"Straight, Gay or Lying? Bisexuality Revisited"
ytyour...@p.zapto.org
quote:
"[...]In the new study, a team of psychologists directly measured
genital arousal patterns in response to images of men and women. The
psychologists found that men who identified themselves as bisexual were
in fact exclusively aroused by either one sex or the other, usually by
other men.[...]"
Just thought this might be the right place to post this...
cordially
Y.T.
--
Remove YourClothes before you email me.
David Weinshenker
I've run across other references to this study...
my impression is that it overgeneralizes "arousal
in response to images of men and women" as an index
of one's orientation - in fact, one of the authors
was quoted as specifically saying "arousal is orientation".
For them, apparently, "arousal in response to images" is
all there is to "arousal"...? I know that's not necessarily
true: for example, I'd come out "gay" on their porn-o-meter,
but my patterns of "arousal in response to imagination or
opportunity" put me squarely in the middle of the scale.
(If you want to turn me on by showing me pictures, it generally
works better with pictures of boys... but sitting down beside me
with your legs across my lap and your arm around my shoulders
usully works better than showing me pictures...)
-dave w
Alan J Rosenthal
Yes, we're always short on biphobia here...
jamieknyc
Not to speak of the feel of the bodies of both sexes.....mmmmmm
Jed Davis
David Weinshenker <daz...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I've run across other references to this study...
> my impression is that it overgeneralizes "arousal
> in response to images of men and women" as an index
> of one's orientation - in fact, one of the authors
> was quoted as specifically saying "arousal is orientation".
> For them, apparently, "arousal in response to images" is
> all there is to "arousal"...? I know that's not necessarily
> true: for example, I'd come out "gay" on their porn-o-meter,
> but my patterns of "arousal in response to imagination or
> opportunity" put me squarely in the middle of the scale.
There was a big huge thread on soc.motss recently about that article;
one of the points that was made amidst the tumult, by several people
in various forms, is that there's generally more to life as concerns
members of the appropriate sex(es) than the intersection of looking at
naughty movies and having mostly-involuntary processes increase the
volume of blood stored in one's genitalia.
--
(let ((C call-with-current-continuation)) (apply (lambda (x y) (x y)) (map
((lambda (r) ((C C) (lambda (s) (r (lambda l (apply (s s) l)))))) (lambda
(f) (lambda (l) (if (null? l) C (lambda (k) (display (car l)) ((f (cdr l))
(C k))))))) '((#\J #\d #\D #\v #\s) (#\e #\space #\a #\i #\newline)))))
David Weinshenker
>
> In article <42D5558C...@earthlink.net>,
> David Weinshenker <daz...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > I've run across other references to this study...
> > my impression is that it overgeneralizes "arousal
> > in response to images of men and women" as an index
> > of one's orientation - in fact, one of the authors
> > was quoted as specifically saying "arousal is orientation".
> > For them, apparently, "arousal in response to images" is
> > all there is to "arousal"...? I know that's not necessarily
> > true: for example, I'd come out "gay" on their porn-o-meter,
> > but my patterns of "arousal in response to imagination or
> > opportunity" put me squarely in the middle of the scale.
>
> There was a big huge thread on soc.motss recently about that article;
> one of the points that was made amidst the tumult, by several people
> in various forms, is that there's generally more to life as concerns
> members of the appropriate sex(es) than the intersection of looking at
> naughty movies and having mostly-involuntary processes increase the
> volume of blood stored in one's genitalia.
And yet there seems to be a certain default meme of societal
discourse that treats these involuntary processes (with an
overgeneralizing reductionism that I can only describe as
"neo-Freudian") as the root of the matter - as if The Erection
were some sort of First Cause (and Desire a mere contingent
response thereto): IME, they have it backwards... I become
aroused as a response to desire; desire isn't a side-effect
of "being horny and looking for 'someone to take care of it'...!"
-dave w
Ann Burlingham
> >Just thought this might be the right place to post this...
>
> Yes, we're always short on biphobia here...
Well, we're certainly short of discussion material.
--
What use was it having all that money if you could never sit still
or just watch your cattle eating grass?
- Alexander McCall Smith, _The No.1 Ladies' Detective Agency_
jamieknyc
more or less involuntary reaction to a barrage of sexual images doesn't
necessarily prove that that is a person's sexual orientation.
Then on the other hand, I know people who are unquestionably
heterosexual who enjoy gay/lesbian porn, and really are staright, not
closet bis.
