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Leanne Townsend

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:17:27 AM10/22/01
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Well...i posted a "newbie" msg a week or so ago..and nobody has even said
hello...never mind..

The ng seems quite slow just now...nothing too stimulating..in fact quite
boring..sorry. I'll stick with you for a while and see if things pick up a
bit and we actually get some kind of conversation going..:) right now, i'm
not too impressed unfortunately.

Thanx for reading this far..xxxxxxxxx


Halford Dace

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Oct 22, 2001, 10:14:47 AM10/22/01
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Leanne Townsend <leanne_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well...i posted a "newbie" msg a week or so ago..and nobody has even said
> hello...never mind..

Gosh.

> The ng seems quite slow just now...nothing too stimulating..in fact quite
> boring..sorry. I'll stick with you for a while and see if things pick up a
> bit and we actually get some kind of conversation going..:) right now, i'm
> not too impressed unfortunately.

I'm mortified. I've been waiting here for years just to impress you
when you came. And now I've failed *sob*

Hal, really pissed off with the planet today. Scratch that, with his
boss, not the planet.

Annette

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Oct 22, 2001, 10:40:33 AM10/22/01
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"Leanne Townsend" <leanne_...@hotmail.com> skrev i melding
news:O_UA7.55232$sF.48...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...

> Well...i posted a "newbie" msg a week or so ago..and nobody has even said
> hello...never mind..

Hello. Or never mind?

> The ng seems quite slow just now...nothing too stimulating..in fact quite
> boring..sorry. I'll stick with you for a while and see if things pick up a
> bit and we actually get some kind of conversation going..:) right now, i'm
> not too impressed unfortunately.

Gee, yet another newbie expecting us to be here for their amusement.

Annette who's not here to impress you.

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 22, 2001, 11:34:04 AM10/22/01
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"Leanne Townsend" <leanne_...@hotmail.com> writes:
> The ng seems quite slow just now...nothing too stimulating..in fact quite
> boring..sorry. I'll stick with you for a while and see if things pick up a
> bit and we actually get some kind of conversation going..:) right now, i'm
> not too impressed unfortunately.

And I'm not too impressed with the quality of the newbies we've been
getting recently. Are there possible newbies who understand that they're
not special and important to us just because they're bi, or are they
all so enamored with themselves that they just assume we care about
them?

--
Naked Magic Cow Burlingham/Burlingham in 2004!
Adam Cogen Wick Parker for Pope!
aw...@bigmeanie.net

Red & Fiery

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Oct 22, 2001, 1:25:01 PM10/22/01
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Leanne Townsend <leanne_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O_UA7.55232$sF.48...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...

> Well...i posted a "newbie" msg a week or so ago..and nobody has even said
> hello...never mind..

Oops. Hello.

> The ng seems quite slow just now...nothing too stimulating..in fact quite
> boring..sorry. I'll stick with you for a while and see if things pick up a
> bit and we actually get some kind of conversation going..:) right now, i'm
> not too impressed unfortunately.

The slowness can be mostly attributed to a large proportion of us being in
New York for a party, and the rest of us sulking that we can't be there too.
You haven't been reading for long, have you? Or you'd have realised that.

As others have pointed out, we're not actually here to impress you. But
stick around for a bit longer, and you may be surprised.

Red


Ali ;-)

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Oct 22, 2001, 3:41:31 PM10/22/01
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On 22 Oct 2001 09:34:04 -0600, Naked Magic Cow <aw...@bigmeanie.net>
wrote:

>"Leanne Townsend" <leanne_...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> The ng seems quite slow just now...nothing too stimulating..in fact quite
>> boring..sorry. I'll stick with you for a while and see if things pick up a
>> bit and we actually get some kind of conversation going..:) right now, i'm
>> not too impressed unfortunately.
>
>And I'm not too impressed with the quality of the newbies we've been
>getting recently. Are there possible newbies who understand that they're
>not special and important to us just because they're bi, or are they
>all so enamored with themselves that they just assume we care about
>them?

But, but, but...

I was promised that the would would revolve around *me* this week!

Ali ;-) (Not a newbie, just a major lurker)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions and great wizards
of emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork
involved when your house lands on a witch." - Dave James

John Wilson

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Oct 22, 2001, 4:36:34 PM10/22/01
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Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
critical and pesimistic..(to those who were quite sharp..:o( in their
response to my post...) I was not wanting or in any way needing any special
attention from a bunch of total strangers...i am way more happy and secure
than that thanx...:)
I just thought it would be nice to at least feel a bit more "involved" with
the ng that's all but never mind.....hi anyway and i'm sorry for the
negative start.....not in an apology kind of way but an unfortunate kind..

I guess my last response did get some feedback so that's a start!! lol...

Leannexxxxxx


Ayana Craven

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Oct 22, 2001, 4:52:34 PM10/22/01
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In article <vq%A7.39563$uh1.5...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,

Huh. It would be helpful if you could:

- maintain a consistent name and address. Are you Leanne or John ?

- Not snip *everything* when you reply. It's considered polite to
quote the bits to which you are responding, leaving in the attribution
line (that bit up there that starts out: "In article", though it looks
different with different news posters), and putting your response
after the bit to which you're responding.

And I'd strongly suggest you read the FAQ, it'll probably help a lot
in understanding some of what goes on and some of the responses you
may get. For instance, there's a long history of self-centered,
ignorant people showing up and being upset that people take
exception to their incorrect or offensive remarks, and even more
upset that people don't rush to give them all the adoration and awe
to which they feel entitled. It's not too hard to wander in here
and look like a caricature of The Clueless Newbie, and not have any
idea of why people respond as they do.

It's a text medium, the group has a long history, what you make of
it is up to you.

Ayana, doing another "post what you want to read" article
--
I think that we have to consider the possibility that he's a
Promise Keeper.
-- Lisa, discussing soc.bi

kitz.the.plate.spinner

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Oct 22, 2001, 4:55:29 PM10/22/01
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Leanne Townsend said:

>Well...i posted a "newbie" msg a week or so ago..and nobody has even said
>hello...never mind..

Bah. That's why I forgo "newbie" messages altogether when I start posting
somewhere, there's no reason to be so formal. Besides, nobody ever replies to
them anyway because newsgroups get so many in a day, and the people rarely
stick around. It's a fruitless thing to apply yourself to, making newbies feel
welcome. If you have something to say, just say it and you'll eventually gel
into the dynamic, or you won't. IOW, wing it.

Hi, I'm kitz, this is my newbie message.

- k i t z -
"L'art est inutile. Rentrez chez vous." -Vautier
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com

kitz.the.plate.spinner

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Oct 22, 2001, 4:59:52 PM10/22/01
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Naked Magic Cow said:

>And I'm not too impressed with the quality of the newbies we've been
>getting recently.

It's like that in all the groups. Someone opened the floodgates and all of the
13 year old 3l337s got out.

>Are there possible newbies who understand that they're
>not special and important to us just because they're bi,

Nope. We newbies are self absorbed leeching fuckheads. That's the rule.
After we get beat to shit a couple of times we start to learn, but it takes a
while.

Pardon the language if it's not appropriate to this newsgroup. I haven't had a
chance to survey the lay of the land properly yet... if cussing is frowned on
here, please slap my mouth and I'll cut it out.

Ciao.

lisa cohen

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Oct 22, 2001, 5:26:39 PM10/22/01
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"kitz.the.plate.spinner" wrote:
>
> Naked Magic Cow said:
>
> >And I'm not too impressed with the quality of the newbies we've been
> >getting recently.
>
> It's like that in all the groups. Someone opened the floodgates and all of the
> 13 year old 3l337s got out.
>
> >Are there possible newbies who understand that they're
> >not special and important to us just because they're bi,
>
> Nope. We newbies are self absorbed leeching fuckheads. That's the rule.
> After we get beat to shit a couple of times we start to learn, but it takes a
> while.
>
> Pardon the language if it's not appropriate to this newsgroup. I haven't had a
> chance to survey the lay of the land properly yet... if cussing is frowned on
> here, please slap my mouth and I'll cut it out.

i'd recommend reading the FAQ since it sounds like you have yet to do
so. although i don't recall that it addresses cussing and the
like--maybe *i'd* better go reread it.

you've posted to swlab, though, haven't you? your name is familiar.

lisa

kitz.the.plate.spinner

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Oct 22, 2001, 5:39:55 PM10/22/01
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lisa said:

>i'd recommend reading the FAQ since it sounds like you have yet to do
>so. although i don't recall that it addresses cussing and the
>like--maybe *i'd* better go reread it.
>
>you've posted to swlab, though, haven't you? your name is familiar.

