Dashes

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How do enter an en or em dash in text and in dialogues? 

You used to be able to enter them in the grid using Ctrl+- or Shift+Ctrl+-, and in the grid and dialogue boxes by holding down the Alt key and entering 0150 or 0151 , but neither of those work any more. In the Grid and the Index pane you can enter the Unicode 2013 or 2014 followed by Alt-X, but it doesn't work in the dialogues. I often need to use the Replace dialogue to find hyphens and convert them to dashes, and also sometimes to convert strange combinations of characters produced by Excel, but I can't figure out how to enter a dash in the Replace box without scratching around in the character map or copying and pasting from another program. Any clues?

Michael

[AElfwine Mischler]

I'm on Sky 8. I just tested out using Alt + 0151 for em dash and Alt + 0150 for en dash, and a few other characters. They all worked for me in the grid and the index viewing pane.

If you know the Unicode values (which you do), you can easily find them in the character map once by using the Unicode value and then copy them into the Translation Manager. I set up a Translation with an equal sign = for en dash and a swing dash ~ for em dash. I just find that faster to type than using Alt codes. If I copy from some other text, I sometimes have problems with fonts in the generated index.

I don't know why you're having problems. I'm not savvy that way.

Ælfwine Mischler

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[Deborah Patton]

What I do now to find the en dash in the character map is to search for it. In v8, with the character map open, it may be truncated. In the lower left corner is 'advanced view' -- when I check that box, it opens up and the last line is 'Search for.' I type in the words 'en dash' then hit the enter key and boom -- it's right there to select and copy.

Hope that helps,

Deborah

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[Michael Wyatt]

Thank you Ælfwine and Deborah. I was hoping that there was an easy and intuitive way to produce these dashes like the use in Word of Ctrl+- and Ctrl+Shift+- , but it seems this feature has disappeared with updates to Sky. I detest using the character map, especially for characters I need with any frequency (and typing "en dash" in the search box brought up nothing for me, I've no idea why). Thanks especially for the Translation tip; it certainly makes find-and-replace a breeze. I have set it up in my default template so it's always there when I need it.

I really appreciate the help I get from this group.

Michael

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Michael Wyatt

[Line by Line Indexing]

I like Ælfwine's suggestion for using the Translation Manager.  I never thought of that!

Macro Express is the program that runs Margret's macros, so if you have that program, creating a macro is another easy option.  Using Macro Express, I created a macro that produces an en dash in SKY when I press ALT+-.

Michelle 

Michelle Guiliano

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