Minyak SAJI

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shukor mohd

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Sep 5, 2010, 5:34:22 PM9/5/10
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pada hari Jumaat lepas, saya melihat 2 orang jiran kat kedai saya Temerloh menuang masuk 1 botol besar minyak SAJI  5kg kedalam kereta Terrano dia. Dia kata dah 2 kali tukar minyak injin dia guna minyak sawit olein cap SAJI menggantikan minyak pelincir petroleum biasa.
Seorang lagi gunakan minyak itu pada Wira dia.

Saya kagum.
Can somebody from any mechanical background explain this ?

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zairi muhammad

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Sep 5, 2010, 5:43:21 PM9/5/10
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tk tau tp viscousity dia tk sama dgn engine yg ori. lg pun at high temp minyak masak senang break up sbb boiling point dia is relatively lower. kalau minyak SAJI blh then minyak2 masak yg lainpun blh guna juga lah. mungkin hassan blh jwb kot.

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 05:34:22 +0800
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JBM

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Sep 5, 2010, 8:19:35 PM9/5/10
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Salams, orang contractor dn 4x4 enthusiasts dah buat perkara mcm ni dah lama, esp yg pakai guzzlers, biasanya campur petrol diesel dgn minyak masak utk ganti pure petrol or diesel as fuel, sukatan dia dlm 1/3 minyak sawit, but dont do this unless u have professional advice.
Kalo rosak depa jual kat unsuspecting buyers.

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tk tau tp viscousity dia tk sama dgn engine yg ori. lg pun at high temp minyak masak senang break up sbb boiling point dia is relatively lower. kalau minyak SAJI blh then minyak2 masak yg lainpun blh guna juga lah. mungkin hassan blh jwb kot.

zairi gmail

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"..tukar minyak injin guna minyak sawit olein cap SAJI menggantikan minyak pelincir petroleum biasa.."

jesli, kalau guna utk diesel as biofuel mcm hang mentioned tu ada la possibility (tp sampai 5 kg byk sgt pulak!), tp statement shukor di atas sebut ganti engine oil. mcm aku katalah, kalau utk engine oil pelik la sikit (dan 5 kg byk oo!)

ada sapa2 yg tau abt this?

Hasan Asri

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Sep 5, 2010, 11:00:43 PM9/5/10
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tak usah la kita ulas pasal minyak saji, kalau kita menggunakan minyak enjin sekalipon, kita kena pastikan
grade yg betul digunakan...kalau guna silap grade pon pasti boleh merosakan enjin dalam jangka masa panjang.Apatah lagi kalau Minyak Saji atau minyak2 masak yg lain digunakan lagi lah cepat lingkop enjin kereta kita!!!!!
 
"Viscosity is a measure of an oil's resistance to flow. For example, water has a low viscosity compared with honey, so in this case honey has a higher viscosity than water under the same temperature. Shell Helix products come in a range viscosities to suit different engines and driving conditions.

Most motor oils are multigrade, for example '5W-40', meaning that they are able to maintain their performance in high and low temperatures. The first number (followed by a 'W' for winter) indicates the lubricant’s viscosity under lower temperatures. The second and higher number indicates the lubricant’s viscosity under greater temperatures. A multigrade lubricant minimises viscosity differences under temperature variations.

A good quality lubricant keeps its viscosity steady under different temperature and usage conditions for a longer period of time."



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JBM

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Sep 5, 2010, 11:37:24 PM9/5/10
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Zairi, takdak la sampai 5kg sekali gus, dlm 1/3 dari 5kg sekali isi penuh, smooth lagi masa driving, power ada lebih tak pasti. Biasa toyota ninja turtle 4.2 yg pakai. Range rover tak pernah nampak pakai lagi.
Mcm manapun aku dah tersasar dari topic, hg betoi, hasan punya advise kita patut dengar, takut menyesal tak berlagu kalo injin meragam.

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"..tukar minyak injin guna minyak sawit olein cap SAJI menggantikan minyak pelincir petroleum biasa.."

jesli, kalau guna utk diesel as biofuel mcm hang mentioned tu ada la possibility (tp sampai 5 kg byk sgt pulak!), tp statement shukor di atas sebut ganti engine oil. mcm aku katalah, kalau utk engine oil pelik la sikit (dan 5 kg byk oo!)

ada sapa2 yg tau abt this?


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Salams, orang contractor dn 4x4 enthusiasts dah buat perkara mcm ni dah lama, esp yg pakai guzzlers, biasanya campur petrol diesel dgn minyak masak utk ganti pure petrol or diesel as fuel, sukatan dia dlm 1/3 minyak sawit, but dont do this unless u have professional advice.
Kalo rosak depa jual kat unsuspecting buyers.

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tk tau tp viscousity dia tk sama dgn engine yg ori. lg pun at high temp minyak masak senang break up sbb boiling point dia is relatively lower. kalau minyak SAJI blh then minyak2 masak yg lainpun blh guna juga lah. mungkin hassan blh jwb kot.

zairi muhammad

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Sep 5, 2010, 11:39:59 PM9/5/10
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salam hassan, aku setuju dgn hang, tapi apapun kita tk blh nk buat donno saja dgn apa yg shukor bagi tau. cuba hang baca point-ponit di bawah:

 

1.       pengurus pemasaran sekolah golf michael ismail, nik safian afzani omar berkata, beliau telah menggunakan minyak masak yang dibeli pada harga rm2.50 sepaket untuk enjin kereta kancilnya. "kancil saya menggunakan tiga liter minyak hitam. jadi, saya tuang dua paket setengah minyak masak untuk menyamai kuantiti itu. dahulu, kalau servis minyak hitam, saya berhabis sehingga rm130, tetapi sekarang kurang rm10. selepas menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak hitam, suhu enjin kereta saya sangat rendah dan meter suhu tidak pernah lebih dari satu takuk.”

 

2.       pencipta alat penjimat minyak kereta berasaskan gas hidrogen dan air, hisham abdullah, 43, turut menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak hitam untuk kereta proton iswaranya. beliau sudah menggunakan bahan itu setahun yang lepas dan mendapati tidak ada kesan negatif menimpa keretanya. bekas jurutera sebuah syarikat jepun serta graduan dalam bidang ekonomi dan kejuruteraan dari universiti arkansas , amerika syarikat itu berkata: "minyak kelapa sawit merupakan minyak paling sentitik, tetapi kita tidak tahu mengenainya. "

 

3.       mekanik kereta, mohd tajuddin jalil pula, mula mengetahui mengenai rahsia minyak masak sebagai ganti minyak hitam kira-kira dua tahun lalu selepas bertemu dengan seorang pakar minyak dari luar negara. sejak itu, beliau menggunakan minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit sebagai minyak hitam keretanya, malahan beliau mengenali 67 pengguna kereta di negeri sembilan yang menggunakan minyak masak sebagai pelincir enjin kereta mereka. "hanya minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit sahaja boleh digunakan sebagai minyak hitam. jangan pakai minyak masak berasaskan jagung, sayuran atau kacang kerana minyak ini pada suhu sejuk akan menjadi beku," katanya.

 

bagaimanapun, beliau menasihatkan orang ramai supaya menukar gasket kereta mereka kepada jenama yang lebih baik sebelum menggunakan minyak masak sebagai pelincir enjin kereta.`

 

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Hasan Asri

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Sep 5, 2010, 11:58:51 PM9/5/10
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salam zairi, susah la nak komen kalau tidak ada bukti scientifik kerana depa nie cuma "trial and error".
Tepulang la kepada masing2..adakah anda mau menanggung risiko hanya kerana anda jimat Rm10?


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shukor mohd

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aku bukan apa..cuma mana tau benda benda macam ni boleh dicommercialise kan. kalau ada cerdik pandai boleh buat research sikit, maka kita boleh dapat guna manafaat nya.
Bab technical spec tu kena lah orang berpengetahuan buat kajian. Mana tau kalau on nanti aku nak boh nama TAJI.
insyallah, bulan depan aku nak try pada honda cup aku dulu.

2010/9/6 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

zairi muhammad

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Sep 6, 2010, 12:03:13 AM9/6/10
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elok la tu cord, hang TAJI kat honda cup hang dulu. kalau tk ok kami TAJI hang balek.