Yep. Pleasure to remeet :)

kitz.the.plate.spinner

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Oct 22, 2001, 5:52:35 PM10/22/01
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lisa said:

>i'd recommend reading the FAQ since it sounds like you have yet to do
>so.

Okay, I'm done. Where's my cookie ;)

It didn't say anything much beyond the typical definition of bisexuality, which
is a question I've already answered for my own purposes, but it was good
reedin. I did appreciate the acronyms thing at the bottom. Very useful.

Nice to know that there won't be endless conversations on what a "true
bisexual" is anyway... that stuff bores me to tears.

Ayana Craven

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Oct 22, 2001, 5:56:50 PM10/22/01
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In article <20011022175235...@mb-fz.aol.com>,

kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote:
>lisa said:
>
>>i'd recommend reading the FAQ since it sounds like you have yet to do
>>so.
>
>Okay, I'm done. Where's my cookie ;)

My guess is that all the cookies Bitty baked at piglet's party got
consumed before they cooled, but I wasn't there, so I can't say for
sure ... until the pictures come out.

But I don't believe soc.bi does cookies, they do muffins instead.
I'll just edge over here out of the way, in case any of the regular
crew are back from the party and heard something about a muffin...

>Nice to know that there won't be endless conversations on what a "true
>bisexual" is anyway... that stuff bores me to tears.

Oh, there's plenty of reruns to bore you to tears. But I'll be kind
and refrain from starting up one of the old chestnuts.


Ayana

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 22, 2001, 6:00:51 PM10/22/01
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"John Wilson" <wilson...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
> critical and pesimistic..

Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
keep some context ... and use just one ... account.

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 22, 2001, 6:07:26 PM10/22/01
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kitzn...@aol.com (kitz.the.plate.spinner) writes:
> Naked Magic Cow said:
> >And I'm not too impressed with the quality of the newbies we've been
> >getting recently.
> It's like that in all the groups. Someone opened the floodgates and
> all of the 13 year old 3l337s got out.

This person needs to be hanged.

> >Are there possible newbies who understand that they're
> >not special and important to us just because they're bi,
> Nope. We newbies are self absorbed leeching fuckheads.

Right!

> After we get beat to shit a couple of times we start to learn, but it
> takes a while.

Yes. This is why, after awhile, ever soc.biter is given a large
piece of wood to beat people with. I'm sure we have pictures of
Jed with his from the party.

> Pardon the language if it's not appropriate to this newsgroup.

While there certainly aren't any official limits about cussing
for the group, the convention here seems to be the "reasonable
use" found elsewhere. For one shitty example, I don't fucking
swear like I goddamn used to here, because after a fucking while
they get pretty fucking bland so you can't fucking use them for
a little damn emphasis.

> I haven't had a chance to survey the lay of the land properly yet...
> if cussing is frowned on here, please slap my mouth and I'll cut it out.

I haven't seen a flame war about cussing[1], some I'm guessing that
it's not a problem. I have started flame wars about unnecessary
ellipses, though.

[1] Interesting; my spell checker highlights 'cussing' like it
might be a possible spelling error, but is perfectly fine with
'fucking'.

lisa cohen

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Oct 22, 2001, 6:25:14 PM10/22/01
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Naked Magic Cow wrote:
>
>
> [1] Interesting; my spell checker highlights 'cussing' like it
> might be a possible spelling error, but is perfectly fine with
> 'fucking'.

apparently your spell-checker knows you well!

lisa, who's been reading too much pratchett since she almost started to
talk about sapient spell-checkers

Sandra

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Oct 22, 2001, 6:44:15 PM10/22/01
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Ayana Craven <ay...@panix.com> sat in Dunfermline town, drinking the
blood red wine, and cried:

>In article <20011022175235...@mb-fz.aol.com>,
>kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote:
>>lisa said:
>>
>>>i'd recommend reading the FAQ since it sounds like you have yet to do
>>>so.
>>
>>Okay, I'm done. Where's my cookie ;)
>
>My guess is that all the cookies Bitty baked at piglet's party got
>consumed before they cooled, but I wasn't there, so I can't say for
>sure ... until the pictures come out.
>
>But I don't believe soc.bi does cookies, they do muffins instead.
>I'll just edge over here out of the way, in case any of the regular
>crew are back from the party and heard something about a muffin...

*boing* *boing* *boing* MUFFIN!!! Wherewherewhere?

Sandra, not at party (sniff) and so getting a head start
--
San...@get.fucked.org.uk: yes, it's a real address, I swear
PolyCode: G++* F+ k-- jw? q+++++ s--? l++> NPo A++
No, I'm the *other* Sandra

Andrea Merrell

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Oct 22, 2001, 6:53:43 PM10/22/01
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Naked Magic Cow wrote in soc.bi:

> "John Wilson" <wilson...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> > Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
> > critical and pesimistic..
>
> Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
> um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
> over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
> people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
> keep some context ... and use just one ... account.

That is evil.

Andi
--
Andrea Merrell, the fluffKitten.
a ratbag scruffy femme,
caffeine addict and known hater of mornings.

Kay Dekker

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Oct 22, 2001, 7:19:22 PM10/22/01
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"Leanne Townsend" <leanne_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<O_UA7.55232$sF.48...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>...
> Well...i posted a "newbie" msg a week or so ago..and nobody has even said
> hello...never mind..

It's been kind of a busy week, what with one thing and another.

> The ng seems quite slow just now...nothing too stimulating..in fact quite
> boring..sorry. I'll stick with you for a while and see if things pick up a
> bit and we actually get some kind of conversation going..:) right now, i'm
> not too impressed unfortunately.

The newsgroup varies. Sometimes there's huge numbers of messages a
day, other times it goes quiet. This is one of those quiet times, it
seems. I suspect that some of it's because many of us have been
visiting Piglet for the soc.bi 10th anniversary party, and everyone
else has been dying of mortification :)

Kay, chez Piglet until Wednesday.

Leanne Townsend

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Oct 22, 2001, 7:45:48 PM10/22/01
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Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
> um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
> over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
> people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
> keep some context ... and use just one ... account.
>
> --
> Naked Magic Cow Burlingham/Burlingham in 2004!
> Adam Cogen Wick Parker for Pope!
> aw...@bigmeanie.net

Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much. I really don't think there was
any need for your cruel, pathetic little message. What age are you? Are you
a bitter, lonely person with little else to do? Or did i simply disgust and
annoy you so much that you had to come down on me like a ton of bricks??

Sorry to anyone i offended in the slightest...but i really don't think i
made any cruel remarks to single any one person out. I simply made a general
comment. I do understand that i shouldn't have just marched into a ng almost
demanding a response. I understand your points there fully. :o)

I think you have jumped the gun here though. I am a nice, fair,
open-minded person basically just looking for conversation, not necessarily
on bisexuality, but in a place amongst people who share "one" thing with me.
Please don't be so quick off the mark and i won't.

Oh, and by the way, i can write!!!!!!

Leanne


Leanne Townsend

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Oct 22, 2001, 7:48:56 PM10/22/01
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Sorry if i confused you when the name John showed up. We share the computer
and i often forget to change it to me.


Ayana Craven

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Oct 22, 2001, 7:59:56 PM10/22/01
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In article <Ub2B7.60855$sF.54...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,

Leanne Townsend <leanne_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
>> um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
>> over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
>> people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
>> keep some context ... and use just one ... account.
>
>Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much. I really don't think there was
>any need for your cruel, pathetic little message. What age are you? Are you
>a bitter, lonely person with little else to do? Or did i simply disgust and
>annoy you so much that you had to come down on me like a ton of bricks??

