Bannerman's ISP address
Michele St. Martin
I have been trying to email Bannerman's ISP to complain about his
abusive and racist behavior, but my emails get bounced back to me.
Do any of you have ideas about what address to use to get something
through?
Michele (Happy because she just sent a complaint to Steve's ISP, and
looking forward to sending one to PAuL's next!)
Amie E. Babineau
In article <330CD1...@PioneerPlanet.infi.net>, "Michele St. Martin"
<mich...@PioneerPlanet.infi.net> wrote:
Try ad...@pacific.net.sg or sysa...@pacific.net.sg. I used the first one
and haven't gotten anything bounced back.
Have at it! :)
-Amie Babineau
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You'll discover that you can"
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Blue@pacific.net.sg Bannerman
am...@datasoup.com (Amie E. Babineau) wrote:
>Try ad...@pacific.net.sg or sysa...@pacific.net.sg. I used the first one
>and haven't gotten anything bounced back.
That's probably the right one though it won't make any difference. I have
just spoken to my provider and since my posts have not offended Singapore
Laws, I have nothing to fear! Too bad, you white racists, we Asians are
not as intolerant and bigoted as you are, and most of all, we are all too
aware of your prejudice against us and your interference in our domestic
affairs. Now go to hell, you American hegemonic sack of shit!! =)
Blue@pacific.net.sg Bannerman
"Michele St. Martin" <mich...@PioneerPlanet.infi.net> wrote:
>I have been trying to email Bannerman's ISP to complain about his
>abusive and racist behavior, but my emails get bounced back to me.
Thanks to your sneakiness, Bannerman withdrawls his truce offerings and
shall remain in scw indefinitely!!
Vicki Robinson
In a previous article, "Michele St. Martin" <mich...@PioneerPlanet.infi.net> said:
>I have been trying to email Bannerman's ISP to complain about his
>abusive and racist behavior, but my emails get bounced back to me.
>Do any of you have ideas about what address to use to get something
>through?
>
Michele, it would help if you'd let us know what address you've tried;
Bannerass's return address seems to have an extra space in it, after
the @ character.
pacific.net.sg has a pretty nice web page; apparently it's a pretty
big outfit, sponsored by Sembawang Media Pre Std and Singapore
International media pte Ltd. I'm hoping that they're protective
enough of their good names to want to stop these jerks, but you can't
always count on that.
Anyway, an office address is:
89 Science park Drive
#04-09/12
The Rutherford
Singapore, 118261
Nicholas Lee is listed as the CEO; however, we probably want Stacy
Chua, Systems Manager, or Wong Kok Hoou, Network Operations Manager,
or Paul Tan, Customer Service Manager.
Their Help line is he...@pacific.net.sg and their sales hotline is
in...@pacific.net.sg
Personally, I'd email both of these addresses with a full file of the
spew from these jerks (*include the headers*), and add one to
ro...@pacific.net.sg
Vicki
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It appears that hah...@hahaha.com and centauri
<iloveth...@pacific.net.sg> are also Bannerman aliases. All three
have the same posting paths and NTTP hosts.
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Blue@pacific.net.sg Bannerman
vjr...@xcski.com (Vicki Robinson) wrote:
>I'm hoping that they're protective
>enough of their good names to want to stop these jerks, but you can't
>always count on that.
Hahahahahahahahaha! They have a good nough name to know that they cannot
censor people based on the wishes of a bunch of racists who do not know
how to debate! We are a proud Asian nation here, and none of your "let's
censor that second-class citizen" crap will apply in Singapore!! If you
don't believe me, keep trying and show yourselves up for the disgraceful
racists that you lot are! Besides, I have spoken to Pacnet who informed me
that since nothing illegal was done, there is nothing to be done. Asians
have rights too, and too bad a bunch of provincial and ignorant
whitte-trash racists like you guys can't fathom that out! Remeber "Michael
Fay"? [Grin]
>Personally, I'd email both of these addresses with a full file of the
>spew from these jerks (*include the headers*), and add one to
>ro...@pacific.net.sg
Hmmm....Well, I am going to wait for a written reply from pacnet, and with
that, I may actually apply for a writ to place some kinda' of restraining
order on you racist lot for harassing me unnecessarily. We use proxies
here, so we can easily filter crap from white supremists out anytime.
