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Byker

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Feb 6, 2004, 5:42:28 PM2/6/04
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And chances are the FOP will force his reinstatement with back pay. The
moral of the story: Don't resist arrest, jigaboos, and you won't get
whopped....
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Today: February 06, 2004 at 12:55:12 PST

Brutality Charge Vs. Ex-L.A. Cop Dropped

LOS ANGELES (AP) - After two trials that ended in hung juries, prosecutors
dropped brutality charges Friday against a former police officer who was
videotaped slamming a handcuffed teenager onto a patrol car.

Prosecutors said they did not believe they could get a unanimous verdict in
a third trial for former Inglewood Officer Jeremy Morse.

Superior Court Judge William Hollingsworth Jr. agreed.

"I'm convinced that the chances of reaching a unanimous decision either way
is virtually nil. The case is dismissed," Hollingsworth said.

Last week, a jury deadlocked 6-6. In July, jurors in the first trial
deadlocked 7-5 in favor of conviction.

Morse, 26, who is white, was seen on the tape slamming a black teen, Donovan
Jackson, onto the trunk of a police car and punching him in the face at a
gas station in 2002.

The videotape was shot by a bystander. Although race was never mentioned in
the trials, the image of a white officer roughing up a black youth touched
off angry protests in Inglewood.

Morse was later fired. It was not immediately known whether he would seek
reinstatement.

Morse's attorney, John Barnett, said the key to the case was testimony from
various law enforcement officials that the use of force was justified.

"All of those people spoke with one voice and said the actions were
appropriate," Barnett said. "My client is relieved, as am I, that there
won't be further prosecution."

The confrontation occurred after Jackson's father was pulled over by Los
Angeles County sheriff's deputies for driving a car with expired tags.

Jackson's family said the teenager, then 16, may have responded slowly to
officers' orders because he has a learning disability.

Morse's attorney argued that his client had to make a quick decision about
how much force was needed to subdue a suspect who had already fought with
other officers.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2004/feb/06/020602947.html

Dissident

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Feb 7, 2004, 7:02:29 AM2/7/04
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I am offering $5,000 to anyone who will body-slam Jeremy Morse
face-first into a car.

W0...@true.org

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Feb 7, 2004, 2:33:48 PM2/7/04
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>...the teenigger, then 16, responded slowly to

>officers' orders because he has a learning disability.

Don't they all.


>

ridley1230

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Feb 7, 2004, 5:50:01 PM2/7/04
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Oh well whats new? Again its a white country what do you expect?
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brojack

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Feb 7, 2004, 6:01:48 PM2/7/04
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:50:01 GMT, "ridley1230" <efgr...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Oh well whats new? Again its a white country what do you expect?

Black/White Street Crime Ratios:

Murder/neg. msltr.: 5.39/1
Forcible Rape: 2.89/1
Robbery: 6.55/1
Aggravated assault: 2.88/1
Burglary: 2.45/1

The white crime data include Hispanic crime. If Hispanic crime were
removed from white data, the black/white ratio would be even more
extreme.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_00/00crime4.pdf
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Dissident

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Feb 7, 2004, 10:04:47 PM2/7/04
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brojack wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:50:01 GMT, "ridley1230" <efgr...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Oh well whats new? Again its a white country what do you expect?
>
>
> Black/White Street Crime Ratios:
>
> Murder/neg. msltr.: 5.39/1
> Forcible Rape: 2.89/1
> Robbery: 6.55/1
> Aggravated assault: 2.88/1
> Burglary: 2.45/1
>
> The white crime data include Hispanic crime. If Hispanic crime were
> removed from white data, the black/white ratio would be even more
> extreme.
>
> http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_00/00crime4.pdf

It would be interesting to see this data corrected for mean
income. Poor people steal on the street. Rich people steal
with a pen. Some people would rather have their entire
retirement account emptied by a nice-looking white guy in a
conservative suit than have just their wallet emptied by a
mean-looking black guy in a hooded sweatsuit. They are
welcome to think that, but not to drag me along with them.
I still want Ken Lay dead a whole lot more than I want some
street punk armed robber caught. And I've offered money
before to take care of what the government can't seem to.
Death for Ken Lay! Five years for street robbers!

AlleyCat

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Feb 7, 2004, 10:12:05 PM2/7/04
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In article <tYdVb.6038$M8....@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>, efgr1230
@hotmail.com says...