Oh-oh, we have another twit with an over-inflated sense of it's own
importance.

> Sorry to anyone i offended in the slightest...but i really don't think i
>made any cruel remarks to single any one person out. I simply made a general
>comment. I do understand that i shouldn't have just marched into a ng almost
>demanding a response. I understand your points there fully. :o)

So, what's the point of the "What age are you ?" ? Are you going to
make fun of his age if he's 96 ? Are you going to make fun of his
age if he's 14 ? What *was* the point of that, again ?

> I think you have jumped the gun here though. I am a nice, fair,
>open-minded person basically just looking for conversation, not necessarily
>on bisexuality, but in a place amongst people who share "one" thing with me.
>Please don't be so quick off the mark and i won't.

And you don't have any context for the local humor, and you appear
to be well on your way to a "bitter old queen" remark. *Nice* start !

It looks to me as though you've just proved Adam's assessment of you
as someone who isn't quite over themself. I'd hesitate to ascribe
"nice" to:


>I really don't think there was
>any need for your cruel, pathetic little message. What age are you? Are you
>a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?

But maybe "nice" means something different where you come from.

> Oh, and by the way, i can write!!!!!!

That remains to be seen. Can you manage to not delete the
attribution lines ? That would be a beginning.

Leanne Townsend

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Oct 22, 2001, 7:56:54 PM10/22/01
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> Huh. It would be helpful if you could:
>
> - maintain a consistent name and address. Are you Leanne or John ?

The "Leanne" bit at the end may be a dead give away!! lol! Point taken
though. I will remember to change it from now on.

> - Not snip *everything* when you reply. It's considered polite to
> quote the bits to which you are responding, leaving in the attribution
> line (that bit up there that starts out: "In article", though it looks
> different with different news posters), and putting your response
> after the bit to which you're responding.

Excuse me!!! What have YOU just done in reply to my post!!!! Lol. What a
joke!


> And I'd strongly suggest you read the FAQ, it'll probably help a lot
> in understanding some of what goes on and some of the responses you
> may get. For instance, there's a long history of self-centered,
> ignorant people showing up and being upset that people take
> exception to their incorrect or offensive remarks, and even more
> upset that people don't rush to give them all the adoration and awe
> to which they feel entitled. It's not too hard to wander in here
> and look like a caricature of The Clueless Newbie, and not have any
> idea of why people respond as they do.
>
> It's a text medium, the group has a long history, what you make of
> it is up to you.

Fair play. I can see your point here. Point taken. Flame war over, thanx.
Leanne

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 22, 2001, 8:05:20 PM10/22/01
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"Leanne Townsend" <leanne_...@hotmail.com> writes:

> I wrote:
> > Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
> > um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
> > over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
> > people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
> > keep some context ... and use just one ... account.
> Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much.

I can live with that.

> I really don't think there was any need for your cruel, pathetic
> little message.

Pathetic? I thought it was quite well executed, myself, and obviously
I thought there was a need. Once again you seem to feel that your
beliefs are more important than mine.

> What age are you?

23.

> Are you a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?

Nope.

> Or did i simply disgust and
> annoy you so much that you had to come down on me like a ton of bricks??

Something like that.

> I am a nice, fair,
> open-minded person basically just looking for conversation, not necessarily
> on bisexuality, but in a place amongst people who share "one" thing with me.

Many people who read and post to this group are not bisexual and/or not
nice.

> Oh, and by the way, i can write!!!!!!

That just needed to be quoted.

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 22, 2001, 8:05:51 PM10/22/01
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Andrea Merrell <an...@fluffkitten.com> writes:
> Naked Magic Cow wrote in soc.bi:
> > "John Wilson" <wilson...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> > > Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
> > > critical and pesimistic..
> > Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
> > um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
> > over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
> > people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
> > keep some context ... and use just one ... account.
> That is evil.

From you, I consider that high praise.

Leanne Townsend

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Oct 22, 2001, 8:12:20 PM10/22/01
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Listen, i am sorry to have annoyed you. Can we at least start again. I think
you'll find i'm not normally like this.

I think i can take offense too easily and be too sensitive but, i can
assure you, i'm not in any way "up myself". If you get me. I don't think i'm
anything special or deserve a thing from any of you guys, ok? Let's please
end this flame war now if we can.....

Leanne


Joe44551

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:05:37 PM10/22/01
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>Well...i posted a "newbie" msg a week or so ago..and nobody has even said
>hello...never mind..
>
>The ng seems quite slow just now...nothing too stimulating..in fact quite
>boring..sorry.

Leanne, if you lurk here for a day or two, you will notice that the group
consists of 1- 6 trolls who talk to themselves a lot. Mr. Cow is the wittiest
of the bunch, followed closely by Mr. Greenjeans, but they may be the same
person. The females are a surly lot, usually mad at everyone, and they snort
and spit.
When the recess bell rings, uh, well, best left unsaid..

Ayana Craven

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:12:07 PM10/22/01
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In article <gm2B7.60936$sF.54...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
Leanne Townsend <leanne_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[actually, *I* wrote, and Leanne deleted the attribution line]

>> Huh. It would be helpful if you could:
>>
>> - maintain a consistent name and address. Are you Leanne or John ?
>
> The "Leanne" bit at the end may be a dead give away!! lol! Point taken
>though. I will remember to change it from now on.
>
>> - Not snip *everything* when you reply. It's considered polite to
>> quote the bits to which you are responding, leaving in the attribution
>> line (that bit up there that starts out: "In article", though it looks
>> different with different news posters), and putting your response
>> after the bit to which you're responding.
>
>Excuse me!!! What have YOU just done in reply to my post!!!! Lol. What a
>joke!

Well, *I* left in the attribution lines and your text. Which you
deleted. It looked like this :

begin quoted article
*******************************************************************


In article <vq%A7.39563$uh1.5...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
John Wilson <wilson...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
>critical and pesimistic..(to those who were quite sharp..:o( in their
>response to my post...) I was not wanting or in any way needing any special
>attention from a bunch of total strangers...i am way more happy and secure
>than that thanx...:)
>I just thought it would be nice to at least feel a bit more "involved" with
>the ng that's all but never mind.....hi anyway and i'm sorry for the
>negative start.....not in an apology kind of way but an unfortunate kind..
>
>I guess my last response did get some feedback so that's a start!! lol...
>
>Leannexxxxxx

Huh. It would be helpful if you could:

- maintain a consistent name and address. Are you Leanne or John ?

*********************************************************
end quoted article

Why you felt the need to remove it and pretend that I had done so, I
have no idea. If that's your level of humor, I'm afraid you may not
get many chuckles. If you need help with your newsreader, you can
ask questions here and likely get useful answers.

[]


>> It's a text medium, the group has a long history, what you make of
>> it is up to you.
>
>Fair play. I can see your point here. Point taken. Flame war over, thanx.

Hm, I didn't see any flame war.


Ayana

Ayana Craven

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:16:52 PM10/22/01
to
In article <KA2B7.61015$sF.54...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,

I think this was one of Beth's Usenet Hints, but as usual I don't
have it on file, so I'll paraphrase:

The best way to edn a flame war is ignore it, post to other threads
on other topics, and conduct yourself in a way that you're proud of.
That includes resisting the temptation to respond to every article
that is a response to you -- remember that Usenet isn't
deterministic, so a person may see some articles and not yet see
others, so if you've said something stupid and then retracted it,
you may still see replies to your first post that ignore the
retraction -- that may be because they haven't *seen* the
retraction. Or the clarification, or apology, or the long, incisive
and beautiful rant that you posted just before your computer
crashed, which is now probably a pile of rusty bits in the server
room.


Ayana, currently contemplating a hostile takeover of UPS, who seem
to be utterly incapable of delivering packages

Ayana Craven

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:23:37 PM10/22/01
to
In article <20011022210537...@mb-ct.aol.com>,

Ah, actually, if anybody hasn't been here for a week or so, be aware
that there's one or more trolls posting from throwaway accounts, and
one or more individuals who try to forge articles as though they
came from other people. The forgeries are usually flagged because
the headers contain the message that the article has passed through
an anonymous gateway, and so the apparent sender of the article is
not, in fact, the actual sender. But if you aren't familiar with
Usenet and newsreader software, you might not be able to pick out
the forgeries. You can always ask. This is a pretty decent place
to get an education on such matters.

