agenda, and you have
yours. In general, i dislike stereotype particularly the negative variety
that had been dogging asians/asian-american in this country. Since you
have your own agenda i suggest you take it upon yourself to dispel
stereotypes associated with WM/AF, maybe you'll be able to enlighten some
of us.


>have also made some unkind references to what you call "Asiaphiles"
lately
>in s.c.a.a. [engaging in]. BTW, "hah" [sic] is spelled "huh," and yes,
I am
>a
>presumptuous [this is how you should spell that word, too].


Since you're not asian you could not comprehend what an asiaphile
represent. As for my spelling, i don't have time to kill like you do to
proof-read everything i've written, plus it's sad to see you resort to low
tactics like correcting people's spelling. I would like to inform you that
we are not in a grammer class, and what you've corrected is irrelevent to
this discussion.


El


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Barney Fife

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>Let me ask you this Barney, am i supposed to police SCAA and flame
>everybody who stereotype WM/AF couples?

No, I suppose not.

> I have my own agenda, and you have
>yours. In general, i dislike stereotype particularly the negative variety
>that had been dogging asians/asian-american in this country.

No problem there.

>Since you >have your own agenda i suggest you take it upon yourself to dispel
>stereotypes associated with WM/AF, maybe you'll be able to enlighten some
>of us.

Is that what my agenda is? I thought I was just responding the discussion in progress.

>Since you're not asian you could not comprehend what an asiaphile
>represent.

Fair enough.

> As for my spelling, i don't have time to kill like you do to
>proof-read everything i've written, plus it's sad to see you resort to low
>tactics like correcting people's spelling.

I know. I'm so ashamed.

>I would like to inform you that we are not in a grammer class, and what
>you've corrected is irrelevent to this discussion.

I stand reminded, but still defiant.

Sean P. Roan

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Oh my gosh...its you jonelle...do you know who this is? Hi how are you
doing? I didn't even realize thats you posting here...
ANyways no I know you didn't say anything about whites and
asians...I know you would never say anything like that...my point was
that even though it might be idiotic for him to post on these newsgroups
is it really that wrong for him to be seeking someone here if theres someone
whose idiotic enough to reply back to him to accept his offer?

God bless,
Sean
p.s. jonelle how is school? ARe you coming back to your favorite suburb
any time soon?

Jonelle (sto...@students.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Hi Sean,


: Look who it is.
: I would like to clear up what I had said before.
: There is nothing wrong with dating someone who is Asian. I had a
: problem with him advertising for a date on these newsgroups. If he
: would like to find a honey, he can post to the personals.


: On 4 Jan 1997,
: Sean P. Roan wrote:

: > Followup-To: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.filipino,soc.couples.intercultural,rec.travel.asia,japan.life.single,soc.culture.hongkong.entertainm
ent,
: >
: >
: > My only curiousity about this whole thing is maybe the guy can't find a

: > date...I dont know the guy so I'm not sticking up for him...but maybe the
: > only way he can find a date is through the internet...maybe he prefers an
: > asian lady...or maybe he posted to non-asian groups apart from the asian
: > groups...who knows...and even if he did want an asian lady and the lady
: > was willing to reply then they would more than likely both be using each
: > other...so if they were two consenting adults who would be right to say
: > either of them was wrong? Maybe those kind of posts like that guy made
: > are not offensive because he is asking for a date, but because some
: > people know their might be some replies...but then again I think the
: > whole things sick...but I dont think its much worse than my girlfriends
: > mom telling my girlfriend that she should just marry someone from her own
: > country (shes filipino) if she cant find anyone non-white...because she
: > said at least that way she would be helping a fellow country man out to
: > get citizenship in the states...tell me thats not as bad and I will call
: > you a hypocrite....
: > ....
: >
: > God bless,
: > Sean

: >
: >

: Jonelle**

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Wil A. Ferguson wrote:

> > > Please let me introduce myself: I'm a 31 year old single
> > > archetypal male (American of Celtic descent), very athletic,
> > > well-read, love to sing, dance and entertain- I love affirming life in
> > > general. I seek a person who is aesthetic, honest, intelligent,
> > > sensitive, sensuous, beautiful, into art, music, and laughter amongst
> > > nature. Please tell me about yourself, your passions, dreams, goals,
> > > etc. . . and send a photograph (will do the same) so we can begin an
> > > extended correspondence leading to possible marriage. Send to:
> >

> > Ah..so you're looking for an Asian!
> > Go away....
>
> Jonelle,
>
> Before you decide to slam dunk this gentleman who is simply looking for his
> soulmate I pose the following question to you:
>
> How do you think I met *my* fiancee?