> Oh well whats new? Again its a white country what do you expect?
> "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
> news:oLUUb.14106$F23....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

"WE" expect our citizenry to act responsibly and do what the Police ask
you to do with NO resistance. Have you ever resisted arrest? No? Then
you are probably NOT a candidate for alleged "brutality"... whatever
your color. If I resist, I get my ass kicked, no questions, no lawsuits,
NO POLICE BRUTALITY!... I probably deserved it, as did "Mr." Jackson.
Learning disability? No. He was taught from an early age to distrust and
loathe the Police, only because some of his "friends" and acquaintances
have had "run-ins" with the Police, BECAUSE THEY DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL!

Al

jaonajames

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Feb 7, 2004, 11:38:53 PM2/7/04
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"Dissident" <qq...@7600.net> wrote in message news:4025A7...@7600.net...

> brojack wrote:
> > On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:50:01 GMT, "ridley1230" <efgr...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Oh well whats new? Again its a white country what do you expect?
> >
> >
> > Black/White Street Crime Ratios:
> >
> > Murder/neg. msltr.: 5.39/1
> > Forcible Rape: 2.89/1
> > Robbery: 6.55/1
> > Aggravated assault: 2.88/1
> > Burglary: 2.45/1
> >
> > The white crime data include Hispanic crime. If Hispanic crime were
> > removed from white data, the black/white ratio would be even more
> > extreme.
> >
> > http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_00/00crime4.pdf
>
> It would be interesting to see this data corrected for mean
> income. Poor people steal on the street.

there is no reason to live in poverty in America

Rich people steal
> with a pen.

more retarded statements from an idiot

Some people would rather have their entire
> retirement account emptied by a nice-looking white guy in a
> conservative suit

how many people do you know that have invested with the least bit of wisdom
have lost thier life savings?


than have just their wallet emptied by a
> mean-looking black guy in a hooded sweatsuit.

the stockmarket has never murdered anybody. The mean looking nigger may kill
you. more stupid uneducated comparisons although this post is humorous it
still has no bearing on the market as a whole .

They are
> welcome to think that, but not to drag me along with them.

no because you'd rather be robbed or rob some one than have a chance at a
real life

> I still want Ken Lay dead a whole lot more than I want some
> street punk armed robber caught

most criminally oriented people feel this way, when Regan and Brady were
shot it was announced in the auditorium where I went to school and the nigs
and spics applauded. This is nothing new, it is common for people of a
certain class to wish for and rejoice in the death of people of higher
standing.


. And I've offered money

ya well 50 cents does not buy much

> before to take care of what the government can't seem to.

more coon talk, we have all heard the nig and wig threats

> Death for Ken Lay! Five years for street robbers!

killing half of the street robbers would result through diminished taxation
for incarceration and unprecedented economic up turn.


The Pervert

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Feb 8, 2004, 2:34:53 AM2/8/04
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"A.Melon" <ju...@melontraffickers.com> wrote in message
news:P6iVb.2290$_4...@www.newsranger.com...
> In article <MPG.1a8f647a...@news-server.jam.rr.com>, AlleyCat
> says...

> >
> >"WE" expect our
> citizenry to act responsibly and do what the Police ask
> >you to do with NO
> resistance. Have you ever resisted arrest? No? Then
> >you are probably NOT a
> candidate for alleged "brutality"... whatever
> >your color. If I resist, I get
> my ass kicked, no questions, no lawsuits,
> >NO POLICE BRUTALITY!... I probably
> deserved it, as did "Mr." Jackson.
> >Learning disability? No. He was taught from
> an early age to distrust and
> >loathe the Police, only because some of his
> "friends" and acquaintances
> >have had "run-ins" with the Police, BECAUSE THEY
> DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL!
> >
> >Al
> >
>
>
> It sounds like you support police brutality and the
> abuse of authority. That sounds criminal itself.

Where did he say that? Care to quote where anybody said they supported
police brutality or the abuse of authority?

Maybe you read something that didn't exist. Maybe prejudiced people do
that.


William J. Wolfe

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Feb 8, 2004, 7:26:43 AM2/8/04
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Dissident <qq...@7600.net> wrote in message news:<4024D3DA...@7600.net>...

>
> I am offering $5,000 to anyone who will body-slam Jeremy Morse
> face-first into a car.

