Khutbah Masjid Sri Petaling
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arjunaidi jamaludin
Feb 11, 2011, 1:52:18 AM2/11/11
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Bulan Rabiul Awwal, bulan ketiga adalah bulan kelahiran Nabi Muhammad
saw. Allah janjikan Muhammad insan yang terbaik. Kedatangan Muhammad
adalah rahmat bagi manusia.
saw. Allah janjikan Muhammad insan yang terbaik. Kedatangan Muhammad
adalah rahmat bagi manusia.
(Khatib tak guna skrip, susah saya nak ikut; minta maaf lain kali saya
cuba lagi)
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arshad ahmad
Feb 11, 2011, 2:46:10 AM2/11/11
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Tajuk khutbah hari ini . . . "api cinta". Skrip ada, projected lagi. Maaf tak dapat ikut. zzzz (Can't help it. I do this every day during lunch time).
Rasa2nya mengenai Valentine Day pada hari Isnin ini. Ok kita kena ikut fatwa yg diberikan mengenai hukum menyambut hari Valentine ini. Tapi kita tak boleh mengatakannya adalah hari perayaan umat kristian, kerana org kristian sendiri nafi perayaan ini ada kaitan dgn ugama depa. To be safe, just say that this is a non-Islamic celebration rather than a christian celebration.
Actually many things that are considered christian, are not originally from it. Even Christmas and the Gregorian calendar. Jesus Christ was never born on the 25th December and they admitted it. Likewise the Gregorian calendar (tho popularised or adopted by the Pope Gregory) was actually a Roman invention. The names of the months are the names of the Roman gods and emperors.
Sometime I wonder why we can be so averse about something that is perceived to be non-Islamic, especially when it is considered christian. Take the Gregorian calendar as an example. I believe there is a certain advantage that we can gain when using this calendar for our day-to-day business. The waktu solat are repeated for the same date every year. And in the temperate countries they can tell the season and predict the weather quite precisely. Even the weather in our tropical countries. We know roughly when the monsoon or rainy season is coming etc. We shud take it just like any other invention that happened after Rasulallah s.a.w., like a car, aeroplane etc. That is why when there are calls for us to use the Hijrah calendar for our day-to-day business, I personally believe this is not a practical thing to do. We will really isolate ourselves. Of course all dates pertaining to our religion (Hari Raya dates etc.), yes we shud continue with our Hijrah calendar. Btw, the Hijrah calendar never come during our prophet's (s.a.w) time.
From: arjunaidi jamaludin <arju...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 2:52:18 PM
Subject: Khutbah Masjid Sri Petaling
Rasa2nya mengenai Valentine Day pada hari Isnin ini. Ok kita kena ikut fatwa yg diberikan mengenai hukum menyambut hari Valentine ini. Tapi kita tak boleh mengatakannya adalah hari perayaan umat kristian, kerana org kristian sendiri nafi perayaan ini ada kaitan dgn ugama depa. To be safe, just say that this is a non-Islamic celebration rather than a christian celebration.
Actually many things that are considered christian, are not originally from it. Even Christmas and the Gregorian calendar. Jesus Christ was never born on the 25th December and they admitted it. Likewise the Gregorian calendar (tho popularised or adopted by the Pope Gregory) was actually a Roman invention. The names of the months are the names of the Roman gods and emperors.
Sometime I wonder why we can be so averse about something that is perceived to be non-Islamic, especially when it is considered christian. Take the Gregorian calendar as an example. I believe there is a certain advantage that we can gain when using this calendar for our day-to-day business. The waktu solat are repeated for the same date every year. And in the temperate countries they can tell the season and predict the weather quite precisely. Even the weather in our tropical countries. We know roughly when the monsoon or rainy season is coming etc. We shud take it just like any other invention that happened after Rasulallah s.a.w., like a car, aeroplane etc. That is why when there are calls for us to use the Hijrah calendar for our day-to-day business, I personally believe this is not a practical thing to do. We will really isolate ourselves. Of course all dates pertaining to our religion (Hari Raya dates etc.), yes we shud continue with our Hijrah calendar. Btw, the Hijrah calendar never come during our prophet's (s.a.w) time.
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Subject: Khutbah Masjid Sri Petaling
Mohd Faizal Ariffin
Feb 11, 2011, 3:40:18 AM2/11/11
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Shad,
Ini ceramah Ustaz Ahmad Awang on Gregorian calender
On Feb 11, 3:46 pm, arshad ahmad <arshada...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tajuk khutbah hari ini . . . "api cinta". Skrip ada, projected lagi. Maaf tak
> dapat ikut. zzzz (Can't help it. I do this every day during lunch time).