Umm, stalking her? No... Family Reunion? No... Oh, I've got it - you
spammed a message to inappropriate newsgroups!
Well, congratulations to you, and I mean it (that 'stalking' stuff was just a
joke), however, I don't really think that the soc.culture.* groups are
supposed to be used as personal ads, which is the real point. I have no
objection to a guy trying to find his true soulmate - I hope to do the same
thing one day. It's just that there is a time and a place for everything,
and I don't think that this is it. There are other groups for that sort of
thing.

Steven 'still looking...' Munger

Syndicated News International

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Some of the things you said were extreme but a lot of what you said was
quite legitimte, I'm sorry to say. The "mail order bride" business doesn't
help, it only perpetuates the myth that philippine women have no value
since they're bartered and sold like goods.


bijapur

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I agree. Lets dump the matrimonial threads, eh?

bijapur

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Please stop posting AMERICAN SEEKS WIFE threads on this newsgroup:

rec.travel.asia

You are in the wrong group. Don't waste your time and ours. If you must
post, there are lots of other newsgroups that will not flame you, and
you will feel better about whatever it is you are up to. Is that too
much to ask? I think not.
Just let it go, Ok? Thanks!
Ed

Robert Davis

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Angel of Light wrote:

> Althought the white men are bunch of ugly, fat, ball head or loosers;
> the asian women and men are truely honest and sincere. Most of them are
> beautiful and attractive. Of course, Asians are taught to be honest.
> The White/Black Americans are not taught that ways. Most of them lie
> even to themselves. The majority can't accept their own look. Many
> ugly men or fat women post themselves as handsome, attractive, etc.
> Beware!


Yes I would agree with this in New Zealand. Alot of the men who do this
are old and now want a beautiful wife. Sometimes they lie but there are
ways of finding out whether someone is a lier. But there are also those
that are truely sincere.

My view - anyone into mail order brides, particularly the brides should
beware. Life in white society can get very lonely for those that are
perceived to be "outsiders". I think the bottom line is that this type
of thing is a form of commerce and trade. We should ask the question
should relationships be downgraded to this level. I think particularly
for the asian people they need to be careful as the purchaser (white
person in the US) has alot of power. In many situations these people
have used this power wrongly.

Nothing replaces pure love built through friendship. I think it is
better to seek marriage the old fashioned way.

Gary L. Green

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On Sat, 04 Jan 1997 22:02:27 GMT, micky...@aol.com wrote:

> Greetings from America!
OOOhhhh lookie-lah, from AMERIKA!
I so excited. Maybe Brad Pit, yes?

What is @aol? See so many good looking Amerika guy post from there.
And so many newsgroups. You must be big and strong.

> I've never communicated like this
>before, but thought maybe it's worth a shot.

Oh, that ok, I shy too. I sell my body for internet access just waity
for letter like yours.

> It's so difficult meeting
>the "right" person these days, so perhaps this is a different
>alternative. I've reached the age where I would like to settle down
>and get married, the problem is finding that special person.

Oh, choose me please. I just Thai flower wait to be pluck by big
celtic man from land of big shoppe mall. I your special one.

> Please let me introduce myself: I'm a 31 year old single
>archetypal male (American of Celtic descent), very athletic,
>well-read, love to sing, dance and entertain- I love affirming life in
>general.

Oh you so special. I lovy you now, quick quick. Why you no find
Amerika girl? Maybe she all blind, yes?

> I seek a person who is aesthetic, honest, intelligent,
>sensitive, sensuous, beautiful, into art, music, and laughter amongst
>nature. Please tell me about yourself, your passions, dreams, goals,

I nuclear physicist, Ph.D. with body like goddess. I just want clean
your house, have you baby. Worship you like god. I good Thai girl.
You comy get me yes? Send ticket I come quick.