Ayana Craven
jamieknyc <jami...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hasn't everyone here been turned on by pictures of both sexes IRL?
>
>Not to speak of the feel of the bodies of both sexes.....mmmmmm
Not everybody gets turned on by pictures. And "pictures", meaning
soft or hard porn, may well not reflect orientation at all. What
someone likes as fantasy and what they like in person aren't
terribly likely to correspond, often.
Ayana
--
"Most Americans who don't have health care don't have health care
by choice" -- Reed Dickens, Bush-Cheney spokesman, July 15th, 2004
Alan J Rosenthal
>Well, we're certainly short of discussion material.
That's just because we're all so perfectly well-adjusted!
Minty
jamieknyc wrote:
> Hasn't everyone here been turned on by pictures of both sexes IRL?
Well, I have.
> Not to speak of the feel of the bodies of both sexes.....mmmmmm
Especially one of each, at the same time.
Minty
jamieknyc
with what they like in person. Although I would assume that everyone
here has had sex with both sexes (or at least wanted to), or they
wouldn't be here.
You should bear in mind, though, that the test was done on men. Men
will usually respond to pictures.
Annette
"jamieknyc" <jami...@yahoo.com> skrev i melding
news:1121434645.9...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Although I would assume that everyone
> here has had sex with both sexes (or at least wanted to), or they
> wouldn't be here.
Assume nothing.
Quoting is a very good thing - and that's not an assumption.
Ann Burlingham
> Although I would assume that everyone
> here has had sex with both sexes (or at least wanted to), or they
> wouldn't be here.
Er, no.
Jason Parker-Burlingham
> Assume nothing.
Can I assume that this is a new email address for a dear friend?
> Quoting is a very good thing - and that's not an assumption.
Indeed.
Annette
"Jason Parker-Burlingham" <jas...@panix.com> skrev i melding
news:87d5pkg...@freezer.burling...
> "Annette" <ze...@boxxoth.no> writes:
>
>> Assume nothing.
>
> Can I assume that this is a new email address for a dear friend?
Yes, it is :) My little darling got her very own email adress last year.
I'm planning to sort that bit out (the online.no one is dead, and this one
is the one I have used for the dog group - the x'es are there as it is
currently spam free and I'd like to keep it that way). The usual adress is
valid.
Annette
Jed Davis
jamieknyc <jami...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Although I would assume that everyone here has had sex with both sexes
> (or at least wanted to), or they wouldn't be here.
Even setting aside this group's history and social tendencies, there are
other reasons for which a person might be interested in discussions of
bisexuality than personally identifying as bi.
Brother Elf
> In article <1121434645.9...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> jamieknyc <jami...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Although I would assume that everyone here has had sex with both sexes
>> (or at least wanted to), or they wouldn't be here.
>
> Even setting aside this group's history and social tendencies, there are
> other reasons for which a person might be interested in discussions of
> bisexuality than personally identifying as bi.
Looking for
[x] recipes
[x] book tips
[ ] HBBs 4 1337 3zumz!1!!
and occasional anger management training.
SCNR,
Ulrich
(ObRecipe: Cola chicken? WTFOMG?)
--
Anfangs eine Sechs bedeutet:
Beim Rückzug am Schwanz: das ist gefährlich.
Jed Davis
Brother Elf <broth...@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> Looking for
> [x] recipes
> [x] book tips
> [ ] HBBs 4 1337 3zumz!1!!
> and occasional anger management training.
Like I said: social tendencies.
> (ObRecipe: Cola chicken? WTFOMG?)
Well, it could be kind of like that Peruvian thing with the fish and the
citrus, except chicken and cola. Except that chicken isn't fish, so
actually heating stuff might be necessary to avoid unfortunate health
effects.
Michael Thomas
> In article <1121434645.9...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> jamieknyc <jami...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Although I would assume that everyone here has had sex with both sexes
>> (or at least wanted to), or they wouldn't be here.
>
> Even setting aside this group's history and social tendencies, there are
> other reasons for which a person might be interested in discussions of
> bisexuality than personally identifying as bi.
Wouldn't it be more productive to do your slumming on 14th
St. though?
--
Michael Thomas (mi...@mtcc.com http://www.mtcc.com/~mike/)
E Unum Pluribus: California out of the US.
David Weinshenker
>
> In article <1121434645.9...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> jamieknyc <jami...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Although I would assume that everyone here has had sex with both sexes
> > (or at least wanted to), or they wouldn't be here.
>
> Even setting aside this group's history and social tendencies, there are
> other reasons for which a person might be interested in discussions of
> bisexuality than personally identifying as bi.