Ayana, who'd almost like to see aol quarantined, but it wouldn't
actually remove the problem

Loki

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:09:39 PM10/22/01
to
Naked Magic Cow wrote:


> And I'm not too impressed with the quality of the newbies we've been

> getting recently. Are there possible newbies who understand that they're
> not special and important to us just because they're bi, or are they
> all so enamored with themselves that they just assume we care about
> them?


I see Ann has gotten to you.

--
Loki
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Homepage http://www.geocities.com/parsonswont
ICQ Number 124522078
Live Webcam http://995598361.camarades.com/

Loki

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:12:11 PM10/22/01
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lisa cohen wrote:


> i'd recommend reading the FAQ since it sounds like you have yet to do
> so. although i don't recall that it addresses cussing and the
> like--maybe *i'd* better go reread it.

"Reread it".

Right.

Loki

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:13:43 PM10/22/01
to
Andrea Merrell wrote:

> Naked Magic Cow wrote in soc.bi:
>
>> "John Wilson" <wilson...@ntlworld.com> writes:
>>
>>>Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
>>>critical and pesimistic..
>>>
>>
>> Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
>> um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
>> over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
>> people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
>> keep some context ... and use just one ... account.
>>
>
> That is evil.

I think....imitation...is the....sincerest...
form...of flattery.

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:31:34 PM10/22/01
to
Loki <slapp...@atl.mediaone.net> writes:
> Naked Magic Cow wrote:
> > And I'm not too impressed with the quality of the newbies we've been
> > getting recently. Are there possible newbies who understand that they're
> > not special and important to us just because they're bi, or are they
> > all so enamored with themselves that they just assume we care about
> > them?
> I see Ann has gotten to you.

I *knew* she slipped something in my drink.

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:32:43 PM10/22/01
to
lisa cohen <lco...@midway.uchicago.edu> writes:
> Naked Magic Cow wrote:
> > [1] Interesting; my spell checker highlights 'cussing' like it
> > might be a possible spelling error, but is perfectly fine with
> > 'fucking'.
> apparently your spell-checker knows you well!

We've been together a long time.

Loki

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:15:45 PM10/22/01
to
Naked Magic Cow wrote:

> "Leanne Townsend" <leanne_...@hotmail.com> writes:

>>Are you a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?

> Nope.

Oh yes...you are.

Larry Kessler

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:33:39 PM10/22/01
to
On 22 Oct 2001 18:05:20 -0600, Naked Magic Cow <aw...@bigmeanie.net>
wrote:

>Many people who read and post to this group are not bisexual and/or not
>nice.

That much is certain.

--
"I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense,
reason, and intellect, had intended for us to forgo their use." - Galileo

Kay Dekker

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:49:38 PM10/22/01
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kitzn...@aol.com (kitz.the.plate.spinner) wrote in message news:<20011022165529...@mb-ca.aol.com>...
> Hi, I'm kitz, this is my newbie message.

Hi kitz, welcome aboard.

Kay

Larry Kessler

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Oct 22, 2001, 9:38:03 PM10/22/01
to

Some Outlook Express can handle multiple identities; this makes it
easier to switch posting names, .sig file settings, newsgroup
subscriptions etc.

If one simply cannot stomach OE as a newsreader, or can't remember to
switch identities after startting it up, I suggest that each person
use a different newsreader. WinVN and Agent are both pretty good.

Jed Davis

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Oct 22, 2001, 10:26:32 PM10/22/01
to
ay...@panix.com (Ayana Craven) writes:

> In article <20011022175235...@mb-fz.aol.com>,
> kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote:
> >lisa said:
> >

> >>i'd recommend reading the FAQ since it sounds like you have yet to do
> >>so.
> >

> >Okay, I'm done. Where's my cookie ;)
>
> My guess is that all the cookies Bitty baked at piglet's party got
> consumed before they cooled, but I wasn't there, so I can't say for
> sure ... until the pictures come out.

No, there were definitely cooled cookies at various points. Although
I wish I'd snagged more of those wonderful cinnamon ones (those were
Bitty's, right?) while I could...

> But I don't believe soc.bi does cookies, they do muffins instead.
> I'll just edge over here out of the way, in case any of the regular
> crew are back from the party and heard something about a muffin...

I, for one, am too tired from the hour[24] of bicycling required to
get from the Greyhound[-1] node back to my room to be leaping after
muffins.

--Jed, whose footnotes have run away...

[24] 40 minutes for the bike path itself, but more time to get from
there to/from my actual source/destination. And then there's... well,
all I'll say here is that it's worth at least one purity-test
question.

@@@ Warning: rather less light-hearted footnotes begin here @@@

[-1] Now, had I known they'd banned all edged metal items, and were
searching[-4] people's bags[-9] and persons for same, after a
hijacking incident where a driver was killed (on top of, of course,
That[-12]) I might have thought to take my Leatherman Micra off of my
keys before leaving --- as it was I running around at the last minute
and barely got everything packed in time --- but I didn't, and I
didn't, and they confiscated it, and now they may well have lost it.
Figures.

[-4] I found this out while waiting in line for my transfer in
Cleveland by dint of seeing security guards coming up the line using
wand metal detectors and poking through people's bags. No actual
formal announcement/warning that they'd be doing this, mind you.

[-9] Not very thoroughly. I'm fairly certain that, had I been trying
to hide a *real* knife (i.e. not the <1.5-inch one on my lost
Leatherman), or a bomb, or a gun, that it would have gone unnoticed.

[-12] Which reminds me: I'm convinced that the Muddle-Headed Wombat is
meant to symbolize the US in an unflattering way.

--
# "But life wasn't yes-no, on-off. Life was shades of gray, and rainbows
# not in the order of the spectrum." -- L. E. Modesitt, Jr., _Adiamante_
sub f{(($n,$d,@_)=@_)?(substr(" ExhortJavelinBus",$n&&$d/$n,1),$n?f($d%$n,$
n,@_):&f):("\n")}print f 1461,10324,55001,444162,1208,1341,5660480,79715997

Beth Slinker

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Oct 22, 2001, 10:39:56 PM10/22/01
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Ayana Craven wrote:
> In article <KA2B7.61015$sF.54...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
> Leanne Townsend <leanne_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[...]


>>anything special or deserve a thing from any of you guys, ok? Let's please
>>end this flame war now if we can.....

> I think this was one of Beth's Usenet Hints, but as usual I don't
> have it on file, so I'll paraphrase:

> The best way to edn a flame war is ignore it, post to other threads
> on other topics, and conduct yourself in a way that you're proud of.

[...]

Good stuff, but not mine.

I did write Blinker's Foot-From-Mouth-Removal Guide, which goes
something like this (I don't have it on file either):
1. Say you're sorry
2. Resist the temptation to explain
3. No, really, resist the temptation to explain
4. Talk about something (anything) else

-Beth, taking a break from hanging out with Ann and Jason (who arrived at
Chez Slinker late last night)

--
Beth Linker Ann B. for President!
bli...@panix.com Burlingham/Burlingham in 2004!
http://www.panix.com/~blinker

kitz.the.plate.spinner

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Oct 22, 2001, 10:51:56 PM10/22/01
to
Leanne Townsend said:

>Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much. I really don't think there was
>any need for your cruel, pathetic little message. What age are you? Are you
>a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?

Newbie overboard!

- k i t z -
"L'art est inutile. Rentrez chez vous." -Vautier
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com

Jed Davis

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Oct 22, 2001, 10:56:32 PM10/22/01
to
Andrea Merrell <an...@fluffkitten.com> writes:

> Naked Magic Cow wrote in soc.bi:
> > "John Wilson" <wilson...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> > > Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
> > > critical and pesimistic..
> >
> > Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
> > um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
> > over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
> > people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
> > keep some context ... and use just one ... account.
>
> That is evil.

I quite enjoyed it, actually.