Blue@pacific.net.sg Bannerman
Jeanne Hinds <jmh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>It appears that hah...@hahaha.com and centauri
><iloveth...@pacific.net.sg> are also Bannerman aliases. All three
>have the same posting paths and NTTP hosts.
Stupid, I have already confirmed that!
Vicki Robinson
michael <m...@flash.net> is purported to have said
> And I'm certain you have no choice but to wade through his posts
>every night. That is silly. Unless you are working on a commodore 64,
>or something with no more memory than my laser printer.
Well, I thought you were pretty clueless about the technical end of posting
to Usenet when I saw that you'd put your X No Archive in your subject line,
instead of giving it its own line in the header. You just confirmed it.
People who are using Netscape (ptui!) to read Usenet don't have killfile
abilities, and only limited abilities to see who the poster is before opening
the post. It has nothing to do with what kind of computer you're using, or
the amount of RAM; it's your operating system, and the software that your ISP
gives you. Unfortunately these days Unix shell accounts are few and far
between, and people are stuck with Netscape (ptui!) as a newsreader. It's a
pretty good browser, but it's a *terrible* newsreader.
Trn on a Unix box. That's living.
> I did my background checks before posting. I have travelled all
>over the world ...and have seen societies where your small minded lack
>of foresight has gotten it's way. SSshhhh.
>
Um, hey? The background the previous poster was referring to was aoubt
knowing what posting software people commonly use. Not a thing about world
travel.
Vicki
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car...@nospam.wam.umd.edu
In article <330DC5...@flash.net>, michael <m...@flash.net> wrote:
>Hello,
> It was not my intention to enter a holy flame war here. My
>intention was to point out the ease by which we all tread on our own
>rights for free speech.
> I agree that Steve (etc) are out of place on the NG. I don't
>agree with stamping it out. THAT is Un-American. No matter how you
>slice it. I have seen posts from people who enjoy his post. I like the
>spice myself...as I am often bored to tears by some of the post.
This newsgroup is not an 'American' group. So hey, all you Canadians and
Europeans, stop being so un-American, would ya?!?
UseNet is not a haven for free speech. You cannont/should not post
whatever you want to wherever you want to. Your posts should be on topic
for the newsgroup. This lastest racist argueing is NOT on topic. Asking
people to leave because they do not post on topic is not censorship and
not restricting free speech, it is obey a few 'rules'.
Example: I am an ocean scientist. I want to go present a paper of mine.
But instead of presenting it at an oceanography meeting, I submit my paper
to the microbiologist conference. They turn me down. Are they censoring
my work? No. But my work is not appropriate for the venue and they are
telling me to go elsewhere. And that's what these people should do.
Carrie
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Sack79
michael
X = no archive. - yes No repost.
Free speech is a very very bad thing. We should try to stamp it out
whenever possible.
Now, would of course, be the best time....before we have heard
any more of what we do not wish to hear.
michael
Hello,
It was not my intention to enter a holy flame war here. My
intention was to point out the ease by which we all tread on our own
rights for free speech.
I agree that Steve (etc) are out of place on the NG. I don't
agree with stamping it out. THAT is Un-American. No matter how you
slice it. I have seen posts from people who enjoy his post. I like the
spice myself...as I am often bored to tears by some of the post.
every night. That is silly. Unless you are working on a commodore 64,
or something with no more memory than my laser printer.
over the world ...and have seen societies where your small minded lack
of foresight has gotten it's way. SSshhhh.
Following is article I responded to here..........