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mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Sep 6, 2010, 12:13:38 AM9/6/10
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Actually kalau benda ni boleh akan bawa masaalah lain pulak.

1. Shortage of minyak masak

2. Bila shortage nanti harga pula naik

3. La ni ada orang do jual minyak recycle from lepas goreng di McD. Nanti tengok kita makan minyak masak recyle dari engine pulak.

4. Token company minyak macam shell, exxon akan sabo and dia org cartel kuat dah pegang gomen

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arsha...@yahoo.com

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In general I agree that we shud use the rite oil for d rite purpose.
But sometimes its gud to challenge d status quo. To use Saji is a gud example. If only we can do it systematically. Then we can derive a suitable conclusion.
Btw, like many other cars, my car manufacturer recommend 5000km for each service. But over d years I've been
doing it every 10000km without any issues.

zairi muhammad

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Sep 6, 2010, 12:22:20 AM9/6/10
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For normal organic oil, 5000 km is recommended. Prob u r using semi-synthetic of fully synthetic oil
and sure that can last for 10,000km. I m doing my oil change at every 15,000 km as recommended by the manufacturer.

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Mohd Poad Abdullah

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Sep 6, 2010, 12:28:03 AM9/6/10
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Isu ni lebih baik hangpa tanya pakar dari Porla, depa ni mungkin ada
data pasal aku rasa depa pernah buat research

Mohd Poad Abdullah

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arsha...@yahoo.com

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No Zairi. I thot u knew me already. Being a minimalist, I never use d synthetic or even semi-systhetic oil.
Actually I learn this from a colleague who also has been doing this with standard oil for years.

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arjunaidi jamaludin

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Sep 6, 2010, 12:42:57 AM9/6/10
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zairi,

what oil manuf recommend 15k service interval? 

arsha...@yahoo.com

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Sep 6, 2010, 12:44:39 AM9/6/10
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I m sori Faizal. This time I disagree with all yr points.
We dont change our oil that often as to cause a shortage in the palm oil supply. Even if the usage is that big, demand, I m sure our farmer wud be happy to cultivate more. So, I doubt d cost is going to change at all. Tq.

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Actually kalau benda ni boleh akan bawa masaalah lain pulak.

1. Shortage of minyak masak

2. Bila shortage nanti harga pula naik

3. La ni ada orang do jual minyak recycle from lepas goreng di McD. Nanti tengok kita makan minyak masak recyle dari engine pulak.

4. Token company minyak macam shell, exxon akan sabo and dia org cartel kuat dah pegang gomen
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aku bukan apa..cuma mana tau benda benda macam ni boleh dicommercialise kan.
kalau ada cerdik pandai boleh buat research sikit, maka kita boleh dapat
guna manafaat nya.
Bab technical spec tu kena lah orang berpengetahuan buat kajian. Mana tau
kalau on nanti aku nak boh nama TAJI.
insyallah, bulan depan aku nak try pada honda cup aku dulu.

2010/9/6 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

> salam hassan, aku setuju dgn hang, tapi apapun kita tk blh nk buat
> donno saja dgn apa yg shukor bagi tau. cuba hang baca point-ponit di bawah:
>
>
>
> 1. pengurus pemasaran sekolah golf michael ismail, nik safian afzani
> omar berkata, beliau telah menggunakan minyak masak yang dibeli pada harga
> rm2.50 sepaket untuk enjin kereta kancilnya. "kancil saya menggunakan tiga
> liter minyak hitam. jadi, saya tuang dua paket setengah minyak masak untuk
> menyamai kuantiti itu. dahulu, kalau servis minyak hitam, saya berhabis
> sehingga rm130, tetapi sekarang kurang rm10. selepas menggunakan minyak

> masak sebagai minyak hitam, *suhu enjin kereta saya sangat rendah* dan


> meter suhu tidak pernah lebih dari satu takuk.”
>
>
>
> 2. pencipta alat penjimat minyak kereta berasaskan gas hidrogen dan
> air, hisham abdullah, 43, turut menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak
> hitam untuk kereta proton iswaranya. beliau sudah menggunakan bahan itu

> setahun yang lepas dan mendapati *tidak ada kesan negatif* menimpa


> keretanya. bekas jurutera sebuah syarikat jepun serta graduan dalam bidang
> ekonomi dan kejuruteraan dari universiti arkansas , amerika syarikat itu

> berkata: "*minyak kelapa sawit merupakan minyak paling sentitik*, tetapi


> kita tidak tahu mengenainya. "
>
>
>
> 3. mekanik kereta, mohd tajuddin jalil pula, mula mengetahui
> mengenai rahsia minyak masak sebagai ganti minyak hitam kira-kira dua tahun
> lalu selepas bertemu dengan seorang pakar minyak dari luar negara. sejak
> itu, beliau menggunakan minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit sebagai minyak
> hitam keretanya, malahan beliau mengenali 67 pengguna kereta di negeri
> sembilan yang menggunakan minyak masak sebagai pelincir enjin kereta mereka.

> "*hanya minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit* sahaja boleh digunakan


> sebagai minyak hitam. jangan pakai minyak masak berasaskan jagung, sayuran
> atau kacang kerana minyak ini pada suhu sejuk akan menjadi beku," katanya.
>
>
>
> bagaimanapun, beliau menasihatkan orang ramai supaya menukar gasket kereta
> mereka kepada jenama yang lebih baik sebelum menggunakan minyak masak
> sebagai pelincir enjin kereta.`
>
>
>
>
>

> *From:* smsp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:smsp...@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Hasan Asri
> *Sent:* Monday, 6 September, 2010 11:01 AM
> *To:* smsp...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> tak usah la kita ulas pasal minyak saji, kalau kita menggunakan minyak
> enjin sekalipon, kita kena pastikan
>
> grade yg betul digunakan...kalau guna silap grade pon pasti boleh merosakan
> enjin dalam jangka masa panjang.Apatah lagi kalau Minyak Saji atau minyak2
> masak yg lain digunakan lagi lah cepat lingkop enjin kereta kita!!!!!
>
>
>
> "Viscosity is a measure of an oil's resistance to flow. For example, water
> has a low viscosity compared with honey, so in this case honey has a higher
> viscosity than water under the same temperature. Shell Helix products come
> in a range viscosities to suit different engines and driving conditions.
>
> Most motor oils are multigrade, for example '5W-40', meaning that they are
> able to maintain their performance in high and low temperatures. The first
> number (followed by a 'W' for winter) indicates the lubricant’s viscosity
> under lower temperatures. The second and higher number indicates the
> lubricant’s viscosity under greater temperatures. A multigrade lubricant
> minimises viscosity differences under temperature variations.
>
> A good quality lubricant keeps its viscosity steady under different
> temperature and usage conditions for a longer period of time."
>
>

> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
> *Sent:* Sun, September 5, 2010 2:43:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


>
> tk tau tp viscousity dia tk sama dgn engine yg ori. lg pun at high temp
> minyak masak senang break up sbb boiling point dia is relatively lower.
> kalau minyak SAJI blh then minyak2 masak yg lainpun blh guna juga lah.
> mungkin hassan blh jwb kot.

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>
> *From: *shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>
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> *Date: *Mon, 6 Sep 2010 05:34:22 +0800
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> *Subject: *Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> pada hari Jumaat lepas, saya melihat 2 orang jiran kat kedai saya Temerloh
> menuang masuk 1 botol besar minyak SAJI 5kg kedalam kereta Terrano dia. Dia
> kata dah 2 kali tukar minyak injin dia guna minyak sawit olein cap SAJI
> menggantikan minyak pelincir petroleum biasa.
> Seorang lagi gunakan minyak itu pada Wira dia.
>
> Saya kagum.
> Can somebody from any mechanical background explain this ?
>
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mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Sep 6, 2010, 12:51:24 AM9/6/10
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Shad farmer do not gain much but the commodity traders are the one who make more money. Actually prices are fictitious control by cartel and jews economy driving it coz they have interest in oil price.

Shortage to normally is not natural phenomena like we see sungar in our country they are people hoarding to cause shortage then play with market price.

