I would just like to say, that it is extremely unfair to compare the
shape of black women to that of a white woman. I am not saying that you
are!!!I am considered overweight by black men where I am from, but I
found when I travel black men in other areas tend to think I am thin.
For the record, I know that I am not overweight. I do have thicker
thighs then most white women. That is because it is my genes but also
because I played soccer for 12 years and have alot of muscle in my leg.
Black men from where I live like to compare the body of a black women to
the that of a white women. No, a great many of us don't have a flat
ass and stick shaped legs. I think that it is very superficial for any
black man to date white women because they prefer skinny women. So I
disagree with you that it is logical for black man who likes thin women
to date white women. Black men grew up around black women who tend to
be thicker than the average white women. So you have to wonder, where
did this love for thin women come from?? From my experiences black men
who truly love black women also love a thick woman. The black men that
I have encountered that dating predominately white women liked small
thin women.
Anyways my point is from the way that I look it really isn't the thin
woman that a brother desires it is the white woman.
If guys prefer women who will subject themselves to osteoporosis, fertility
problems, loss of hair, immune problems, etc... just to boost their ego by
being an "arm charm" so be it.
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yes! why don't women just stop being the "sex object" and aim for being the
"success object" like we notice men to be? I have not really heard much
about why everyone is suddenly calling Oprah a "bitch" but my nearest guess
would be because she doesn't give a %^&* about anyone but rather does some
descent work to earn some living. (sorry if I'm wrong about that, but you
certainly get the scope.)
gov.ns.ca? Is this a California or Canadian organization? You may want
to enter the header of the previous thread in the subject line so we
all know what it is you're responding to.
>DA
>
>I would just like to say, that it is extremely unfair to compare the
>shape of black women to that of a white woman.
What the hell are you talking about?
>I am not saying that you
>are!!!I am considered overweight by black men where I am from, but I
>found when I travel black men in other areas tend to think I am thin.
>For the record, I know that I am not overweight. I do have thicker
>thighs then most white women. That is because it is my genes but also
>because I played soccer for 12 years and have alot of muscle in my leg.
>Black men from where I live like to compare the body of a black women to
>the that of a white women.
You talk as if black women are genetically prone to being fat. The
differences in weight are because of the differences in diet. The
black diet contains more saturated fats. Whether you consider fat to
be desirable physically doens't change the fact that it's still
unhealthy. Blacks die about 5 years or so sooner than whites, maybe
even more, and this probably because of the higher fat diet.
>No, a great many of us don't have a flat
>ass and stick shaped legs.
That's more descriptive of Asian women. As far as rears, I don't find
the blacks woman's to be too big, nor the white woman's to be to flat,
they both look adequate to me on average. Btw, I think Asian women
have the best shaped legs of all women, at least from the calf down,
they never have hair on them and never any scars it seems.
>I think that it is very superficial for any
>black man to date white women because they prefer skinny women.
Did I say this?
>So I
>disagree with you that it is logical for black man who likes thin women
>to date white women. Black men grew up around black women who tend to
>be thicker than the average white women. So you have to wonder, where
>did this love for thin women come from?? From my experiences black men
>who truly love black women also love a thick woman.
Actually I like voluptious women as much as I like thin women, but
there's a difference between voluptious and fat.
>The black men that
>I have encountered that dating predominately white women liked small
>thin women.
>
>Anyways my point is from the way that I look it really isn't the thin
>woman that a brother desires it is the white woman.
Good grief! The meticulous logic I encounter in this group daily is
unparalleled.
--
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>yes! why don't women just stop being the "sex object" and aim for being the
>"success object" like we notice men to be?
I didn't ask women to be "sex objects." But I do admire a woman that
values her femininity, is not ashamed of acting like a lady, and wants
to be pretty. Of course she has to have brains and a personality or I
wouldn't be interested, but I'm not into this whole rap about women
not giving a damn about how they look to just to please men. It's the
women that DO care about looking feminine that get the men.
> I have not really heard much
>about why everyone is suddenly calling Oprah a "bitch"
Haven't heard this.
>but my nearest guess
>would be because she doesn't give a %^&* about anyone but rather does some
>descent work to earn some living.
I think she's got a little more than a "good living," now she probably
needs a good f***.
hardly any women are ashamed to act like ladies, but there might be some who
do *not* want to, but are afraid of what society would think. Then they aim
to get the men, with who they really are, suffering in a shadow. Who says
everyone must like you? Owell, if having a life depends on not what you, but
someone else thinks, then the resultant life must be really moronic.
