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=> Vox Populi ©

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Tape Shows Marine Hostage in Iraq

Sunday, June 27, 2004

AP

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Arab television broadcast videotape Sunday of two hostages said
to be of Pakistani origin, one of them a blindfolded U.S. Marine militants
claimed to have lured from his base and taken captive. Insurgents threatened to
behead them both.

Also, militants hit a U.S. Air Force transport plane with small arms fire after
takeoff from Baghdad's airport, killing a passenger and forcing the aircraft to
return. Turkey rejected demands by militants who threatened to behead three
Turkish hostages unless Turkish companies cut ties to U.S. forces.

There was no immediate comment from the U.S. military about the Marine captive
shown on the Al-Jazeera (search) network, but the video showed a card
identifying the man by a Pakistani name and as an "active duty" Marine. The man
had a trimmed mustache and his eyes were covered with a white blindfold.

Al-Jazeera said the group demanded the release of all Iraqis "in occupation
jails" or the man would be killed.

The group identified itself as "Islamic Response," the security wing of the
"National Islamic Resistance -- 1920 Revolution Brigades" referring to the
uprising against the British after World War I (search).

The group, which has claimed responsibility for previous anti-American attacks,
was first heard from in an Aug. 12 statement in which it claimed the United
States was hiding its casualty tolls in Iraq to help President Bush's election
chances.

U.S. officials believe the insurgency consists of several groups with different
ideologies, among them Arab nationalists, former Baath Party (search) members
and Islamic extremists.

Earlier Sunday, another Pakistani hostage was shown on a tape broadcast by a
different Arab television station, Al-Arabiya. Four masked gunmen threatened to
decapitate him if American troops don't release prisoners in several areas of
central Iraq within the next three days.

It was unclear how either set of kidnappers was linked to Jordanian terror
mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who claimed responsibility for the decapitation
deaths of American Nicholas Berg and South Korean Kim Sun-il last week.

In Baghdad, meanwhile, an American soldier was killed Sunday when a rocket
slammed into a U.S. base on the southeastern outskirts of the city, the military
said.

Threats against hostages as well as attacks on U.S. and Iraqi security forces
have accelerated as Iraq's interim government prepares to assume sovereignty
Wednesday.

Gunmen dressed in black killed six soldiers of the Iraqi National Guard,
formerly the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps, and wounded four others at a checkpoint
in Jalawla, 75 miles northeast of Baghdad.

The U.S. Air Force C-130 was flying about 12 miles west of Baghdad when it
received small arms fire about 5 p.m., U.S. officials said. The plane returned
to Baghdad International Airport, and a wounded person died at a U.S. military
hospital, the military said.

Attacks against U.S. aircraft around Baghdad have occurred before, although no
fixed-wing planes have been shot down. The main road linking the airport to
central Baghdad also has become increasingly dangerous because of ambushes.

In Istanbul, Turkish Defense Minister Vecdi Gonul rejected demands by
al-Zarqawi's group for Turkish companies to quit doing business with U.S. troops
in Iraq to spare the lives of the three Turkish hostages.

"Turkey will not bow to pressure from terrorists," Gonul told the private
CNN-Turk and TV8 television stations.

The demand was issued as Bush and other Western leaders gathered in Turkey for a
NATO summit Monday. Turkey, the only Muslim nation in NATO, was put in a
difficult position trying to balance alliance solidarity with national
interests.

The U.S. mission in Iraq is deeply unpopular in Turkey, and it was feared that
any killing of Turkish hostages could intensify anger against the United States.

More than 40 people from several countries have been abducted in Iraq since
April -- many of them released or freed by coalition soldiers. Several
kidnappings have been blamed on the al-Zarqawi group.

In one of the hostage videos Sunday, a Pakistani driver displayed an
identification card issued by the U.S. firm Kellogg, Brown & Root. His
kidnappers did not say whether they were affiliated with any group. KBR is a
subsidiary of Vice President Dick Cheney's former company Halliburton.

Unlike some previous hostage cases, the tape did not feature the banner of
al-Zarqawi's group and it appeared to have been shot outdoors.

The masked gunmen, who held assault rifles across their chests, said they would
behead the Pakistani within three days unless the Americans freed prisoners held
at Abu Ghraib and three cities of central Iraq -- Balad, Dujail and Samarra. The
gunmen said they captured the Pakistani near the U.S. base at Balad, 50 miles
north of Baghdad.