>>I think you missed the point of the complaints. He is more than
>>welcome
>>to post his hate mongering any place he wishes, we just prefer not to
>>have to read it. We have asked him to stop posting to alt.weddings and
>>soc.couples.weddings because his comments are not related to most
>>topics. Usually they are personal attacks on other people's race or
>>religion. Free speech is a wonderful thing and I am all for it but
>>that
>>doesn't mean I want to listen to someone who's only purpose is to
><incite
>>trouble. In regular social interaction, you can usually just avoid a
>>person like that - he can say what he wants it doesn't mean you have to
>>listen. However, in a newsgroup some of us do not have the ability to
>>filter out his posts. In my case, I don't have the option of a
>>killfile. I am forced to wade through all of his hate-filled messages.
>>I usually can't tell it's from him until I open it at which point I
>>have
>>already seen more than I care to.
>>In the future, please try to get all of the background before you post
>>a
>>"sermon" on free speech.
>>Janet
car...@nospam.wam.umd.edu
>> It was not my intention to enter a holy flame war here. My
>>intention was to point out the ease by which we all tread on our own
>>rights for free speech.
>> I agree that Steve (etc) are out of place on the NG. I don't
>>agree with stamping it out. THAT is Un-American. No matter how you
>>slice it. I have seen posts from people who enjoy his post. I like
>the
>>spice myself...as I am often bored to tears by some of the post.
This newsgroup is not an 'American' group. So hey, all you Canadians
Vicki Robinson
michael <m...@flash.net> is purported to have said
>> And I'm certain you have no choice but to wade through his
>posts
>>every night. That is silly. Unless you are working on a commodore 64,
>>or something with no more memory than my laser printer.
Well, I thought you were pretty clueless about the technical end of
posting
to Usenet when I saw that you'd put your X No Archive in your subject
line,
instead of giving it its own line in the header. You just confirmed it.
People who are using Netscape (ptui!) to read Usenet don't have killfile
abilities, and only limited abilities to see who the poster is before
opening
the post. It has nothing to do with what kind of computer you're
using, or
the amount of RAM; it's your operating system, and the software that
your ISP
gives you. Unfortunately these days Unix shell accounts are few and far
between, and people are stuck with Netscape (ptui!) as a newsreader.
It's a
pretty good browser, but it's a *terrible* newsreader.
Trn on a Unix box. That's living.
>> I did my background checks before posting. I have travelled
>all
>>over the world ...and have seen societies where your small minded lack
>>of foresight has gotten it's way. SSshhhh.
>>
Um, hey? The background the previous poster was referring to was aoubt
Moe
>>I think you missed the point of the complaints. He is more than
>>welcome
>>to post his hate mongering any place he wishes, we just prefer not to
>>have to read it. We have asked him to stop posting to alt.weddings and
>>soc.couples.weddings because his comments are not related to most
>>topics. Usually they are personal attacks on other people's race or
>>religion. Free speech is a wonderful thing and I am all for it but
>>that
>>doesn't mean I want to listen to someone who's only purpose is to <incite
>>trouble. In regular social interaction, you can usually just avoid a
>>person like that - he can say what he wants it doesn't mean you have to
>>listen. However, in a newsgroup some of us do not have the ability to
>>filter out his posts. In my case, I don't have the option of a
>>killfile. I am forced to wade through all of his hate-filled messages.
>>I usually can't tell it's from him until I open it at which point I
>>have
>>already seen more than I care to.
Then don't read usenet, dufus! Go read some freakin wedding magazines
instead. In case anyone hasn't told you, the internet is an open
forum, not a private club. If someone's opinions don't jive with
yours, deal with it!!! What a bunch of crybabies.
