bisexual attire
stephen...@my-dejanews.com
called "Fair and Foul". It's a bunch of personal opinions and thoughts from
out-of-town writers.
Anyway, within today's column is a bit from Skip Bayless of the Chicago
Tribune, on Dennis Rodman:
..."beneath all his childishly effective attempts to attract our attention -
the hats, hair, shades, earrings, nose ring, lip studs, tattoos, nail polish,
bisexual attire and sexually explicit language - lies a basketball player who
belongs in the hall of fame."
Hmmmm. I wonder: what does he mean by bisexual attire? Everything else seems
to click, but I can't say I have ever seen a "My coach knows I'm bisexual"
t-shirt on him. If it was the bridal gown for the book launch in 1997,
methinks that the writer is a *wee* bit confused.
Stephen, enjoying yet another bi-cold (in both nostrils)
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Gryffyn
>In today's Toronto Star, I'm looking through the sports section, to a
column
>called "Fair and Foul". It's a bunch of personal opinions and thoughts from
>out-of-town writers.
>
>Anyway, within today's column is a bit from Skip Bayless of the Chicago
>Tribune, on Dennis Rodman:
>
>..."beneath all his childishly effective attempts to attract our
attention -
>the hats, hair, shades, earrings, nose ring, lip studs, tattoos, nail
polish,
>bisexual attire and sexually explicit language - lies a basketball player
who
>belongs in the hall of fame."
>
>Hmmmm. I wonder: what does he mean by bisexual attire?
He has to mean "unisex" attire, as it used to be known, i.e., clothing that
doesn't advertise gender particularly explicitly.
Scott
David Kaye
" Hmmmm. I wonder: what does he mean by bisexual attire?
Every man I have ever met who wore long hair and a leather jacket was
bisexual. Every one. Now, heck, I seek them out. I try to figure out a
way to start a conversation with them.
--
(C) 1999 Someone who went "berserk" was said to be running
David Kaye with a "bear shirt" because an early Norse warrior
dk at wco.com charged into battle wearing a bear skin
Bethany
> Every man I have ever met who wore long hair and a leather jacket was
> bisexual. Every one.
Obviously you have a limited social life.
--
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"There's nothing worse than a monolith with a pluralist self-image."- Jeff
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Kelly Carpenter
<d...@removethis.wco.com> wrote:
> stephen...@my-dejanews.com wrote the quoted material below:
>
> " Hmmmm. I wonder: what does he mean by bisexual attire?
>
> Every man I have ever met who wore long hair and a leather jacket was
> bisexual. Every one. Now, heck, I seek them out. I try to figure out a
> way to start a conversation with them.
>
>
> --
> (C) 1999 Someone who went "berserk" was said to be running
> David Kaye with a "bear shirt" because an early Norse warrior
> dk at wco.com charged into battle wearing a bear skin
Hmmm...is that a stereotype I shmell?
What about the womyn?
Kelly
I've been searching for the daughter of the devil himself
I've been searching for an angel in white
I've been waiting for a woman who's a little of both
And I can feel her but she's nowhere in sight
Baba Booey
Re: bisexual attire:
>stephen...@my-dejanews.com wrote the quoted material below:
>
>" Hmmmm. I wonder: what does he mean by bisexual attire?
>
>Every man I have ever met who wore long hair and a leather jacket was
>bisexual. Every one. Now, heck, I seek them out. I try to figure out a
>way to start a conversation with them.
Every one who wears them may be bisexual, but not every bisexual wears
one. I can't afford a leather jacket.
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Jason Henry Parker
> On 10 Mar 1999 19:34:18 GMT, David Kaye wasted 13 lines babbling about
> Re: bisexual attire:
> >Every man I have ever met who wore long hair and a leather jacket was
> >bisexual. Every one. Now, heck, I seek them out. I try to figure out a
> >way to start a conversation with them.
> Every one who wears them may be bisexual, but not every bisexual wears
> one. I can't afford a leather jacket.
And ever since puberty kicked in and put kinks in my hair, if I grow
my hair long it looks *AWFUL* (just like it does now, in fact). Gosh
Darn I hate having messy, plain, boring cedar-brown hair. Ick.
Jason, who doesn't own a leather jacket either.
