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Rory B

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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Let me start by saying that the amout of racial crap out here in this
newsgroup is outrageous. I though that social-culture-asian-american was
bad, but this group is disgusting for it's racial attacks.

I'm a white guy who thinks that O.J. was framed -- big time!

The issue of the Bruno Malli (sp?) shoes has been making me crazy since
it first came up in the criminal trial. There is an obvious answer that
I have never heard anyone bring up, so I will offer my opinion:

I don't disagree with the notion that whoever killed these two people
was wearing a pair of these rare shoes. O.J. may have even owned them,
as it appears in so many of the "new" pictures.

The point that people seem to be missing is that because these shoes are
so rare, it makes them the perfect target for someone to steal long
before the actual murders if they intended to frame him.

We all know that for years O.J. allowed lots of police into his home to
party and hang out, right. Well, if this is a police conspiracy it would
have been easy for one of these guys to get into his closet and take
them. Later they were used during the commission of the crime. Very
simple, and this would also help explain why O.J. doesn't remember
owning a pair of these shoes.

Any thoughts on this theory?

Thanks

Rory B.

j russ

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Jan 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/24/97
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All that could be true. Or OJ killed Ron and Nicole. I tend to believe
he killed them


cja...@delphi.com

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Jan 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/24/97
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Rory B <ro...@wondermat.com> writes:

>I'm a white guy who thinks that O.J. was framed -- big time!
>
>The issue of the Bruno Malli (sp?) shoes has been making me crazy since
>it first came up in the criminal trial. There is an obvious answer that
>I have never heard anyone bring up, so I will offer my opinion:



>We all know that for years O.J. allowed lots of police into his home to
>party and hang out, right. Well, if this is a police conspiracy it would
>have been easy for one of these guys to get into his closet and take
>them. Later they were used during the commission of the crime. Very
>simple, and this would also help explain why O.J. doesn't remember
>owning a pair of these shoes.
>
>Any thoughts on this theory?

Yes, I think you have brown eyes.
Because you are so full of shit it just shines out.
Charles Alden

Rory B

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Jan 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/24/97
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cja...@delphi.com wrote:
>
>
> Yes, I think you have brown eyes.
> Because you are so full of shit it just shines out.
> Charles Alden


Charles,

Yes, I do have brown eyes. How did you know? What kind of Web browser
are you using...I want one. Thank you for your deep & thoughtful
comments on my THEORY! So much for intelligent discussion.

Steve GREGG

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Jan 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/24/97
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In <32E80A...@wondermat.com> Rory B <ro...@wondermat.com> writes:
>
>Let me start by saying that the amout of racial crap out here in this
>newsgroup is outrageous. I though that social-culture-asian-american
was
>bad, but this group is disgusting for it's racial attacks.
>
>I'm a white guy who thinks that O.J. was framed -- big time!
>
>The issue of the Bruno Malli (sp?) shoes has been making me crazy
since
>it first came up in the criminal trial. There is an obvious answer
that
>I have never heard anyone bring up, so I will offer my opinion:
>
>I don't disagree with the notion that whoever killed these two people
>was wearing a pair of these rare shoes. O.J. may have even owned them,
>as it appears in so many of the "new" pictures.
>
>The point that people seem to be missing is that because these shoes
are
>so rare, it makes them the perfect target for someone to steal long
>before the actual murders if they intended to frame him.
>
>We all know that for years O.J. allowed lots of police into his home
to
>party and hang out, right. Well, if this is a police conspiracy it
would
>have been easy for one of these guys to get into his closet and take
>them. Later they were used during the commission of the crime. Very
>simple, and this would also help explain why O.J. doesn't remember
>owning a pair of these shoes.
>
>Any thoughts on this theory?
>
>Thanks
>
>Rory B.

Sound pretty stupid. First, you have no supporting evidence. Second,
if the LAPD and OJ were buddies (and they were), why would they frame
him? If they weren't buddies, why were they in his house so much?

The obvious answer is that OJ remembers these shoes. He probably
remembers every bit of the murders well. These Size 12 Bruno Magli
Lorenzo shoes tie him to the crime scene. He didn't think that anyone
could prove he owned them so he lied his ass off. Now that they've
come up with dozens of photos of him wearing the killer's shoes, he
looks pretty stupid and guiltier.

If they framed OJ, where did they get his fresh blood to sprinkle on
Ron Goldman's shoe at the crime scene and on the left of the bloody
footprints, which the FBI expert testified were Size 12 Bruno Magli
Lorenzos? That evidence was collected before OJ boarded the plane home
from Chicago.

Occam's Razor holds that the simplest answer to a problem is the most
likely. The simple answer is that OJ wore a pair of shoes that he has
been proven to own to the murder. Your much more complex answer is
that a vast organized conspiracy existed to frame OJ which sent an
agent into his house to steal his shoes so that they could be planted
at the murder scene later.

