Latest Polar H7 support

[Josh Vogler]

The latest update showed Heart Rate Monitoring via Polar H7 is supported. So I updated, went into settings and ticked appropriate boxes. Put my H7 strap on, verified connection by opening Polar app (H7 connected). Slept as normal with tracking via my Pebble Time. I can't figure out where the H7 data went though. Everything looked the same as when sleeping without the H7 on. How do I confirm Sleep As Android was even using the H7 data?

[Petr Nalevka]

Petr replied Aug 23, 14:14 Hello, thank you very much for your message. Could you please send a debug report (menu button>report a bug) in order to help us investigate this issue? Did you pair the device in you device BT setting. Thank you very much. Best regards, Petr Nalevka Urbandroid Team Sleep as Android Googlegroup sent a message Aug 23, 13:51

The latest update showed Heart Rate Monitoring via Polar H7 is supported. So I updated, went into settings and ticked appropriate boxes. Put my H7 strap on, verified connection by opening Polar app (H7 connected). Slept as normal with tracking via my Pebble Time. I can't figure out where the H7 data went though. Everything looked the same as when sleeping without the H7 on. How do I confirm Sleep As Android was even using the H7 data?

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[Josh Vogler]

It doesn't give me the option to pair in Bluetooth settings. I just put it on my chest and then whatever app I open to read the sensor with "pairs" inside the app itself. I've researched online a little and can't seem to find any information on pairing within the Bluetooth settings of my phone. I will send a bug report right now. I'm still not sure if it's working or not working though. What specifically am I looking for within the Sleep As Android app that shows it's connected or working? I ran the Polar app in the background all night to confirm that the strap did remain connected all night and never disconnected. I just didn't see any difference with the graph indicating a heart strap was used. Or does it just use the data in the background and I shouldn't be seeing any indication of strap used?

Thanks for the quick reply.

[Josh Vogler]

Here is the subject line of the report I sent:

Sleep Crash report - 20150820 (1118) [Manual error]

Thanks again

[Petr Nalevka]

Petr replied Aug 24, 0:13 Hello, I only tested this on Lollipop so I'm not sure about earlier Android versions. But here is what I did: - put the H7 on my chest - open BT settings - search for near by devices - after a while Polar H7 shows up - tapping it shows pairing and in a while device is paired Please note that BT HR monitoring needs to be enabled in Settings > Smartwatch > BT Smart

Thank you very much. Best regards, Petr Nalevka Urbandroid Team

Sleep as Android Googlegroup replied Aug 23, 19:58

Here is the subject line of the report I sent: Sleep Crash report - 20150820 (1118) [Manual error] Thanks again

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Sleep as Android Googlegroup replied Aug 23, 19:53

It doesn't give me the option to pair in Bluetooth settings. I just put it on my chest and then whatever app I open to read the sensor with "pairs" inside the app itself. I've researched online a little and can't seem to find any information on pairing within the Bluetooth settings of my phone. I will send a bug report right now. I'm still not sure if it's working or not working though. What specifically am I looking for within the Sleep As Android app that shows it's connected or working? I ran the Polar app in the background all night to confirm that the strap did remain connected all night and never disconnected. I just didn't see any difference with the graph indicating a heart strap was used. Or does it just use the data in the background and I shouldn't be seeing any indication of strap used? Thanks for the quick reply.

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[William Scheidegger]

I am having a similar issue and was wondering if you figured this out?

I am using a Samsung Note 3:

• Model: SM-N900P
  
• Android: 5.0
  
• Build: LRX21V.N900PVPUEOH1
  

I have paired the Polar H7 heart rate sensor:

• Swipe down
• Settings Gear
• Connections
• Bluetooth
• Available devices
• Click/Touch "Polar H7 <ID>"
• Wait for pairing to complete (a couple of seconds)

Confirmed the H7 is working:

• Open Polar Beat (v1.2.7) and confirm connectivity
• Heart w/ rate in the lower-right quadrant of the app
• Confirm Visibility:
• Settings Gear
• General - HR Sensor
• Visibility is ON
• Battery FULL

Configured Sleep as Android (v20150909) to use the H7:

• Settings Gear
• Smartwatch
• Bluetooth Smart (LE) switched to the right and green
  

I start a sleep tracking session either from the phone directly (Moon icon at the bottom of the Alarms tab) or from my Pebble Time (App v3.4.0 / Watch v3.4).

The first time (09/29) this worked as advertised:

• The Heart showed up in the lower-right corner with a rate.
  
• The next day I had a red trace with the Upper and Lower rate noted in a circle.
  

The second time (09/30) I ended up with a trace for about two hours and the Upper/Lower annotations.

Since then sometimes the heart shows up, but I haven't had another trace.

Any thoughts or ideas?

[William Scheidegger]

​I have tested with this and it works too: https://github.com/marcolivierarsenault/PolarHeartRateApplication

I wonder if this is due to Sleep as Android not playing well with the Polar provided Beat app.

