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Jason Davies

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Oct 22, 2020, 7:12:34 AM10/22/20
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Hi folks,

I'm using an old Mac Pro to work from (I do have a Macbook air with camera but wifi is erratic and the machine is under-powered). It seems socially and politically impossible to continue without a webcam but I'm getting confusing info about whether webcams can be expected to work. Eg some logitech ones have software that refuses to run because the processor is too old (though it can handle anything I throw at it). I can't tell if the software is necessary or just useful.

Other sources say anything should work at a basic level.

I've tried virtual cameras using my iPhone but Teams and Blackboard Collaborate don't recognise them (boo, this would be perfect).

Is anyone using a (not expensive) webcam on a mac without a built-in camera (eg mac mini) who can say 'yep, this one works fine'. I honestly don't care about picture quality or even the mic. I'm running Mojave not Catalina (it won't run 10.15 at all). The smaller the better as there is not really anywhere on the desk for it (something on a 'stick' that has a small camera would be perfect). I don't want one that sits on the top of the monitor either! (not fussy, am I...)

(wish I'd kept the old FW iSight I had years ago now!)

Ps because they provide me with the Macbook Air, work's position is that they have provided me with a camera so they're not buying another one, which I guess is fair enough but I'm not switching to a slow laptop or spending a fortune just so they can inspect my lack of haircut...

Cheers,
Jason

Jason Davies

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Oct 22, 2020, 7:26:03 AM10/22/20
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Jason Davies

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Oct 22, 2020, 7:41:33 AM10/22/20
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(sorry for confusion of sending a duplicate, please ignore)

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Jason

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Oct 22, 2020, 10:36:12 AM10/22/20
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Hi Jason,
Just had a quick look on eBay and they’re several 2nd hand iSight cameras……..but maybe the lockdown locks should be even less in focus!
Nick

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Oct 22, 2020, 11:24:32 AM10/22/20
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I use a Logitech Quckcam Vision Pro camera with my 2009 ish Mac Pro using Catalina. It has a Tessar lens and microphone. It plugs into the USB socket on the front of the Mac Pro
It works well on Zoom, gives a better picture quallity than the camera built into the Apple 27inch screen. I bought it over 10 years ago it was about £70. 


Hope this helps

Derek

Jason P. Davies

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Oct 22, 2020, 6:26:11 PM10/22/20
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Hi Derek

Looks good, thank you (but how did you get Catalina running?!)

Thanks,

-Jason
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On 22 Oct 2020 at 16:24:32 BST, cwo...@gmail.com <cwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I use a Logitech Quckcam Vision Pro camera with my 2009 ish Mac Pro using
Catalina. It has a Tessar lens and microphone. It plugs into the USB socket
on the front of the Mac Pro
It works well on Zoom, gives a better picture quallity than the camera
built into the Apple 27inch screen. I bought it over 10 years ago it was
about £70.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Logitech+Quickcam+Vision+Pro+cameras&t=ffnt&atb=v120-1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.macworld.com%2Fimages%2Fnews%2Fgraphics%2F134090-logitechquickcamvisionpro.jpg

Hope this helps

Derek
On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 15:36:12 UTC+1 Nicholas Holt wrote:

> Hi Jason,
> Just had a quick look on eBay and they’re several 2nd hand iSight
> cameras……..but maybe the lockdown locks should be even less in focus!
> Nick
>
> On 22 Oct 2020, at 12:12, 'Jason Davies' via Sussex Mac User Group <
> sm...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm using an old Mac Pro to work from (I do have a Macbook air with camera
> but wifi is erratic and the machine is under-powered). It seems socially
> and politically impossible to continue without a webcam but I'm getting
> confusing info about whether webcams can be expected to work. Eg some
> logitech ones have software that refuses to run because the processor is
> too old (though it can handle anything I throw at it). I can't tell if the
> software is *necessary* or just *useful*.
>
> Other sources say anything should work at a basic level.
>
> I've tried virtual cameras using my iPhone but Teams and Blackboard
> Collaborate don't recognise them (boo, this would be perfect).
>
> Is anyone using a (not expensive) webcam on a mac without a built-in
> camera (eg mac mini) who can say 'yep, this one works fine'. I honestly
> don't care about picture quality or even the mic. I'm running Mojave not
> Catalina (it won't run 10.15 at all). The smaller the better as there is
> not really anywhere on the desk for it (something on a 'stick' that has a
> small camera would be perfect). I don't want one that sits on the top of
> the monitor either! (not fussy, am I...)
>
> (wish I'd kept the old FW iSight I had years ago now!)
>
> Ps because they provide me with the Macbook Air, work's position is that
> they have provided me with a camera so they're not buying another one,
> which I guess is fair enough but I'm not switching to a slow laptop or
> spending a fortune just so they can inspect my lack of haircut...
>
> Cheers,
> Jason
>
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Jason P. Davies

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Oct 22, 2020, 6:30:43 PM10/22/20
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It would complete the set to have an original...I have the old apple monitor to match!