Nonsense.

Steve

Joel Rosenberg

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Jan 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/27/97
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Ron Miller <rmi...@ccgate.hac.com> writes:

>j russ wrote:
>>
>> All that could be true. Or OJ killed Ron and Nicole. I tend to believe
>> he killed them

>This whole conspiracy theory only works if the police also planned the
>murders as well.

And did so well in advance, and with many dozens of people (police,
medics, Simpson's doctor, Johnnie Cochran, cable tv installers, Paula
Barbieri, Cato Kaelin, at least one servant in Simpson's house,
burglars, etc.) actively involved in a conspiracy to murder Nicole and
frame Simpson.

All of whom have kept silent about this conspiracy.

Yeah, right.

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Ron Miller

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Jan 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/27/97
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j russ wrote:
>
> All that could be true. Or OJ killed Ron and Nicole. I tend to believe
> he killed them

This whole conspiracy theory only works if the police also planned the

murders as well. To successfully frame someone for a crime, you need to
be in total control of ALL aspects of the plan.

IMHO

Ron Miller

David McDuffee

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Jan 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/29/97
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In article <32E80A...@wondermat.com>, Rory B <ro...@wondermat.com> wrote:

>I'm a white guy who thinks that O.J. was framed -- big time!

You're an idiot.

>The point that people seem to be missing is that because these shoes are
>so rare, it makes them the perfect target for someone to steal long
>before the actual murders if they intended to frame him.
>
>We all know that for years O.J. allowed lots of police into his home to
>party and hang out, right. Well, if this is a police conspiracy it would
>have been easy for one of these guys to get into his closet and take
>them. Later they were used during the commission of the crime. Very
>simple, and this would also help explain why O.J. doesn't remember
>owning a pair of these shoes.

Any reason why the framer chose to go to all the trouble to STEAL the
motherbutcher's shoes, and then hide them so well that they couldn't
be found and used in court to help convict the person being framed?
If the framer wanted to get Simpson, why didn't the framer kill Simpson
instead of spinning this elaborate conspiracy which required killing
Simpson's ex-wife?

>Any thoughts on this theory?

You're an ee-yediot babe, it's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.

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Rose

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Jan 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/29/97
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Whether O.J. at some point owned a pair
of the rare shoes or not =still= does
not put the darned things on his feet.
And even if his feet are a size that
only three people on the planet wear,
it =still= doesn't put the dang shoes
on his feet at the time of the murders.

Were I the Defense in both trials, I would
add just enough doubt of his guilt by saying
that: Your blood can be somewhere you've
never been. Your hair can be somewhere
you've never been. Your skin cells can
be somewhere you've never been. But as
yet, no one has figured a way to plant
a fingerprint. Without one of those,
and without a witness, without some
irrefutable evidence, you can't prove
he was there. PERIOD.

The Civil Prosecutors have been embellishing
the murder, too. They have Ron Goldman
"protecting the mother of O.J.'s children."
How do they know that 5'8' Nicole hadn't gone
outside to stop some altercation at her
front gate? They are SO CONVINCED that O.J.
is guilty that they feel they can taint
the jurors' minds with fiction instead of
convincing them with fact. And because of
that, O.J. will NOT be paying diddly to
the Browns or the Goldmans... Watch and see.

The problem with the whole case against O.J.
is that there just isn't enough evidence.
Were that not the case, he'd be =still- in
jail. EDTA, time-line, plaintiff wail or
none, O.J. has not been proven guilty,
not by a preponderance of the evidence
and not beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm not saying that O.J. didn't do it. The
only way I, personally, would be sure is to
see the injuries to Nicole's face and breasts.
The type of lacerations would tell me if O.J.
did it or if someone else, not a lover, did it.
The injuries could not tell me if O.J. hired
that someone, though. I hope he didn't but I
believe it is very possible that he did and I
believe he did it because he felt dissed at
the recital (a last straw). He may have had
other motivations that had to do with Barbieri
but those are just my own imaginings.

I've noticed that Katy Couric and others
have made one last attempt to sway the jury
by broadcasting portions of the Bronco chase
cell call even as the jurors are beginning
deliberation. She's just like most prejudgers
and Geraldo watchers. I've just about had
it with the media. There are two channels
here in the L.A. area that constantly choose
the worst photos of O.J., a fairly good-looking
man. Their position is so transparent that
their reporting of the O.J. case is no more
informative than getting it from the tabloids.

I'll be glad when it's all over and O.J. can
kick back with his kids without some camera
peeping at them...