--Jed, still thinking in the voices of various Piglet-partygoers.

kitz.the.plate.spinner

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Oct 22, 2001, 10:57:02 PM10/22/01
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Kay said:

>Hi kitz, welcome aboard.

Fanks :)

Ayana Craven

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Oct 22, 2001, 11:14:20 PM10/22/01
to
In article <20011022225156...@mb-de.aol.com>,

kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote:
>Leanne Townsend said:
>
>>Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much. I really don't think there was
>>any need for your cruel, pathetic little message. What age are you? Are you
>>a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?
>
>Newbie overboard!

Okay, you made me laugh, even though I'm still working and seem to
have misplaced my gf.


Ayana

Ayana Craven

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:01:49 AM10/23/01
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In article <y6y8ze3...@eden.cs.utah.edu>,

Naked Magic Cow <aw...@bigmeanie.net> wrote:
>ay...@panix.com (Ayana Craven) writes:
>> In article <20011022225156...@mb-de.aol.com>,
>> kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >Leanne Townsend said:
>> >>Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much. I really don't think there was
>> >>any need for your cruel, pathetic little message. What age are you? Are you
>> >>a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?
>> >Newbie overboard!

I *love* this. Kitz, can I borrow it ?

>> Okay, you made me laugh, even though I'm still working and seem to
>> have misplaced my gf.
>

>She's over there.

Well, she actually came home. I'd forgotten that choir practice had
moved to Monday nights. It says something, though, that I waited
until after 10 pm to call her at work to say plaintively "Aren't you
coming home, dear ?"


Ayana, the poor dog didn't get fed until I'd realized was choir
night (well, neither did I)

Loki

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Oct 22, 2001, 11:45:41 PM10/22/01
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Beth Slinker wrote:


> -Beth, taking a break from hanging out with Ann and Jason (who arrived at
> Chez Slinker late last night)

You live on a farm?

ele...@student.unimelb.edu.au

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Oct 22, 2001, 11:51:36 PM10/22/01
to
On 22 Oct 2001, Naked Magic Cow wrote:

> And I'm not too impressed with the quality of the newbies we've been
> getting recently. Are there possible newbies who understand that they're
> not special and important to us just because they're bi, or are they

I'm not? *sniff*

> all so enamored with themselves that they just assume we care about
> them?

I'm so enamoured with myself I don't need to assume other people care
about me. :-)

Katisha.

Loki

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Oct 22, 2001, 11:46:45 PM10/22/01
to
Jed Davis wrote:

> Andrea Merrell <an...@fluffkitten.com> writes:
>
>
>>Naked Magic Cow wrote in soc.bi:
>>
>>> "John Wilson" <wilson...@ntlworld.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
>>>>critical and pesimistic..
>>>>
>>>
>>> Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
>>> um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
>>> over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
>>> people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
>>> keep some context ... and use just one ... account.
>>>
>>That is evil.
>>
>
> I quite enjoyed it, actually.


For some reason it's now reminding me of
Stevie from "Malcom in the Middle".

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 22, 2001, 11:56:53 PM10/22/01
to
ay...@panix.com (Ayana Craven) writes:
> In article <20011022225156...@mb-de.aol.com>,
> kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote:
> >Leanne Townsend said:
> >>Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much. I really don't think there was
> >>any need for your cruel, pathetic little message. What age are you? Are you
> >>a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?
> >Newbie overboard!
> Okay, you made me laugh, even though I'm still working and seem to
> have misplaced my gf.

She's over there.

Loki

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Oct 22, 2001, 11:48:07 PM10/22/01
to
Ayana Craven wrote:

> In article <20011022225156...@mb-de.aol.com>,
> kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Leanne Townsend said:
>>
>>
>>>Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much. I really don't think there was
>>>any need for your cruel, pathetic little message. What age are you? Are you
>>>a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?
>>>
>>Newbie overboard!
>>
>
> Okay, you made me laugh, even though I'm still working and seem to
> have misplaced my gf.


Most likely the wench is hanging out at some pub
throwing back brewskis in celebration of the Brave's
defeat at the hands of the "Big Unit".

Loki

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Oct 22, 2001, 11:42:28 PM10/22/01
to
Naked Magic Cow wrote:

> Loki <slapp...@atl.mediaone.net> writes:

>>I see Ann has gotten to you.
> I *knew* she slipped something in my drink.


Oh *that* was most likely a combination of
rohypnol and spanish fly.

The warping of your mind probably occurred
later.

Andrea Merrell

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:20:05 AM10/23/01
to
Jed Davis wrote in soc.bi:

> Andrea Merrell <an...@fluffkitten.com> writes:
> > Naked Magic Cow wrote in soc.bi:
> > > "John Wilson" <wilson...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> > > > Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
> > > > critical and pesimistic..
> > > Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
> > > um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
> > > over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
> > > people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
> > > keep some context ... and use just one ... account.
> > That is evil.
>
> I quite enjoyed it, actually.

So did I but its still evil. Or maybe its just Adam has gone all
dotty.



> --Jed, still thinking in the voices of various Piglet-partygoers.

/me glares jealously at Jed.

Andi
--
Andrea Merrell, the fluffKitten.
a ratbag scruffy femme,
caffeine addict and known hater of mornings.

lisa cohen

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:28:41 AM10/23/01
to
Ayana Craven wrote:
>
<mising gf>
> Well, she actually came home.

of course she did.

>I'd forgotten that choir practice had
> moved to Monday nights. It says something, though, that I waited
> until after 10 pm to call her at work to say plaintively "Aren't you
> coming home, dear ?"

it says that you should have called an hour earlier--i don't think i've
ever worked past 9:00, have i?

not that that would have helped since my voice message did not get
changed to say "am currently at choir practice, please leave a message."

lisa, who has a sore throat from all the B flats she had to sing after
talking to auditors all day

kitz.the.plate.spinner

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:33:29 AM10/23/01
to
Ayana said:

>>> >Newbie overboard!
>
>I *love* this. Kitz, can I borrow it ?

Sure ;)

>Well, she actually came home. I'd forgotten that choir practice had
>moved to Monday nights.

Ooo, choir. Do re mi! ;)



- k i t z -

"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -Picasso

lisa cohen

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:32:38 AM10/23/01
to
Loki wrote:
>
> Ayana Craven wrote:
>
> > In article <20011022225156...@mb-de.aol.com>,
> > kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Leanne Townsend said:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much. I really don't think there was
> >>>any need for your cruel, pathetic little message. What age are you? Are you
> >>>a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?
> >>>
> >>Newbie overboard!
> >>
> >
> > Okay, you made me laugh, even though I'm still working and seem to
> > have misplaced my gf.
>
> Most likely the wench is hanging out at some pub
> throwing back brewskis in celebration of the Brave's
> defeat at the hands of the "Big Unit".

that does sound *just* *like* *me*! except for the part about the pub
and the brewskis.

lisa, glad that she can root for ex-cubs mark grace and luis gonzalez in
the series

lisa cohen

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:44:07 AM10/23/01
to
Leanne Townsend wrote:
>
<reinserting: ayana craven wrote>
> > Huh. It would be helpful if you could:
> >
<>
> > - Not snip *everything* when you reply. It's considered polite to
> > quote the bits to which you are responding, leaving in the attribution
> > line (that bit up there that starts out: "In article", though it looks
> > different with different news posters), and putting your response
> > after the bit to which you're responding.
>
> Excuse me!!! What have YOU just done in reply to my post!!!! Lol. What a
> joke!

do you see the part up top of this post where the words "Leanne Townsend
wrote" appear? that's the attribution and that's the part that you keep
snipping that tells everyone who wrote the words that appear in your
posts to which you are responding. i've gone back in above and added
the words <reinserting: ayana craven wrote> because you are responding
to a post that she made and it is considered thoughtful to leave in that
information--it helps people to follow the conversations around here
better.

lisa

lisa cohen

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:46:34 AM10/23/01
to
Loki wrote:

>
> lisa cohen wrote:
>
>
> > i'd recommend reading the FAQ since it sounds like you have yet to do
> > so. although i don't recall that it addresses cussing and the
> > like--maybe *i'd* better go reread it.
>
> "Reread it".
>
> Right.

hey--ask me about nutella! bbq ripple ice cream (which i don't think
i've ever seen mentioned in an actual post although i may have repressed
it)! muffins! go ahead--i'm ready for you.

lisa

lisa cohen

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:48:32 AM10/23/01
to
Loki wrote:
>
>
> I think....imitation...is the....sincerest...
> form...of flattery.

i think flattery is the sincerest form of flattery, you big stud, you.

lisa

Kathryn Burlingham

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Oct 23, 2001, 1:02:35 AM10/23/01
to
Beth Slinker wrote:
>
> -Beth, taking a break from hanging out with Ann and Jason (who arrived at
> Chez Slinker late last night)

It's so fun to get all these little progress reports. Mara called
yesterday and gave me Ann's messages. Please tell Ann "Did too!" and
"No!" You could throw in a "So there!" for good measure.

