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[Blind...@aol.com]

if skype is doing away with desk top api what will we do with out skype talking .

 

your friend lee

[Hrvoje Katić]

Hello,
I think we will be able to use URIs as a replacement, though in this case SkypeTalking will need to be rewritten from scratch.
Well, we will see how it will go, unfortunately life is not perfect and we have to expect everything.

On 1.8.2013. 11:38, Blind...@aol.com wrote:

if skype is doing away with desk top api what will we do with out skype talking .

 

your friend lee

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[Doris and Chris]

Go back to using skype just with the jaws scripts as I know you did
years ago before we were blessed with skypetalking or to hope for
native accessibility of skype without any extra help.

Hugs and smiles across the miles

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[Angela Delicata]

Actually, I use Skype with scripts and think it is pretty good.
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[Roger Stewart]

That's fine for all you wealthy folks, but the rest of us are using nvda
exclusively. Maybe there'll be an nvda app module developed for Skype.
I hope so as the only other choice right now is to stop using Skype forever.

Roger

[Doris and Chris]

AS has been said here, skypetalking can and will have to be rewritten
to work with the newer standard for mobile devices.

I am not exactly running the latest and greatest here that leaves
everyone behind: I am running skype 3.8 here. Most of the time I do
use jaws, an old versionan old version I might add. I do use nvda
more and more though and find it works adequately.

What did you do before 2009 or 2010? Did you simply not use skype? I
did use skype. I used skype and found a way to have it read text chat
before Mr. Lee ever scripted it to read skype's text chat. I used
Miranda to read skype's text chat as.

and what did and do window eyes users do? they have gw connect now -
which will have to be rewritten to still work . maybe gw micro will
start charging for gw connect as they do for social eyes. window
eyesset files for skype came muchlater than the jaws scripts . and
people still used skype.they needed to read stuff with the mouse
cursor. and they did. and my friends did well, sometimes better than
I did with the jaws scripts and miranda. It is how badly you want to
use a program and how much time - or sometimes money - you want or
are able to spend. the world is not going to stop turning because
skypetalking will or will not work. And I am not poopoohing the
usefulness of skypetalking at all. I point people to it again and
again. I just think we blind folks do not have a right to have
everything to be served on a silver platter all the time.

as I said, I still use an old version of skype with an old version of
miranda and an old version of jaws to read my skype chat. miranda's
reading of skype is api dependent. when it stops to work, i may have
to upgrade skype or miranda or both - or find a different solution.
and I am sure I will because many of my friends use skype and i do
not want to lose touch. But remember when it looked as if skype
itself might be shut down before MS bought it? would the world have
stopped turning? No. would people no longer have talked for free over
the internet? no.before 2004 nand skype, I used a program named speak
freely to talk. It took several friends to persuade me to get skype.
eventually I did. then some mutual friends got Mr. Doug Lee intersted
in skype and we said if he took interst, we'd have super scripts. Mr.
Lee was intersted ... and the rest is history. *g*

Keep reaching for the stars!

Doris

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[Kostadin Kolev]

Hello Doris,

Personally, I hope that Mr. Lee (or someone else) develops an NVDA addon
for Skype, but who knows if this will happen at all or not. Besides
that, the test versions of NVDA can automatically read incoming and
outgoing chat messages for the currently focused Skype window. I haven't
tested if it works in default view, as it works in the compact one.

As for GWConnect, if I'm not mistaking, the removal of Skype Desktop API
will not affect it, because GWConnect does not use it - it uses SkypeKit
to communicate with Skype.

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[Doris and Chris]

Yeah, I am hoping, too, that Doug will come up
with a plugin for skype that does not require
enabling it inside skype as skypetalking does.
Mr. Lee did show up on the skype developer list a
while back and was looking into developing a
skype add-on for nvda but this has not happened.

Oh, that's right about gw connect! I I remember
seeing this but got confused. So we may have gw connect for a while still.

let's hope we'll just always have choices on how
to access skype.I'll need to think what I do if
the old api really goes away. *g*

Thanks forthe feedback and c u around cyberspace!