Fucking damned stupid AOL lamers.
Why don't they put a leash on these fools?


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Gary L. Green, B.Sc., D.C.
jia...@pc.jaring.my

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mankind, is wisdom." -- Thomas Henry Huxley

James A. Donald

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mai...@hotmail.com (mail100) wrote:
> why don't you give some advice to your fellow social outcasted white
> male loser friend.

I gather that your girlfriend ditched you for a white male.

Was your penis too small?

Or was it she just got tired of your paranoid racist rants.
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Larry Pendarvis

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Jonelle wrote:
>
>... I had a

> problem with him advertising for a date on these newsgroups. If he
> would like to find a honey, he can post to the personals.
>

Wrong wrong wrong.
All he can find in the Personals are crummy Western women.

So he did what he THOUGHT was the best, direct approach:
advertise where the appreciative women are.

What he did not know is that the decent women who really
enjoy being married to Westerners do not have InterNet
access... these newsgroups are populated by donas who
are going to Stanford on Daddy's money.
He is guilty of ignorance, not rudeness or malice.

--
Larry Pendarvis
http://www.Filipina.com
Mail Order Brides from the Philippines

"Censorship, like charity, should begin at home;
but, unlike charity, it should end there."
- Clare Boothe Luce

Ron Ledford

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"Artsi eynah erets AKHATH, artsi hi kol ha'aratsoth;
hi ha`olam kulo, kefi shebra'o Elohim:
EKHAD ulelo gevuloth"


Shalom!

Gary N. Harper

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Jim Beaven wrote:
>
> On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Young Song wrote:
>
> > In article <Pine.BSI.3.91.970102...@shell.super-highway.ne
t>, gwbrown <gwb...@super-highway.net> wrote:
> > =On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Young Song wrote:
> > =
> > => In article <32cb0a5d...@news.earthlink.net>, micky...@aol.com wrote:
> > =>
> > => =

> > => A redneck using AOL trying to pick up women on soc.culture.* newsgroups.

> > =This person in Birmingham AL apparently doesn't know what this newsgroup
> > =is about.
> >
> > No not at all. I believe everyone should have the right to own a white
> > person.


cool....there are a bunch of skinheads and Aryian nation type
newsgroups running around let's sell THOSE guys as slaves...

Maybe then we can get a handle on what appears to be a
blatant resurgence of racism in this decade.

Jonelle

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On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Larry Pendarvis wrote:

> Jonelle wrote:
> >
> >... I had a
> > problem with him advertising for a date on these newsgroups. If he
> > would like to find a honey, he can post to the personals.
>
> Wrong wrong wrong.
> All he can find in the Personals are crummy Western women.

Not all Western women are "crummy".

> So he did what he THOUGHT was the best, direct approach:
> advertise where the appreciative women are.

Oh really...maybe you should introduce him to your mail order bride service?

Is there a FAQ for this newgroup?

> What he did not know is that the decent women who really
> enjoy being married to Westerners do not have InterNet

Oh really...what about a women who is a "Westerner"? It is possible that
she can also be happy with a fellow Westerner.

> access... these newsgroups are populated by donas who
> are going to Stanford on Daddy's money.

Are you aware that many Asian women attend Stanford on Daddy's money?
And anyway, most people would be happy with a woman from Stanford. It
happens to be a very good school.

> He is guilty of ignorance, not rudeness or malice.

> --
> Larry Pendarvis
> http://www.Filipina.com
> Mail Order Brides from the Philippines
>
> "Censorship, like charity, should begin at home;
> but, unlike charity, it should end there."
> - Clare Boothe Luce

Jonelle**

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Kuang-Yu Shih

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Ewue urpoiu 'reiogrm orerj irir'rorpo~ uifhbr fuuh uiehjrewqb ur.

gfhufd,

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Simon J. Elliott

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On 7 Jan 1997, Herdy wrote:

> Oriental people are ovely people.
>
Dont you mean OVERLY people?
Gung Xi Faat Chai to you to
(Hong Pao Na Lai?)

