Aperture migration

[Jonathan Brady]

Help!

For ages I put off updating my OS from Mojave to Catalina on a 2014 iMac. However, for some unknown reason I decided to update to Catalina over the weekend not realising that I would lose support for Aperture, Logic Pro, and my Final Cut 7.0 suite. Now the latter two are not major losses - although the idea of having to pay £598 altogether to replace both does leave a sour taste in the mouth - but I have a large image archive stored in my Aperture library all nicely organised and such. I did not make any changes to the library as was before I updated my OS. I have looked at a few of the options available for accessing the library and am minded to go down the native Photos software route. Can anyone tell me whether I can just ‘point’ the Photos app at the old Aperture library, which is stored on a Drobo drive, and immediately work with it as I would have done using Aperture or do I have to amalgamate the old Aperture library into some new Photos library thereby effectively duplicating the data? Any advice much appreciated.

Jonathan

[Sam - MacAmbulance]

The easiest way would be to open the Photos app holding down alt on the keyboard, then select to open the Aperture library. Photos should convert the library into its own format.

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[Paul R Owen]

Hi Jonathan,

Further to Sam’s reply I would suggest you have a look at Affinity Photo for editing your photos as an alternative to Aperture, it does not manage a library of photos but is an excellent full featured photo editor. It’s made by a UK company, based in Nottingham, and it only costs £23.99 and has a free trial. They also sell a nice hardback manual for the program. Considerably cheaper than an Adobe software annual license.

https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/photo/

Paul Owen

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[Stephen Watson]

Thank you Paul 😊 I used to have Aperture but let that go many years back. Thanks to your tip below I had a look at Infinity Photo and given that the iPad version is functionally equivalent to the desktop version and is half price I thought I’d be a numpty not to buy it. 👍

So, sharing the love with two image based bits of fun for those with iPads, here are two playful and joyful apps I’d really recommend- Frax and Uzu. Both are fantastically colourful, make great use of multitouch and can produce some remarkable results. Frax is very processor intensive so definitely best enjoyed on the latest iPad Air or an iPad Pro.

I look forward to the 1.3Gb download completing! 😆

Stephen

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[Jonathan Brady]

Thanks for the help peeps.

Will investigate the other apps you mentioned. Sam, would I be correct in thinking I can use that keystroke and Photos will behave towards the old library as Aperture would have?

Jonathan

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> Thank you Paul 😊 I used to have Aperture but let that go many years back. Thanks to your tip below I had a look at Infinity Photo and given that the iPad version is functionally equivalent to the desktop version and is half price I thought I’d be a numpty not to buy it. 👍

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[Jonathan Brady]

[Sam - MacAmbulance]

Photos will pick up all the images in the Aperture library, then it’ll treat that just like a standard Photos library

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[cwo...@gmail.com]

Take a look at

https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/10/27/how-to-run-aperture-iphoto-and-older-versions-of-itunes-on-macos-big-sur

I have Aperture running on Big Sur on 2009/10 Mac Pro

If you use RAW files then the Aperure program will not get updated RAW file definitions., so you woould have to convert the RAW files to DNG and then import nto Aperture.

The above convertion woorks on a few other apps.

[Jonathan Brady]

Help again!

Apologies for further boring on Aperture migration but I have hit what I hope is a temporary brick wall. I opened photos holding alt and pointed it to my Aperture library on my drobo drive. All good - photos said it was updating the library and making progress. I left it to do its thing. The next day the updating appeared to have concluded but I was now seeing a ‘repairing library’ progress bar with no photo population in the app. Unfortunately, the repair progress hung at 12% and the app stopped communication with the Drobo. At a loss at what to do, I quit the photos app. During the course of the process I have just described, photos had created a photos library on the Drobo next to the original Aperture library. I opened photos again using alt and again pointed it to the original Aperture library. Since then photos has hung on the updating library progress bar at 12% for the past half a day. It has created a second additional photos library on the Drobo. Should I leave it to run or just quit photos, delete both of the new libraries it has created and begin again? 