--
``And those same things that would have repelled most ____
others, they were the very magnets that thus drew me. \ _/__
I'll try a pagan friend, thought I, since Christian \X /
kindness has proved but hollow courtesy.'' Moby Dick \/
David Kaye
" Hmmm...is that a stereotype I shmell?
Well, stereotypes are based on truth. That's why they're stereotypes.
" What about the womyn?
I have not found any clothing style indicative of bi wimmin.
--
(C) 1999 I support the Gap, Banana Republic, Old Navy boycott
David Kaye due to Donald Fisher's clearcutting of the redwoods
dk at wco.com --> More info at http://www.elksoft.com/gwa/
David Kaye
" Every one who wears them may be bisexual, but not every bisexual wears
" one. I can't afford a leather jacket.
Can you afford long hair? If so, can you be in San Francisco this
weekends?
--
(C) 1999 I support the boycott of United Airlines
David Kaye
dk at wco.com
David Kaye
" Obviously you have a limited social life.
Not at all. Note what I said. I said every longhaired man wearing a
leather jacket I've met was bi. I did *not* say that every bi man I've
ever met had long hair and wore a leather jacket.
Just because fire engines are red does not make all red trucks into fire
engines.
--
Baba Booey
babbling about Re: bisexual attire:
>In article <7c6hfq$buq$6...@news.ncal.verio.com>, David Kaye
><d...@removethis.wco.com> wrote:
>
>> stephen...@my-dejanews.com wrote the quoted material below:
>>
>> " Hmmmm. I wonder: what does he mean by bisexual attire?
>>
>> Every man I have ever met who wore long hair and a leather jacket was
>> bisexual. Every one. Now, heck, I seek them out. I try to figure out a
>> way to start a conversation with them.
>>
>
>Hmmm...is that a stereotype I shmell?
>
>What about the womyn?
Biker Chicks?
Baba Booey
Re: bisexual attire:
>Baba Booey wrote the quoted material below:
>
>" Every one who wears them may be bisexual, but not every bisexual wears
>" one. I can't afford a leather jacket.
>
>Can you afford long hair? If so, can you be in San Francisco this
>weekends?
Love to. Never been there. I've been stuck in the Eastern Time Zone
all my life. Never been out of it.
"I moved to San Francisco
It seemed the place to be
But I'm not into disco
And bars intimidate me
My only can of Crisco
Is where it's s'pposed to be
What kind of self-respecting faggot am I?"
-Romanovsky & Phillips
Bethany
> " Obviously you have a limited social life.
> Not at all. Note what I said. I said every longhaired man wearing a
I know exactly what you said. And I stand by my statement.
Beth
: While inhaling heavenly brownies, David Kaye shared:
:
: > " Obviously you have a limited social life.
:
: > Not at all. Note what I said. I said every longhaired man wearing a
:
: I know exactly what you said. And I stand by my statement.
I second that.
-Beth, who needs to go talk to the straight long-haired
leather-jacket-wearing guy downstairs about some tech stuff
--
Beth Linker
Silver-spoon Email Address: bli...@mtcc.com
"it should be blindingly obvious that my time here is
about creating the longest running personal ad in history" - FJ!!
Brenda Daverin
> stephen...@my-dejanews.com wrote the quoted material below:
>
> " Hmmmm. I wonder: what does he mean by bisexual attire?
>
> Every man I have ever met who wore long hair and a leather jacket was
> bisexual. Every one.
Then you really *must* meet my husband. He has long hair and wears a
leather jacket, and he's straight. If that doesn't break your stereotype,
nothing will.
--
Brenda Daverin bdav...@best.com
The Unravelled Ferret - http://members.aol.com/lysana/
"Usenet is just email with witnesses." -- Rob Hansen
Brenda Daverin
<srle...@nospam.svn.net> wrote:
> stephen...@my-dejanews.com wrote
>
> >In today's Toronto Star, I'm looking through the sports section, to a
> column
> >called "Fair and Foul". It's a bunch of personal opinions and thoughts from
> >out-of-town writers.
> >
> >Anyway, within today's column is a bit from Skip Bayless of the Chicago
> >Tribune, on Dennis Rodman:
> >
> >..."beneath all his childishly effective attempts to attract our
> attention -
> >the hats, hair, shades, earrings, nose ring, lip studs, tattoos, nail
> polish,
> >bisexual attire and sexually explicit language - lies a basketball player
> who
> >belongs in the hall of fame."