>
Yeah, there's the whole "my SO is bi... what shall i do?" genre of posts
that show up. (Then sometimes we even gets postings where someone wants
to do a "survey about bisexuality" or something similar...)
We haven't seen many recipes lately.
-dave w
Fat Naked Dangerous
>jd...@panix.com (Jed Davis) writes:
>> In article <1121434645.9...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> jamieknyc <jami...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Although I would assume that everyone here has had sex with both sexes
>>> (or at least wanted to), or they wouldn't be here.
>> Even setting aside this group's history and social tendencies, there are
>> other reasons for which a person might be interested in discussions of
>> bisexuality than personally identifying as bi.
> Wouldn't it be more productive to do your slumming on 14th
> St. though?
I've moved.
--
Piglet
jamieknyc
were bi. But probably most are, including myself.
jamieknyc
jamieknyc
serene
> I suppose that I should not have assumed that people who posted here
> were bi.
Correct.
> But probably most are, including myself.
We haven't taken a poll recently, but there are plenty of non-bi people
who post here, and I'd bet that they make up at least half of the recent
posts from regulars.
serene
mathew
> Hasn't everyone here been turned on by pictures of both sexes IRL?
Not while in a lab, with my genitals wired to a machine, with some
creepy guy in a lab coat holding a clipboard and watching me. I bet they
chose really bad porn too. At least, that's my theory for why they
couldn't find any bisexuals and proved that 1/3 of men were asexual.
mathew
pellmellw...@hotmail.com
> We haven't seen many recipes lately.
A friend and I were just discussing that bird report that David and I
both had to do in third grade. Dave probably knew how to produce a
report. Mine was humiliating all around. My report was fiction, and my
bluebird's wings didn't have tips because I wasn't strong enough to
bend the wire "skeleton" that hard. But somewhere between bluebirds and
adulthood, I learned to appreciate good food.
Did someone say recipe? :-)
Here's an incredibly refreshing summer dessert that the mother of one
of my Iranian Kindergartners taught me to make several years ago. It's
very easy, but you have to babysit the disintegrating rice.
* * * * *
Sholeh zard (yellow rice)
Iranian recipe
1 cup rice (cheap white rice is fine) Garnish:
1 1/2 cups sugar 2 tsp. ground cinnamon
~10 cups water 2 tsp. slivered almonds
2 Tablespoons oil (Crisco is fine) 2 tsp. chopped pistachios
1/4 to 1/2 cup slivered almonds
1/8 to 1/2 teaspoon saffron
1/2 cup rose water
1. Clean and wash the rice, changing water several times. (Soaking it
for 2 hours or overnight makes it cook easier.) Drain.
2. Combine rice and oil with 8 cups of water in a large pot and bring
to a boil, skimming the foam as it rises. Cover and simmer for about 35
minutes over medium to medium-high heat until rice is very soft and
water is mostly gone.
3. Add two more cups of boiling water with the sugar and cook for
another 25-20 minutes, stirring occasionally until water is mostly gone
again. Rice should be mushy.
4. While rice cooks, use a spoon and bowl or mortar and pestle to grind
saffron with about 1/2 teaspoon sugar. (The sugar helps grind.) Add 1/2
cup boiling water and stir saffron-sugar mixture to dissolve
completely.
5. Stir almonds and saffron water into the rice mixture. Cook until
water is gone, if it's not already gone. Turn off heat and add rose
water. Stir until water is not visible.
6. Spoon pudding into individual cups or large bowl. Cool until surface
of pudding is hard enough to receive garnish. Make a design with
garnishes. Chill. Serve cold.
Makes 8 servings
Variations:
Substitute as much as 1/4 cup unsalted butter for the oil, adding it
with the almonds instead of cooking it with the rice.
Add up to 1 teaspoon of ground cardamom along with the almonds and
saffron.
ytyour...@p.zapto.org
Jed Davis wrote:
>[...everything snipped that was on topic...]
> (let ((C call-with-current-continuation)) (apply (lambda (x y) (x y)) (map
> ((lambda (r) ((C C) (lambda (s) (r (lambda l (apply (s s) l)))))) (lambda
> (f) (lambda (l) (if (null? l) C (lambda (k) (display (car l)) ((f (cdr l))
> (C k))))))) '((#\J #\d #\D #\v #\s) (#\e #\space #\a #\i #\newline)))))
OK, I'm geek enough to admit that I recognize this as LISP. However
eLisp barfs on it with (invalid-read-syntax "#") - I'm assuming it's
the literal at the end.