The only way to have fair price is Islamic economy where a fair trader place is in heaven with Nabi saw but a trader who cheat even on weighing which we see as small they are doomed into hell fire
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zairi muhammad

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yes shad, even normal mineral-based engine oil is able to last longer kalau tk jalan jauh dan tk selalu bawa laju.

arsha...@yahoo.com

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Faizal,
That is precisely d point. The price is not very much dependent on real demand.


e-----
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To: SMS
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Shad farmer do not gain much but the commodity traders are the one who make more money. Actually prices are fictitious control by cartel and jews economy driving it coz they have interest in oil price.

Shortage to normally is not natural phenomena like we see sungar in our country they are people hoarding to cause shortage then play with market price.

The only way to have fair price is Islamic economy where a fair trader place is in heaven with Nabi saw but a trader who cheat even on weighing which we see as small they are doomed into hell fire
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I m sori Faizal. This time I disagree with all yr points.
We dont change our oil that often as to cause a shortage in the palm oil supply. Even if the usage is that big, demand, I m sure our farmer wud be happy to cultivate more. So, I doubt d cost is going to change at all. Tq.

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Sent: 06/09/2010, 12:13
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Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI


Actually kalau benda ni boleh akan bawa masaalah lain pulak.

1. Shortage of minyak masak

2. Bila shortage nanti harga pula naik

3. La ni ada orang do jual minyak recycle from lepas goreng di McD. Nanti tengok kita makan minyak masak recyle dari engine pulak.

4. Token company minyak macam shell, exxon akan sabo and dia org cartel kuat dah pegang gomen
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2010/9/6 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> tak usah la kita ulas pasal minyak saji, kalau kita menggunakan minyak
> enjin sekalipon, kita kena pastikan
>
> grade yg betul digunakan...kalau guna silap grade pon pasti boleh merosakan
> enjin dalam jangka masa panjang.Apatah lagi kalau Minyak Saji atau minyak2
> masak yg lain digunakan lagi lah cepat lingkop enjin kereta kita!!!!!
>
>
>
> "Viscosity is a measure of an oil's resistance to flow. For example, water
> has a low viscosity compared with honey, so in this case honey has a higher
> viscosity than water under the same temperature. Shell Helix products come
> in a range viscosities to suit different engines and driving conditions.
>
> Most motor oils are multigrade, for example '5W-40', meaning that they are
> able to maintain their performance in high and low temperatures. The first
> number (followed by a 'W' for winter) indicates the lubricant’s viscosity
> under lower temperatures. The second and higher number indicates the
> lubricant’s viscosity under greater temperatures. A multigrade lubricant
> minimises viscosity differences under temperature variations.
>
> A good quality lubricant keeps its viscosity steady under different
> temperature and usage conditions for a longer period of time."
>
>

> ------------------------------
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> *From:* zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

> *Sent:* Sun, September 5, 2010 2:43:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


>
> tk tau tp viscousity dia tk sama dgn engine yg ori. lg pun at high temp
> minyak masak senang break up sbb boiling point dia is relatively lower.
> kalau minyak SAJI blh then minyak2 masak yg lainpun blh guna juga lah.
> mungkin hassan blh jwb kot.

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> *Subject: *Minyak SAJI


>
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>
> pada hari Jumaat lepas, saya melihat 2 orang jiran kat kedai saya Temerloh
> menuang masuk 1 botol besar minyak SAJI 5kg kedalam kereta Terrano dia. Dia
> kata dah 2 kali tukar minyak injin dia guna minyak sawit olein cap SAJI
> menggantikan minyak pelincir petroleum biasa.
> Seorang lagi gunakan minyak itu pada Wira dia.
>
> Saya kagum.
> Can somebody from any mechanical background explain this ?
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peugeot & many other manufacturers. see new engines are much more efficient and able to withstand longer engine oil change intervals.

however to be on the safer side, use semi-synthetic oil. fully synthetic is a waste of money!

zairi muhammad

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Why worry? Now the muslim countries can control a bit more on the global economy. Go all out to palm oil planting. Get the good arabs (there are still many good arabs you know) to invest. Go and plant in African countries etc etc. Farmers will earn a lot more, their standard of living will improve thus palm oil industry will be another enabler to steer away msia from being in the "middle income trap". Nung is v well versed on this subject matter.

You see, there are abundant of related industries and business that will grow along with the success of the palm oil industry.

This whole thing will take time though but we should start from somewhere, shouldn't we?

2010/9/6 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

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Now u r getting warmer.

Its true, I seldom go long distance n always drive within speed limit (unlike some guys I know).

But I wud think, I represent d average driver among us.



-----Original Message-----
From: zairi muhammad
Sent: 06/09/2010, 13:02
To: zairi muhammad
Subject: RE: Minyak SAJI


yes shad, even normal mineral-based engine oil is able to last longer kalau tk jalan jauh dan tk selalu bawa laju.


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From: smsp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:smsp...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of arsha...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, 6 September, 2010 12:36 PM
To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Minyak SAJI

No Zairi. I thot u knew me already. Being a minimalist, I never use d synthetic or even semi-systhetic oil.
Actually I learn this from a colleague who also has been doing this with standard oil for years.

-----Original Message-----
From: zairi muhammad
Sent: 06/09/2010, 12:22

To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Minyak SAJI

For normal organic oil, 5000 km is recommended. Prob u r using semi-synthetic of fully synthetic oil
and sure that can last for 10,000km. I m doing my oil change at every 15,000 km as recommended by the manufacturer.

-----Original Message-----
From: smsp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:smsp...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of arsha...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, 6 September, 2010 12:18 PM
To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Minyak SAJI

In general I agree that we shud use the rite oil for d rite purpose.
But sometimes its gud to challenge d status quo. To use Saji is a gud example. If only we can do it systematically. Then we can derive a suitable conclusion.
Btw, like many other cars, my car manufacturer recommend 5000km for each service. But over d years I've been
doing it every 10000km without any issues.

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From: Hasan Asri
Sent: 06/09/2010, 11:00

To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

tak usah la kita ulas pasal minyak saji, kalau kita menggunakan minyak enjin
sekalipon, kita kena pastikan
grade yg betul digunakan...kalau guna silap grade pon pasti boleh merosakan
enjin dalam jangka masa panjang.Apatah lagi kalau Minyak Saji atau minyak2 masak
yg lain digunakan lagi lah cepat lingkop enjin kereta kita!!!!!

"Viscosity is a measure of an oil's resistance to flow. For example, water has a
low viscosity compared with honey, so in this case honey has a higher viscosity
than water under the same temperature. Shell Helix products come in a range
viscosities to suit different engines and driving conditions.

Most motor oils are multigrade, for example '5W-40', meaning that they are able
to maintain their performance in high and low temperatures. The first number
(followed by a 'W' for winter) indicates the lubricant’s viscosity under lower
temperatures. The second and higher number indicates the lubricant’s viscosity
under greater temperatures. A multigrade lubricant minimises viscosity
differences under temperature variations.
A good quality lubricant keeps its viscosity steady under different temperature
and usage conditions for a longer period of time."

________________________________
From: zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 2:43:21 PM
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

tk tau tp viscousity dia tk sama dgn engine yg ori. lg pun at high temp minyak
masak senang break up sbb boiling point dia is relatively lower. kalau minyak
SAJI blh then minyak2 masak yg lainpun blh guna juga lah. mungkin hassan blh jwb
kot.

________________________________

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 05:34:22 +0800
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Subject: Minyak SAJI
pada hari Jumaat lepas, saya melihat 2 orang jiran kat kedai saya Temerloh
menuang masuk 1 botol besar minyak SAJI 5kg kedalam kereta Terrano dia. Dia
kata dah 2 kali tukar minyak injin dia guna minyak sawit olein cap SAJI
menggantikan minyak pelincir petroleum biasa.
Seorang lagi gunakan minyak itu pada Wira dia.

Saya kagum.
Can somebody from any mechanical background explain this ?