> >
> >Hmmmm. I wonder: what does he mean by bisexual attire?
>
> He has to mean "unisex" attire, as it used to be known, i.e., clothing that
> doesn't advertise gender particularly explicitly.
I think he means "hermaphroditic."
David Kaye
" Then you really *must* meet my husband. He has long hair and wears a
" leather jacket, and he's straight. If that doesn't break your stereotype,
" nothing will.
Why should I discard a stereotype when it works so well? It gives me an
excuse to start up conversations with pretty men.
--
David Kaye
" "I moved to San Francisco
" It seemed the place to be
" But I'm not into disco
" And bars intimidate me
" My only can of Crisco
" Is where it's s'pposed to be
" What kind of self-respecting faggot am I?"
" -Romanovsky & Phillips
Funny you should mention R&P. I'm the guy who moved them from SF to Santa
Fe in 1986. I'd known them for several years and noticed that the SF
lifestyle (such as it is) was making them unhappy. It was also making me
unhappy, largely with the AIDS devastation, but also due to the
"attitude" problems that permeated gay culture then.
I decided that helping them move would also expose me to New Mexico, and
that maybe the change of pace for a few weeks might do me some good.
(Ultimately I moved to Oregon for several years.)
Orignally, Ron wanted to move to Santa Fe, being a small-town kind of guy.
Ultimately it turned out that Paul liked Santa Fe better, and Ron came
back to San Francisco to live for awhile again. There is something about
this place that can be hard to get out of the blood.
David Kaye
"> " Obviously you have a limited social life.
" I know exactly what you said. And I stand by my statement.
Okay, then will you please explain what you mean? Or is this simply a
gratuitous statement offered just to be nasty?
--
Kelly Carpenter
> On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:24:38 -0500, Kelly Carpenter wasted 26 lines
> babbling about Re: bisexual attire:
>
> >In article <7c6hfq$buq$6...@news.ncal.verio.com>, David Kaye
> ><d...@removethis.wco.com> wrote:
> >
> >> stephen...@my-dejanews.com wrote the quoted material below:
> >>
> >> " Hmmmm. I wonder: what does he mean by bisexual attire?
> >>
> >> Every man I have ever met who wore long hair and a leather jacket was
> >> bisexual. Every one. Now, heck, I seek them out. I try to figure out a
> >> way to start a conversation with them.
> >>
> >
> >Hmmm...is that a stereotype I shmell?
> >
> >What about the womyn?
>
> Biker Chicks?
Yummm...
Bethany
Because its a stereotype, you imbecile.
--
http://www.amherst.edu/~bkramire/
"Me fail English? That's unpossible." - Ralph Wiggum
"There's nothing worse than a monolith with a pluralist self-image."- Jeff
"Guns don't kill people -- anti choice extremists kill people."
Muse451
>
>
>Jason, who doesn't own a leather jacket either.
>
Can I take a poll to figure out who has a leather jacket, so I may be
proveledged to know who can fufill my fantasy of making love while I am in
nothing but the other person's leather jacket?
Wendy, young, horny, bi and on her way to Arizona where it's *warm*
--------
Wendy Ginther at Mus...@aol.com
"Why does Sea World have a seafood restaurant? I'm halfway through
my fish burger and I realize, Oh my God....I could be eating a slow
learner." --Lynda Montgomery
the fluffKitten
> > >What about the womyn?
> >
> > Biker Chicks?
>
> Yummm...
Time to rebuild the Honda and get out the leather jacket. :-)
Andi
--
____
Andrea Merrell \ _/__
feral fluffKitten \/ /
\/
Jason Henry Parker
> Can I take a poll to figure out who has a leather jacket, so I may be
> proveledged to know who can fufill my fantasy of making love while I am in
> nothing but the other person's leather jacket?
> Wendy, young, horny, bi and on her way to Arizona where it's *warm*
Come to Australia instead. Ignore the weather reports, for the past
few months it has been warmer than you could possibly imagine! I'm
sure I can (beg|borrow|steal) a leather jacket by then.