David Weinshenker

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Oct 23, 2001, 1:11:15 AM10/23/01
to
lisa cohen wrote:
> bbq ripple ice cream (which i don't think
> i've ever seen mentioned in an actual post

I've seen it once or twice here - I think there
was some discussion of the proper recipe to
actually make it (but, alas, I don't quite
remember what the issues were: something about
the proper degree of sweetness for the "barbecue"
part, perhaps?)

-dave w

Loki

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Oct 23, 2001, 1:14:10 AM10/23/01
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Ayana Craven wrote:


> Ayana, the poor dog didn't get fed until I'd realized was choir
> night (well, neither did I)


<sitting on hands>

Loki

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Oct 23, 2001, 1:15:46 AM10/23/01
to
lisa cohen wrote:

Oh I'm sure that you are now that you actually read the thing.

Annette

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Oct 23, 2001, 1:20:05 AM10/23/01
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"Naked Magic Cow" <aw...@bigmeanie.net> skrev i melding
news:y6y8ze3...@eden.cs.utah.edu...

> "John Wilson" <wilson...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> > Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
> > critical and pesimistic..
>
> Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
> um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
> over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
> people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
> keep some context ... and use just one ... account.

*shudder*

Annette

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Oct 23, 2001, 1:29:13 AM10/23/01
to

"Leanne Townsend" <leanne_...@hotmail.com> skrev

> Listen, i am sorry to have annoyed you. Can we at least start again. I
think
> you'll find i'm not normally like this.
>
> I think i can take offense too easily and be too sensitive but, i can
> assure you, i'm not in any way "up myself". If you get me. I don't think
i'm


> anything special or deserve a thing from any of you guys, ok? Let's please
> end this flame war now if we can.....

As Ayana and Beth said - just drop this particular dicussion.

Btw why do you insist on dropping attributions? It is very rude, and it
makes your posts into monologues not dialogues.

Larry Kessler

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Oct 23, 2001, 1:28:12 AM10/23/01
to
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:38:03 GMT, I wrote:

>Some Outlook Express can handle multiple identities [snip]

I *hate* when I do this. Sloppy editing. It started out to say "some
newsreaders" but then I looked at her header and substituted OE and
managed to miss removing the "some". Maybe Loki is not the only
slappyhead around here...

--
"I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense,
reason, and intellect, had intended for us to forgo their use." - Galileo

Annette

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"Loki" <slapp...@atl.mediaone.net> skrev i melding
news:3BD4FE3A...@atl.mediaone.net...

> Ayana Craven wrote:
>
>
> > Ayana, the poor dog didn't get fed until I'd realized was choir
> > night (well, neither did I)
>
>
> <sitting on hands>

*laughs*

Annette impressed


diana colavita

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Oct 23, 2001, 2:42:02 AM10/23/01
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Ayana wrote:

>Okay, you made me laugh, even though I'm still working and seem to
>have misplaced my gf.

oh no, that's never a good thing. did you check the catch-all basket by the
door? that's where i usually find things i'm missing. oh and when you do find
her, ask her if she's seen my missing two tarot cards in her travels.

diana, hoping that there are no mystic ramifications for being unorganised and
a space cadet.
--
diana
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is; I only
know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that
differentiate me from a doormat. - Rebecca West, 1913

Ned Deily

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Oct 23, 2001, 2:47:27 AM10/23/01
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KathrynB:

Hmmm, "Pilgrims' Progress". Now I have an eyeworm of Ann and Jason
with hats and breeches and muskets. Maybe we can roast a turkey
next weekend.

--E gobble gobble D, back home for 9 hours
--
Ned Deily,
n...@visi.com -- []

Ned Deily

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Oct 23, 2001, 2:50:29 AM10/23/01
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AdamW:
>Loki:

>>I see Ann has gotten to you.
>I *knew* she slipped something in my drink.

Magic fingers.

Sandra

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Oct 23, 2001, 4:00:45 AM10/23/01
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Larry Kessler <l_k_e_s_s_l_e_r@w_t_._n_e_t> sat in Dunfermline town,
drinking the blood red wine, and cried:
>On 22 Oct 2001 18:05:20 -0600, Naked Magic Cow <aw...@bigmeanie.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Many people who read and post to this group are not bisexual and/or not
>>nice.
>
>That much is certain.

Whatever happened to the campaign (incepted a few Bicons ago) to get
people to use 'nice' as a synonym for 'bisexual' as 'gay' is for
'homosexual'?

Sandra
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Robert S. Coren

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Oct 23, 2001, 10:21:24 AM10/23/01
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In article <3BD4F1F9...@midway.uchicago.edu>,

lisa cohen <lco...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
>not that that would have helped since my voice message did not get
>changed to say "am currently at choir practice, please leave a message."
>
>lisa, who has a sore throat from all the B flats she had to sing after
>talking to auditors all day

Heh. Our rehearsal last night ended early -- partly because it was the
first rehearsal for a concert, and those always seem to end early (I
don't know why), but mostly because our conductor had terrible
laryngitis and could scarcely make a sound. By 9:00 or so everybody's
throat was hurting in sympathy.

P.S. I'm sure my voice teacher would say that if the B flats hurt
your throat you're not doing them right.

--
---Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)--(or try net instead of com)-------
Aw, well... I guess some of us talks too much, anyway.
--Rackety Coon Chile (Walt Kelly)

Beth Slinker

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Oct 23, 2001, 10:39:57 AM10/23/01
to
Ned Deily wrote:
> KathrynB:

>>>-Beth, taking a break from hanging out with Ann and Jason (who arrived at
>>>Chez Slinker late last night)

>>It's so fun to get all these little progress reports. Mara called
>>yesterday and gave me Ann's messages. Please tell Ann "Did too!" and
>>"No!" You could throw in a "So there!" for good measure.

Okay, will do.

> Hmmm, "Pilgrims' Progress". Now I have an eyeworm of Ann and Jason
> with hats and breeches and muskets. Maybe we can roast a turkey
> next weekend.

We almost did that last night, but then Kelly was tired so she made
french toast for dinner instead.

-Beth

--
Beth Linker Ann B. for President!
bli...@panix.com Burlingham/Burlingham in 2004!
http://www.panix.com/~blinker

lisa cohen

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:21:01 PM10/23/01
to
"Robert S. Coren" wrote:
>
<>
>
> P.S. I'm sure my voice teacher would say that if the B flats hurt
> your throat you're not doing them right.

quite frankly, by the end of the evening, middle C was giving me
trouble. but yes, i tend to tense up when i see the score heading for a
high note--i need to take them in stride--and after the first few times
when you know you can get there okay, they become easier rather than
harder.

lisa, better now

Jed Davis

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:57:24 PM10/23/01
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Andrea Merrell <an...@fluffkitten.com> writes:

> Jed Davis wrote in soc.bi:
>

> > --Jed, still thinking in the voices of various Piglet-partygoers.
>
> /me glares jealously at Jed.

Eep!