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Tq Zairi Sahab the genius in statistic, economy, strategic. And also thanks to Arshad and et all for sharing on this interesting topic with all the knowledge

zairi muhammad

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some facts to ponder:

kelebihan minyak sayuran berbanding minyak mineral
1. indek kelicinan yg tinggi
2. indek viscosity yg tinggi (223); minyak mineral (100) - lebih tinggi
indek viscosity lebih stabil komposisi minyak
3. fire point yg lebih tinggi (326oC); minyak mineral (200 oC)
4. biodegradable
5. kandungan toksid yg lebih rendah
6. renewable

keburukan minyak sayuran berbanding minyak mineral
1. oxidative stability yg lebih rendah - senang teroksida
2. cepat pekat dan bertukar kepada polymer spt plastic
3. pour point yg tinggi

maknanya kalau minyak sawit is being treated with right chemicals to
eliminate all its negatives (easy oxidation property etc), it will be an
excellent engine oil and lubricants.

[sumber: merata]


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Behalf Of Mohd Poad Abdullah
Sent: Monday, 6 September, 2010 12:28 PM
To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

zairi muhammad

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(faizal, hang buat aku malu kat nung laaa!! nung dok gelak saja tu baca apa yg aku tulis..)

nung, komen la sikit esp tentang “middle income trap”.

 

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Faizal,
For my case, I cant say its knowledge. Its my own personal experience.

mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Well knowledge and experience is valuable to share. Knowledge without practice might not be proven.

mfaizal...@gmail.com

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Well Zairi you have pick up knowledge from mixing around with powerful business people and your experience in business give u the credibility.

Yes Nung where are you luv to hear ur idea

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:27:12 +0800
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arshad ahmad

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The palm oil in its original form is damn cheap. But if it has to go thru the process with the additives and testing and whatnot, it'll cost as much as the current engine oil.


From: zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
To: zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 1:20:56 PM
Subject: RE: Minyak SAJI

arshad ahmad

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San,
Bukan setakat RM10 yg buleh dijimat. Kalau ikut sample yg diberi, buleh jimat RM120 (130-10). If it works, it is worth it.


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To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 11:58:51 AM
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

muhamad yusoff

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Tuuu diaaaaa.........saudagar minyak

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Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

muhamad yusoff

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Ooooi kalu benda ni betoi....macam kita dok makan minyak enjin laaa...ha ha ha....

Sent: Monday, 6 September 2010 11:58:51
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

salam zairi, susah la nak komen kalau tidak ada bukti scientifik kerana depa nie cuma "trial and error".
Tepulang la kepada masing2..adakah anda mau menanggung risiko hanya kerana anda jimat Rm10?

From: zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
To: zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 8:39:59 PM
Subject: RE: Minyak SAJI

salam hassan, aku setuju dgn hang, tapi apapun kita tk blh nk buat donno saja dgn apa yg shukor bagi tau. cuba hang baca point-ponit di bawah:

 

1.       pengurus pemasaran sekolah golf michael ismail, nik safian afzani omar berkata, beliau telah menggunakan minyak masak yang dibeli pada harga rm2.50 sepaket untuk enjin kereta kancilnya. "kancil saya menggunakan tiga liter minyak hitam. jadi, saya tuang dua paket setengah minyak masak untuk menyamai kuantiti itu. dahulu, kalau servis minyak hitam, saya berhabis sehingga rm130, tetapi sekarang kurang rm10. selepas menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak hitam, suhu enjin kereta saya sangat rendah dan meter suhu tidak pernah lebih dari satu takuk.”

 

2.       pencipta alat penjimat minyak kereta berasaskan gas hidrogen dan air, hisham abdullah, 43, turut menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak hitam untuk kereta proton iswaranya. beliau sudah menggunakan bahan itu setahun yang lepas dan mendapati tidak ada kesan negatif menimpa keretanya. bekas jurutera sebuah syarikat jepun serta graduan dalam bidang ekonomi dan kejuruteraan dari universiti arkansas , amerika syarikat itu berkata: "minyak kelapa sawit merupakan minyak paling sentitik, tetapi kita tidak tahu mengenainya. "

 

3.       mekanik kereta, mohd tajuddin jalil pula, mula mengetahui mengenai rahsia minyak masak sebagai ganti minyak hitam kira-kira dua tahun lalu selepas bertemu dengan seorang pakar minyak dari luar negara. sejak itu, beliau menggunakan minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit sebagai minyak hitam keretanya, malahan beliau mengenali 67 pengguna kereta di negeri sembilan yang menggunakan minyak masak sebagai pelincir enjin kereta mereka. "hanya minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit sahaja boleh digunakan sebagai minyak hitam. jangan pakai minyak masak berasaskan jagung, sayuran atau kacang kerana minyak ini pada suhu sejuk akan menjadi beku," katanya.

 

bagaimanapun, beliau menasihatkan orang ramai supaya menukar gasket kereta mereka kepada jenama yang lebih baik sebelum menggunakan minyak masak sebagai pelincir enjin kereta.`

 

 

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Salam,

Imba boleh jawab kot?????

Khiax

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zairi muhammad

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mat khiax,
kat tmpt aku minyak SAJI habis sampai tk dak stok. depa dok kata goreng ikan guna minyak SAJI mmg sedap!

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:52:01 +0800

mohd zaid ahmad

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check kat dapog, ada sebotol MINYAK  SAJI
walaupun ada 'testimonial'  yg ada org dah guna sebagai MINYAK enjin, tak berani try lagi lah la ni. Takut silap haribulan , tak boleh balik raya.
Jadi gunalah MINYAK  tu  utk kegunaan seadanya, goreng AYAM, goreng IKAN, groeng bihun, goreng telog AYAM, dll.


2010/9/7 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

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Zaid,
jangan lupa goreng telog ayam MATA kerbau.

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Zaid,


jangan lupa goreng telog ayam MATA kerbau.

2010/9/8 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

   

 

 

 

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zaid,

Pasai apa highlight telok ayam?

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telok AYAM MATA LEMBU kot?


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Aku suka video ni pasal ada bunyi ayam berkokok. Ni minyak murni bukan minyak saji.

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aku nak joint venture dengan Murni la pulak lepas ni.SAJI dan MURNI = SANI

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atau MURNI dan SAJI = MUSA

mana rsanya lagi commercial SANI atau MUSA?

2010/9/15 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>
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Daje hang Hj, ke situ pula.
aku dok ingat bandingan antara SANI George of the Jungle dgn MUSA Hassan.

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M = makanan U= untuk R= rakyat N= negara I= ini 

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On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:18 PM, mohd zaid ahmad <zaid...@gmail.com> wrote:

atau MURNI dan SAJI = MUSA

mana rsanya lagi commercial SANI atau MUSA?

2010/9/15 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>
aku nak joint venture dengan Murni la pulak lepas ni.SAJI dan MURNI = SANI

Aku suka video ni pasal ada bunyi ayam berkokok. Ni minyak murni bukan minyak saji.

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:17:15 +0800
2010/9/8 Muhamad Khair Hasan <webg...@gmail.com>
telok AYAM MATA LEMBU kot?


2010/9/8 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>

Zaid,
jangan lupa goreng telog ayam MATA kerbau.

2010/9/8 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

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Oct 1, 2010, 12:06:05 AM10/1/10
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Salam Mat Lek,
 
Hang kenai tak Ikhsan Abdul Rahman (Petronas Iraq Operation Head)?

2010/9/16 Hasni <mhbmh...@yahoo.com.my>

Hasni

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Waalaikumsalam, bukan Ikhsan tapi Ikhlas. Kenai rapat tu taklah

shukor mohd

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Salam Tuan /Puan,

Minggu lepas, saya dah cuba guna minyaksaji ni kat motosikal CG125saya. So far, ok.
Tak dak apa apa documentation kept.

Hari ni saya tuang 3/4 botol minyak sawit olein chap SAJI berharga rm13.50 menggantikan minyak enjin  pada kereta Proton Iswara.
Hari ni dah record perjalanan 100 km ++. So far alhamdulilah.

Tengah tunggu dan lihat. Malas dah nak dengar orang cerita.Nak cuba sendiri.
Insyallah, saya akan lapurkan perkembangan selanjutnya.

2010/10/1 Hasni <mhbmh...@yahoo.com.my>

mohd zaid ahmad

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1/4 lagi baki buat apa?


2010/10/28 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>

mohd zabidi mohd zain

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he he, Tentulah guna utk menggoreng kawan2


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ridzua...@gmail.com

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 06:22:29 -0700 (PDT)

muhamad yusoff

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Hj Shukor.....hang tak bau sate ka...aku dah try ada bau sate la.


