- I use an app for 3D Printing called a "slicer" who prepares the file for 3D printing that would consistently crash on my Windows 11 setup during slicing (after 5 to 10 seconds max), but not on a virtual machine installed with VirtualBox (Windows 10)
For this scenario, it is important to mention that when using third-party applications such as the one you described, there could be miscalculations or misreadings and the results might not be that accurate when it comes to processor details
Our official tool and the one we rely on is the Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool, it does an overall test on the unit, and if it passes the test, it means it is working properly. You mentioned that the processor passed the test, which is great since based on those results, we can rule out a possible hardware issue with the unit.
When it comes to games crashing, since you are using a video card, the video card itself is actually the one that handles all the graphics tasks on your system. As an option, you can remove the video card, use just the integrated graphics controller only, and test the games to verify if the behavior is the same. Keeping in mind, that the performance while running games will depend on the game specifications and your whole hardware configuration. Games are usually GPU intensive, which is why we recommend to use a video card as you are currently doing so and also to verify the game requirements to make sure your platform complies with them.
The same recommendation is also provided for the 3D Printing "Slicer" since it might be using a lot of resources from the machine which will cause the crashing of the computer. Please verify the system requirements with the manufacturer of the 3D printer to confirm if your device fully supports it.
Even though you mentioned that the BIOS is up to date, still we recommend to get in contact directly with ASUS support just to make sure that the latest BIOS version is currently installed and if they suggest any BIOS settings that might improve the performance of the system. We always advise to use the PC with under the stock configurations with the default BIOS settings:
Everyone who bought i9-13900k is suffering in silence. Some don't even know what it is and getting their head burst out... Please do good and help everyone instead of taking long time to check everyone and telling all nonsense reasons even when you have a data of how many i9-13900k has gone wrong? Please at-least publish the data.
One chip was ran at stock and the other chip that just failed had a healthy stable under volt for 3 months and then even when runnng it back at stock, same issues until lowered the clock speeds from stock.
Even though it seems there could be a problem with the Intel processor itself, taking into consideration that you are using an ASUS motherboard, we actually have a series of troubleshooting steps for you to attempt in order to be completely sure that in fact there is a hardware issue with the unit.
I have had my worstation for 13 months and have never had any problems.
Four weeks ago I updated all recommended software, drivers and bios via the GIGABYTE Control Center. Since then I get constant system crashes and BlueScreens with the following error messages:
KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
I have NOT made any changes to the hardware configuration or installed any new software. I use the computer mainly for video and photo editing with Adobe products. The computer has NOT been tuned orr overclocked. I have done a fresh windows 11 installation on a external SSD connect via USB-C an the problem still exist.
I have the exact problem... Ive had every BSOD there is. I dont even have windows anymore... get crashes trying to install windows... tried everything. Its either the cpu or PSU.
Intels fail safe worked for a while. Well it worked better. Then it didnt.
I installed XTU, rebooted upon request.
When I try to start it, I get the following message : "Unable to start Intel Extreme Tuning Utility because of a system incompatibility (Windows VBS) and features that enable VBS if UVP is not enabled in BIOS".
You can't image how relieved I am, thanks to you (in the last 6 months, my setup was far from being stable, and I lost countless hours testing components one after another and trying to find a solution...).
I am not a intel employee.
As I see your problem, to me this seems to be a defective silicon.
Any cpu should be able to function absolutely perfectly under any load at absolute stock settings(XMP eneabled) in Bios if correct Ram and motherboard chipset is used.
What is your Vcore voltage now at the above settings with SVID at Intel Fail safe.
Further More If SVID is set at Intel Fail safe the cpu will burn out within 3 yrs as its just pushing high voltage to stabilise the defective cores
Hi Aryan,
Thanks for your advice, I'm not at all into overclocking or all the finesses of motherboard/cpu parameters tweaking (just want a reliable and powerful setup for my day to day work), so your insight is very valuable to me
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This tweak/tip guide will be full of caveats. Why? Because tweak guides should be full of caveats, of course. There are always implications and side effects to any choices you make when customizing a system.
I also work with a number of good DAW PC OEMs (companies that build DAW PCs). They tend to do even more for their systems. If you buy a custom DAW PC from a DAW OEM, and they do something different from what I indicate here, I would trust them to know what is the most stable thing for their system. They know the subset of hardware they target, and they know what they need to be able to support over time. They also know which subset of software they support, and how to get the most from it.
Remember, sound travels approximately one foot per millisecond. So the typical stage monitor, for a guitar player, is around 5-12 milliseconds of latency away from them (if not using in-ear). For those of us with studio monitors, they are usually 2-5ms away. Headphones have less latency, but only if wired. Wireless and Bluetooth protocols add their own latency in communications to the headphones.
Additionally, laptops and tablets are very prone to throttling the CPU to reduce heat. The last thing you need while recording is the CPU to slow down. This happens a lot with any consumer laptop that is optimized for size and weight rather than heat dissipation. Note that you can mitigate this a bit with dedicated active cooling pads for your laptop should you need to, but those little fans still tend to be quite loud.
Desktops also tend to give you more options for USB connections, as well as the ability to use wired networking rather than wireless. These are both extremely important for systems that will use many external devices.
There are many professional musicians who have completely different gigging vs home studio rigs. They often have desktops in the studio, and laptops for gigs/road. If you can swing this type of setup, you get the best of both worlds. You can use tools like OneDrive to automatically synchronize your data files between them.
When it comes to memory, I recommend new builders use the memory compatibility list the motherboard manufacturer releases. Most memory will just work, but the compatibility list will remove all doubt and help ensure you are able to get memory that performs to spec in your setup. How much memory you need will depend upon your use, but I personally recommend 32GB if you can, especially if you have integrated graphics and you work with sample libraries. Most everything will work well enough on 16GB, of course. 8GB can be stretching it and will be limiting, but folks still use it with the limitations in mind. I have 64GB in my PC not because I use that much with a DAW, but because some of the other work I do on this PC really benefits from the additional memory.
Your laptop, desktop, or motherboard manufacturer will almost certainly have BIOS updates available. Read the notes and check online forums for problems. If they look reasonable, update to the latest before you even install the OS. Staying with an old BIOS will often mean you lose compatibility with later processors and memory. Many motherboards in the past have required BIOS updates to work with Thunderbolt 3 as well.
Musicians often want to remap keys and have greater control over managing windows on their desktop. The open source Microsoft PowerToys makes those, and more, very easy to do. You can download and install them for free. You can even contribute your ideas (or code!) to help make the product even better.
Finally, if you use a PCIe (or Thunderbolt) solution for your audio interface, and maybe NVMe drives, and you also use a discrete graphics card, you will have to consider processors that support the minimum number of PCIe lanes that you need, or understand the compromises. Note also that some chipsets work well with Thunderbolt, and others, not so much.
Not a happy customer of AMD. When I got the 5600X a couple years ago, I also had a defective CPU that cost me endless hours of troubleshooting before eventually RMAing. Now my 7600X cpu is even worse. Really wish AMD had some QC. Here's the notes I provided AMD. Anyone else struggling to get a stable AM5 system with basic/default BIOS settings, good luck!
My CPU with BIOS defaults was boosting to 5450 Mhz. This apparently was too much, as once I set that override it now only boosts to 5250. Boost clock for 7600x is spec'd at 5300Mhz. I realize many AMD CPUs run above their spec fine, but in my case the AMD BIOS tunings were too aggressive. I started with the -200 just to see if I could get it stable. I'll try some smaller negative values later.
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