What's special about other peope's leather jackets, anyway?
Jason "perl -e 's/anyway$//gi; print;" Parker
A
>Hmmm...is that a stereotype I shmell?
Maybe it's indicative of the people he's met in the place he's in.
Frankly, when I lived in a small town with an absurdly high queer population
(Hi, Ptbo!), for a while it was almost like a signal... As long as you
didn't have gang-related tchotchkes all over it, of course. I know at least
ten bisexuals who regularly wear biker jackets and have had long hair
accompanying said jackets at some point in time. Of course, I know a whole
lotta bisexuals (I ran with the theatre/cultural studies/computer geek crowd
:) -- short hair, no hair, aversion to leather, inability to afford leather,
radical veganism, dedicated followers of fashion, etc. -- so I don't
necessarily believe that long hair + biker jacket = bisexual (and after all,
my town also had a disproportionate number of scary longhaired
likely-straight bikers), but certainly it's a style I recognize. One of the
things that drew me to my current (bisexual!) squeeze was the fact that he
sported that look, at the time... *swoon*
>What about the womyn?
That would be me. :) And one of my ex-partners. And one of her
ex-partners. And several other grrls we knew when we lived in Ptbo.
Why do I wear a biker jacket? I like making people scared of me. I get
treated better by the servers in the coffeehouses in the gaybourhood. Not to
mention getting looked at by the dykes/bykes. :) Without the jacket, I get
pushed around more on the subway, people don't get out of my way on crowded
sidewalks, and men try to intimidate me -- I'm a wee femmy thing, most of
the time. So I feel tougher (and look it, apparently). I also just love
leather. *grin*
--Ani, bisexual female, long hair, biker jacket. (woohoo! I'm somebody's
stereotype! *skip* *dance* *rotfl*)
Gryffyn
Brenda Daverin wrote
>
>I think he means "hermaphroditic."
I believe hermaphroditic refers to anatomy, not attire. But then, I really
dated myself when I referred to the term "unisex"; it was (almost) popular
in the late sixties (along with the derisive "Can't tell the boys from the
girls anymore").
Hermaphroditic should do fine: if it walks like a duck and drake, and quacks
like a duck and drake...
Scott
Brenda Daverin
(Muse451) wrote:
> Can I take a poll to figure out who has a leather jacket, so I may be
> proveledged to know who can fufill my fantasy of making love while I am in
> nothing but the other person's leather jacket?
Sure. I'll even respond. I own one.
Brenda Daverin
<srle...@nospam.svn.net> wrote:
> Brenda Daverin wrote
> >
> >I think he means "hermaphroditic."
>
> I believe hermaphroditic refers to anatomy, not attire. But then, I really
> dated myself when I referred to the term "unisex"; it was (almost) popular
> in the late sixties (along with the derisive "Can't tell the boys from the
> girls anymore").
I was taught "unisex" means "not specifically male or female." And since
Rodman bounces between traditionally male and traditionally female attire,
I figured the writer was taking the bi-gendered definition of bisexual.
Thus...
> Hermaphroditic should do fine: if it walks like a duck and drake, and quacks
> like a duck and drake...
We get that result. :)
Doktor Pete
<d...@removethis.wco.com> wrote:
>
>Every man I have ever met who wore long hair and a leather jacket was
>bisexual. Every one. Now, heck, I seek them out. I try to figure out a
>way to start a conversation with them.
>
Dok, long hair, no leather
--
"I would insult your intelligence, but what would be the point?" -
Doklands Mafia | http://www.dok.clara.net/ | Read the Complete Clovis
A & J
>
>Can I take a poll to figure out who has a leather jacket, so I may be
>proveledged to know who can fufill my fantasy of making love while I am in
>nothing but the other person's leather jacket?
>
>Wendy, young, horny, bi and on her way to Arizona where it's *warm*
WOW!! Thank you for livening up an otherwise dry discussion with
*this* sexy image!
For the record, we *both* own leather jackets (black... Hey, it's New
York City and , well, it's the law).
xoxoxoxo,
- A & J
A & J
>In article <uTbG2.6$yk1.1259671@IConNet>, "Gryffyn"
><srle...@nospam.svn.net> wrote:
>
>> Brenda Daverin wrote
>> >
>> >I think he means "hermaphroditic."