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arjunaidi jamaludin

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I am no mechanical engineer. i think vegetable oil viscosity too low and will probly damage engine. but i guess LeCoq is using his Iswara as a test bed :-)

2010/10/28 <ridzua...@gmail.com>

arjunaidi jamaludin

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cop, memang la bau satay.  kat California, depa use waste oil from burger joints, memang aroma exhaust kereta bau fried food

2010/10/28 muhamad yusoff <wi...@yahoo.com>

zairi muhammad

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wan,
zaid tk bagi guna minyak tu, dia suruh aku guna minyak lenga yg made in india. dia kata minyak lenga lg hebat, blh guna as engine oil, gearbox oil, power steering oil & auto transmission oil.
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:12:19 +0000

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Hangpa duk saling kata mengata pasai benda ni.. Imba duk peghati tu. Dia ngap nanti, kantoi semua


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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:42:02 +0000

shukor mohd

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alhamdulilah. Hari ini dah tukar minyak pelincir SAJI dari kereta aku untuk 3000 km drive.


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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:33:37 +0800

arjunaidi jamaludin

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Salam.  Haji, mana hang tau recommended vegetable oil change is 3,000 km? 



2010/11/30 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>

shukor mohd

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I have to set up some sort of standard...

2010/11/30 arjunaidi jamaludin <arju...@gmail.com>

Mohd Nasiruddin

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Lepaih ni try 4000km pulak, kalau boleh lagi jimat.


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Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:54:32
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

zairi muhammad

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Lepaih tu try 5,000km pulak, lepaih tu try 6,000km pulak, 7,000km, 8,000km & seterusnya sampai last sekali tk payah tukax langsung minyak hitam tu!

 

newsweek_1987_02_16_cord 02.jpgSeterusnya hang akan control seluruh pasaran minyak enjin di dunia. Hang akan jadi KAYAAA RAYAA, hang akan jadi MASYHUUUR seantero dunia, hang akan di SANJUUUNG di mana saja, hang akan diberi DARJAH GELARAN TERTINGGI oleh kerajaan, semua org Malaysia BANGGAAA dengan hang, semua umat Islam SANJUNG hang, dan mcm2 lagi.

 

Muka hang akan terpapar semua NEWSWEEK, TIME, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHY, SCIENCE TODAY dll. Hang akan dijemput utk beri ceramah di semua forum2 antarabangasa. NASA pun akan guna minyak hang untuk roket-roket ke angkasa.

 

Akhir sekali, suatu ketika nanti Bill Gates akan jatuh ditempat kedua, Warren Buffet ke-3, Sim ke-4, L Mittal ke-5.

 

 

 

HANG AKAN DISANJUNG SEBAGAI SAINTIST ISLAM TERULUNG ERA MODEN!

 

HIDOOOOP SHUKOR! HIDOOOOP SHUKOR! HIDOOOOP SHUKOR!

 

p/s – nanti dalam buku biografi hang, hang jgn la lupa tuleh nama aku sama naa. katalah aku ni kawan hang dari kecik yg byk bagi dorongan kat hang dsb. tolong naa.

 

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shukor mohd

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Nov 30, 2010, 3:10:51 AM11/30/10
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majalah Gila Gila tak dak ka?

2010/11/30 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
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Masukkanlah sekali dalam majalah URTV dan Mangga. Baru glamer sikit. Tapi kena lah bukak ketayap tuh. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: shukor mohd
Sent: 30/11/2010, 16:10
To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

majalah Gila Gila tak dak ka?

2010/11/30 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

> Lepaih tu try 5,000km pulak, lepaih tu try 6,000km pulak, 7,000km, 8,000km
> & seterusnya sampai last sekali tk payah tukax langsung minyak hitam tu!
>
>
>
> [image: newsweek_1987_02_16_cord 02.jpg]Seterusnya hang akan control

> seluruh pasaran minyak enjin di dunia. Hang akan jadi *KAYAAA RAYAA*, hang
> akan jadi *MASYHUUUR* seantero dunia, hang akan di *SANJUUUNG* di mana
> saja, hang akan diberi *DARJAH GELARAN TERTINGGI* oleh kerajaan, semua org


> Malaysia BANGGAAA dengan hang, semua umat Islam SANJUNG hang, dan mcm2 lagi.
>
>
>

> Muka hang akan terpapar semua *NEWSWEEK, TIME, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHY, SCIENCE
> TODAY* dll. Hang akan dijemput utk beri ceramah di semua forum2


> antarabangasa. NASA pun akan guna minyak hang untuk roket-roket ke angkasa.
>
>
>
> Akhir sekali, suatu ketika nanti Bill Gates akan jatuh ditempat kedua,
> Warren Buffet ke-3, Sim ke-4, L Mittal ke-5.
>
>
>

> * *
>
> * *
>
> *HANG AKAN DISANJUNG SEBAGAI SAINTIST ISLAM TERULUNG ERA MODEN*!
>
>
>
> *HIDOOOOP SHUKOR! HIDOOOOP SHUKOR! HIDOOOOP SHUKOR!*


>
>
>
> p/s – nanti dalam buku biografi hang, hang jgn la lupa tuleh nama aku sama
> naa. katalah aku ni kawan hang dari kecik yg byk bagi dorongan kat hang dsb.
> tolong naa.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> *From:* smsp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:smsp...@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mohd Nasiruddin
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November, 2010 2:52 PM
>
> *To:* smsp...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> Lepaih ni try 4000km pulak, kalau boleh lagi jimat.
>
>

> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>
> *To:* smsp...@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:54:32
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


>
> I have to set up some sort of standard...
>
> 2010/11/30 arjunaidi jamaludin <arju...@gmail.com>
>
> Salam. Haji, mana hang tau recommended vegetable oil change is 3,000 km?
>
>
>
>
>
> 2010/11/30 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> alhamdulilah. Hari ini dah tukar minyak pelincir SAJI dari kereta aku untuk
> 3000 km drive.
>
> 2010/10/28 <ridzua...@gmail.com>
>
> Hangpa duk saling kata mengata pasai benda ni.. Imba duk peghati tu. Dia
> ngap nanti, kantoi semua
>
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis

> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"zairi muhammad" <za...@emct.com.my>
>
> *Sender: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Date: *Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:42:02 +0000
>
> *ReplyTo: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject: *Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> wan,
> zaid tk bagi guna minyak tu, dia suruh aku guna minyak lenga yg made in
> india. dia kata minyak lenga lg hebat, blh guna as engine oil, gearbox oil,
> power steering oil & auto transmission oil.

> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *ridzua...@gmail.com
>
> *Sender: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Date: *Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:12:19 +0000
>
> *To: *smsp...@googlegroups.com<smsp...@googlegroups.com>
>
> *ReplyTo: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject: *Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> Dak aihh, suku lagi dia tuang masuk dlm peuguot 407 senyap2
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from Maxis

> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *mohd zabidi mohd zain <zabi...@yahoo.com>
>
> *Sender: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Date: *Thu, 28 Oct 2010 06:22:29 -0700 (PDT)
>
> *To: *<smsp...@googlegroups.com>
>
> *ReplyTo: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject: *Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> he he, Tentulah guna utk menggoreng kawan2
>
>

> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* mohd zaid ahmad <zaid...@gmail.com>
> *To:* smsp...@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 21:17:42
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI

> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>
>
> *Sender: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Date: *Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:17:15 +0800
>
> *To: *<smsp...@googlegroups.com>
>
> *ReplyTo: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject: *Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ALAJ3XkOo
>
> 2010/9/8 Muhamad Khair Hasan <webg...@gmail.com>
>
> telok AYAM MATA LEMBU kot?
>
>
>
> 2010/9/8 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Zaid,
> jangan lupa goreng telog ayam MATA kerbau.
>
> 2010/9/8 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
>
>
>
> <image001.gif> <image002.gif> <image003.gif> <image004.gif>
>
>
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> <image005.gif>
>
>
>

> *From:* smsp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:smsp...@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *mohd zaid ahmad
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 September, 2010 12:54 AM
>
>
> *To:* smsp...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> check kat dapog, ada sebotol MINYAK SAJI
> walaupun ada 'testimonial' yg ada org dah guna sebagai MINYAK enjin, tak
> berani try lagi lah la ni. Takut silap haribulan , tak boleh balik raya.
> Jadi gunalah MINYAK tu utk kegunaan seadanya, goreng AYAM, goreng IKAN,
> groeng bihun, goreng telog AYAM, dll.
>
> 2010/9/7 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
>
> mat khiax,
> kat tmpt aku minyak SAJI habis sampai tk dak stok. depa dok kata goreng
> ikan guna minyak SAJI mmg sedap!

> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *Muhamad Khair Hasan <webg...@gmail.com>
>
> *Sender: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Date: *Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:52:01 +0800
>
> *To: *<smsp...@googlegroups.com>
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> *ReplyTo: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject: *Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
> Imba boleh jawab kot?????
>
>
>
> Khiax
>
> 2010/9/7 muhamad yusoff <wi...@yahoo.com>
>
> Ooooi kalu benda ni betoi....macam kita dok makan minyak enjin laaa...ha ha
> ha....
>
>

> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Hasan Asri <smf...@yahoo.com>
> *To:* smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Sent:* Monday, 6 September 2010 11:58:51
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> salam zairi, susah la nak komen kalau tidak ada bukti scientifik kerana
> depa nie cuma "trial and error".
> Tepulang la kepada masing2..adakah anda mau menanggung risiko hanya kerana
> anda jimat Rm10?
>
>

> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
> *To:* zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
> *Sent:* Sun, September 5, 2010 8:39:59 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Minyak SAJI


>
> salam hassan, aku setuju dgn hang, tapi apapun kita tk blh nk buat donno
> saja dgn apa yg shukor bagi tau. cuba hang baca point-ponit di bawah:
>
>
>
> 1. pengurus pemasaran sekolah golf michael ismail, nik safian afzani
> omar berkata, beliau telah menggunakan minyak masak yang dibeli pada harga
> rm2.50 sepaket untuk enjin kereta kancilnya. "kancil saya menggunakan tiga
> liter minyak hitam. jadi, saya tuang dua paket setengah minyak masak untuk
> menyamai kuantiti itu. dahulu, kalau servis minyak hitam, saya berhabis
> sehingga rm130, tetapi sekarang kurang rm10. selepas menggunakan minyak

> masak sebagai minyak hitam, *suhu enjin kereta saya sangat rendah* dan


> meter suhu tidak pernah lebih dari satu takuk.”
>
>
>
> 2. pencipta alat penjimat minyak kereta berasaskan gas hidrogen dan
> air, hisham abdullah, 43, turut menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak
> hitam untuk kereta proton iswaranya. beliau sudah menggunakan bahan itu

> setahun yang lepas dan mendapati *tidak ada kesan negatif* menimpa


> keretanya. bekas jurutera sebuah syarikat jepun serta graduan dalam bidang
> ekonomi dan kejuruteraan dari universiti arkansas , amerika syarikat itu

> berkata: "*minyak kelapa sawit merupakan minyak paling sentitik*, tetapi


> kita tidak tahu mengenainya. "
>
>
>
> 3. mekanik kereta, mohd tajuddin jalil pula, mula mengetahui
> mengenai rahsia minyak masak sebagai ganti minyak hitam kira-kira dua tahun
> lalu selepas bertemu dengan seorang pakar minyak dari luar negara. sejak
> itu, beliau menggunakan minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit sebagai minyak
> hitam keretanya, malahan beliau mengenali 67 pengguna kereta di negeri
> sembilan yang menggunakan minyak masak sebagai pelincir enjin kereta mereka.

> "*hanya minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit* sahaja boleh digunakan


> sebagai minyak hitam. jangan pakai minyak masak berasaskan jagung, sayuran
> atau kacang kerana minyak ini pada suhu sejuk akan menjadi beku," katanya.
>
>
>
> bagaimanapun, beliau menasihatkan orang ramai supaya menukar gasket kereta
> mereka kepada jenama yang lebih baik sebelum menggunakan minyak masak
> sebagai pelincir enjin kereta.`
>
>
>
>
>

> *From:* smsp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:smsp...@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Hasan Asri
> *Sent:* Monday, 6 September, 2010 11:01 AM
> *To:* smsp...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


>
>
>
> tak usah la kita ulas pasal minyak saji, kalau kita menggunakan minyak
> enjin sekalipon, kita kena pastikan
>
> grade yg betul digunakan...kalau guna silap grade pon pasti boleh merosakan
> enjin dalam jangka masa panjang.Apatah lagi kalau Minyak Saji atau minyak2
> masak yg lain digunakan lagi lah cepat lingkop enjin kereta kita!!!!!
>
>
>
> "Viscosity is a measure of an oil's resistance to flow. For example, water
> has a low viscosity compared with honey, so in this case honey has a higher
> viscosity than water under the same temperature. Shell Helix products come
> in a range viscosities to suit different engines and driving conditions.
>
> Most motor oils are multigrade, for example '5W-40', meaning that they are
> able to maintain their performance in high and low temperatures. The first
> number (followed by a 'W' for winter) indicates the lubricant’s viscosity
> under lower temperatures. The second and higher number indicates the
> lubricant’s viscosity under greater temperatures. A multigrade lubricant
> minimises viscosity differences under temperature variations.
>
> A good quality lubricant keeps its viscosity steady under different
> temperature and usage conditions for a longer period of time."
>
>

> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
> *Sent:* Sun, September 5, 2010 2:43:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


>
> tk tau tp viscousity dia tk sama dgn engine yg ori. lg pun at high temp
> minyak masak senang break up sbb boiling point dia is relatively lower.
> kalau minyak SAJI blh then minyak2 masak yg lainpun blh guna juga lah.
> mungkin hassan blh jwb kot.

> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>
>
> *Sender: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Date: *Mon, 6 Sep 2010 05:34:22 +0800
>
> *To: *smspp7377<smsp...@googlegroups.com>
>
> *ReplyTo: *smsp...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject: *Minyak SAJI

shukor mohd

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Nov 30, 2010, 3:35:33 AM11/30/10
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Salam,
aku berhajat nak sedekah saja ilmu ni kalau jadi pun.Dok berangan dapat guna sikit pahala tu kat akhirat

2010/11/30 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
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zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 4:19:20 AM11/30/10
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Sensasi! Akan Berada DI Pasaran Tidak Lama Lagi..

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genera...@gmail.com

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Nov 30, 2010, 4:37:07 AM11/30/10
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Kena tukar bila properties minyak saji tu dah berubah - viscosity, colour, density, etc etc. So kena measure these before enjin and monitor as the km increases, say every 1000 km. Kalau no change in property or change within tolerance, continue use. Otherwise, change new saji oil. Then tengok pula cost. Kalau results show need to change every 5000 km and cost is less than other mineral engine oil, then minyak saji boleh pakai la. Also, don't forget to assess to what extent damage to engine, if any, any has been caused. Probably ada perkara lain juga.

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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:54:32 +0800

Mohd Poad Abdullah

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Nov 30, 2010, 7:59:33 AM11/30/10
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Untuk share pengalaman
aku guna minyak fully synthetic/ semi synthetic, aku tukar bila bunyi enjin kereta agak kasar. Aku tak ikut recommended km, sebab aku base on maklumat bahawa minyak selain fossil lambat berubah viscosity. Enjin baru kalau fully synthetic easily boleh dapat 20 - 40k depend on how you drive.   Enjin pun tau bila dia nak minta minyak baru.
 

zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 8:11:00 AM11/30/10
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poad,

even though hang  tk change the engine oil at regular intervals (synthetic recommends 15k – 20k km) tapi hang kena change oil filters etc ikut regular intervals. otherwise your engine parts will be affected in the long run thus ada possible reduction in the engine life span.

 

From: smsp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:smsp...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mohd Poad Abdullah
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010 9:00 PM
To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

 

Untuk share pengalaman

arsha...@yahoo.com

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Nov 30, 2010, 8:16:55 AM11/30/10
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Yup, we hv to agree with Zai.

Poad, u hv to be very alert and sensitive to do such thing. Kalau teghalit sikit, lingkop. Sounds very risky.