What's up, nigger boy, too piss weak to do the job yourself?

Or maybe its because you have the mouth but not the cash.

BroJack

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Feb 8, 2004, 7:32:42 AM2/8/04
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In the first place, the black-white income gap would narrow if the
black male would stay home and support his woman and the babies they
have made, rather than running all over town making new welfare
babies, thus creating new poverty pockets and statistics.

Secondly, you blame their crime rate on socioeconomics; does this
excuse obtain also for their 70% out of welock rate, 60+%
single-parent rate, 46% genital herpes rate ....?

Thirdly, in a study of NFL millionaires, it was found that both black
and white players commit street crime at rates only slight less than
the street crime rates in their respective general populations.

Kinda defeats your socioeconomics excuse, eh?

BroJack

COL RSJ

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Feb 8, 2004, 12:00:24 PM2/8/04
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On 8 Feb 2004 04:26:43 -0800, w_j_wo...@yahoo.com (William J.
Wolfe) wrote:

I'm glad the cop got off. In themilitary if that sproglet had grabbed
my nuts, we would have let him have a serious accident.


--

"Conan, what is best in life?''

''To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.''

COL RSJ

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Feb 8, 2004, 12:00:25 PM2/8/04
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:50:01 GMT, "ridley1230" <efgr...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Oh well whats new? Again its a white country what do you expect?

Yeah, it might have been in Africa and then the kaffir kid would have
been necklaced for grabbing the cops privates.

--

COL RSJ

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Feb 8, 2004, 12:00:26 PM2/8/04
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 03:04:47 GMT, Dissident <qq...@7600.net> wrote:

Maybe cause the white guy won't leave they in the street gut shot for
only having 20 bucks on them. Alive you can sue to get your money
back.

AlleyCat

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Feb 8, 2004, 1:28:05 PM2/8/04
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In article <P6iVb.2290$_4....@www.newsranger.com>,
ju...@melontraffickers.com says...

> In article <MPG.1a8f647a...@news-server.jam.rr.com>, AlleyCat
> says...
> >
> >"WE" expect our
> citizenry to act responsibly and do what the Police ask
> >you to do with NO
> resistance. Have you ever resisted arrest? No? Then
> >you are probably NOT a
> candidate for alleged "brutality"... whatever
> >your color. If I resist, I get
> my ass kicked, no questions, no lawsuits,
> >NO POLICE BRUTALITY!... I probably
> deserved it, as did "Mr." Jackson.
> >Learning disability? No. He was taught from
> an early age to distrust and
> >loathe the Police, only because some of his
> "friends" and acquaintances
> >have had "run-ins" with the Police, BECAUSE THEY
> DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL!
> >
> >Al
> >
>
>
> It sounds like you support police brutality and the
> abuse of authority. That sounds criminal itself.


No... it's SOUNDS like you need to go back to school and take a remedial
course in English Comp. Not Composition... but comprehension.

Al

AlleyCat

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Feb 8, 2004, 1:29:46 PM2/8/04
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In article <xElVb.197156$Rc4.1659717@attbi_s54>, pervert12
@spambad.yahoo.com says...

Thank you. I posted a response before reading yours and said exactly the
same thing. Liberals ARE the most prejudiced "people".

Al

Stan de SD

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Feb 8, 2004, 3:33:11 PM2/8/04
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(reference to AFN dropped from the headers - not productive to the
discussion...)

"Dissident" <qq...@7600.net> wrote in message news:4025A7...@7600.net...

Ken Lay hasn't killed anyone, nor do 25% of all white-collar caucasian males
have criminal records.

Just out of curiosity, what are the crime statistics for poor Asian
immigrants? That would be an interesting comparison.


Stan de SD

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Feb 8, 2004, 3:37:16 PM2/8/04
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"A.Melon" <ju...@melontraffickers.com> wrote in message
news:P6iVb.2290$_4...@www.newsranger.com...
> In article <MPG.1a8f647a...@news-server.jam.rr.com>, AlleyCat
> says...
> >
> >"WE" expect our
> citizenry to act responsibly and do what the Police ask
> >you to do with NO
> resistance. Have you ever resisted arrest? No? Then
> >you are probably NOT a
> candidate for alleged "brutality"... whatever
> >your color. If I resist, I get
> my ass kicked, no questions, no lawsuits,
> >NO POLICE BRUTALITY!... I probably
> deserved it, as did "Mr." Jackson.
> >Learning disability? No. He was taught from
> an early age to distrust and
> >loathe the Police, only because some of his
> "friends" and acquaintances
> >have had "run-ins" with the Police, BECAUSE THEY
> DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL!
> >
> >Al
>
> It sounds like you support police brutality and the
> abuse of authority. That sounds criminal itself.