The hostage, who gave his name as Amjad, urged Pakistani President Pervez
Musharraf to close the Pakistani Embassy in Iraq and to ban Pakistanis from
coming to Iraq.

"I'm also Muslim, but despite this they didn't release me," he said, bowing his
head. "They are going to cut the head of any person regardless of whether he is
a Muslim or not."

Also Sunday, three rockets exploded near one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces
in the Green Zone, the heavily guarded headquarters of the U.S.-run occupation.
U.S. officials said the blasts caused no damage or casualties.

At sunset, guerrillas fired a second volley of several mortars into the heart of
Baghdad, killing two children playing near a bank of the river Tigris, an
Interior Ministry official said.

Three mortar shells also fell in the northern city of Mosul, hitting an office
of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, a pro-U.S. political party. One party
member was killed and nine others were injured, including two civilians.

Also in Mosul, gunmen killed a policeman in a drive-by shooting, police said. In
a separate attack, gunmen struck an Iraqi army recruiting with rifle-fire in
another drive-by, injuring one guard.


--
"We are going to fight them and impose our will on them
and we will capture or, if necessary, kill them
until we have imposed law and order upon this country,"
- Paul Bremer, U$ installed Jewish Dictator of Iraq


ZZBunker

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Jun 27, 2004, 10:57:46 PM6/27/04
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"=> Vox Populi ©" <v...@popu.li> wrote in message news:<LdHDc.426$%M3.1...@news.uswest.net>...

> Tape Shows Marine Hostage in Iraq
>
> Sunday, June 27, 2004
>
> AP
>
> BAGHDAD, Iraq ? Arab television broadcast videotape Sunday of two hostages said

> to be of Pakistani origin, one of them a blindfolded U.S. Marine militants
> claimed to have lured from his base and taken captive. Insurgents threatened to
> behead them both.

Are you sure this is from the AP, and not simply
more trash-o-matic from a US invited guest writer
from Iran, Houston, or Los Angelos?

>
> Also, militants hit a U.S. Air Force transport plane with small arms fire after
> takeoff from Baghdad's airport, killing a passenger and forcing the aircraft to
> return. Turkey rejected demands by militants who threatened to behead three
> Turkish hostages unless Turkish companies cut ties to U.S. forces.

Probably a good idea, I don't think Turkey
ever gave into Saudi political pressure,
since the last time it killed 100,000 of them,
somewhere in the Middle Ages.

=> Vox Populi ©

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Jun 28, 2004, 12:40:30 AM6/28/04
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Kenneth Lemieux wrote:
> I think the US should kill all the prisoners the terrorists are asking
> to be freed. I also think they should hunt down all the families of
> anyone involved.

Being the typical murderous Americunt imbecile that you
are, your myopic amoral response isn't surprising.

>
>
> "=> Vox Populi ©" <v...@popu.li> wrote in message
> news:<LdHDc.426$%M3.1...@news.uswest.net>...

>> Tape Shows Marine Hostage in Iraq
>>
>> Sunday, June 27, 2004
>>
>> AP
>>

>> BAGHDAD, Iraq ? Arab television broadcast videotape Sunday of two

-- US Viceroy Paul Bremer,
how U$A is going to win 'hearts and minds'
of the subjugated people of Iraq


Fay

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Jun 28, 2004, 2:37:30 AM6/28/04
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"=> Vox Populi ©" <v...@popu.li> wrote in
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> Kenneth Lemieux wrote:
>> I think the US should kill all the prisoners the terrorists are asking
>> to be freed. I also think they should hunt down all the families of
>> anyone involved.
>

> Being the typical murderous American imbecile that you


> are, your myopic amoral response isn't surprising.

Since this guy is a muslim, he maybe helping set this up. American do not
make deals with terrorist.

FransHals

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Jun 28, 2004, 10:29:40 AM6/28/04
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"=> Vox Populi ©" <v...@popu.li> wrote in message news:<tlNDc.578$E25.1...@news.uswest.net>...

> Kenneth Lemieux wrote:
> > I think the US should kill all the prisoners the terrorists are asking
> > to be freed. I also think they should hunt down all the families of
> > anyone involved.
>
> Being the typical murderous Americunt imbecile that you
> are, your myopic amoral response isn't surprising.
>


No America lets too many effing Muslims murderers into this country.
Send them home. Send all Middle Eastern troublemakers home including
the Israeli mafia running Las Vegas.

There are 500,000 or more Iraqis in America who have probably arrivaed
in the last 8 years or less. Send them back so they can fight and die
for Democracy.