Is "#\J" (and such) some kind of Common-Lisp convention for something?
cordially
Y.T.
--
Remove YourClothes before you email me.
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
> OK, I'm geek enough to admit that I recognize this as LISP.
*gasp*
No, it's Scheme.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
la...@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
Jed Davis
> ytyour...@p.zapto.org writes:
>
>> OK, I'm geek enough to admit that I recognize this as LISP.
>
> *gasp*
>
> No, it's Scheme.
Quite. Although common lisp looks like it uses #\J for characters
instead of elisp's ?J. Anyway, CPS-transforming my .signature so as
to translate it into a language lacking first-class continuations is
left as an exercise for the reader.
Or, you know, get a computer to do it for you:
$ chicken .signature
compiling `.signature' ...
generating `.signature.c' ...
$ wc .signature.c
395 987 11920 .signature.c
Hrm. Not quite McQ-compliant, is it. And now I'm earwormed with
_Turkey in the Straw_.
--
Ellen Evans
Jed Davis <jd...@panix.com> wrote:
>Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <la...@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> ytyour...@p.zapto.org writes:
>>
>>> OK, I'm geek enough to admit that I recognize this as LISP.
>>
>> *gasp*
>>
>> No, it's Scheme.
>
>Quite. Although common lisp looks like it uses #\J for characters
>instead of elisp's ?J. Anyway, CPS-transforming my .signature so as
>to translate it into a language lacking first-class continuations is
>left as an exercise for the reader.
>
>Or, you know, get a computer to do it for you:
>
> $ chicken .signature
"chicken"?
--
Ellen Evans If my life wasn't funny, it would
je...@panix.com just be true, and that's unacceptable.
Carrie Fisher
Jed Davis
> In article <lcssly9...@panix5.panix.com>,
> Jed Davis <jd...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>>Or, you know, get a computer to do it for you:
>>
>> $ chicken .signature
>
> "chicken"?
It's a Scheme-to-C compiler, as I could reveal with the somewhat
evocative command "man chicken | head".
--Jed
--
"When I was one of the devil's lesbians, my headmistress Countess Clitoria
would reward me with hot tubs and vacations to Spain and Greece. I'm sorry
you're still at the toaster level. You must do your vampirizing only in scummy
out-of-the-way places." -- Mother Bernadette Strange <exle...@wowmail.com>
Ellen Evans
Jed Davis <jd...@panix.com> wrote:
>je...@panix.com (Ellen Evans) writes:
>
>> In article <lcssly9...@panix5.panix.com>,
>> Jed Davis <jd...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Or, you know, get a computer to do it for you:
>>>
>>> $ chicken .signature
>>
>> "chicken"?
>
>It's a Scheme-to-C compiler, as I could reveal with the somewhat
>evocative command "man chicken | head".
"man: no entry for chicken in the manual."
David Weinshenker
>
> In article <lcsll41...@panix5.panix.com>,
> Jed Davis <jd...@panix.com> wrote:
> >je...@panix.com (Ellen Evans) writes:
> >
> >> In article <lcssly9...@panix5.panix.com>,
> >> Jed Davis <jd...@panix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Or, you know, get a computer to do it for you:
> >>>
> >>> $ chicken .signature
> >>
> >> "chicken"?
> >
> >It's a Scheme-to-C compiler, as I could reveal with the somewhat
> >evocative command "man chicken | head".
>
> "man: no entry for chicken in the manual."
I suspect that it's something only present if you've
installed the Scheme distribution... My Redhat Linux
7 system doesn't appear to have manpages for "chicken"
or "scheme", or any commands starting with "chi" or "sch".
-dave w
Jed Davis
> In article <lcsll41...@panix5.panix.com>,
> Jed Davis <jd...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>It's a Scheme-to-C compiler, as I could reveal with the somewhat
>>evocative command "man chicken | head".
>
> "man: no entry for chicken in the manual."
#ifndef SERIOUS
That works better on systems where it's "No manual entry for %s\n".
#else
I did say that I could reveal it; this is because I've got chicken,
but other people/systems may not. See
http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/ (and I should add that
I have no involvement with this project other than knowing that it
exists).
#endif
Robert Marshall
> je...@panix.com (Ellen Evans) writes:
>
>> In article <lcsll41...@panix5.panix.com>,
>> Jed Davis <jd...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>It's a Scheme-to-C compiler, as I could reveal with the somewhat
>>>evocative command "man chicken | head".