Apologies for my hanpinyin.
SE


Herdy

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Oriental people are ovely people.

Kong hay fat Choy, la.

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Steven Munger

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Can I be the first to say: Hitler!

(Which, as I'm sure we all know, whenever someone mentions Hitler in a
thread, that means it's time to let the thread die)

(By the way, I don't mean to offend any Aryans or anybody else with
this, so don't start flaming about it. I didn't make the rule up.
That's just the way it is.)

Steven "God, please, let it end!" Munger

bob

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On Thu, 02 Jan 1997 02:13:31 GMT, micky...@aol.com wrote:

> I've reached the age where I would like to settle down
>and get married, the problem is finding that special person.

<words of desperation deleted>

Hey dickhead:
This is not AOL's Jewish moderated asian forum where 95% of posts
are asiaphiles looking for AF, so do us a favor and kindly crawl back
to your retarded cave.

bob

Larry Pendarvis

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Jonelle wrote:

>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Larry Pendarvis wrote:
>
> > All he can find in the Personals are crummy Western women.
>
> Not all Western women are "crummy".
>

No, but that's about all he'll find in the Personals.

> > What he did not know is that the decent women who really
> > enjoy being married to Westerners do not have InterNet
>
> Oh really...what about a women who is a "Westerner"? It is possible that
> she can also be happy with a fellow Westerner.
>

Western women do not appreciate men.
They do not value traditional family life.
A recent study of Americans found that most married men
are much happier than unmarried men...
but the opposite is true for women.
The goals of modern women are not sufficiently met by marriage.
Marriage is not the right thing for them to do.
It is not good for them.
Men must learn not to try to make these women do what they
do not like.
I am helping Modern Western Women to avoid what they despise.

> > access... these newsgroups are populated by donas who
> > are going to Stanford on Daddy's money.
>
> Are you aware that many Asian women attend Stanford on Daddy's money?
> And anyway, most people would be happy with a woman from Stanford. It
> happens to be a very good school.
>

I guess I meant Berkeley. Or Champaign-Urbana.

What does one call a full-figured bitch who has a
Ph.D. in economics and is an astronaut doing
physics research? A bitch.
Temperament is FAR more important to a happy
marriage than is career competence.

Suppose you could afford to spend only, say, $10,000
on a means of transportation.
Some people might like to have a high-maintenance
Jaguar high-miler which steers the way IT wants to
go rather than the way you turn the wheel, and
breaks down when you really need it.
And no telling who has been farting in the seats.
A few might like to get a used-up racehorse, for
the "challenge" of trying to make the mighty steed
perform some useful or flashy service.
Others, like me, would rather drive a well-maintained,
reliable car.
Remember, you can't have everything, where would you
put it? You can't have the FINEST, fanciest, most
reliable, sportiest car in the world, you MUST make
tradeoffs. It would be nice if my wife had a huge
income, but to choose a strong wealthy wife who is
inimical to my welfare would be the height of folly.

I drive a motorcycle, and I have fallen off a few
times, but it beats driving a horse - the motorcycle
doesn't try to make me fall off, and it doesn't try
to run me over when I do fall off.
I am in control.

ah_beng

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On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:33:12 -0800, Kuang-Yu Shih <sh...@haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:

knb what r u talking about !!!!


Questor

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In <5am6su$5...@news.fsu.edu> sam...@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (steven)
writes:
I don't think he was ignorant or NG protocol really. I mean, if he
looked at any ten other posts, he would have absolutely seen nothing
like what he posted. Especially in the other groups he cross-posted to.

Though the first above post was indeed very compassionate, and I do
admire you apparent faith in general human nature, I cannot share that
same attitude as I respect common sense moreso than anything. I infer
from his list of cross-posted groups that he doesn't even read some of
those NG's.Else he would have known just where to stick his post.

If I would have set up a post asking for the best place to find Philly
Style Cheesesteaks, would you assume that my misplaced post was due to
innocence of protocol or ignorance?

Ignorance :)

Later!

Kuang-Yu Shih

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On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 Ah@.MISSING-HOST-NAME. wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:33:12 -0800, Kuang-Yu Shih <sh...@haas.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
> knb what r u talking about !!!!
>
>
>

That's the joke. What is the point for him/her to post something in
language that people cannot understand?