[Petr Nalevka]

Petr replied Cc: sleep-as...@googlegroups.com Nov 9, 13:16 Many thanks for the feedback. I have tested with Polar H7 on Nexus 5 and it worked well. But we have more reports that this is not working correctly and now we are trying to find out why. One issue may be that if connected through another app SaA stops receiving HR updates. Another issue may be that the device needs to you to pair it before you use it with Sleep as Android. Could you please try this and send a debug report form starting the sleep tracking and leaving it for ~2 minutes?

Thank you very much. Best regards, Petr Nalevka Urbandroid Team

Sleep as Android Googlegroup replied

Oct 3, 2:32

​I have tested with this and it works too: https://github.com/marcolivierarsenault/PolarHeartRateApplication I wonder if this is due to Sleep as Android not playing well with the Polar provided Beat app.

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Oct 3, 1:32

The second time (09/30) I ended up with a trace for about two hours and the Upper/Lower annotations. Since then sometimes the heart shows up, but I haven't had another trace. Any thoughts or ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sleep as Android" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sleep-as-an-droid unsub...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

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Sep 14, 22:15 I have exactly same issue. It is not related with pebble or config, since my pebble vibration works with sleep app on my tablet but not with my phone.

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Petr replied Aug 24, 0:13

Hello, I only tested this on Lollipop so I'm not sure about earlier Android versions. But here is what I did: - put the H7 on my chest - open BT settings - search for near by devices - after a while Polar H7 shows up - tapping it shows pairing and in a while device is paired Please note that BT HR monitoring needs to be enabled in Settings > Smartwatch > BT Smart Thank you very much. Best regards, Petr Nalevka Urbandroid Team

Sleep as Android Googlegroup replied Aug 23, 19:58 Here is the subject line of the report I sent: Sleep Crash report - 20150820 (1118) [Manual error] Thanks again -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sleep as Android" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sleep-as-an-dr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

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[Nicola Di Nisio]

Dear Petra,

I pick up from this old post as I have a similar problem, but the app has evolved quite a bit since then.

I happen to have a Polar H7 and I use it for HRV measurements with another app on my Motorola MotoG 3rd Generation. 

It works fine with that app, but Sleep does not seem to find my HR Strap. 

I have enabled under Settings/Wearables both "Use wearables" and "Bluetooth Smart".

It keeps showing me "Waiting for connectivity" and then the only thing I can do is to track without using the Polar H7.

Can you direct me at a solution, or do you need more info to debut this issue?

Kind Regards

Nicola

[Josh Vogler]

The only thing that works for me is this:

For some reason Sleep as Android won't connect to H7 if another app is already "connected". It's a real pain, but start your sleep tracking first and it will connect, and then go to the app you use for the HRV values and it should connect fine, then return to Sleep as Android.  This works for me every time.  Sleep as Android doesn't work very well if the bluetooth ever gets disconnected (which happens a lot on Marshmallow for me)  The app I use for HRV will automatically re-connect and continue fine....Sleep as Android will NOT however, and I won't get any more values after the bluetooth hiccup.

Hope this helps as a work-around.

Josh

[Nicola Di Nisio]

Thanks Josh,

I will try this tip out, however at the time I tried I was not running the HRV app (Elite HRV), so Sleep had exclusive access to the Polar H7.

Cheers

Nicola

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[Martin Stava]

Martin replied Feb 23, 15:59 Hello Nicola, thank you for your email. Could you do start sleep tracking (with enabled Polar H7) and keep it running let say for 2 minutes, then stop it and send a debug report (menu button>report a bug, or see a video) in order to help us investigate this issue?

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Feb 20, 10:57

Dear Petra, I pick up from this old post as I have a similar problem, but the app has evolved quite a bit since then. I happen to have a Polar H7 and I use it for HRV measurements with another app on my Motorola MotoG 3rd Generation. It works fine with that app, but Sleep does not seem to find my HR Strap. I have enabled under Settings/Wearables both "Use wearables" and "Bluetooth Smart". It keeps showing me "Waiting for connectivity" and then the only thing I can do is to track without using the Polar H7. Can you direct me at a solution, or do you need more info to debut this issue? Kind Regards Nicola

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[Martin Stava]

Martin replied Feb 23, 16:01 Hello Nicola, one more thing: What app are you using for HRV measurements?

Thank you very much. Best regards,

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Martin replied Feb 23, 15:59

Hello Nicola, thank you for your email. Could you do start sleep tracking (with enabled Polar H7) and keep it running let say for 2 minutes, then stop it and send a debug report (menu button>report a bug, or see a video) in order to help us investigate this issue?

Thank you very much. Best regards,

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Feb 20, 10:57

Dear Petra, I pick up from this old post as I have a similar problem, but the app has evolved quite a bit since then. I happen to have a Polar H7 and I use it for HRV measurements with another app on my Motorola MotoG 3rd Generation. It works fine with that app, but Sleep does not seem to find my HR Strap. I have enabled under Settings/Wearables both "Use wearables" and "Bluetooth Smart". It keeps showing me "Waiting for connectivity" and then the only thing I can do is to track without using the Polar H7. Can you direct me at a solution, or do you need more info to debut this issue? Kind Regards Nicola

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[Martin Stava]

Martin replied Feb 23, 16:04 Hello Josh, what app are you using for HRV measurements?