>
> Kalender Masehi ini ada nama gregorian atau julian atau roman calender. Kalender hijrah ialah tahun lahir umat Islam. 16 tahun lepas hijrah baru wujud kalender hijrah. Tahun hijrah berasas takwim Qamariah iaitu perjalanan bulan, tahun masehi berasaskan takwim syamsiah iaitu perjalanan matahari.
Bukan orang Arab sebelum Islam sahaja ikut perjalanan bulan tapi orang
Cina, orang Jepun dan orang India kira masa ikut perjalanan bulan.
Pada abad ke 19 dan 20 jepun, cina, korea menerima takwim kristian
ikut bulan.
Dalam Quran Surah At Taubah ayat 36 "Sesungguhnya bilangan bulan pada
sisi Allah adalah dua belas bulan, dalam ketetapan Allah di waktu Dia
menciptakan langit dan bumi, di antaranya empat bulan haram. Itulah
(ketetapan) agama yang lurus, maka janganlah kamu menganiaya diri kamu
dalam bulan yang empat itu, dan perangilah kaum musyrikin itu semuanya
sebagaimana merekapun memerangi kamu semuanya, dan ketahuilah
bahwasanya Allah beserta orang-orang yang bertakwa."
Allah dah tetapkan pengiraan masa ikut 12 bulan sejak Allah cipta
alam.
Surah Yunus ayat 5 "Dialah yang menjadikan matahari bersinar dan bulan
bercahaya dan ditetapkan-Nya manzilah-manzilah (tempat-tempat) bagi
perjalanan bulan itu, supaya kamu mengetahui bilangan tahun dan
perhitungan (waktu). Allah tidak menciptakan yang demikian itu
melainkan dengan hak. Dia menjelaskan tanda-tanda (kebesaran-Nya)
kepada orang-orang yang mengetahui."
Manzilah itu maksud tempat berhenti. Bulan ini bergerak dan berhenti.
Allah jadikan perjalanan ini untuk manusia kira masa. Dalam ayat At
Tauba Allah sebut ada 12 bulan, jadi Allah tetap dalam setahun ada 12
bulan.
Dalam surah Yasin ayat 37 - 40 Allah cerita tentang perjalanan bulan
dan matahari. Bulan mengelilingi bumi dalam masa 29 1/2 hari dalam
sebulan jadi tahun Qamariah ada 354 hari dan dalam masa sama bumi
mengelilingi matahari 12 kali dalam 365 hari.
Surah Yasin ayat 37 "Dan suatu tanda (kekuasaan Allah yang besar) bagi
mereka adalah malam; Kami tanggalkan siang dari malam itu, maka dengan
serta merta mereka berada dalam kegelapan."
Ayat 38 "dan matahari berjalan ditempat peredarannya. Demikianlah
ketetapan Yang Maha Perkasa lagi Maha Mengetahui."
Ayat 39 "Dan telah Kami tetapkan bagi bulan manzilah-manzilah,
sehingga (setelah dia sampai ke manzilah yang terakhir) kembalilah dia
sebagai bentuk tandan yang tua."
Ayat 40 "Tidaklah mungkin bagi matahari mendapatkan bulan dan malampun
tidak dapat mendahului siang. Dan masing-masing beredar pada garis
edarnya."
Masa orang Roman mengambil Kristian iaitu Roman Katholik maseh
mengekal Julian kalender. Tak sampai 500 tahun baru roman katholik
ambil Julian kalender sebagai kalender kristian. Asal roman kalender
ini roman tak percaya agama wahyu tapi sembah bulan, matahari. Sebab
itu bulan bulan dalam tahun masehi nama tuhan orang roman, jan dari
junus tuhan jaga pintu, Feb dari tuhan jaga kematian atau bulan mandi
suci. Dulu Feb ialah bulan 12 kerana Dec bulan sepulan. Mar ialah
tuhan perang mereka. April maksud musim bunga. May dari Maya ialah
tuhan perempuan ibu tuhan Jupiter. Jun dari Junus nama tuhan juga.
Julai dari nama raja Julius Ceasar. Nak hormat raja jadi 31, diambil
satu hari Feb tu Feb tinggal 29 hari.
Jadi sekarang kita ambil tahun masehi ini yang penuh dengan kurafat.
Pengaruh nama bulan ini diguna dalam hidup kita. Kita pergi bank Islam
hari ini tulis cek 6/2/1432 kerana akan kata salah haribulan encik.
Moga satu hari kita dapat guna kalender hijrah dalam urusan harian
kita.