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On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Larry Pendarvis wrote:

> Jonelle wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Larry Pendarvis wrote:
> >
> > > All he can find in the Personals are crummy Western women.
> >
> > Not all Western women are "crummy".
>
> No, but that's about all he'll find in the Personals.

And how do you know?

> > > What he did not know is that the decent women who really
> > > enjoy being married to Westerners do not have InterNet
> >
> > Oh really...what about a women who is a "Westerner"? It is possible that
> > she can also be happy with a fellow Westerner.
>
> Western women do not appreciate men.

Really....

> They do not value traditional family life.

Really....

> A recent study of Americans found that most married men
> are much happier than unmarried men...
> but the opposite is true for women.

Ok, so which study are you referring to? The world according to Larry?

> The goals of modern women are not sufficiently met by marriage.

What aer the goals of modern women?

> Marriage is not the right thing for them to do.
> It is not good for them.

"It is not good for them." So what is your point? Are they going to
come down with some sort of disease?

> Men must learn not to try to make these women do what they
> do not like.
> I am helping Modern Western Women to avoid what they despise.

Men must learn not to try to make ANY woman do what she does not like.

Your are correct about one thing: by having your mail-order Filipina
bride service, you are helping "modern Western Women" avoid what they
despise: you.

> > > access... these newsgroups are populated by donas who
> > > are going to Stanford on Daddy's money.
> >
> > Are you aware that many Asian women attend Stanford on Daddy's money?
> > And anyway, most people would be happy with a woman from Stanford. It
> > happens to be a very good school.
>
> I guess I meant Berkeley. Or Champaign-Urbana.

And your point is? Those are bad examples, as they are state schools.
If I am not mistaken, Berkeley has no tuition fee. Do correct me if I am
wrong.

> What does one call a full-figured bitch who has a
> Ph.D. in economics and is an astronaut doing
> physics research? A bitch.

A successful woman.

> Temperament is FAR more important to a happy
> marriage than is career competence.

Not true. Again, where do you find these results?

> Suppose you could afford to spend only, say, $10,000
> on a means of transportation.

Hey, that's more than I have.

> Some people might like to have a high-maintenance
> Jaguar high-miler which steers the way IT wants to
> go rather than the way you turn the wheel, and
> breaks down when you really need it.

What?

> And no telling who has been farting in the seats.

Your point being...?

> A few might like to get a used-up racehorse, for
> the "challenge" of trying to make the mighty steed
> perform some useful or flashy service.
> Others, like me, would rather drive a well-maintained,
> reliable car.

Get a Chevy then.

> Remember, you can't have everything, where would you
> put it?

Put what?

You can't have the FINEST, fanciest, most
> reliable, sportiest car in the world, you MUST make
> tradeoffs.

Of course you could.

It would be nice if my wife had a huge
> income, but to choose a strong wealthy wife who is
> inimical to my welfare would be the height of folly.

> I drive a motorcycle, and I have fallen off a few
> times,

I'm sorry ; did you hit your head?

but it beats driving a horse - the motorcycle
> doesn't try to make me fall off, and it doesn't try
> to run me over when I do fall off.
> I am in control.

You are in control of yourself, but you should not try to control other
people.

> --
> Larry Pendarvis
> http://www.Filipina.com
> Mail Order Brides from the Philippines
>
> "Censorship, like charity, should begin at home;
> but, unlike charity, it should end there."
> - Clare Boothe Luce
>
>

Jonelle**

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On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Barney Fife wrote:

> <snip>


>
> >> Temperament is FAR more important to a happy
> >> marriage than is career competence.
>
> >Not true. Again, where do you find these results?
>

> ...Perhaps in life? (the thing that happens after college).

Well, I must be one of the millions of exceptions who have experienced
"life".

> <snip>


>
> >> Others, like me, would rather drive a well-maintained,
> >> reliable car.
>
> >Get a Chevy then.
>

> A Chevy? If you love your mechanic. Better get a Toyota (WARNING:
> that makes you an Asiaphile!).