Thank you very much. Best regards,

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Feb 20, 23:55

The only thing that works for me is this: For some reason Sleep as Android won't connect to H7 if another app is already "connected". It's a real pain, but start your sleep tracking first and it will connect, and then go to the app you use for the HRV values and it should connect fine, then return to Sleep as Android. This works for me every time. Sleep as Android doesn't work very well if the bluetooth ever gets disconnected (which happens a lot on Marshmallow for me) The app I use for HRV will automatically re-connect and continue fine....Sleep as Android will NOT however, and I won't get any more values after the bluetooth hiccup. Hope this helps as a work-around. Josh

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[Thomas Backman]

Hello Martin,

I'm having the same issue, except with a Suunto Smart Sensor (also a chest belt-type HR sensor using Bluetooth Smart). The sensor works fine in other apps (Runtastic Road Bike, Elite HRV and SleepRate are those I've tested).

I sent a bug report as well, with the subject line "Sleep Crash report - 20170222 (1481) 23 [Manual error]".

Regards,

Thomas

[Nicola Di Nisio]

Dear Martin,

I have tried to start a sleep session with the Polar H7 enabled. It did not work, even though the Elite HRV app was able to connect to the Polar H7.

Then I saved the log file and inspected it. I got this interesting line

Permission missing: BODY_SENSORS READ_PHONE_STATE CAMERA READ_CALENDAR WRITE_CALENDAR WRITE_SETTINGS GET_ACCOUNTS 

It seems that the app has no permission to access the body sensors. 

I have gone into Settings/apps/App permissions and under there only the app Strava is authorised for body sensors, along with Google Play services.

Body sensors permission does not appear also under the view per app, when I go to check the permission of the app Sleep.

Is this a problem? If so, how to solve it?

I have sent in my crash report: Crash report - 20170222 (1480) 23 [Manual error]

 

Kind Regards

Nicola Di Nisio

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[Martin Stava]

Martin replied Mar 16, 14:26 Hello Nicola, thank you for your email. You are right you need have body sensor permission in order to connect Polar H7 and SaA. Just go to Settings/Apps - select Sleep as Android - Permissions - enable body sensors.

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Sleep as Android Googlegroup replied Mar 5, 21:31

Dear Martin, I have tried to start a sleep session with the Polar H7 enabled. It did not work, even though the Elite HRV app was able to connect to the Polar H7. Then I saved the log file and inspected it. I got this interesting line

Permission missing: *BODY_SENSORS* READ_PHONE_STATE CAMERA READ_CALENDAR

WRITE_CALENDAR WRITE_SETTINGS GET_ACCOUNTS It seems that the app has no permission to access the body sensors. I have gone into Settings/apps/App permissions and under there only the app Strava is authorised for body sensors, along with Google Play services. Body sensors permission does not appear also under the view per app, when I go to check the permission of the app Sleep. Is this a problem? If so, how to solve it? I have sent in my crash report: Crash report - 20170222 (1480) 23 [Manual error] Kind Regards Nicola Di Nisio

Sleep as Android Googlegroup replied

Feb 24, 14:27

Hello Martin, I'm having the same issue, except with a Suunto Smart Sensor (also a chest belt-type HR sensor using Bluetooth Smart). The sensor works fine in other apps (Runtastic Road Bike, Elite HRV and SleepRate are those I've tested). I sent a bug report as well, with the subject line "Sleep Crash report - 20170222 (1481) 23 [Manual error]". Regards, Thomas

Martin replied Feb 23, 16:01

Hello Nicola, one more thing:

What app are you using for HRV measurements?

[Nicola Di Nisio]

Dear martin

under Settings/Apps - select Sleep as Android - Permissions - "enable body sensors" is not present, even if I go under "All permissions"

See attached snapshot.

Kind Regards

Nicola

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[Martin Stava]

Martin replied Mar 16, 14:45 Hello Nicola, I did not get your debug report. Could you please send a debug report (menu button>report a bug, or see a video) in order to help us investigate this issue?

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Sleep as Android Googlegroup replied Mar 16, 14:43

Dear martin under Settings/Apps - select Sleep as Android - Permissions - "enable body sensors" is not present, even if I go under "All permissions" See attached snapshot. Kind Regards Nicola

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[Nicola Di Nisio]

Dear Martin,

it is here attached.
I also sent it to urbandr...@gmail.com on March 5th in the email with subject "Sleep Crash report - 20170222 (1480) 23 [Manual error]"

Kind Regards

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[Martin Stava]

Martin replied Mar 17, 11:47 Hello Nicola, I checked your log and found that SaA discovered 2 devices but not Polar H7. The issue is most probably in your other app is already paired with H7 and that's why SaA is not able to discover it. Unpair H7 from other apps and try it agin with SaA.

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Mar 16, 16:52

Dear Martin, it is here attached. I also sent it to urbandr...@gmail.com on March 5th in the email with subject "Sleep Crash report - 20170222 (1480) 23 [Manual error]" Kind Regards Nicola