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Ammonium

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Apr 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/7/98
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I don't think there are any official little ivies, and I'm really not sure
what exactly the qualifications are. I can give my opinion, I guess, using
universities. I don't know much about colleges such as Williams or Swarthmore,
so I really can't comment. Anyways, the Ivies are universities, so the Little
Ivies might as well be as well. Also, "little" doesn't seem a good word to
describe most of these schools because they're better than a lot of actual
Ivies.

In Alphabetical Order, the "Little" Ivy League:
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
MIT
Rice
Stanford

There are two more openings, and I'm not really sure what goes there. Anyways,
that's a pretty good collection of schools that covers a good range of
strengths and geographic areas.

There's some consortium of colleges that includes all of the Ivies. The other
universites it includes are:
Duke
Georgetown
Johns Hopkins
MIT
Northwestern
Rice
Stanford
Chicago
Rochester
Washington

So that's ten, but I don't really know about all of those, at least for
undergraduate school, which all that I'm really concerned about now.

Macabre79 wrote:

> What schools comprise the "Little Ivies"?
>
> --Andy


Macabre79

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Apr 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/8/98
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What schools comprise the "Little Ivies"?

--Andy
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Hihohiho50

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Apr 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/8/98
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Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore & Wesleyan

Hihohiho50

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Apr 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/8/98
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Maybe Rice too???

Raanmed

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Apr 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/8/98
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>What schools comprise the "Little Ivies"?
>
>--Andy
>**************************************************

Good question. According to the Williams webpage, the Little Three, or Potted
Ivy comprise the nation's oldest continuous athletic league with a constant
membership. They are Amherst, Wesleyan and Williams. Other leagues have
included the now defunct Pentagonal Conference which included Dartmouth,
Bowdoin, plus the Little Three, and the thriving New England Small College
Athletic Association (NESCAC) which includes all the above (except Dartmouth)
plus Bates, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Trinity, and Union. However, NEVER,
repeat
NEVER refer to them as the Little Ivy League. All have eschewed the
designation since the term was highjacked by a renegade group of liberal arts
colleges 40 years ago. Rather, they see themselves as venerable purveyors of
an endangered species of education native only to America: the free-standing,
residential, liberal arts college.

A problem with the above configurations is that they all tend to exclude
Swarthmore which over the years has tended to avoid athletic contests with the
rest of the Northeast. If _I_ were making up such a league, it would certainly
include both Swarthmore and Pomona. But, the away games could be expensive.

Hope this helps. And congrats again.

--Ron

R. Chris Heck

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Apr 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/8/98
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Just to clarify, the "Little" or "Potted" Ivies are Amherst, Williams,
and Wesleyan; the designation refers only to these three and not to
any universities or Swarthmore, Haverford, etc.

--
R. Chris Heck | I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short
Amherst College '97 | one: "O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous." And God
U of Chicago | granted it. - Voltaire
Law School '00 |

Raanmed

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From: rch...@midway.uchicago.edu (R. Chris Heck)
Date: Wed, Apr 8, 1998 01:03 EDT
Message-id: <Er2wp...@midway.uchicago.edu:

>
>Just to clarify, the "Little" or "Potted" Ivies are Amherst, Williams,
>and Wesleyan; the designation refers only to these three and not to
>any universities or Swarthmore, Haverford, etc.

OR, TUFTS.

--Ron Medley

Yeechang Lee

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Apr 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/8/98
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R. Chris Heck <rch...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> Just to clarify, the "Little" or "Potted" Ivies are Amherst,
> Williams, and Wesleyan; the designation refers only to these three
> and not to any universities or Swarthmore, Haverford, etc.

Correct. On the other hand, Amherst, Swarthmore and Williams form the
holy trinity of liberal arts colleges akin to H, Y, and P in big
research universities, which may be more what Macabre79 was asking,
and nowadays what people mean when they refer to "little Ivy."
--
<URL:http://www.columbia.edu/~ylee/>

imer...@yahoo.com

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Let the Veronian speak:
Good day, good citizens

there is only the IVY LEAGUE: Harvard, Dartmouth, Yale, Princeton, Columbia,
Penn S, Cornell, and Brown.

there is no Little IVY!!!