Well, I had an '89 Cavalier, that was the greatest car on the face of
this earth! And then it was sold...for the sake of education.

W. Bangs

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to

You know, we've aparantly allforgotten that PB doesn't have e-mail! A
possibility: there IS no Porter Benton, and this whole thing is the
brainchild of some researcher at some school who is studying interaction
on the internet! We all may be being imortalized in someone's academic
paper; in any case PB isn't getting burned by all our flames because
again, HE DOESN'T HAVE E-MAIL!

That being the case, once more: let's keep this off rec.travel.asia
please.


Herdy

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
to Simon J. Elliott

G'day,

I meant LOVERLY People.

My wife is Singaporean and this year I will be studying the Chinese
language at University.

Sin Nyin Kwai ler.

(Forgive the spelling, I write it as I say it.)

Cheers,
Herdy.

On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Simon J. Elliott wrote:

> On 7 Jan 1997, Herdy wrote:
>

> > Oriental people are ovely people.
> >

Chris Calvin Henry Kim

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.970107...@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu>
"..*^*.." <sto...@students.uiuc.edu> writes:

> Ok, so which study are you referring to? The world according to Larry?

That was an interesting study, but not as informative as the world
according to Ian.

Chris Calvin Henry Kim

Calvin...@Dartmouth.Edu | http://www.dartmouth.edu/~calvin/

"My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being,
with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with
productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only
absolute." - Ayn Rand. http://ios.org/

eng...@aol.com

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In article
<Pine.GSO.3.95.970108...@alinga.newcastle.edu.au>, Herdy
<c940...@alinga.newcastle.edu.au> writes:

>
>G'day,
>
>I meant LOVERLY People.
>
>

I assume you meant "Lovely" people, right?


El

ma...@ksc15.th.com

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On Tue, 07 Jan 1997 02:54:09 GMT, bo...@hotmail.com (bob) wrote:

>Hey dickhead:
> This is not AOL's Jewish moderated asian forum where 95% of posts
>are asiaphiles looking for AF, so do us a favor and kindly crawl back
>to your retarded cave.
>
>bob

I've read all the postings in response to Porter Benton's posting for
his Asian wife search including the one above from Bob. What amazes me
is yes, this guy may be going about it in the wrong way and although I
could be wrong, he doesn't sound like your stereotypical middle aged
American/European sex tourist, but the point is: guys like Bob and the
others who decided to lamb-baste this guy are pathetic. Bob's comment
sounds like its emulating from and imature underdeveloped grammar
school bully who reached puberty 2 years earlier than all the other
kids. Its like you are sitting there with nothing else to do than spew
your own frustrations onto a wounded animal. And Angel of Light's
comment is even further off the mark. And I quote:

"Althought the white men are bunch of ugly, fat, ball head or loosers;
the asian women and men are truely honest and sincere. Most of them
are beautiful and attractive. Of course, Asians are taught to be
honest. The White/Black Americans are not taught that ways. Most of
them lie even to themselves. The majority can't accept their own
look. Many ugly men or fat women post themselves as handsome,
attractive, etc. Beware!"

Where does this guy get off? There are so many incorrect statements in
the above posting I don't know where to start. For one white men
aren't a bunch of ugly, fat, bald headed losers. I am a white man and
dont fit into any of those categories. And as far as saying that Asian
women and men are honest and sincere is another broad based and
potentially false comment. I have seen and heard things living in
Thailand that may even make you think otherwise. And to suggest that
most of the ones who are not attractive looking cant accept their true
virtue is also false. I have observed many middle aged unattractive
sex tourists come to Bangkok in search of Asian girls/boys and who
don't claim to be something they are not. I'm not going to go on this
posting becuase this person (sounds like an Asian with a "bit" of
western education) is even further off than Porter Benton's posting.