>>
>> I believe hermaphroditic refers to anatomy, not attire. But then, I really
>> dated myself when I referred to the term "unisex"; it was (almost) popular
>> in the late sixties (along with the derisive "Can't tell the boys from the
>> girls anymore").
>
>I was taught "unisex" means "not specifically male or female." And since
>Rodman bounces between traditionally male and traditionally female attire,
>I figured the writer was taking the bi-gendered definition of bisexual.
>Thus...
>
>> Hermaphroditic should do fine: if it walks like a duck and drake, and quacks
>> like a duck and drake...
>
>We get that result. :)
>
Hate to pee in your sno-cone, sweetie, but we both think the author of
the original quote meant 'bisexual' in a perjorative way. Kind of
like it was synonymous with 'weird' or something.
- A & J
... who admittedly have no clue what 'bisexual' attire is. We wear
501's & black leather, and we never ever dye our hair orange & green.
Straycowboy
A & J wrote
>
>WOW!! Thank you for livening up an otherwise dry discussion with
>*this* sexy image!
>
>For the record, we *both* own leather jackets (black... Hey, it's New
>York City and , well, it's the law).
So what other interesting laws do you have there relating to clothing, ect.
Would like to really know , in case I ever decide to visit the NYC area?
Stewart
Whose only leather apparel is in his boots, belt, and his cowboy hat.
Gryffyn
>
>Hate to pee in your sno-cone, sweetie,
Oh God, yes, pee in my sno-cone, oh and I'd given up hope.
A & J
>
>So what other interesting laws do you have there relating to clothing, ect.
>
>Would like to really know , in case I ever decide to visit the NYC area?
>
>
> Stewart
>
>Whose only leather apparel is in his boots, belt, and his cowboy hat.
>
>
Well, the main one is the "Thou shalt wear black at all times" law.
Unless you've got the $$ to always be wearing the latest and greatest
designer togs (and who does? We sure don't.) Or unless you're young
enough to pull off a sk8boarder look (elephant jeans, chain on the
pocket, ski cap in all weather, dubious facial hair). Even the sk8r's
look silly in this stuff, but if we tried it, we'd just look *old* and
silly....
So, being 31 & 36, we stick to basic black. Boring? Maybe, but it
works. Thanks for asking. - A & J
Olaf Seibert
Muse451 <mus...@aol.com> wrote:
>Can I take a poll to figure out who has a leather jacket, so I may be
>proveledged to know who can fufill my fantasy of making love while I am in
>nothing but the other person's leather jacket?
My leather jacket has acquired some BSDM tendencies lately. The zipper
is broken, and if you're not careful when zipping it up you will be
stuck. I hope this does not spoil your fantasy.
>Wendy, young, horny, bi and on her way to Arizona where it's *warm*
Oh yes, I also have long hair ;-)
-Olaf.
--
___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert rhialto-at-mbfys-dot-kun.nl "I would be dead in
\X/ a week if I didn't do /something/. I'd be splattered all over the walls."
Brenda Daverin
both_...@REMOVEhotmail.com wrote:
> Hate to pee in your sno-cone, sweetie
Then pee in your own. Simple logic, really.
LRadnofsky
>bisexual. Every one. Now, heck, I seek them out. I try to figure out a
>way to start a conversation with them.
Anyone else fondly remembering "This Life"'s slightly fucked but otherwise
loveable Ferdy?
Louise
A & J
"Hate to pee in your sno-cone" as in "hate to rain on your parade".
Look in your encyclopedia under "sense of humor". Then go to Wal-Mart
and buy one. There's a big sale on "clues" too.
A & J
>> Hate to pee in your sno-cone, sweetie
>
>Then pee in your own. Simple logic, really.
>
>--
>Brenda Daverin bdav...@best.com
>The Unravelled Ferret - http://members.aol.com/lysana/
"I was taught "unisex" means "not specifically male or female." And
since Rodman bounces between traditionally male and traditionally
female attire, I figured the writer was taking the bi-gendered
definition of bisexual. Thus..."
Don't you think you really ought to take yourself a whole lot less
seriously? We stand by our original nihilistic approach to the whole
"bisexual attire" thingey. QED.