--Jed, contentlessly

--
# "But life wasn't yes-no, on-off. Life was shades of gray, and rainbows
# not in the order of the spectrum." -- L. E. Modesitt, Jr., _Adiamante_
sub f{(($n,$d,@_)=@_)?(substr(" ExhortJavelinBus",$n&&$d/$n,1),$n?f($d%$n,$
n,@_):&f):("\n")}print f 1461,10324,55001,444162,1208,1341,5660480,79715997

Jed Davis

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Oct 23, 2001, 12:57:24 PM10/23/01
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Loki <slapp...@atl.mediaone.net> writes:

> Most likely the wench is hanging out at some pub
> throwing back brewskis in celebration of the Brave's
> defeat at the hands of the "Big Unit".

Which reminds me: while I was at Piglet's, Oberlin's football team
*won* *a* *game*. For the first time in $DEITY-only-knows-how-many
years. The Apocalypse is nigh!

--Jed, looking out for bits of falling sky...

Annette

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Oct 23, 2001, 1:22:48 PM10/23/01
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"lisa cohen" <lco...@midway.uchicago.edu> skrev i melding
news:3BD598ED...@midway.uchicago.edu...

This sounds like me trying to hit *any* tone. Seriously :)

> lisa, better now

That's good.


Gwendolyn Alden Dean

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Oct 23, 2001, 2:16:34 PM10/23/01
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Leanne Townsend wrote:
> Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much.

Too bad for you -- the Royal We adores him.

> I really don't think there was any need for your cruel, pathetic > little message.

Self-absorbed twits need a good whack.

> I think you have jumped the gun here though. I am a nice, fair,
> open-minded person

That's not for you to decide.

> Please don't be so quick off the mark and i won't.

We don't take instruction well.

> Oh, and by the way, i can write!!!!!!

That's also not for you to decide.

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 23, 2001, 3:10:19 PM10/23/01
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Sandra <san...@get.fucked.org.uk> writes:
> Larry Kessler <l_k_e_s_s_l_e_r@w_t_._n_e_t> sat in Dunfermline town,
> drinking the blood red wine, and cried:
> >On 22 Oct 2001 18:05:20 -0600, Naked Magic Cow <aw...@bigmeanie.net>
> >wrote:
> >>Many people who read and post to this group are not bisexual and/or not
> >>nice.
> >That much is certain.
> Whatever happened to the campaign (incepted a few Bicons ago) to get
> people to use 'nice' as a synonym for 'bisexual' as 'gay' is for
> 'homosexual'?

I think I'd have trouble self-identifying that way. Plus I think
'content' would be more appropriate.

--
Naked Magic Cow Burlingham/Burlingham in 2004!
Adam Cogen Wick Parker for Pope!
aw...@bigmeanie.net

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 23, 2001, 3:11:38 PM10/23/01
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Loki <slapp...@atl.mediaone.net> writes:
> Naked Magic Cow wrote:

> > Loki <slapp...@atl.mediaone.net> writes:
> >>I see Ann has gotten to you.
> > I *knew* she slipped something in my drink.
> Oh *that* was most likely a combination of
> rohypnol and spanish fly.

I'm beginning to suspect that there may have been alcohol in that
punch we were drinking. I thought they were just using non-alcoholic
wine.

> The warping of your mind probably occurred later.

My mind has been warped for years.

Naked Magic Cow

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Oct 23, 2001, 3:11:54 PM10/23/01
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ele...@student.unimelb.edu.au writes:
> On 22 Oct 2001, Naked Magic Cow wrote:
> > And I'm not too impressed with the quality of the newbies we've been
> > getting recently. Are there possible newbies who understand that they're
> > not special and important to us just because they're bi, or are they
> I'm not? *sniff*

Sorry.

> > all so enamored with themselves that they just assume we care about
> > them?
> I'm so enamoured with myself I don't need to assume other people care
> about me. :-)

Heh.

Robert S. Coren

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Oct 23, 2001, 3:29:20 PM10/23/01
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In article <9r42j0$n8l$1...@news.panix.com>, Super Bitty <bi...@panix.com> wrote:
>Basking in today's glorious sunshine, lisa cohen <lco...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
>> lisa, glad that she can root for ex-cubs mark grace and luis gonzalez in
>
> wow, i haven't seen that name in ages.
> i had *such* the crush on mark grace in middle school (the cubs
>had a farm team in my hometown at the time).

I hadn't seen Mark Grace in a while... I mostly remember him from the
1989 playoffs. He's not as young as he was (but then, few of us are).

--Robert, who had trouble getting his brain around the shots of Paul
McCartney at Yankee Stadium, speaking of people who are not as young
as one remembers them


--
---Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)--(or try net instead of com)-------

"...and in the Eighth Square we shall be Queens together, and it's all
feasting and fun!" --Lewis Carroll, _Through the Looking Glass_

Beetlebau

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Oct 23, 2001, 3:40:44 PM10/23/01
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Andrea Merrell <an...@fluffkitten.com> wrote in message news:<slrn9t9rr...@kitten.fluffkitten.com>...

> Jed Davis wrote in soc.bi:
> > Andrea Merrell <an...@fluffkitten.com> writes:
> > > Naked Magic Cow wrote in soc.bi:

> > > > "John Wilson" <wilson...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> > > > > Emmm... i think you must have picked me up wrong...or are simply very
> > > > > critical and pesimistic..
> > > > Being ... critical ... and pessimistic ... is nothing but a ....
> > > > um ... instinctive reaction .... to people who aren't quite ...
> > > > over themselves .... and certainly ... can't write ... Also ...
> > > > people who don't lurk a little ... so they don't know ... to
> > > > keep some context ... and use just one ... account.
> > > That is evil.
> >
> > I quite enjoyed it, actually.
>
> So did I but its still evil. Or maybe its just Adam has gone all
> dotty.
>

Years ago at Swain Hall Library I found a book that quoted Einstein to
justify having the speed of light as variable in a calculation. The
quote went something like, "The ... speed of light ... is ...
variable."

Beetlebau

Red & Fiery

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Oct 23, 2001, 4:28:07 AM10/23/01
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> Hi, I'm kitz, this is my newbie message.
>
> - k i t z -

The same Kitz who posts on swlab?

Red & Fiery, just wondering


Red & Fiery

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Oct 23, 2001, 4:31:16 AM10/23/01
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kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20011022175235...@mb-fz.aol.com...
> Nice to know that there won't be endless conversations on what a "true
> bisexual" is anyway... that stuff bores me to tears.

*snigger*
I think this one may be a keeper!

Red


Red & Fiery

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Oct 23, 2001, 4:34:11 AM10/23/01
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lisa cohen <lco...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
news:3BD49CCA...@midway.uchicago.edu...
> apparently your spell-checker knows you well!
>
> lisa, who's been reading too much pratchett since she almost started to
> talk about sapient spell-checkers

*splurt*

Do you *mind* not making me laugh when I'm eating breakfast??? My monitor
now has Coco Pops dripping off it! (Do you USAns get Coco Pops, BTW?
Yummy).

Red


Red & Fiery

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Oct 23, 2001, 4:29:25 AM10/23/01
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kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20011022165952...@mb-ca.aol.com...
> Pardon the language if it's not appropriate to this newsgroup. I haven't
had a
> chance to survey the lay of the land properly yet... if cussing is frowned
on
> here, please slap my mouth and I'll cut it out.

If swearing were frowned on here, I'd hardly ever get to say anything...

Red, foulmouthed female


Red & Fiery

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Oct 23, 2001, 4:52:03 AM10/23/01
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kitz.the.plate.spinner <kitzn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Leanne Townsend said:
>
> >Well "Magic cow", i don't like you very much. I really don't think there
was
> >any need for your cruel, pathetic little message. What age are you? Are
you
> >a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?
>
> Newbie overboard!

*splurt*

Damn, that's Coco Pops on the monitor twice in one morning!

Red, unladylike


Red & Fiery

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Oct 23, 2001, 5:00:49 AM10/23/01
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Sandra <san...@get.fucked.org.uk> wrote in message
news:yGXZUEAt...@grebbsy.org.uk...

> Whatever happened to the campaign (incepted a few Bicons ago) to get
> people to use 'nice' as a synonym for 'bisexual' as 'gay' is for
> 'homosexual'?

I thought it was already a euphemism for 'gay', though? As in, "He's a very
nice boy".