As for Porter Benton's posting; yes a cultural newsgroup is not the
suitable place to post something like this, but given the fact that he
doesn't even have his own E-Mail address (having had his friend post
it for him) shows that he is inexperienced with the Internet in
general and doesn't know proper edicate for cultural newsgroups.
However, there is a WEB sight from an introduction service operation
located on one of the Hawaiian islands (forget the name but for some
reason I think the name includes the word "sun"), which is available
for people wanting this sort service. They appear to be professional
and they work at introducing the non-bar girl variety to foreginers
overseas. I think they also operate as just a correspondence service
for people who are not interested in forming a deep relationship of
sorts. If one where to search the Web I think one would find the one I
am referring to and many of these other type services. In addition, if
Porter Benton where to go about it the conventional way so to speak
(like many of the men who travel to Asia to find a wife) doesn't mean
he is going to find someone compatible or sincere within a 2 week to 2
month period. In fact he could marry someone and end up being totally
miserable.

Personally, I also agree via and Internet message or introduction
service is an unconventional way of meeting someone, but some people
are a bit socialy disfunctional and this offers them an easier means.
As for the flamers why don't you stick with the posters deserving of
flames and not the ones who are defensless to put out the fire.

Marc

Barney Fife

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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<snip>

>> Temperament is FAR more important to a happy
>> marriage than is career competence.

>Not true. Again, where do you find these results?

...Perhaps in life? (the thing that happens after college).

<snip>

>> Others, like me, would rather drive a well-maintained,
>> reliable car.

>Get a Chevy then.

A Chevy? If you love your mechanic. Better get a Toyota (WARNING:
that makes you an Asiaphile!).

<snip>

Simon J. Elliott

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
to Herdy

>
> Sin Nyin Kwai ler.
>
Xie Xie
SE


Donald Yee

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Jan 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/8/97
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In article <32D21A...@digital.net> u...@digital.net writes:

analogies of women to cars and horses and blah de blah mostly whining
about bitches and crap, and finishes w/...

>I am in control.

that's what he wants.
yoiks.

don


Enrico I. Pangan

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
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On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, bijapur wrote:

> Much the same thing happens in the USA. Many Asian women marrying
> American men, especially Koreans and Philipinas, are forced into
^ wrong spelling!

> prostitution once stateside.


Larry Pendarvis

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Jan 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/9/97
to

..*^*.. wrote: (Jonelle in disguise?)

>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Larry Pendarvis wrote:
>
> > No, but that's about all he'll find in the Personals.
>
> And how do you know?
>

Hey, that's my specialty!

I have this view on excellent authority,
aside from personal experience and observation.
In my own search for a wife, I tried going to a Video Dating service.
The owner was shocked when I told him
that I only wanted to get married, that I was not interested in
"dating."
He told me, YOU CAN'T TELL THEM THAT!
I said that it seemed to be what used to be called "honorable
intentions,"
but he told me that it was just considered a weird attitude by (Western)
women.
He was the expert, so I am sure he was correct.
This was ten years ago, and since AIDS has come along marriage is
considered a bit more
respectable these days, but it still isn't actively sought.

I became friendly with the owner of the Video Dating service during
these discussions, and he hired me to program his tracking and matching
functions.
I was able to see every aspect of the business,
and I realized that there really was not a chance that someone like me
could ever find a decent wife in the modern "dating" market, given what
the women were looking for and what I was looking for.

As it turns out, although I am an unattractive geek in the U.S.,
I am well-liked and, according to some, guapo in the Philippines.
I was even TALL when I was there. I've never been tall before.

> >
> > They do not value traditional family life.
>
> Really....
>

Yes really, I have read several times in this very
newsgroup that Filipinos have more regard for family
than Westerners. All of us know this is true,
why pretend you don't?

>
> Your are correct about one thing: by having your mail-order Filipina
> bride service, you are helping "modern Western Women" avoid what they
> despise: you.
>

Now see, this is an example of the hostility that
Western men so often encounter in their countrywomen.
I don't get that shit in the Philippines.


> > Temperament is FAR more important to a happy
> > marriage than is career competence.
>
> Not true. Again, where do you find these results?
>

Stands to reason.
You have a better chance of getting along with a
cooperative friendly affectionate girl than with
a strong, well-educated career woman who has an
inclination to rip your arms off.
That is TEMPERAMENT, and it has nothing to do
with workplace competence.

>
> You are in control of yourself, but you should not try to control other
> people.
>

Gee, I guess we have different tastes.

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