Doris

At 10:10 PM 8/1/2013 +0300, you wrote:

>Hello Doris,
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>Personally, I hope that Mr. Lee (or someone
>else) develops an NVDA addon for Skype, but who
>knows if this will happen at all or not. Besides
>that, the test versions of NVDA can
>automatically read incoming and outgoing chat
>messages for the currently focused Skype window.
>I haven't tested if it works in default view, as it works in the compact one.
>
>As for GWConnect, if I'm not mistaking, the
>removal of Skype Desktop API will not affect it,
>because GWConnect does not use it - it uses SkypeKit to communicate with Skype.
>
>___
>Best wishes,
>Kostadin Kolev
>

>Ра 1.8.2013 г. 21:34 ч., Doris and Chris Ð½Ð°Ð¿Ð¸Ñ Ð°:

[Pavel Vlček]

Yes, but there are 64 bit operating systems which are installed on new laptops and Skype 3.8 is totally incompatible, the first version of skype, compatible with win 7 x64 was skype 5.5. I can use skype 6.7 with nvda, I can read chats, but I don’t know, who is online or offline My primary os is mac os and skype in mac has got voice system, which speaks incoming events.

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1. 8. 2013 v 20:34, Doris and Chris <chip...@gmx.net>:

[Pavel Vlček]

Yes and you don’t need to skype installed.

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[Richard]

If you keep up with NVDA, they are going to put skype acess into NVDA
itself, so no scripts needed, least that is what is proposed.
Richard

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[Roger Stewart]

That's great news! I heard it would work with the chats in the next
version, but didn't know it would work with Skype completely. I have
Skype set not to automatically update and I'll keep it at the current
version until I'm sure nvda will work with the newer version.

Roger

[Jorge Zarache]

hi friends,

my opinión is the following: personally, i use skype 6.6 with doug
lee's jaws scripts, and it Works perfectly. i have the skypewatch
feature configured and it can perfectly read each and every single
alert from skype. Doug lee is not using skype's desktop api at all for
creating the scripts, so i think there won't be any problema with
that. according to what Doris said, i think the same, referring to the
fact that blind users ourselves must find our own ways to make our
programs accesible some times, and not to wait for everything to fall
from the sky

2013/8/2, Roger Stewart <paga...@gmail.com>:

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[Angela Delicata]

Well said!
Angela from Italy


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hi friends,

my opini�n is the following: personally, i use skype 6.6 with doug lee's

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[Richard]

Like someone, that's OK for someone who can afford Jaws, but there are
people who don't have the finances or help to get the expensive program.
What someone told me from there, I'm not looking forward to having to use it
any more either.
Richard

[Curtis Delzer]

I use gw-connect which is completely speech friendly in all aspects,
including chat. All it won't do is video chat.


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[Raymond Grote]

I second that... My copy of Jaws was purchased by The state and I use it
because I still like it, even though I can only afford NVDA on my own,
for obvious reasons...
Just a little boring SKT fact: I've used Skype for basic things, like
chatting and calling, without scripts or SKT, because I was too lazy to
install either of them on my new PC. It was like that for a month before
I finally reembered how convenient they would be to have. of course now
I use them daily, but the point being that we can still survive without
SKT. It was struggling to keep up as it was, and hopefully it'll manage
after the API goes. I don't use Skype for Facebook, or any of the
outside stuff, but from what i heard, SKT wasn't doing quite so well
with those anyway. I definitely thank Rhvoje for all his hard work!
So with this Jaws scripts and SKT comparison. It's not as simple as,
let's just make a set of scripts that don't use the Skype API... The api
was created to be used more or less for a project like this. The fact
that it's no longer supported doesn't mean it wasn't worth using.
unfortunately, we're not all aspiring programmers and we can't all do
ingenious things like what Doug is doing with the scripts. Most people,
blind or sighted, would never be able to program two lines of working
code without a copy and paste, so are forced to wait for someone else
who has more expertise to do it. I don't see how this is waiting for
things to fall out of the sky. ON the other hand, I do agree that there
are a minority of blind people who don't know how to look around,
instead they assume there's an instant, perfect solution to every
accessibility issue. We're not quite there yet!
Like I said, Skype can be used on its own, at least the main parts of it
can. That's enough for me to survive on, if that's what it comes to.
BTW, what ever happened to the SKT revival? i thought that talking about
the dying API would start discussion on that.

[Fernando Gregoire]

You are right when you say about the lack of programming knowledge of most
blind people and some others expecting all solutions to fall from the sky.
As I am in the first group, I always try to help translating to, at least,
make the work people like Doug Lee or the SkypeTalking developers do for us
available and enjoyable in my language. I think it's is the minimum thing I
can do to recognize the efforts.

Although Skype can be used without accessibility "plugins", the help
provided by the scripts or SkypeTalking is very convenient for me and I
always recommend people to use them.

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Asunto: Re: R: [SkypeTalking] api

> my opinión is the following: personally, i use skype 6.6 with doug