I'm not a member of the weight police--I realize that it is possible to be
naturally very thin. However, I think that if we looked at most of these
actresses in Hollywood (not to mention the models) without the makeup, hair
extensions, photo retouching, etc... that is de reguier in the industry it
would scare us all to death. Women are killing themselves to meet a
unattainable goal. The worst part of this is that without sufficient body
fat a woman is both infertile and doesn't think very clearly. The fact that
women are willing to give up both their minds and fecundity in pursuit of
this madness is very frightening to me.
In article <72teb6$42g$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>,
"Gurl Power!" <gurlp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <roz...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >If guys prefer women who will subject themselves to osteoporosis, fertility
> >problems, loss of hair, immune problems, etc... just to boost their ego by
> >being an "arm charm" so be it.
>
> yes! why don't women just stop being the "sex object" and aim for being the
> "success object" like we notice men to be? I have not really heard much
> about why everyone is suddenly calling Oprah a "bitch" but my nearest guess
> would be because she doesn't give a %^&* about anyone but rather does some
> descent work to earn some living. (sorry if I'm wrong about that, but you
> certainly get the scope.)
>
>
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I am from Canada and i am kind of getting tired of your shit. You gotta
damn comment for everything I say. Do you even have a job, because you
have so much time to pick a part everything everybody elses says. I
responded to the garbage you wrote me the otherday, but what a suprise
your e-mail address isn't even real.
As a matter of fact I know that my figure has nothing to do with
saturated fat. I don't and have never eaten fatty foods because I have
always been into sports. So what you want to say now!
>Btw, I think Asian women have the best shaped legs of all women, at
least from the calf down, they never have hair on them and never any
scars it seems.
Who cares if you think Asian women have the best shaped legs of all.
"never have hair on them"? THere you go generalizing again. How many
of their legs have you ever even seen? I am truly sorry that I played
soccer for 12 years and you don't find my scars attractive. I wish I
had of known how you felt back when I was 8 years old.
How can you like voluptous women the same as those that are thin? They
are the complete opposite, Anyways my point is that brothers where I am
from see voluptous as "Pamela Anderson" and thin as "Cindy Crawford".
In my eyes both of those women are thin and one just has some fake tits.
I consider "Jennifer Lopez" as voluptous. A woman that has a nice
shaped legs, thighs and ass.
I guess you just like to disagree with everyone for a hobby.
>Devil's Advocate
>
>I am from Canada and i am kind of getting tired of your shit.
You may want to watch your language when using a government server...
>You gotta
>damn comment for everything I say.
Well, jack, that's what usenet if for...
> Do you even have a job, because you
>have so much time to pick a part everything everybody elses says. I
>responded to the garbage you wrote me the otherday, but what a suprise
>your e-mail address isn't even real.
huh? Well, it's probably because you forgot to remove the spamblock,
why some people don't figure this out is beyond me, it's in the sig as
clear as day.
>
>As a matter of fact I know that my figure has nothing to do with
>saturated fat.
Are you a man or woman?
>I don't and have never eaten fatty foods because I have
>always been into sports. So what you want to say now!
Can't say anything since I haven't seen you, I'm talking the majority
of people.
>How can you like voluptous women the same as those that are thin? They
>are the complete opposite,
The difference between fat and voluptious, is that voluptious women
although a bit chunky still or a bit heavy still have that hour glass
shape with a smaller waist and wider hips and bust. Whereas a fat
woman doens't. I'd be pretty damn happy with a thin or voluptious
woman, it's that hour glass shape that most turns me on, a smaller
waist and a stomach that doesn't bulge.
>Anyways my point is that brothers where I am
>from see voluptous as "Pamela Anderson" and thin as "Cindy Crawford".
I hate Anderson and love Crawford. I wouldn't call Crawford skinny,
she's pretty much perfect, although I'd say Tyra Banks has a better
body than her.
>In my eyes both of those women are thin and one just has some fake tits.
>I consider "Jennifer Lopez" as voluptous. A woman that has a nice
>shaped legs, thighs and ass.
I'm not sure what Lopez looks like, I rarely go to movies or watch tv.
But to me, it's the nice figure that's most important, I don't mind a
little fat as long as it isn't cellulose or hanging over her belt. Of
course I'd still date a woman like this if she had a personality I
liked enough(I'm not all about looks), but I'm talking about what I'd
consider to be my ideal.
>
>I guess you just like to disagree with everyone for a hobby.
They don't call me "The Devil's Advocate" for nothing. :^)
> He
>said that he preferred women who look like Calista Flockhart. As we all know
>there have been disturbing stories in the media that Calista, (Ally McBeal)
>is suffering from an eating disorder. When we reach a point where men prefer
>a woman who looks as unhealthy as she does, to one who simply has a "womanly"
>figure there is something desperately wrong.