-----Original Message-----
From: zairi muhammad
Sent: 30/11/2010, 21:11
To: zairi muhammad
Subject: RE: Minyak SAJI


poad,

even though hang tk change the engine oil at regular intervals (synthetic

recommends 15k - 20k km) tapi hang kena change oil filters etc ikut regular

zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 8:44:16 AM11/30/10
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ah! steam lagi aku shad!

zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 8:48:21 AM11/30/10
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From: zairi muhammad [mailto:za...@emct.com.my]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010 5:19 PM
Subject: RE: Minyak SAJI

 

Sensasi! Akan Berada DI Pasaran Tidak Lama Lagi..

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Hameed Jr

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Nov 30, 2010, 9:24:19 AM11/30/10
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No kidding!!!


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To: za...@emct.com.my
Subject: RE: Minyak SAJI
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:48:21 +0800
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mohd zaid ahmad

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Nov 30, 2010, 9:34:19 AM11/30/10
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hj shukor,
wow! i guess your hands are full now with all the awards, titles, recognitions....etc.
 with your innovative ideas and efforts, you are flying high now. (though in reality i doubt  chicken can fly that high)
keep on going...................
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zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 10:04:25 AM11/30/10
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Zaid,

ni aku terjumpa satu lagi .....

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shukor mohd

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mohd zaid ahmad

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Nov 30, 2010, 10:20:49 AM11/30/10
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oct  2015?
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arsha...@yahoo.com

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Nov 30, 2010, 10:48:18 AM11/30/10
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Tak pa LeCoq. Sabaq. Hari ini dia hyperactive sikit.

-----Original Message-----
From: shukor mohd

Sent: 30/11/2010, 23:09
To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

(Jawi, tolong bagi ubat sikit kat sorang ni)

On 30 November 2010 23:04, zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my> wrote:

> Zaid,
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> ni aku terjumpa satu lagi .....
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> *From:* mohd zaid ahmad [mailto:zaid...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November, 2010 10:34 PM
> *To:* smsp...@googlegroups.com; zairi muhammad
> *Subject:* Re: Minyak SAJI


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> hj shukor,
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> wow! i guess your hands are full now with all the awards, titles,
> recognitions....etc.
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> with your innovative ideas and efforts, you are flying high now. (though
> in reality i doubt chicken can fly that high)
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> keep on going...................
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> *From:* zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
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> *To:* zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:48 PM
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> *Subject:* RE: Minyak SAJI
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zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 10:53:27 AM11/30/10
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shad,
hang salah. ni semua rancangan sakor sendiri untuk tujuan promosi minyak saji dia & akulah yg jadi mangsa.
kebetulan aku hari ni almost satu hari mengadap computer ada buat kerja sikit so boleh
lah tolong2 kempen untuk dia.


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Sent: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010 11:48 PM
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shuko...@gmail.com

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Nov 30, 2010, 11:02:55 AM11/30/10
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Shad,
Z tu dah 3 hari dok rumah berdua dengan isteri dia saja. Anak anak hantaq balik kampung. Tu yang dia tak keluaq pi mana pun. Jadi dia banyak la masa dok depan PC . Selain daripada tu dia dok buat apa tak tau lar.
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zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 11:08:41 AM11/30/10
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Kord,

hang jgn dok pangge aku Z! tk tahan aku!! Zai ok la sikit.

arsha...@yahoo.com

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Nov 30, 2010, 11:09:53 AM11/30/10
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Buat project lar, apa lagi.

zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 11:11:47 AM11/30/10
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shad,
maksud hang project paper kaa? ya memang betoi aku buat project (paper).

genera...@gmail.com

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Nov 30, 2010, 12:13:50 PM11/30/10
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Dia pun nak test minyak pelincir

zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 12:16:32 PM11/30/10
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personally i believe studies have been done regarding oil palm as potential engine lubricant especially by those organizations and agencies that have been seriously looking into alternative energy or renewable energy sources. prob isa has some info on the matter.

 

 

From: smsp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:smsp...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of genera...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010 5:37 PM
To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

 

Kena tukar bila properties minyak saji tu dah berubah - viscosity, colour, density, etc etc. So kena measure these before enjin and monitor as the km increases, say every 1000 km. Kalau no change in property or change within tolerance, continue use. Otherwise, change new saji oil. Then tengok pula cost. Kalau results show need to change every 5000 km and cost is less than other mineral engine oil, then minyak saji boleh pakai la. Also, don't forget to assess to what extent damage to engine, if any, any has been caused. Probably ada perkara lain juga.

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From: shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:54:32 +0800

Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

 

I have to set up some sort of standard...

2010/11/30 arjunaidi jamaludin <arju...@gmail.com>

Salam. ?Haji, mana hang tau recommended vegetable oil change is 3,000 km??

 

 

2010/11/30 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>

2010/10/28 <ridzua...@gmail.com>

 

2010/10/28 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>

Hari ni saya tuang 3/4 botol minyak sawit olein chap SAJI berharga rm13.50 menggantikan minyak enjin? pada kereta Proton Iswara.


Hari ni dah record perjalanan 100 km ++. So far alhamdulilah.

Tengah tunggu dan lihat. Malas dah nak dengar orang cerita.Nak cuba sendiri.
Insyallah, saya akan lapurkan perkembangan selanjutnya.

2010/10/1 Hasni <mhbmh...@yahoo.com.my>

 

Waalaikumsalam, bukan Ikhsan tapi Ikhlas. Kenai rapat tu taklah



On Oct 1, 2010, at 12:06 PM, munawer matkasa <munawer...@gmail.com> wrote:

Salam Mat Lek,

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Hang kenai tak Ikhsan Abdul Rahman (Petronas Iraq Operation Head)?

2010/9/16 Hasni <mhbmh...@yahoo.com.my>

M = makanan U= untuk R= rakyat N= negara I= ini?

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On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:18 PM, mohd zaid ahmad <zaid...@gmail.com> wrote:

atau MURNI dan SAJI = MUSA

 

mana rsanya lagi commercial SANI atau MUSA?

2010/9/15 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>

aku nak joint venture dengan Murni la pulak lepas ni.SAJI dan MURNI = SANI

 

Aku suka video ni pasal ada bunyi ayam berkokok. Ni minyak murni bukan minyak saji.

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From: shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:17:15 +0800

2010/9/8 Muhamad Khair Hasan <webg...@gmail.com>

telok AYAM MATA LEMBU kot?

 

2010/9/8 shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>

 

Zaid,
jangan lupa goreng telog ayam MATA kerbau.

2010/9/8 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

 

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From: smsp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:smsp...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mohd zaid ahmad
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September, 2010 12:54 AM


To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

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check kat dapog, ada sebotol MINYAK? SAJI
walaupun ada 'testimonial'? yg ada org dah guna sebagai MINYAK enjin, tak berani try lagi lah la ni. Takut silap haribulan , tak boleh balik raya.
Jadi gunalah MINYAK? tu? utk kegunaan seadanya, goreng AYAM, goreng IKAN, groeng bihun, goreng telog AYAM, dll.

2010/9/7 zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>

mat khiax,
kat tmpt aku minyak SAJI habis sampai tk dak stok. depa dok kata goreng ikan guna minyak SAJI mmg sedap!


From: Muhamad Khair Hasan <webg...@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:52:01 +0800

Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

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Salam,

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Imba boleh jawab kot?????

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Khiax

2010/9/7 muhamad yusoff <wi...@yahoo.com>

Ooooi kalu benda ni betoi....macam kita dok makan minyak enjin laaa...ha ha ha....

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Sent: Monday, 6 September 2010 11:58:51
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

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salam zairi, susah la nak komen kalau tidak ada bukti scientifik kerana depa nie cuma "trial and error".
Tepulang la kepada masing2..adakah anda mau menanggung risiko hanya kerana anda jimat Rm10?