It sounds like you have a reading comprehension problem, since the argument
was not in FAVOR of such behavior. The original poster merely mentioned that
resisting arrest might be a significant factor in the type of treatment one
gets from the cops. You have an argument otherwise?

(BTW, didn't the incident in question happen in Inglewood, not Los Angeles
proper?)


Cole Irons

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Feb 8, 2004, 4:18:13 PM2/8/04
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x-no-archive: yes

There are no reporters on the tarmac at Dover Air Force Base.
The public is not allowed to witness the military tradition of
"receiving the remains." Instead, there are soldiers, roused at
dark hours to stand in the confines of what seems like a secret
as the dead are brought home.

I am one of the soldiers. Nearly every day we learn of another death in
Iraq. In our collective consciousness, we tally the statistics of dead and
wounded. The number is over 500 now. But none of our conjurings are
as real and tangible as the Stars and Stripes folded perfectly over a
coffin cradling one of those statistics on his or her way home.

It does not matter where somebody stands politically on the war, but I
believe that all who have an opinion should know the cost of that
opinion. When a soldier dies in a foreign land, his or her remains are
returned to the United States for their final rest. The remains arrive in
Dover, Del., without fanfare. No family member is present. There are
no young children to feel sad or confused. Just a small group of
soldiers waiting to do their duty and honor the fallen.

"Dover flights" are met by soldiers from the U.S. Army's 3rd Infantry
Regiment, the storied Old Guard. They are true soldiers, assigned to
an esteemed regiment, but it is a unit defined by polish, not mud. It
seems that they quietly long to be tested with their comrades "over
there." But it is clear to me as I watch them that they find immense
pride in honoring their country this way.

Silence. I am a helicopter pilot in the U.S. Army, and it is my job to
have the honor guard at Dover at whatever hour a flight arrives. In
military-speak, the plane's grim contents are referred to as "HRs"--
"human remains." Once the plane arrives, conversation ends. The
soldiers form a squad of two even ranks and march out to the tarmac.
A general follows, flanked by a chaplain and the ranking representative
from the service in which the fallen soldier served.

The plane's cargo door opens slowly revealing a cavernous space. The
honor guard steps onto a mobile platform that is raised to the cargo
bay. The soldiers enter in lock-step formation and place themselves on
both sides of the casket. The squad lifts, the soldiers buckling slightly
under the weight. The remains have been packed on ice into metal
containers that can easily exceed 500 pounds. The squad moves
slowly back onto the elevated platform and deposits the casket with a
care that evokes an image of fraternal empathy. It is the only emotion
they betray, but their gentleness is unmistakable and compelling. The
process continues until the last casket is removed from the plane. On
bad nights, this can take over an hour. The few of us observing say
nothing, the silence absolute, underscored by something sacred. There
is no rule or order that dictates it, but the silence is maintained with a
discipline that needs no command.

The caskets are lowered together to the earth, where the soldiers lift
them into a van, one by one. The doors close, and the squad moves
out. Just before the van rounds the corner, someone speaks in a voice
just above a whisper. We snap to and extend a sharp salute.
There are those who would politicize this scene, making it the device of
an argument over the freedom of the press. But if this scene were ever
to be exploited by the lights and cameras of our "infotainment" industry,
it would be offensive. Still, the story must be told. A democracy's
lifeblood, after all, is an informed citizenry, and this image is nowhere in
the public mind. The men and women arriving in flag-draped caskets
do not deserve the disrespect of arriving in the dark confines of
secrecy. But it is a soldier's story, and it must be told through a soldier's
eyes. In the military, we seldom discuss whether we are for or against
the war. Instead, we know intimately its cost. For those of us standing
on the tarmac at Dover in those still and inky nights, our feelings have
nothing to do with politics. They are feelings of sadness, of empathy.
And there is nothing abstract about them.


The Pervert

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SUPERB piece!


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