Many thanks,

Jonathan

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Jonathan.

Have you tried the conversion routine to make Aperture work under Catalina and Big Sur???????? as described in the web site I pointed to

[Jonathan Brady]

Hi. 

Not yet. That was going to be my next port of call. I take it that going down that route doesn’t alter the aperture library? My projects and folders should display as was, correct?

Thanks 

Jonathan 

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[Paul R Owen]

Hi Jonathan,

I’m getting increasingly frustrated with my Drobo (connected via USB). I use it for Time Machine (on a Drobo Dashboard created Time Machine partition, of a size at least twice what it needs) and during large backups, say after upgrading the OS, it can take more than 12 hours to do an incremental backup, I also hate the fan noise.

It uses a propriety disk format, and I suspect a lot of the delay is taken up with deleting old Time Machine backup files and copying one Drobo disk to another, I also have a Synology Disk Station (Ethernet) and that is no trouble at all. When SuperDuper! Is finally updated for BigSur I shall use that as well on my portable SSD (Belt, Braces and Elastic!). One interesting things is that all three devices use different disk formats.

I wonder if your Aperture is getting stuck during the conversion due to its large file size combined with the weird Drobo disk format and the Drobo disk management system.

Paul Owen

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[Jonathan Brady]

Hi Paul. Yes that could well be the case. The aperture library is 4.93 Tb in size. 

Jonathan 

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[cwo...@gmail.com]

It uses the same database - all it does is to convert the 32 bit code to 64bit code so it is compatible with Big Sur etc.  If you read the documentation it tells you how to get the images on the screen.
it will take  a few seconds to convert the code and then a while to refresh the images but as that can be done when you need it it is no real overhead

[Jonathan Brady]

I tried using retroactive which has allowed me to run Aperture but when I point Aperture to my old library it gives me a dialogue box saying ’the aperture library is open in com.apple.photos - to open this library you must quit com.apple.photos’  However, I am not running the photos app.  Have I f**ked my original library by trying to open it in photos?

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[cwo...@gmail.com]

do you have a backup database on some other media or in Time machine that you can go back to

[Jonathan Brady]

Ha! No of course not because that would have been the entirely sensible thing to do before I began this bloody saga. It gets better. Having abandoned the retroactive aperture route, I decided to import the aperture library into lightroom. That was progressing nicely until about 20% of the way through the import when the Drobo drive containing the aperture library ejected itself and died. Proper died. I thought that would never happen. For £100 I could have bought a 5TB drive and backed up the aperture library before starting all of this. But I didn’t. Now I have to wait to see whether I just need to replace the Drobo power cable or whether I need to buy a new Drobo. Then I need to pray the data isn’t completely screwed to buggery. Happy days!!

May this be a lesson to you all how not to upgrade your OS whilst at the same time failing to plan for the protection of any important archive material you may possess. 

Enjoy your weekend. 

Jonathan

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do you have a backup database on some other media or in Time machine that you can go back to

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[Sam - MacAmbulance]

I tried for months to import a client’s aperture library into Lightroom, it was 1.5TB and repeatedly stopped while importing.

In the ende reverted to Photos and she’s been using it fine ever since

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On 20 Feb 2021, at 16:28, Jonathan Brady <laddy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ha! No of course not because that would have been the entirely sensible thing to do before I began this bloody saga. It gets better. Having abandoned the retroactive aperture route, I decided to import the aperture library into lightroom. That was progressing nicely until about 20% of the way through the import when the Drobo drive containing the aperture library ejected itself and died. Proper died. I thought that would never happen. For £100 I could have bought a 5TB drive and backed up the aperture library before starting all of this. But I didn’t. Now I have to wait to see whether I just need to replace the Drobo power cable or whether I need to buy a new Drobo. Then I need to pray the data isn’t completely screwed to buggery. Happy days!!

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