> From: arjunaidi jamaludin <arjuna...@gmail.com>
Ini ceramah Ustaz Ahmad Awang on Gregorian calender
On Feb 11, 3:46 pm, arshad ahmad <arshada...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tajuk khutbah hari ini . . . "api cinta". Skrip ada, projected lagi. Maaf tak
> dapat ikut. zzzz (Can't help it. I do this every day during lunch time).
>
Bukan orang Arab sebelum Islam sahaja ikut perjalanan bulan tapi orang
Cina, orang Jepun dan orang India kira masa ikut perjalanan bulan.
Pada abad ke 19 dan 20 jepun, cina, korea menerima takwim kristian
ikut bulan.
Dalam Quran Surah At Taubah ayat 36 "Sesungguhnya bilangan bulan pada
sisi Allah adalah dua belas bulan, dalam ketetapan Allah di waktu Dia
menciptakan langit dan bumi, di antaranya empat bulan haram. Itulah
(ketetapan) agama yang lurus, maka janganlah kamu menganiaya diri kamu
dalam bulan yang empat itu, dan perangilah kaum musyrikin itu semuanya
sebagaimana merekapun memerangi kamu semuanya, dan ketahuilah
bahwasanya Allah beserta orang-orang yang bertakwa."
Allah dah tetapkan pengiraan masa ikut 12 bulan sejak Allah cipta
alam.
Surah Yunus ayat 5 "Dialah yang menjadikan matahari bersinar dan bulan
bercahaya dan ditetapkan-Nya manzilah-manzilah (tempat-tempat) bagi
perjalanan bulan itu, supaya kamu mengetahui bilangan tahun dan
perhitungan (waktu). Allah tidak menciptakan yang demikian itu
melainkan dengan hak. Dia menjelaskan tanda-tanda (kebesaran-Nya)
kepada orang-orang yang mengetahui."
Manzilah itu maksud tempat berhenti. Bulan ini bergerak dan berhenti.
Allah jadikan perjalanan ini untuk manusia kira masa. Dalam ayat At
Tauba Allah sebut ada 12 bulan, jadi Allah tetap dalam setahun ada 12
bulan.
Dalam surah Yasin ayat 37 - 40 Allah cerita tentang perjalanan bulan
dan matahari. Bulan mengelilingi bumi dalam masa 29 1/2 hari dalam
sebulan jadi tahun Qamariah ada 354 hari dan dalam masa sama bumi
mengelilingi matahari 12 kali dalam 365 hari.
Surah Yasin ayat 37 "Dan suatu tanda (kekuasaan Allah yang besar) bagi
mereka adalah malam; Kami tanggalkan siang dari malam itu, maka dengan
serta merta mereka berada dalam kegelapan."
Ayat 38 "dan matahari berjalan ditempat peredarannya. Demikianlah
ketetapan Yang Maha Perkasa lagi Maha Mengetahui."
Ayat 39 "Dan telah Kami tetapkan bagi bulan manzilah-manzilah,
sehingga (setelah dia sampai ke manzilah yang terakhir) kembalilah dia
sebagai bentuk tandan yang tua."
Ayat 40 "Tidaklah mungkin bagi matahari mendapatkan bulan dan malampun
tidak dapat mendahului siang. Dan masing-masing beredar pada garis
edarnya."
Masa orang Roman mengambil Kristian iaitu Roman Katholik maseh
mengekal Julian kalender. Tak sampai 500 tahun baru roman katholik
ambil Julian kalender sebagai kalender kristian. Asal roman kalender
ini roman tak percaya agama wahyu tapi sembah bulan, matahari. Sebab
itu bulan bulan dalam tahun masehi nama tuhan orang roman, jan dari
junus tuhan jaga pintu, Feb dari tuhan jaga kematian atau bulan mandi
suci. Dulu Feb ialah bulan 12 kerana Dec bulan sepulan. Mar ialah
tuhan perang mereka. April maksud musim bunga. May dari Maya ialah
tuhan perempuan ibu tuhan Jupiter. Jun dari Junus nama tuhan juga.
Julai dari nama raja Julius Ceasar. Nak hormat raja jadi 31, diambil
satu hari Feb tu Feb tinggal 29 hari.
Jadi sekarang kita ambil tahun masehi ini yang penuh dengan kurafat.
Pengaruh nama bulan ini diguna dalam hidup kita. Kita pergi bank Islam
hari ini tulis cek 6/2/1432 kerana akan kata salah haribulan encik.
Moga satu hari kita dapat guna kalender hijrah dalam urusan harian
kita.