We got rid of Saddam now let them decide if they want to build a
democracy or live worse than pigs in shit like most of the middle
east.

=> Vox Populi ©

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Jun 28, 2004, 1:19:00 PM6/28/04
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Peter Skelton wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:37:30 -0000, Fay <F...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> "=> Vox Populi Š" <v...@popu.li> wrote in
> No, America makes deals with terrorists. Sometimes it takes money
> from one batch and uses it to finance another.
>
> Don't get me wrong, the US is as good as any country and better
> than most but your sort of idiocy is too much.

Enough to get a criminal chimpanzee into the Whitehouse ...

The U$$A deserves G Bu$h and his criminal mob. May they all
rot in their own hell ...

>
> Peter Skelton

--
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13

"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13

"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to
get a deferment. Not was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to
better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
~George W. Bush on how he dodged the
Vietnam draft---1994


=> Vox Populi ©

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Jun 28, 2004, 1:23:35 PM6/28/04
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FransHals wrote:
> "=> Vox Populi Š" <v...@popu.li> wrote in message

Funny, they had the highest standard of living when Saddam was their leader,
higher literacy, high income, better infrastructure, best schools
and universities in the middle east, good medicine (in spite of U$ embargo),
social stability, etc etc.

Now that Bu$h and his criminal gang have destroyed the place completely,
it's rapidly becoming another anarchistic fanatical theocracy ... good job
dipshit.

Jay T. Beatty

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"=> Vox Populi ©" <v...@popu.li> wrote in message
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> FransHals wrote:
> > "=> Vox Populi ©" <v...@popu.li> wrote in message

> > news:<tlNDc.578$E25.1...@news.uswest.net>...
> >> Kenneth Lemieux wrote:
> >>> I think the US should kill all the prisoners the terrorists are
> >>> asking
> >>> to be freed. I also think they should hunt down all the families of
> >>> anyone involved.
> >>
> >> Being the typical murderous Americunt imbecile that you
> >> are, your myopic amoral response isn't surprising.
> >>
> >
> >
> > No America lets too many effing Muslims murderers into this country.
> > Send them home. Send all Middle Eastern troublemakers home including
> > the Israeli mafia running Las Vegas.
> >
> > There are 500,000 or more Iraqis in America who have probably arrivaed
> > in the last 8 years or less. Send them back so they can fight and die
> > for Democracy.
> >
> > We got rid of Saddam now let them decide if they want to build a
> > democracy or live worse than pigs in shit like most of the middle
> > east.
>
> Funny, they had the highest standard of living when Saddam was their
leader,
> higher literacy, high income, better infrastructure, best schools
> and universities in the middle east, good medicine (in spite of U$
embargo),
> social stability, etc etc.
>
Lol, what planet are you living on? Never been to the middle east have
you?

> Now that Bu$h and his criminal gang have destroyed the place completely,
> it's rapidly becoming another anarchistic fanatical theocracy ... good job
> dipshit.
>

Same to you about your research abilities.


Mark Test

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"=> Vox Populi ©" <v...@popu.li> wrote in message
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> Kenneth Lemieux wrote:
> > I think the US should kill all the prisoners the terrorists are asking
> > to be freed. I also think they should hunt down all the families of
> > anyone involved.
>
> Being the typical murderous Americunt imbecile that you
> are, your myopic amoral response isn't surprising.

Being the typical terrorist supporter that you are, your
myopic amoral response is not surprising in the least.

Christopher Kurtis Koeber

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Sure, then if that's the case then the Iraqi's deserve Saddam.

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> Peter Skelton wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:37:30 -0000, Fay <F...@nospam.net> wrote:
> >

> >> "=> Vox Populi ©" <v...@popu.li> wrote in


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Great!!! Saddam was the best man for the job. That's why thousands upon
thousands died, were injured, or went missing under his rule.

You anti-americans are something else. Maybe we should get Hitler back and
send him to your home country! I bet he was a great guy too!!

Christopher

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=> Vox Populi ©

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Christopher Kurtis Koeber wrote:
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> Great!!! Saddam was the best man for the job. That's why thousands
> upon thousands died, were injured, or went missing under his rule.

And how many have died, are injured, or missing under the 1 year
rule of the Criminal Bu$h Mob?

How many more will die and suffer as what was once the most stable
non-fundamentalist country in the Middle East decends into absolute
anarchy and chaos due to the Illegal U$ Attack and Invasion?


>
> You anti-americans are something else.