I would point out that the disturbing stories about Calista come from the fact
that most people that look at her think she is anoerexic, even though she claims
not to be.. and I think that every other woman on that show is better, and
healthier looking, including the curvaceous Lisa Nicole Carson, who could be
seen as a counterpoint to Calista.
Howard's audience is moronic, and actually tends towards the big-breasted
Baywatch types, like Pamela Anderson Lee with her giant silicone breasts. I am
surprised that anyone would find Calista an ideal on Howard's show, and am also
surprised that you would take anything you hear on that show as indicative of
anything. It is just a different universe.
And not every guy likes the same thing, in this universe.
- Roger
heheh.. most guys like the thin ones :)
hehe! we can all have fun in here, can't we? :)
And yeah, that email is truly crazy. The part before the organization can be
crap, but the part after is usually something serious. hehe.. =)
You speak as if you could differenciate between either.
We know better.
> >I am not saying that you
> >are!!!I am considered overweight by black men where I am from, but I
> >found when I travel black men in other areas tend to think I am thin.
>
> Travel? You consider going down the street to score some crack
> traveling?
Again, you compare everthing to the limited world you live in.
We understand.
[cut all the juvenile and piss-poor attemps at humor]
> > Black men from where I live like to compare the body of a black women to
> >the that of a white women.
>
> Hmmm, never met a Canadian nigger before.
You still haven't. (You'd have to Canada and look in the mirror --
hoping it would break)
> I didn't think...
So, what else is new?
> >No, a great many of us don't have a flat
> >ass and stick shaped legs.
>
> Obviously emaciation from heavy crack abuse.
That's your answer to everything! Do yourself a favor and come up with
somethin' fresh, why don' cha?!?!?
Crack, crack, crack. Crack, crack, crack. You sound like a chicken
that's got his cluckin' out of joint.
Put the pipe down just for a couple of minutes and you might be able to
come up with one witty reply!!
Oops I forgot whom I was speaking with -- even sober, your words are as
flat as yesterday's beer.
> >I think that it is very superficial for any
> >black man to date white women because they prefer skinny women.
> ^^^^^^
> You misspelled superior.
No, you just have a reading comprehension problem (on top of everything
else).
We've seen it before in this neck of the woods, but really, there's no
need for you to point it out, it's as clear as day.
> ...pointless.
Yep. That's exactly what you are.
> vapor
Kara "you mean vapor-less"
>Howard's audience is moronic,
I've only seen Stern's show on E! channel a couple of times, and he
had a regular network show at one point I saw a few times, and I must
agree that he appeals to the lowest common denominator.
When I am asked if I like small women or large women, I answer; Yes!
SEE YA!
>Just like it's unfair to compare a flawless pearl to a lump of shit.
>
Sure is unfair to compare a Black pearl to a lump of dried white shit. See,
you're getting closer to understanding, but then again, I guess it's rough
when you want to hide after calling me "master" and your "superior", or
maybe you meant you thought I was superior to all whites, you know that
is an alternative interpretation I never thought of.
-art clemons-
>I have not really heard much
>about why everyone is suddenly calling Oprah a "bitch" but my nearest guess
>would be because she doesn't give a %^&* about anyone
Last thing I heard was that she gave that man 50% of Harpo..!! I am talking
about the man who wont marry her...
Hanji
>I would just like to say, that it is extremely unfair to compare the
>shape of black women to that of a white woman.
unfair to who? Fact. Black women have by far the best shape of any females
anywhere under the sun!! I suspect that this is such a fundamental truth that
it would still hold even if alien women were included in the comparison..
> I am not saying that you
>are!!!I am considered overweight by black men where I am from, but I
>found when I travel black men in other areas tend to think I am thin.
Why are you apologetic? Are you straight like a ruler and without significant
mammalian endowment??
>For the record, I know that I am not overweight. I do have thicker
>thighs then most white women. That is because it is my genes but also
>because I played soccer for 12 years and have alot of muscle in my leg.
You are beutiful after all!! What you are describing is the highly desirable
attribute called 'leggy'. An essential requirement for a woman to be called
beutiful..If white people
must be thin, it is because they'reamorphous to start with. Any little
accumulation of mass distorts what little shape they might have. This business
about weight is race-subjective. Black peopleare excellently defined where
gender charactestics are concerned. A man looks like a man and a woman looks
like a woman. All this BS about buns of steel and thin thighs is anthema
concocted by people who realise how lost their cause is....Who wants a woman
with a hard butt? Come on!! What is man going to have, then?