Red


Ayana Craven

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Oct 23, 2001, 5:32:36 PM10/23/01
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In article <100387161...@hebe.uk.clara.net>,

Er, I don't really know how it is around your area, but around
here, the only times I hear that, the speaker absolutely does *not*
mean "he's gay", although that is frequently the case.


Ayana, who think this is hilarious
--
I think that we have to consider the possibility that he's a
Promise Keeper.
-- Lisa, discussing soc.bi

lisa cohen

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Oct 23, 2001, 5:39:58 PM10/23/01
to
Red & Fiery wrote:
>
> lisa cohen <lco...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
> news:3BD49CCA...@midway.uchicago.edu...
> > apparently your spell-checker knows you well!
> >
> > lisa, who's been reading too much pratchett since she almost started to
> > talk about sapient spell-checkers
>
> *splurt*
>
> Do you *mind* not making me laugh when I'm eating breakfast???

so sorry.

>My monitor
> now has Coco Pops dripping off it! (Do you USAns get Coco Pops, BTW?
> Yummy).

not to my knowledge, but i'm hardly miss cereal aisle 2001.

lisa

lisa cohen

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Oct 23, 2001, 5:45:54 PM10/23/01
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"Robert S. Coren" wrote:
>
> In article <9r42j0$n8l$1...@news.panix.com>, Super Bitty <bi...@panix.com> wrote:
> >Basking in today's glorious sunshine, lisa cohen <lco...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> lisa, glad that she can root for ex-cubs mark grace and luis gonzalez in
> >
> > wow, i haven't seen that name in ages.
> > i had *such* the crush on mark grace in middle school (the cubs
> >had a farm team in my hometown at the time).
>
> I hadn't seen Mark Grace in a while... I mostly remember him from the
> 1989 playoffs. He's not as young as he was (but then, few of us are).

have you seen ryne sandburg lately? and i don't think he can carry off
the "i shaved my head" look as well as mark grace has, either.

>
> --Robert, who had trouble getting his brain around the shots of Paul
> McCartney at Yankee Stadium, speaking of people who are not as young
> as one remembers them

yes. but as you imply, we all run into that sooner or later, if we're
lucky.

lisa

Robert S. Coren

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Oct 23, 2001, 6:04:33 PM10/23/01
to
In article <3BD5E512...@midway.uchicago.edu>,
lisa cohen <lco...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:

>"Robert S. Coren" wrote:
>>
>> I hadn't seen Mark Grace in a while... I mostly remember him from the
>> 1989 playoffs. He's not as young as he was (but then, few of us are).
>
>have you seen ryne sandburg lately?

No, but then again he's not still playing in the majors.

>and i don't think he can carry off
>the "i shaved my head" look as well as mark grace has, either.

Now you mention it, I don't think I've seen him with his hat
off. Well, there will be further opportunities next week.

>>
>> --Robert, who had trouble getting his brain around the shots of Paul
>> McCartney at Yankee Stadium, speaking of people who are not as young
>> as one remembers them
>
>yes. but as you imply, we all run into that sooner or later, if we're
>lucky.

Quite. I look a lot older than I did when _A Hard Day's Night_ came
out, too.


--
---Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)--(or try net instead of com)-------

"I am FAGGOT, Lord of the flames! Feel my wrath!" -- Kaz Underworld

Robert S. Coren

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Oct 23, 2001, 6:07:00 PM10/23/01
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In article <RPlB7.148161$vq.34...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,

Robert S. Coren <co...@spdcc.com> wrote:
>In article <3BD5E512...@midway.uchicago.edu>,
>lisa cohen <lco...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
>>and i don't think he can carry off
>>the "i shaved my head" look as well as mark grace has, either.
>
>Now you mention it, I don't think I've seen him with his hat
>off. Well, there will be further opportunities next week.

Eek. The "him" I was referring to is Grace, not Sandberg.


--
---Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)--(or try net instead of com)-------

"Never try to outstubborn a cat." -- R. A. Heinlein

Jed Davis

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Oct 23, 2001, 6:27:18 PM10/23/01
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Robert Cumming <robe...@bahnhof.se> writes:

> In article <y6ypu7f...@eden.cs.utah.edu>,


> Naked Magic Cow <aw...@bigmeanie.net> wrote:

> > "Leanne Townsend" <leanne_...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > Are you a bitter, lonely person with little else to do?

> > Nope.
>
> Though if Adam *had* been a bitter, lonely person with little else to
> do, it wouldn't have changed this situation one little bit. I think
> it's important to realise that there's a total prohibition on
> loneliness and bitterness in our society right now, and I don't think
> it's helping anyone.

Nor do I.

Also, you've given me a Britney Spears earworm, and that's not helping
anyone either. (-:

--Jed "that's not an emoticon; it's subtle big-endian activism" D.

Jed Davis

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Oct 23, 2001, 6:27:18 PM10/23/01
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lord_...@yahoo.com (Beetlebau) writes:

> Andrea Merrell <an...@fluffkitten.com> wrote in message news:<slrn9t9rr...@kitten.fluffkitten.com>...

> > So did I but its still evil. Or maybe its just Adam has gone all
> > dotty.
> >
>
> Years ago at Swain Hall Library I found a book that quoted Einstein to
> justify having the speed of light as variable in a calculation. The
> quote went something like, "The ... speed of light ... is ...
> variable."

Or the joke in one of Scott Adams's books (it may or may not be
originally his, though):

"Our company is skilled in many other things that are not
reported by the biased media" =>
"Our company __ _killed __ m___ other th____ ____ __e ___
re______ __ ___ ___s__ ____a"

--Jed, also reminded of... was that Catch-22 where one of the
characters abused his letter-censorship powers to similar ends?

Sandra

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Oct 23, 2001, 6:38:28 PM10/23/01
to
Jed Davis <jldavis...@olug.cs.oberlin.edu> sat in Dunfermline town,

drinking the blood red wine, and cried:
>Loki <slapp...@atl.mediaone.net> writes:
>
>> Most likely the wench is hanging out at some pub
>> throwing back brewskis in celebration of the Brave's
>> defeat at the hands of the "Big Unit".
>
>Which reminds me: while I was at Piglet's, Oberlin's football team
>*won* *a* *game*. For the first time in $DEITY-only-knows-how-many
>years. The Apocalypse is nigh!

And Bolton Wanderers beat Manchester United at Old Trafford last
weekend.

Oink, oink, flap, flap.

Sandra
--
San...@get.fucked.org.uk: yes, it's a real address, I swear
PolyCode: G++* F+ k-- jw? q+++++ s--? l++> NPo A++
No, I'm the *other* Sandra

ele...@student.unimelb.edu.au

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Oct 23, 2001, 6:58:22 PM10/23/01
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Robert S. Coren wrote:

> Heh. Our rehearsal last night ended early -- partly because it was the
> first rehearsal for a concert, and those always seem to end early (I

It might be deliberate on the part of the conductor - give people a little
to absorb on the first day. What are you rehearsing?

> don't know why), but mostly because our conductor had terrible
> laryngitis and could scarcely make a sound. By 9:00 or so everybody's
> throat was hurting in sympathy.

Oh dear. That's no good at all.

> P.S. I'm sure my voice teacher would say that if the B flats hurt
> your throat you're not doing them right.

She did say she'd been talking to auditors all day.

My singing teacher would say the same thing - but if I had to sing a lot
of them, in a choir setting and after a tiring day, she'd understand (but
disapprove).

Katisha.


Kay Dekker

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Oct 23, 2001, 7:26:09 PM10/23/01
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Naked Magic Cow <aw...@bigmeanie.net> wrote in message news:<y6y4ror...@eden.cs.utah.edu>...
> [1] Interesting; my spell checker highlights 'cussing' like it
> might be a possible spelling error, but is perfectly fine with
> 'fucking'.

I would concur with your spelling checker. 'Cussing' is usually
informal or dialect; 'cursing' would be less marked. 'Fucking' is, at
least at a spelling-checker's level of comprehension, neutral.

Kay, wondering whether he can successfully promote 'swiving',
'japing', 'sarding', 'occupying', and so on, to lessen the 'fucking'
density.

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