Mohammad Naim Yaakub
Feb 11, 2011, 4:02:33 AM2/11/11
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Ooo, i like this writing.
arshad ahmad
Feb 11, 2011, 4:54:02 AM2/11/11
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Ok Faizal,
I noticed this statement in yr posting "tahun masehi ini yang penuh dengan kurafat". However I don't see any conclusive dalil in yr posting to support such a statement. In fact, if you look at Ayat 38 of the Surah Yaasiiiin (dan matahari berjalan ditempat peredarannya. Demikianlah ketetapan Yang Maha Perkasa lagi Maha Mengetahui). Even the syamsiah calendar are obeying hukum Allaah s.n.w. and using it will also acknowledge the supreme power of Allaah in administering the 'alam.
From: Mohd Faizal Ariffin <mfaizal...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 4:40:18 PM
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I noticed this statement in yr posting "tahun masehi ini yang penuh dengan kurafat". However I don't see any conclusive dalil in yr posting to support such a statement. In fact, if you look at Ayat 38 of the Surah Yaasiiiin (dan matahari berjalan ditempat peredarannya. Demikianlah ketetapan Yang Maha Perkasa lagi Maha Mengetahui). Even the syamsiah calendar are obeying hukum Allaah s.n.w. and using it will also acknowledge the supreme power of Allaah in administering the 'alam.
From: Mohd Faizal Ariffin <mfaizal...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 4:40:18 PM
Subject: Re: Khutbah Masjid Abu Bakar AsSiddiq
mfaizal...@gmail.com
Feb 11, 2011, 5:16:52 AM2/11/11
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Well it is not my statement I am quoting Ustaz Ahmad Awang mantan ketua dewan ulama Malaysia. The kurafat is the names of the month is greek god as the Christian took from roman who practice pagan and animism religion.
Everything tunduk pada hukum Allah cuma manusia, jin and syaitan ada yang langgar hukum Allah.
If u notice Allah mention in the quran the months like Ramadan, Muharam and bulan haji all base on moon. Allah mention also in Yasin He creates the bulan from sabit to full for us to measure time.
As Muslim we have to be proud our calender and get others to use it instead of following others.
Everything tunduk pada hukum Allah cuma manusia, jin and syaitan ada yang langgar hukum Allah.
If u notice Allah mention in the quran the months like Ramadan, Muharam and bulan haji all base on moon. Allah mention also in Yasin He creates the bulan from sabit to full for us to measure time.
As Muslim we have to be proud our calender and get others to use it instead of following others.
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arjunaidi jamaludin
Feb 11, 2011, 5:50:31 AM2/11/11
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Thanks to all for discussing this. I have alwys been interested in calendar systems, the Javanese have a 5-day week I believe, the Baha'is a 19-day,19-month calendar,etc.
I may not agree with Ustaz Ahmad Awang's contention regarding the Masihi calendar. I think it's ok to have a dual system that we have now.
sorry I can't be more eloquent .
arshad ahmad
Feb 11, 2011, 5:52:59 AM2/11/11
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I believe, it is kurafat when people believe in the Gods with those names (they are Roman and not Greek). Its something to do with aqidah. But I am sure >80% (just an estimate) of the muslim don't even know the fact about the names of months in the Gregorian calendar. So how can they believe when they don't even know. As for those who know (like me), there's no way we can believe in those gods. They are just names, like John, Peter and Michael. Is knowing and calling people of that name make us less Islamic. If the names of the month can be an issue, we can always refer them to the numeric way (bulan 8 for August etc.).
Btw, I am not suggesting we do away with the Hijrah calendar. So the Ramadhan, Muharam and the mths of Hajj must still be in use as in the current way.
And last Tuesday (5 Rabi'ul Awal), I became 52 years old and I didn't even know.
Btw, I am not suggesting we do away with the Hijrah calendar. So the Ramadhan, Muharam and the mths of Hajj must still be in use as in the current way.
And last Tuesday (5 Rabi'ul Awal), I became 52 years old and I didn't even know.
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arjunaidi jamaludin
Feb 11, 2011, 5:56:11 AM2/11/11
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mfaizal...@gmail.com
Feb 11, 2011, 6:05:33 AM2/11/11
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Well my ilmu no that high so tak berani comment banyak. Ok as long as our Aqidah is strong we have our own stand.
Cuma nabi saw always try to be different from non muslim, like Yahudi puasa 10 muharam nabi saw ask us to add 9 or 11 muharam to 10 Muharam. Yahudi keep janggut n misai panjang, to be different Muslim ask to trim misai and keep janggut panjang.