>>
>> "man: no entry for chicken in the manual."
>
> #ifndef SERIOUS
> That works better on systems where it's "No manual entry for %s\n".
Hmm, I get:
Man-goto-page: Can't find the nil manpage
M-x report-emacs-bug ....
Robert
--
La grenouille songe..dans son chāteau d'eau
Ellen Evans
Jed Davis <jd...@panix.com> wrote:
>je...@panix.com (Ellen Evans) writes:
>
>> In article <lcsll41...@panix5.panix.com>,
>> Jed Davis <jd...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>It's a Scheme-to-C compiler, as I could reveal with the somewhat
>>>evocative command "man chicken | head".
>>
>> "man: no entry for chicken in the manual."
>
>#ifndef SERIOUS
>That works better on systems where it's "No manual entry for %s\n".
>#else
I'm looking on panix, buster.
Get on it.
Brother Elf
> fl...@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>
>> >Just thought this might be the right place to post this...
>>
>> Yes, we're always short on biphobia here...
>
> Well, we're certainly short of discussion material.
So what's a good book to read, or a good thing to cook?
;)
Ulrich
(who just gave away Politics as a present with very mixed feelings.
Very overrated, IMO.)
--
"Krautsalat für alle!"
(The New Rose Hotel)
Cerulean
>
> So what's a good book to read, or a good thing to cook?
Roast chicken with roast potatoes, carrots, parsnips, stuffing, gravy and
bread sauce.
Cerulean, or maybe a better answer in here is "socks" *gdr*
--
\ / |
\/"\/ |
( c ) |
/\_/\ | "Faint heart never won cute boy." -- Mr Cow
Robert S. Coren
Cerulean <ceru...@hbbs.orgY.COM> wrote:
>Brother Elf wrote:
>>
>> So what's a good book to read, or a good thing to cook?
>
>Roast chicken with roast potatoes, carrots, parsnips, stuffing, gravy and
>bread sauce.
That's always been one of *my* favorite books.
--
---Robert Coren (co...@panix.com)------------------------------------
"You might as well be sleeping on satin sheets with Robert Coren."
--Will Parsons
Brother Elf
> Brother Elf wrote:
>>
>> So what's a good book to read, or a good thing to cook?
>
> Roast chicken with roast potatoes, carrots, parsnips, stuffing, gravy and
> bread sauce.
Mmmmm... stuffing...
(since Robert beat me to the other joke)
--
Sechs auf fünftem Platz bedeutet:
Im Feld ist ein Wild. Es ist fördernd, es zu fangen.
Cerulean
> "Cerulean" <ceru...@hbbs.orgY.COM> writes:
>
>> Brother Elf wrote:
>>>
>>> So what's a good book to read, or a good thing to cook?
>>
>> Roast chicken with roast potatoes, carrots, parsnips, stuffing,
>> gravy and bread sauce.
>
> Mmmmm... stuffing...
Followed by home made apple and blackberry pie.
Cerulean, tasty.
--
\ / |
\/"\/ |
( c ) | "Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should
/\_/\ | both be changed regularly and for the same reason." -- Anon
Ann Burlingham
> Ann Burlingham <an...@panix.com> writes:
> > Well, we're certainly short of discussion material.
>
> So what's a good book to read, or a good thing to cook?
_Freakonomics_, and thai cucumber salad. Anything that uses the late
summer bounty - pesto, tomatos, etc.
--
What use was it having all that money if you could never sit still
or just watch your cattle eating grass?
- Alexander McCall Smith, _The No.1 Ladies' Detective Agency_
serene
> Ann Burlingham <an...@panix.com> writes:
>
>
>>fl...@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>>
>>
>>>>Just thought this might be the right place to post this...
>>>
>>>Yes, we're always short on biphobia here...
>>
>>Well, we're certainly short of discussion material.
>
>
> So what's a good book to read, or a good thing to cook?
Best book read lately: The Partly Cloudy Patriot (Sarah Vowell). Less
recently, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time (Mark Haddon).
Currently, working too much to read much, but I finished an old issue of
"Ms." and the sequel to "Bunny Suicides". The bunny suicide books are
hilarious.
Movies lately that didn't suck (so few are actually good): Ray, Broken
Flowers. Movie that sucked, big time: Pretty Persuasion.