Thanks,

-Jason
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On 22 Oct 2020 at 15:36:06 BST, nick_public1 via Sussex Mac User Group <sm...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Jason,
Just had a quick look on eBay and they’re several 2nd hand iSight cameras……..but maybe the lockdown locks should be even less in focus!
Nick

> On 22 Oct 2020, at 12:12, 'Jason Davies' via Sussex Mac User Group <sm...@googlegroups.com <mailto:sm...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm using an old Mac Pro to work from (I do have a Macbook air with camera but wifi is erratic and the machine is under-powered). It seems socially and politically impossible to continue without a webcam but I'm getting confusing info about whether webcams can be expected to work. Eg some logitech ones have software that refuses to run because the processor is too old (though it can handle anything I throw at it). I can't tell if the software is necessary or just useful.
>
> Other sources say anything should work at a basic level.
>
> I've tried virtual cameras using my iPhone but Teams and Blackboard Collaborate don't recognise them (boo, this would be perfect).
>
> Is anyone using a (not expensive) webcam on a mac without a built-in camera (eg mac mini) who can say 'yep, this one works fine'. I honestly don't care about picture quality or even the mic. I'm running Mojave not Catalina (it won't run 10.15 at all). The smaller the better as there is not really anywhere on the desk for it (something on a 'stick' that has a small camera would be perfect). I don't want one that sits on the top of the monitor either! (not fussy, am I...)
>
> (wish I'd kept the old FW iSight I had years ago now!)
>
> Ps because they provide me with the Macbook Air, work's position is that they have provided me with a camera so they're not buying another one, which I guess is fair enough but I'm not switching to a slow laptop or spending a fortune just so they can inspect my lack of haircut...
>
> Cheers,
> Jason
>
>
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Oct 23, 2020, 7:28:06 AM10/23/20
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Hi
Re getting Catalina onto my Mac Pro - I bought the Mac Pro from a company called Mac Pro about 6 years ago - it was a 2010 carcase and motherboard reflashed to be the equivalent of the trash can Mac Pro  (in performance but with the flexibility of the silver cased Mac Pro).  Recently I noticed that the company were selling Mac Pros running Catalina on eBay. I telephoned them to ask how they were achieving it and they offered to update my machine. They did it remotely with me doing some commands on the machine. 
Re Mac Pro or Mac Finder  - I have had good service and suport from them.

There is at least one web site describing how to Catalise other machines, I might see if I can update my early 2012 Macbook Pro using the method described on the web.  Basically you need to have another machine you can use to read the instructions on the web while doing things to the old machine. 

Good luck

Jason Davies

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Oct 23, 2020, 7:53:04 AM10/23/20
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I don't suppose you can send me a link to track them down? I'm not having much luck finding anyone that sounds like them.

I've seen a site (http://dosdude1.com/catalina/) where you download a patch but never had the time to sit down and work through it (also, slightly risky, I've never found these things as simple as they hope and don't want to have an inoperable machine). Thanks for the tip. The machine runs beautifully thanks to SSD on PCIE, extra RAM etc but with a new graphics card, I can't do the 'hold down a key at start-up' routine so the only way to force it to start up from a particular disk is to literally remove all the others physically;) If I can flash it to fix that, it'd be really handy.

cheers,
J

Jason Davies

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Oct 23, 2020, 8:30:22 AM10/23/20
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On 23 Oct 2020, at 12:52, 'Jason Davies' via Sussex Mac User Group
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> I don't suppose you can send me a link to track them down? I'm not
> having much luck finding anyone that sounds like them.

If it's these 'mac finder uk' guys
(https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/macfinder_uk), then I'm good...

Cheers,

Jason

cwo...@gmail.com

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Oct 23, 2020, 9:27:58 AM10/23/20
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Yes that is the name, they use several names, MacRefresh, MacFinder, Create Pro based in Ipswich but they all go back to the same place.
Cheers
Derek
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