>Black men from where I live like to compare the body of a black women to
>the that of a white women. No, a great many of us don't have a flat
>ass and stick shaped legs.
This just reinforces the Goebbelian principle!!
If you repeat a lie enough times people begin to assume it as a truth.. If you
allow the American media to victimise you, in time you will begin to think the
white woman is god's gift to the earth Before I came here 10 years ago, my
friends who had been here 10 years or more told stories about the beuty of
white
women. And I arrived here (Pennsylvania)
I was less than impressed. The white women all looked like an assemblage of
wrong parts. Their calves were too big and their thighs too small. Their limbs
(legs and arms) were too
short. Their buts were long and flat. They
elongated necks, sunken mouths, jutting chins
and risen foreheads. Everything seemed so wrong. What's more, they were on
average
smaller than black women and their breasts
were smaller than any I had seen on any woman older than 13!
..In retrospect I am not saying that I was right. I am sure that a person who
had lived in this country saw things in a totally different way.
> I think that it is very superficial for any
>black man to date white women because they prefer skinny women.
No not because he prefers a skinny woman. But because he prefers a white woman.
Other
wise he would find himself any anorexic black
woman.
> So I
>disagree with you that it is logical for black man who likes thin women
>to date white women.
absolutely.
> Black men grew up around black women who tend to
>be thicker than the average white women. >So you have to wonder, where
I have heard that white women are easier to deal with.
>did this love for thin women come from?? From my experiences black men
>who truly love black women also love a thick woman. The black men that
>I have encountered that dating predominately white women liked small
>thin women.
The way to know what the female fantasy of a man is to read comic books. In
particular X -rated comic books because their men depict
women as they want them in their sweetest wet
dream. 99% of all comics depict women in the
proportions of a white women. Absent social
pressures, there are not too many men who prefer a nail.
>Anyways my point is from the way that I look it really isn't the thin
>woman that a brother desires it is the white >woman.
I can't argue with you.
Finally I write this not out of racist chauvinism, but because it is the
observed truth. If they can write the Bell Curve, why can't we also say these
truths? At least ours are provable.
Han
so is she a talk-show host or your latest "soap-Oprah" star?
Roger Brown
bro...@erols.com wrote
>I would point out that the disturbing stories about
>Calista come from the fact that most people that look
>at her think she is anoerexic, even though she claims
>not to be.. and I think that every other woman on that
>show is better, and healthier looking, including the
>curvaceous Lisa Nicole Carson, who could be
>seen as a counterpoint to Calista.
>- Roger
Lisa Nicole Carson is the physical "counterpoint" to Calista Flockhart, and
a very attractive actress with notable talent. She
even sings better than their regular. She's also quite sexy, like an
African queen. She is one of the main reasons why I watch the show, but I
find it very frustrating because as Ally's opposite she is usually
reduced to acting scenes that support Ally. She seems to be one of
the most underplayed actresses on the screen right now, and I think
that she is being very deliberately eclipsed because she is indeed
Ally's counterpoint. Calista is already getting a lot of flack because
she is so thin and er... flat. This necessitates insecurity toward the
voluptuous, full breasted member of the cast.
>You missed an opening in my above statement, too bad.
You leave so many holes, but I guess somebody into bondage and a masochist,
who goes around insulting African-American males so that they'll get excited
would have a lot of extra holes where you have them. Do something about
that body odor though, Your African heritage neighbors are starting to really
complain. Look, calling me "master" and your "superior" ain't all that bad,
but the stench complaints from your neighbors mean that you won't be
able to attract any men soon.
-art clemons-
>Ooooo, a yo mamma lame, how quaint. Run along before you stub your
>brain, little Gurl.
Damn, you know, fools were probably trying lines like yours in the 30's.
Of course considering the source, and your need for education, maybe
you can graduate to 2nd grade if you keep on going back to school
Of course, teachers don't like that bondage stuff you seem to favor,
and they can't keep whips to hit you with in class anymore either now
that corporal punishment has disappeared, so you lost interest did you?
I told you before though, try advertising your perversions in the personal
ads in the newspaper, I believe they take ads by phone, so you won't
have to figure out how to type it. Remember, even though I'm your
"superior" according to you and your "master", I'm not into sado-masochism
or bondage, so you're looking in wrong newsgroup. You might want to
try alt.bondage, but you got to do something about that sewage smell.
-art clemons-
<SNIP>
now he's lost everything. He used to know how to troll, but now he cannot
even do that. I hate to hear of people loosing they last thing they had!
<sniff!> :~)
I'm smarter than you can ever be in a thousand years =)
: Just like it's unfair to compare a flawless pearl to a lump of shit.