Yummy food lately: My very own homegrown tomatoes. The baba ganouj I
made last night (recipe following this post). The expensive cheese a
friend brought by as a gift -- two soft ones, including one wrapped in
nettles and an aged goat cheese, and an irish cheddar. A delicous
curried-split-pea thing I threw together the other night (recipe
following this post).
serene
Baba Ganouj
1 large or two small eggplants
Juice of 1 large or two small lemons
1/4 cup or more tahini, to taste
2-5 cloves garlic, to taste
salt to taste (I don't bother with the salt)
Cut the stem off the eggplant. Prick it with a fork all over and bake it
in the oven for about an hour at 400F (shorter time for smaller
eggplants), until the skin starts to char. Take it out and cool it
until it's cool enough to handle (or use kevlar gloves or something).
Cut it in half and scoop the flesh into a blender container. Add
remaining ingredients and blend (or use food processor) until smooth.
Chill before serving. Or don't. Hell, who am I to tell you not to eat
warm eggplant dip?
Curried Split Peas
Saute one onion in some (a precise measure) olive oil until just soft.
Add about a half-teaspoon each of mustard seed, garam masala, and
turmeric, and cumin to taste, along with at least a teaspoon of curry
powder. Stir until the spices start to smell really yummy (a couple of
minutes). Add 1 cup dry split peas and 3 cups water. Bring to a boil,
then simmer for at least 30 minutes (or stick in the slow-cooker for a
few hours on medium).
Jason Parker-Burlingham
> Less recently, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time (Mark
> Haddon).
Loved that. Very few other people have seemed interested. Glad you
liked it! I am pretty sure I read it around the same time that I read
/Ella Minnow Pea/, which I posted about, here. Also around that
time---the library had gotten a new batch of books in and I was, uh,
road-testing them---I read /The Time-Traveler's Wife/, which I also
quite enjoyed.
Oh, and Michael Chabon's "The Final Solution".
--
Jason Parker-Burlingham
<jas...@panix.com>
(Watch this space)
Ann Burlingham
> serene <ser...@serenepages.org> writes:
>
> > Less recently, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time (Mark
> > Haddon).
>
> Loved that. Very few other people have seemed interested.
I still have it on my "to read" list. But it reminds me to recommend
Elzabeth Moon's _The speed of dark_ again.
Ayana Craven
>Jason Parker-Burlingham <jas...@panix.com> writes:
>
>> serene <ser...@serenepages.org> writes:
>>
>> > Less recently, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time (Mark
>> > Haddon).
>>
>> Loved that. Very few other people have seemed interested.
>
>I still have it on my "to read" list. But it reminds me to recommend
>Elzabeth Moon's _The speed of dark_ again.
I've had that on my to-read shelf for a while, and keep putting it
off because I have the notion that it won't be escapist in the least
little bit, and I want escapist at the moment. It's got good
company -- FistStickKnife and Katie's Canon are both waiting for me
to be ready for real books rather than biscuit books (light and
fluffy). But I seem to have a dearth of biscuit books. Suggestions ?
Ayana
--
"Most Americans who don't have health care don't have health care
by choice" -- Reed Dickens, Bush-Cheney spokesman, July 15th, 2004
Robert Marshall
> serene <ser...@serenepages.org> writes:
>
>> Less recently, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time
>> (Mark Haddon).
>
> Loved that. Very few other people have seemed interested.
I've read it too, a wonderful book.
I've just re-read Ballard's The Drowned World - something about recent
events - I think he had it about right, very creepy.
The local book group has just had Franzen's the Corrections - no one
liked it - would anyone like to justify it or is the publishers blurb
all hype?
Robert
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La grenouille songe..dans son château d'eau
Gwendolyn Alden Dean
> Brother Elf <broth...@gmx.net> writes:
> > So what's a good book to read, or a good thing to cook?
> _Freakonomics_, and thai cucumber salad. Anything that uses the late
> summer bounty - pesto, tomatos, etc.
_I Shall Not Hear the Nightingale_ by Khushwant Singh and aloo sag from
Madhur Jaffrey's recipe.
Gwendolyn
lisa cohen
> Brother Elf wrote:
>
>>"Cerulean" <ceru...@hbbs.orgY.COM> writes:
>>
>>
>>>Brother Elf wrote:
>>>
>>>>So what's a good book to read, or a good thing to cook?
>>>
>>>Roast chicken with roast potatoes, carrots, parsnips, stuffing,
>>>gravy and bread sauce.
>>
>>Mmmmm... stuffing...
>
>
> Followed by home made apple and blackberry pie.
>
> Cerulean, tasty.
good lord.
you have been holding out on me.
lisa