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Raanmed

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From: yl...@columbia.edu (Yeechang Lee)
Date: Wed, Apr 8, 1998 12:48 EDT
Message-id: <slrn6inai...@watsol.cc.columbia.edu:

But, then you get into the "what about Stanford?" syndrome which for small
colleges can cover a lot of ground: Swarthmore and Pomona; Carleton and
Oberlin in the Midwest; the "what about Duke question?"any school south of the
Mason-Dixon line--Washington & Lee, Davidson, Sewanee, Hamden-Sydney. Andy
is welcome to speak for himself, but I think he was asking about the
_official_designation, not the morning line.

--Ron

Labyrint11

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>the thriving New England Small College
>Athletic Association (NESCAC) which includes all the above (except Dartmouth)
>plus Bates, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Trinity, and Union.

Actually, the NESCAC schools are:

Amherst
Bates
Bowdoin
Colby
Connecticut College
Hamilton
Middlebury
Trinity
Tufts
Wesleyan
Williams
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Sandra Lagana

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Didn't Mercutio DIE?

[hint hint]

imer...@yahoo.com

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Dear Sandra,

Are you the girl from the movie about the speed bus? hint, hint. well, you
better back off, you don't know who you are up against! the last time i
posted, you weren't even born yet! besides, literature is immortal. and I
didn't get your hint. Are you implying violence? please do not disturb the
peace of the newsgroup again:

"Rebellious Sandra, enemies to peace,
Profaner of this SOC.COLLEGE.ADMISSIONS neighborhood,
Will she not hear? What, ho! you girl, you beast,
That quench the fire of your pernicious rage
With purple fountains issuing from your veins,
On pain of torture, from those hands
Throw your mistemper'd weapons to the ground,
And hear the sentence of your moved king.
One newsgroup brawl, bred of an airy word,
By thee, Sandra,
Have once disturb'd the quiet of our newsgroup,
And made soc.college.admissions mild citizens
Cast by their grave beseeming knowledge,
To wield old partisans, in hands as old,
Canker'd with peace, to part your canker'd hate:
If ever you disturb our newsgroup again,
Your netizen rights shall pay the forfeit of the peace.
For this time, all the rest depart away:
You Sandra; shall go:
To know our further pleasure in this case,
To old Free-town, our common judgment-place.
Once more, on pain of death, all men depart.

AliNiles

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Apr 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/9/98
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>there is only the IVY LEAGUE: Harvard, Dartmouth, Yale, Princeton, Columbia,
>Penn S, Cornell, and Brown.
>
>there is no Little IVY!!!

Hey Mercutio:
As much as you would hope, Penn State is not an ivy. Oops.

--Alicia
Johns Hopkins '02
"OOGA BOOGA" - the guy on the muppets

Sandra Lagana

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Apr 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/9/98
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I'll go over this one more time, my name is Stephanie, mum is the Sandra in the
bunch. I'm glad you think I'm worth the trouble. But, truly, it makes me laugh that
you [seem to] believe I am the worst offender of the NG. Perhaps you've missed the past
3 months of posts?
I didn't get your hint either --- as far as disturbing the peace goes, you seem to be
the only disturbed [if not naturally then by my post].


steph lagana

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Macabre79

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Apr 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/10/98
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> But, truly, it makes me laugh that
>you [seem to] believe I am the worst offender of the NG. Perhaps you've
>missed the past
>3 months of posts?

Hey, are you trying to say something?

Sandra Lagana

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Apr 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/10/98
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Macabre79 wrote:
>
> > But, truly, it makes me laugh that
> >you [seem to] believe I am the worst offender of the NG. Perhaps you've
> >missed the past
> >3 months of posts?
>
> Hey, are you trying to say something?
>
> --Andy

Naw, just typing it.

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