Gryffyn
A & J wrote in message <36eddf59...@news.mindspring.com>...
Whatever your problem is, I'd rather not know.
Straycowboy
rule............
I have sisters like that, always wanting to borrow other people's clothing,
never understood it, till now. Thanks for the insight, even though you
didn't mean it for me.
Stewart
Better informed of the teenage mind at work.
Muse451
>
>Whose only leather apparel is in his boots, belt, and his cowboy hat.
>
>
I can work with the hat.
Wendy, still young, bi, and hornier than last time (must purge...need...sexual
stimulation...), but back at home
Muse451
clothing will do though. I trade clothes with friends (male and female) all
the time *pictures her friend Brian in her feather boa at a rave* and if I ask
to wear a guys hat or (non friend) girl's bracelet or ring or something, means
I like them and am interested in *something,* I would not deem myself as a
clothehorse, but this seems to be the one exception.
What can I say? Other people's clothes look better on me than my own clothes.
Wendy, babbling.
Dawn S Friedman
>(I ran with the theatre/cultural studies/computer geek crowd
>:) -- short hair, no hair, aversion to leather, inability to afford leather,
>radical veganism, dedicated followers of fashion, etc.
You left out, "stunning blue-hazel-green-amber eyes," which for some
reason the theatre people *I* met were heavily armed with. So to
speak. Oh, and the lashes! (Eyelashes.)
--
Dawn Friedman d...@world.std.com
Straycowboy
Dawn S Friedman wrote
>
>You left out, "stunning blue-hazel-green-amber eyes," which for some
>reason the theatre people *I* met were heavily armed with. So to
>speak. Oh, and the lashes! (Eyelashes.)
>
eyelashes.... LOLOL.......I get women who always comment on both.
Even men take notice of my eyes, and make comments, mainly because they can
change colors within seconds sometimes.....
Not that you were interested, but had to mention it anyway.
Stewart
Who thinks of taking up hypnosis, while people are staring at him.
Kelly Carpenter
<s...@texramp.net> wrote:
Aaaah...I can't stand it! You people make feel so...so...plain. If I
ever meet any of you, I just know I'll fade into insignificance beside
you.
Kelly, dreaming of someone with hazel eyes and lovely lashes
"If you weren't so cute, I'd have to slap you sensible right now."--Vincent
Ferdinand
>>>
>>>Oh God, yes, pee in my sno-cone, oh and I'd given up hope.
>>
>
>Whatever your problem is, I'd rather not know.
>
>
Our problem is humorless people like you. We have tried to meet fun
new bisexual people thru this newsgroup, and what we have found
instead are people like you who take themselves oh so seriously that
they are compelled to shoot holes in anyone elses fun (wait a minute,
revise that. We meant anyone who isn't part of the 'in-crowd' of
posters here. We've *never* seen a more cliquish bunch! How many
posts about legitimate topics devolve into volleys of in-jokes among
the in-crowd?)
Cliquishness and humorlessness. What a great idea for a thread.
So, to answer your rhetorical question, srle...@svn.net
You da problem.
serene
Ferdinand wrote:
>
> "Gryffyn" <srle...@svn.netnospam> wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>>Oh God, yes, pee in my sno-cone, oh and I'd given up hope.
> >>
> >
> >Whatever your problem is, I'd rather not know.
> >
> >
>
> Our problem is humorless people like you. We have tried to meet fun
> new bisexual people thru this newsgroup, and what we have found
> instead are people like you who take themselves oh so seriously that
> they are compelled to shoot holes in anyone elses fun (wait a minute,
> revise that. We meant anyone who isn't part of the 'in-crowd' of
> posters here. We've *never* seen a more cliquish bunch! How many
> posts about legitimate topics devolve into volleys of in-jokes among
> the in-crowd?)<snip>
Gee, I'm new here and I don't like you already. Nothing to do with
cliquishness (but if it were, would I be self-aware enough to know
it? *grin*)--I just don't understand people who will stick around
somewhere where they're *not* having fun just to insult the people
who *are*. I just don't get it.
serene, happy new soc.biter because she generally ignores messages
like the above. Oh, wait... lol
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Feel free to provide authoritative references; in the meantime, you
won't mind if we conclude that you're simply making this up.--Ian York
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