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From: zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
To: zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 8:39:59 PM
Subject: RE: Minyak SAJI

salam hassan, aku setuju dgn hang, tapi apapun kita tk blh nk buat donno saja dgn apa yg shukor bagi tau. cuba hang baca point-ponit di bawah:

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1.?????? pengurus pemasaran sekolah golf michael ismail, nik safian afzani omar berkata, beliau telah menggunakan minyak masak yang dibeli pada harga rm2.50 sepaket untuk enjin kereta kancilnya. "kancil saya menggunakan tiga liter minyak hitam. jadi, saya tuang dua paket setengah minyak masak untuk menyamai kuantiti itu. dahulu, kalau servis minyak hitam, saya berhabis sehingga rm130, tetapi sekarang kurang rm10. selepas menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak hitam, suhu enjin kereta saya sangat rendah dan meter suhu tidak pernah lebih dari satu takuk.?

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2.?????? pencipta alat penjimat minyak kereta berasaskan gas hidrogen dan air, hisham abdullah, 43, turut menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak hitam untuk kereta proton iswaranya. beliau sudah menggunakan bahan itu setahun yang lepas dan mendapati tidak ada kesan negatif menimpa keretanya. bekas jurutera sebuah syarikat jepun serta graduan dalam bidang ekonomi dan kejuruteraan dari universiti arkansas , amerika syarikat itu berkata: "minyak kelapa sawit merupakan minyak paling sentitik, tetapi kita tidak tahu mengenainya. "

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3.?????? mekanik kereta, mohd tajuddin jalil pula, mula mengetahui mengenai rahsia minyak masak sebagai ganti minyak hitam kira-kira dua tahun lalu selepas bertemu dengan seorang pakar minyak dari luar negara. sejak itu, beliau menggunakan minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit sebagai minyak hitam keretanya, malahan beliau mengenali 67 pengguna kereta di negeri sembilan yang menggunakan minyak masak sebagai pelincir enjin kereta mereka. "hanya minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit sahaja boleh digunakan sebagai minyak hitam. jangan pakai minyak masak berasaskan jagung, sayuran atau kacang kerana minyak ini pada suhu sejuk akan menjadi beku," katanya.

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bagaimanapun, beliau menasihatkan orang ramai supaya menukar gasket kereta mereka kepada jenama yang lebih baik sebelum menggunakan minyak masak sebagai pelincir enjin kereta.`

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From: smsp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:smsp...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hasan Asri
Sent: Monday, 6 September, 2010 11:01 AM
To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

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tak usah la kita ulas pasal minyak saji, kalau kita menggunakan minyak enjin sekalipon, kita kena pastikan

grade yg betul digunakan...kalau guna silap grade?pon pasti boleh merosakan enjin dalam jangka masa panjang.Apatah lagi kalau Minyak Saji atau minyak2 masak yg lain digunakan lagi lah cepat lingkop enjin kereta kita!!!!!

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"Viscosity is a measure of an oil's resistance to flow. For example, water has a low viscosity compared with honey, so in this case honey has a higher viscosity than water under the same temperature. Shell Helix products come in a range viscosities to suit different engines and driving conditions.

Most motor oils are multigrade, for example '5W-40', meaning that they are able to maintain their performance in high and low temperatures. The first number (followed by a 'W' for winter) indicates the lubricant?s viscosity under lower temperatures. The second and higher number indicates the lubricant?s viscosity under greater temperatures. A multigrade lubricant minimises viscosity differences under temperature variations.

A good quality lubricant keeps its viscosity steady under different temperature and usage conditions for a longer period of time."

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From: zairi muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 2:43:21 PM
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

tk tau tp viscousity dia tk sama dgn engine yg ori. lg pun at high temp minyak masak senang break up sbb boiling point dia is relatively lower. kalau minyak SAJI blh then minyak2 masak yg lainpun blh guna juga lah. mungkin hassan blh jwb kot.


From: shukor mohd <shuko...@gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 05:34:22 +0800

Subject: Minyak SAJI

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pada hari Jumaat lepas, saya melihat 2 orang jiran kat kedai saya Temerloh menuang masuk 1 botol besar minyak SAJI? 5kg kedalam kereta Terrano dia. Dia kata dah 2 kali tukar minyak injin dia guna minyak sawit olein cap SAJI menggantikan minyak pelincir petroleum biasa.


Seorang lagi gunakan minyak itu pada Wira dia.

Saya kagum.
Can somebody from any mechanical background explain this ?

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mohd zaid ahmad

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Nov 30, 2010, 12:17:02 PM11/30/10
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Testosterone level tgh tinggi kot?

zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 12:21:21 PM11/30/10
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minyak pelincir aku guna MOLYBDENUM DISULPHIDE, MoS2, mcm dalam sentinel engine oil! extremely realiable, very long lasting!! hehehe...

 

MoS2 ni pun kalau buboh dalam minyak rambut, remoih jadi sanggoi!

zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 12:23:46 PM11/30/10
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zaid,

tok sah cakap banyak! nk menuntut bagi tau saja, anytime...

genera...@gmail.com

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Glycerine x main la ZAI kan?

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From: "zairi muhammad" <za...@emct.com.my>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 01:21:21 +0800
To: zairi muhammad<za...@emct.com.my>

Zairi Muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 12:58:19 PM11/30/10
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tu kena tanya saiful lah. hang sebut ZAI noo, aku kena pi buat projek lah! gud nite!
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:54:39 +0000

zairi muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 1:38:36 PM11/30/10
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dak lagi ooi! dok menaip.

 

From: genera...@gmail.com [mailto:genera...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010 2:16 AM
To: za...@emct.com.my; shuko...@gmail.com; zaid...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

 

Aku terjaga dari tidur
Bakai ada satu suara
Yang memanggil padaku...bangunlah
Aku pun capai BB ku
Lalu ku tahu siapakah ia
Rupanya batman ZAI dan robin ZAID
Tapi kemanakah burung hantu JES
Sudah sepurnama x menjelma
Tiga hari x jumpa bagai tiga tahun
Setahun x jumpa sesaat x lupa
Ohh ZAI...
Kau zzzzzz rupanya.....ouwww

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From: "Zairi Muhammad" <za...@emct.com.my>

Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:58:19 +0000

Zairi Muhammad

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Nov 30, 2010, 1:57:39 PM11/30/10
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jom semua kluangman, batman, batwoman, cicakman, owlman kita pi tidox. mlm ni kita tidox awai sikit dr biasa. gud nite everyone. askm.
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:23:24 +0000
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

Aku terjaga dari tidur
Bakai ada satu suara
Yang memanggil padaku...bangunlah
Aku pun capai BB ku
Lalu ku tahu siapakah ia
Rupanya batman ZAI dan robin ZAID
Tapi kemanakah burung hantu JES
Sudah sepurnama x menjelma
Tiga hari x jumpa bagai tiga tahun
Setahun x jumpa sesaat x lupa
Ohh ZAI...
Kau zzzzzz rupanya.....ouwww

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From: "Zairi Muhammad" <za...@emct.com.my>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:58:19 +0000

JBM

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Nov 30, 2010, 2:10:17 PM11/30/10
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Salams Batman Z and Robin Raymoih, ada dok perhati hampa, ni tengah buat projek paper, tak tahu pkl berapa baru dapat tidok, teringin nak join hampa, anyway gud nite guys.

-----Original Message-----
From: Zairi Muhammad <za...@emct.com.my>
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2010 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

jom semua kluangman, batman, batwoman, cicakman, owlman kita pi tidox. mlm ni kita tidox awai sikit dr biasa. gud nite everyone. askm.

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From: genera...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:23:24
To: <za...@emct.com.my>; <shuko...@gmail.com>; <zaid...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: genera...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

Aku terjaga dari tidur
Bakai ada satu suara
Yang memanggil padaku...bangunlah
Aku pun capai BB ku
Lalu ku tahu siapakah ia
Rupanya batman ZAI dan robin ZAID
Tapi kemanakah burung hantu JES
Sudah sepurnama x menjelma
Tiga hari x jumpa bagai tiga tahun
Setahun x jumpa sesaat x lupa
Ohh ZAI...
Kau zzzzzz rupanya.....ouwww
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Zairi Muhammad" <za...@emct.com.my>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:58:19
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Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

tu kena tanya saiful lah. hang sebut ZAI noo, aku kena pi buat projek lah! gud nite!

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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:54:39
To: <smsp...@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: smsp...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Minyak SAJI

Glycerine x main la ZAI kan?
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Zairi Muhammad

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gud nite, sleep tight!

shukor mohd

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