Wow... who would have imagined this racist troll thinking that Black
women are flawless pearls and White women are "lumps of shit"...
: >I think that it is very superficial for any
: >black man to date white women because they prefer skinny women.
^^^^^^
: You misspelled superior.
Nope. Dan Quayle she isn't... Besides, I thought racists like you
don't like Black men dating White women.
: >So I disagree with you that it is logical for black man who likes thin
: >women to date white women. Black men grew up around black women who
: >tend to be thicker than the average white women. So you have to wonder,
: >where did this love for thin women come from?? From my experiences black
: >men who truly love black women also love a thick woman. The black men
: >that I have encountered that dating predominately white women liked
: >small thin women.
: Why would anybody, black or white, want to date a big stinky, sweaty,
: she-ape?
I don't know. I guess that's why humans, Black or White (or any
other skin color) date humans.
: >Anyways my point is...
: ...pointless.
Funny, coming from someone for whom the only point he has is on his
head.
Phil Kasiecki
--
Philip T. Kasiecki
pkas...@ieee.org
http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/p/pkasieck/
"Life is not important except in the impact it has on others' lives."
-Jackie Robinson
LOL! That bit made me larf. Camp or what?
But isn't that a lump of shit with a big fat arse?
> In article <36592024...@news.alt.net>,
> vapor (ant...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> : On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:11:29 -0800, JM <shav...@gov.ns.ca> wrote:
> : >DA
> : >
> : >I would just like to say, that it is extremely unfair to compare the
> : >shape of black women to that of a white woman.
>
> : Just like it's unfair to compare a flawless pearl to a lump of shit.
>
> Wow... who would have imagined this racist troll thinking that Black
> women are flawless pearls and White women are "lumps of shit"...
Actually,he is doing the reverse,but that means he is still as stupid
as ever.
> : >I think that it is very superficial for any
> : >black man to date white women because they prefer skinny women.
> ^^^^^^
> : You misspelled superior.
>
> Nope. Dan Quayle she isn't... Besides, I thought racists like you
> don't like Black men dating White women.
No one accused racists of being intelligent.
> : >So I disagree with you that it is logical for black man who likes thin
> : >women to date white women. Black men grew up around black women who
> : >tend to be thicker than the average white women. So you have to wonder,
> : >where did this love for thin women come from?? From my experiences black
> : >men who truly love black women also love a thick woman. The black men
> : >that I have encountered that dating predominately white women liked
> : >small thin women.
>
> : Why would anybody, black or white, want to date a big stinky, sweaty,
> : she-ape?
>
> I don't know. I guess that's why humans, Black or White (or any
> other skin color) date humans.
>
> : >Anyways my point is...
>
> : ...pointless.
>
> Funny, coming from someone for whom the only point he has is on his
> head.
You forgot to mention the point on the white hood that he wears on his head.
Michael
CSU College Republicans
Q: How do you separate the men from the boys in the National Alliance?
A: Use a crowbar.
_
They have a cool Easter tradition in the Phillipines, that I'd like to see
adapted to your idea. They nail a **real human** to a cross! And they have
all kinds of volunteers for the honor. Think how much fun if we could do
this in our own homes at Xmas. As we celebrate & drink festive eggnog, we
can let him drink vinegar and jab him in the side with a fireplace poker.
Deck the halls!
>'Course, a few Xmas carols, such as "Oh Christmas Tree", will have to be
>re-written...
>
>"Oh Jesus Cross" (to the tune of "Oh Christmas Tree")
>
>Oh Jesus Cross, Oh Jesus Cross,
>Thou are so sick and repulsive.
>Oh Jesus Cross, Oh Jesus Cross,
>Thou are so sick and repulsive.
>The sight of thee at Christmas-tide
>Spreads tears and sadness far and wide.
>Oh Jesus Cross, Oh Jesus Cross,
>Thou are so sick and repulsive.
>
>Oh Jesus Cross, Oh Jesus Cross,
>Thou hast a cautious message.
>Oh Jesus Cross, Oh Jesus Cross,
>Thou hast a cautious message.
>Thou dost proclaim a turd's demise,
>The result of acting falsely wise.
>Oh Jesus Cross, Oh Jesus Cross,
>Thou hast a cautious message.
>
>Oh Jesus Cross, Oh Jesus Cross,
>You are so cold and forboding.
>Oh Jesus Cross, Oh Jesus Cross,
>We sing with real deep loathing.
>The gloom of this awful night,
>Robs all of us of hope and light.
>Oh Jesus Cross, Oh Jesus Cross,
>You are so cold and forboding.