>>Janet
Moe
max
On 21 Feb 1997 08:22:15 GMT, Bannerman <Plain Bl...@pacific.net.sg>
wrote:
>
>Hahahahahahahahaha! They have a good nough name to know that they cannot
>censor people based on the wishes of a bunch of racists who do not know
>how to debate! We are a proud Asian nation here, and none of your "let's
>censor that second-class citizen" crap will apply in Singapore!! If you
>don't believe me, keep trying and show yourselves up for the disgraceful
>racists that you lot are! Besides, I have spoken to Pacnet who informed me
>that since nothing illegal was done, there is nothing to be done. Asians
>have rights too, and too bad a bunch of provincial and ignorant
>whitte-trash racists like you guys can't fathom that out! Remeber "Michael
>Fay"? [Grin]
bannerman
Have no fear. I will write a letter to your ROOT about the racist
intent of these whitey here in SCW and AW about wanting to censor
YOU!. NO fear. Your ISP is run by asians and they will stand up for
you.
max
max
he's not even an American. His Postmaster will only laugh at you
silly.
max
Blue@pacific.net.sg Bannerman
max (max) wrote:
>Your ISP is run by asians and they will stand up for
>you.
Thanks max! =) We in Asia don't take western interference at all (with the
exception of the Japanese) and in this day and age, western influence is
not as powerful as it used to be.
Lawrence Goh
Bannerman (Plai...@pacific.net.sg) wrote:
Although this topic has died down and I hope it stays down, let me
clarify one thing. Singapore laws may not cover such things as Usenet
news articles but as an ISP we're very sensitive to what our users do
on the Net.
In general posting off topic is in bad taste, alt.wedding and
soc.couples.wedding is not the place to argue about racial issues.
Any personal wars should be done via email. I'm no net cop, this is
common sense.
Having been on the Net for some years I should say that the written
medium of Usenet is a poor means of communication as misunderstandings
can easily arise. We should all take time to cool down before replying
a post.
As an ISP we view spams, mailbombs, impersonations, etc. as abuses of
our service and will take appropriate actions that may ultimately
result in suspension of an account. For more serious offenses such as
break-ins we will not hesitate to get the local law enforcers
involved.
FYI, the proposed standard contact for Internet abuses is
ab...@domain.name. Send to ab...@pacific.net.sg if there are further
abuses.
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// Systems Administrator Repulic of Singapore //////
// URL: http://www.pacific.net.sg //////
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"For all flesh is grass, and all the glory thereof
as the flower of the field" [Is 40:6]
Lawrence Goh
Vicki Robinson (vjr...@xcski.com) wrote:
: In a previous article, "Michele St. Martin" <mich...@PioneerPlanet.infi.net> said:
: pacific.net.sg has a pretty nice web page; apparently it's a pretty
: big outfit, sponsored by Sembawang Media Pre Std and Singapore
: International media pte Ltd. I'm hoping that they're protective
: enough of their good names to want to stop these jerks, but you can't
: always count on that.
Sorry for being off topic...
Well being big means bigger headaches. We're aware of the problems our
users and other ISP users are creating in the bigger Net community.
: Their Help line is he...@pacific.net.sg and their sales hotline is
: in...@pacific.net.sg
Please don't flood the 2 addresses above. help is for technical
support and info is customer support.
: Personally, I'd email both of these addresses with a full file of the
: spew from these jerks (*include the headers*), and add one to
: ro...@pacific.net.sg
For abuses please send to ab...@pacific.net.sg, that's the current
standard.
: Vicki
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Jeanne Hinds
Lawrence Goh wrote:
> As an ISP we view spams, mailbombs, impersonations,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
etc. as abuses of
> our service and will take appropriate actions that may ultimately
> result in suspension of an account. For more serious offenses such as
> break-ins we will not hesitate to get the local law enforcers
> involved.
>
> FYI, the proposed standard contact for Internet abuses is
> ab...@domain.name. Send to ab...@pacific.net.sg if there are further
> abuses.
Maybe everyone would like to email Mr. Goh and ab...@pacific.net.sg with
a copy of the following post in which Bannerman admits to two other
forged impersonations:
Subject: Re: Bannerman's ISP address
From: Bannerman <Plain Bl...@pacific.net.sg>
Date: 1997/02/21
Message-Id: <5ejm1l$2s0$3...@newton.pacific.net.sg>
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<E5xAF...@xcski.com> <330D01...@mindspring.com>
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