You neo-con imbeciles are something else.

> Maybe we should get Hitler
> back and send him to your home country! I bet he was a great guy too!!

Bu$h is Hitler ... different day, different clothes.

--
Lie #1: "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting
its nuclear weapons program ... Iraq has attempted to purchase
high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas
centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons."

-President Bush, Oct. 7, 2002

Fact: This story, leaked to and breathlessly reported by The New
York Times' usually astute Middle East correspondent Judith Miller,
has turned out to be complete baloney. Department of Energy officials
who monitor nuclear plants say the tubes could not be used for
enriching uranium. One intelligence analyst who was part of the tubes
investigation, angrily told The New Republic: "You had senior American
officials like Condoleezza Rice saying the only use of this aluminum
really is uranium centrifuges. She said that on television. And that's
just a lie."


Lie #2: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein
recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

-President Bush, Jan.28, 2003, in the State of the Union address

Fact: This whopper was based on a document that the White House
already knew to be a forgery, thanks to honest analysis by the CIA.
Sold to Italian intelligence by some hustler, the document carried the
signature of an official who had been out of office for 10 years and
referenced a constitution that was no longer in effect. The ex-ambassador
who the CIA sent to check out the story is angry: "They knew the Niger
story was a flat-out lie," he told The New Republic, anonymously. "They
[the White House] were unpersuasive about aluminum tubes and added this
to make their case more strongly."


Lie #3: "We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear
weapons."

-Vice President Cheney, March 16, 2003, on "Meet the Press"

Fact: There was and is absolutely no basis for this statement. CIA
reports up through 2002 showed no evidence of an Iraqi nuclear weapons
program.


Lie #4: "[The CIA possesses] solid reporting of senior-level contacts
between Iraq and al-Qaeda going back a decade."

-CIA Director George Tenet in a written statement released Oct. 7, 2002
and echoed in that evening's speech by President Bush

Fact: Intelligence agencies knew of tentative contacts between Saddam and
al-Qaeda in the early '90s, but found no proof of a continuing
relationship. In other words, by tweaking language, Tenet and Bush spun
the intelligence 180 degrees to say exactly the opposite of what it
suggested.


Lie #5: "We've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in
bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases ... Alliance with
terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without
leaving any fingerprints."

-President Bush, Oct. 7

Fact: No evidence of this has ever been leaked or produced. Colin
Powell told the U.N. this alleged training took place in a camp in
northern Iraq. To his great embarrassment, the area he indicated was
later revealed to be outside Iraq's control and patrolled by Allied
war planes.
--

Lie #6: "We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has
a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be
used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas.
We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs
[unmanned aerial vehicles] for missions targeting the United States."

-President Bush, Oct. 7

Fact: Said drones can't fly more than 300 miles, and Iraq is 6,000
miles from the U.S. coastline. Furthermore, Iraq's drone-building
program wasn't much more advanced than your average model plane
enthusiast. And isn't a "manned aerial vehicle" just a scary way to
say "plane"?


Lie #7: "We have seen intelligence over many months that they have
chemical and biological weapons, and that they have dispersed them and
that they're weaponized and that, in one case at least, the command and
control arrangements have been established."

-President Bush, Feb. 8, 2003

Fact: Despite a massive search by U.S. and British forces in Iraq,
there are no signs, traces or examples of chemical weapons being
deployed in the field, or anywhere else during the war.


Lie #8: "Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile
of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough
to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets."

-Secretary of State Colin Powell, Feb. 5, 2003, in remarks to the U.N.
Security Council

Fact: Putting aside the glaring fact that not one drop of this massive
stockpile has been found, U.S. intelligence reports show that these
stocks-if they existed-were well past their use-by date and therefore
useless as weapon fodder.


Lie #9: "We know where [Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction] are. They're
in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north
somewhat."

-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003

Fact: Needless to say, no such weapons were found, not to the east, west,
south or north, somewhat or otherwise.


Lie #10: "Yes, we found a biological laboratory in Iraq which the U.N.
prohibited."

-President Bush in remarks in Poland, published internationally June 1,
2003

Fact: This was reference to the discovery of two modified truck trailers
that the CIA claimed were potential mobile biological weapons lab. But
British and American experts (including a recent report by the State
Department's intelligence wing) have since declared this to be untrue.
According to the British, and much to Prime Minister Tony Blair's
embarrassment, the trailers are actually exactly what Iraq said they
were: facilities to fill weather balloons, sold to them by the British
themselves.


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