David C. Waters

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Jan 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/29/97
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: In article <32E80A...@wondermat.com>, ro...@wondermat.com says:
: >The point that people seem to be missing is that because these shoes are

: >so rare, it makes them the perfect target for someone to steal long
: >before the actual murders if they intended to frame him.

Kenneth Crudup (ke...@panix.com) wrote:
: The lengths people will go to do clear their hero OJ in their minds ....
: When do the Black Helicopters and the CIA factor into this?

:-)

Yeah, how does "rory" resolve the contradiction that his suggestion
makes? The suggestion is that OJ's Bruno Magli shoes were stolen and
used at the crime scene to frame OJ. OTOH, OJ denies ever owning a pair
of the same shoes that are suggested to be stolen.

I suppose that the theft of his (self-described) "ugly-ass" shoes was so
traumatic that he blocked out their existence.

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Michael Rimpel

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Jan 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/29/97
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On 29 Jan 1997 08:32:32 -0500, ke...@panix.com (Kenneth Crudup) wrote:

>In article <32E80A...@wondermat.com>, ro...@wondermat.com says:
>
>>The point that people seem to be missing is that because these shoes are
>>so rare, it makes them the perfect target for someone to steal long
>>before the actual murders if they intended to frame him.
>

>The lengths people will go to do clear their hero OJ in their minds ....
>When do the Black Helicopters and the CIA factor into this?
>

> -Kenny

I also find it amazing where the media finds these people that think
OJ is innocent. So far everyone, EVERYONE in my circle of friends,
wether college educated or not, West Indian or Black American, well
off or not think OJ is guilty. Now theres the tapes of the police
talking to OJ while he was trying to escape, the disguise in the
Bronco, the fact that he had a set of keys to Nicole's house, keys she
thought were stolen, and I bet people will STILL find a way to say
that OJ didn't do it. Amazing.

Michael Rimpel
ri...@worldnet.att.net

Kenneth Crudup

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Jan 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/29/97
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>The point that people seem to be missing is that because these shoes are
>so rare, it makes them the perfect target for someone to steal long
>before the actual murders if they intended to frame him.

The lengths people will go to do clear their hero OJ in their minds ....

When do the Black Helicopters and the CIA factor into this?

-Kenny

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Tom Nally

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Jan 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/30/97
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Rory B <ro...@wondermat.com> wrote:
>I'm a white guy who thinks that O.J. was framed -- big time!
<snippity snip>

>The point that people seem to be missing is that because these shoes are
>so rare, it makes them the perfect target for someone to steal long
>before the actual murders if they intended to frame him.
Rory:
If you have a theory for which there is evidence (rather than just
speculation), the good citizens of usenet will respond to it cordially.

However, if we are going to espouse theories backed up only by fantasy
rather than by evidence, then it would be just as well to speculate
that space aliens killed Ron and Nicole.

As a matter of fact, you tell me why space aliens couldn't have done
it. Doesn't the fact that there is no evidence implicating space
aliens makde the case against them even stronger?

Tom Nally
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Tom Nally

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Jan 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/30/97
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cybe...@ix.netcom.com(Rose) wrote

>I'm not saying that O.J. didn't do it. The
>only way I, personally, would be sure is to
>see the injuries to Nicole's face and breasts.
>The type of lacerations would tell me if O.J.
>did it or if someone else, not a lover, did it.

So, to you, OJ's own blood at the crime scene is not significant,
but the character of the lacerations would implicate him?

>The injuries could not tell me if O.J. hired
>that someone, though. I hope he didn't but I
>believe it is very possible that he did and I
>believe he did it because he felt dissed at
>the recital (a last straw).


In your original post, you argued that the evidence was planted.
Now you say that OJ may well have hired the murderer. If OJ's own
hit-man framed him, I just hope OJ didn't pay him in advance!

Sonar

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Jan 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/31/97
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> cybe...@ix.netcom.com(Rose) wrote
>
> >I'm not saying that O.J. didn't do it. The
> >only way I, personally, would be sure is to
> >see the injuries to Nicole's face and breasts.
> >The type of lacerations would tell me if O.J.
> >did it or if someone else, not a lover, did it.



Well, OJ tried to make sure that her face...no, her whole head was well
separated from her breasts along with the rest of her body. A deep gash in
the neck that scratches the spine has a tendency to do that.


> >The injuries could not tell me if O.J. hired
> >that someone, though. I hope he didn't but I
> >believe it is very possible that he did and I
> >believe he did it because he felt dissed at
> >the recital (a last straw).


The "last straw" is hard to pinpoint. It could have been Paula dumping him
the day before. It could have been the recital snub. It could have been not
being invited to dinner afterward. OJ was/is used to his bitches come when
they're called. And they are by no means allowed to cut off relations with
him before he's through using them.

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