Saidina Ali says if Islam is base on logic then nak wudhu basuh bawa khuf (kasut kulit kambing), but nabi saw ask to sapu atas khuf.
Wallahulam.
Cuma nabi saw always try to be different from non muslim, like Yahudi puasa 10 muharam nabi saw ask us to add 9 or 11 muharam to 10 Muharam. Yahudi keep janggut n misai panjang, to be different Muslim ask to trim misai and keep janggut panjang.
Saidina Ali says if Islam is base on logic then nak wudhu basuh bawa khuf (kasut kulit kambing), but nabi saw ask to sapu atas khuf.
Wallahulam.
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 02:56:11 -0800
mustakim rashid
Feb 11, 2011, 6:12:38 AM2/11/11
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kadang2 ustadz ustadz u quote can be wrong too.
memang bagus dengar tazkirah atau ceramah agama ini ,
but at the end of the day do your homework and decide for yourself.
dont just take their word for it.
mcm dr asri kata.. banyak orang malaysia agama mas.. ugama mazhab al shafie...
memang bagus dengar tazkirah atau ceramah agama ini ,
but at the end of the day do your homework and decide for yourself.
dont just take their word for it.
mcm dr asri kata.. banyak orang malaysia agama mas.. ugama mazhab al shafie...
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mfaizal...@gmail.com
Feb 11, 2011, 6:14:29 AM2/11/11
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Well at least dari sini spark untuk kita kaji kalau tidak kita ambil buta saja.
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arsha...@yahoo.com
Feb 11, 2011, 7:37:35 AM2/11/11
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Faizal,
Ustaz Ahmad Awang ni, is he in the PAS leadership now? Then probably he is the one who came to my surau about a mth ago teaching this same topic. I learnt quite a bit from that short tazkirah he gave. He is very knowledgeable especially in this inter-faith comparison and I really respect him for that. However I still don't believe we shud isolate ourselves from d rest of d world for wanting to be a purist by simply using the singlular hijrah calendar.
Ustaz Ahmad Awang ni, is he in the PAS leadership now? Then probably he is the one who came to my surau about a mth ago teaching this same topic. I learnt quite a bit from that short tazkirah he gave. He is very knowledgeable especially in this inter-faith comparison and I really respect him for that. However I still don't believe we shud isolate ourselves from d rest of d world for wanting to be a purist by simply using the singlular hijrah calendar.
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Well it is not my statement I am quoting Ustaz Ahmad Awang mantan ketua dewan ulama Malaysia. The kurafat is the names of the month is greek god as the Christian took from roman who practice pagan and animism religion.
Everything tunduk pada hukum Allah cuma manusia, jin and syaitan ada yang langgar hukum Allah.
If u notice Allah mention in the quran the months like Ramadan, Muharam and bulan haji all base on moon. Allah mention also in Yasin He creates the bulan from sabit to full for us to measure time.
As Muslim we have to be proud our calender and get others to use it instead of following others.
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mfaizal...@gmail.com
Feb 11, 2011, 7:49:13 AM2/11/11
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Yes it is the same Ahmad Awang. Ok Shad I get ur point as I mention in other mail Fiqh can berubah ikut zaman. So it is ok to use dua calender. Cuma look at today when our youngster celebrate New Year Masehi macam orang putih dengan countdown then 9 months later ramai anak luar nikah.
Bila come W Muharam dir orang buat don't know. 10 Muharam banyak peristiwa pun orang dah tak kisah.
The other thing Musu on Asri fan. Ok setengah pandangan dia tapi bila di kutuk Syafie it is too much. Syafie is from Tabiin tabiin era, syafie hafal ratus ribu hadis, ilmu dia berkat. Asri took dis doctorate from a Jew professor and who is he compared to Syafie. But ok in ilmu he is better than me.
Bila come W Muharam dir orang buat don't know. 10 Muharam banyak peristiwa pun orang dah tak kisah.
The other thing Musu on Asri fan. Ok setengah pandangan dia tapi bila di kutuk Syafie it is too much. Syafie is from Tabiin tabiin era, syafie hafal ratus ribu hadis, ilmu dia berkat. Asri took dis doctorate from a Jew professor and who is he compared to Syafie. But ok in ilmu he is better than me.
arsha...@yahoo.com
Feb 11, 2011, 8:04:32 AM2/11/11
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I m glad those youngsters don't celebrate awal Muharram, d way they celebrate the Julian new year. Just imagine we use just one calendar :-) actually its not a laughing matter. There r people who celebrate Hari Raya with wine n beer.
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