Skypetalking is not working properly in new version of Skype 6.22

[Michal Suchý]

Hello. Will the new version of Skypetalking? I installed new version of Skype 6.22 and Skypetalking is not working properly. For example It does not read last event. Thanks, Michal.

[Andre Polykanine]

Hello Michal,

Microsoft has officially abandoned the Skype API.
So no, there won't be any new versions. And this is not Because Hrvoje
doesn't want to develop them, this is because Microsoft doesn't want
to support the API.


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[Hrvoje Katić]

Guys,
I heard that someone developed a patch to allow Skype API to continue
working. Is this true? If yes, I can continue with SkypeTalking, but
only if I will be able to share the program without patch included
inside the installation, cause this may be illegal.
Any info?
BTW, I became an active Linux user, so I can rather try to port
SkypeTalking to the Linux platform. Skype for Linux is not frequently
developed like Mac and Windows versions, so may be SkypeTalking will
work better with it.

[Chris G]

Hi,
From what I have seen, the only thing that functions properly in Skype
Talking with the latest Skype is chat events.
Even those don't function properly. For example, chats you send always
say not delivered yet even though they are.

No call events, no status changes etc.


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[Isolde Carmody]

Hi,

This does seem to be part of a worrying trend! Microsoft buys up a product, then abandons it, particularly with regard to accessibility. Same thing happened when they bought Nokia.

On Skype issues, I did notice that recent versions of JAWS screen-reader has built in codes for Skype - I take this as recognition of the importance of Hrvoje's work! However, for those of us who can't afford several hundred dollars a year for upgrades, we may just have to accept being left behind by technology again.

I know that's not helpful, but it's my two cents worth!

xox

Isolde

On Sunday, 2 November 2014 16:35:53 UTC, Michal Suchý wrote:

[Roger Stewart]

I think this just calls for the development of a Skype add on for nvda.


Roger

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[jim grimsby JR.]

The No Kia Skype comparison is unfortunate, unfair and untrue.  Microsoft abandoned an operating system when it  purchased no Kia in favor of  Windows.  This was a strictly business decision, and had absolutely nothing to do with accessibility.  The Symbian operating system, was in decline.  Microsoft would've had to devote a significant amount of time and resources to improve this operating system to the point where it was a viable solution.  Considering the fact that Microsoft already owned an operating system and was devoting a significant amount of resources to it.  It did not make sense from a business standpoint for Microsoft to continue development of this operating system.  It should also be noted that even though Microsoft is a huge company.  It does not have unlimited resources and just like any organization or society.  When you do not have unlimited resources, you must carefully decide how you wish to allocate the resources that you have.

 When Windows 10 is released it will support phones and all other devices from one operating system.  This means that you will be able to run Window-Eyes Job Access With Speech or any other screen reader, you may wish on this operating system and your mobile device.  As you can see, this will enhance accessibility, not diminish it.

 

  It should also be noted here that you will be able to use all of your desktop applications on your mobile device that you use on your desktop.  Microsoft is finally going to a right.  Once support all method.  This means that you should see a number of apps being ported over to Microsoft Windows due to the fact that they only will have to write the application once.  This also means theoretically that you could run a VM of android alongside your Windows operating system and take advantage of both powerful operating systems

 

Microsoft has discontinued support for the Skype API.  This is not surprising and has been expected for quite some time.  It is not fair to say the Skype has abandoned accessibility, because it has discontinued support for this API.  This API was never intended as an accessibility solution.  The fact that many screen readers have used it as such and the Skype talking program is also used it as such is irrelevant to the issue at hand.  Skype has excellent support for Microsoft Active Accessibility and any screen reader that wishes to use Microsoft Active Accessibility can query Skype and acquire all of the information available from  Skype itself without having to depend upon the third-party API.  In fact, the scripts for Job Access With Speech developed for Skype do exactly this.  It should also be noted that the scripts existed, before Skype talking and the feature set and the implementation has not been inspired as far as I know in any way by Skype talking itself.  I would agree with the sentiment that it is time to develop an add-on for nonvisual desktop access that will take  full advantage of Skype support for Microsoft Active Accessibility.  If done correctly.  This add-on would provide the same amount of support for Skype, that Skype talking provided.

 

In fact, I would  say that this is probably imperative that such an add-in be developed.  I suspect that when Windows 10 is released it will probably be using Skype to interface with phone chips, so this will mean that it will be your SMS and phone dialer.  In addition to the tool you use for Internet calling.  This seems to be the method employed by all of the major developers.  For example, Google hang out can now be used as a dialer and it can be used for SMS as we know Apple FaceTime and the phone app are highly integrated with each other.  It stands to reason that Microsoft will take the same approach as Google and Apple.  This means that those of us who wish to use Microsoft Windows on our phones will require excellent support for Skype.

I hope this clarifies the situation.

[Isolde Carmody]

I was speaking from an entirely selfish point of view! I mentioned Nokia simply because I can no longer get a mobile phone handset in Ireland with numbered keys that I can feel rather than a touchscreen. I got used to a number of applications that were specifically developed on Symbian OS, and I haven’t yet found replacements or equivalents that suit the way I want to use my phone.

My personal feeling is that the smart-phone / touch-screen revolution happened so quickly that a lot of accessibility resources built up over years suddenly became redundant. I don’t feel as if assistive technology has really caught up with these changes yet. It seems to me as though independent creators like Hrvoje are the innovators in assistive technologies, mostly because it’s VIPs who encounter the difficulties, and often come up with the best solutions. I don’t expect large mainstream companies to have it all sorted out, but I feel sad when those companies change their products in a way that excludes 3^rd party adaptation.

Thanks for all the inside information. Very interesting!

All the best,

Isolde

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