tilde letter

[Siusan Moffat]

Hi there,

I just can't find or make ñ in Sky (or elsewhere). Am I missing something?

I can't even make it in word using the shortcut ( alt+0209).

I am definitely missing something.

Also, is there an easy way to find a diacritic in the character map? I'm
almost always scrolling and scrolling and have to see something 2 or 3
times to recognize and choose it.

Siusan

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[Jochen Fassbender]

Hi Siusan,

Obviously you can create this diacritic; it is correctly displayed in your post.

So why not just copy & paste it into SKY? The basic character map also contains it.

Jochen

[Amanda Rodgers]

Hi Siusan, 

Try typing alt+164 directly in Sky; that always works for me. 

I got so tired of searching through the character map in Sky that I searched up a table of ASCII codes and printed my own little table of the ones I use most often. It's easier to just glance at my little cheat sheet and type alt+whatever than to open up the character map every time. 

Sincerely,

Amanda Rodgers

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[Siusan Moffat]

Yes I just copied and pasted into my email :) It will not copy and paste correctly in the word doc or Sky. Is it perhaps because it's in italics? I cannot say... I could not find in character map :(

Siusan

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[Siusan Moffat]

Hi,

Unfortunately, the alt+164 doesn't work either (neither Sky nor Word). I am using Margaret's Macros, turned that off and that didn't make a difference either.

Great idea about the printed table. That would probably help me. Thanks :)

Siusan

[Amanda Rodgers]

Could it have something to do with your font? I just opened the character map in Sky 8 and found it right away (screenshot attached with ñ circled). 

If all else fails, can you copy and paste it from the text? Sometimes I get PDFs with wonky formatting where the diacritics don't copy over but it usually works. 

Sincerely,

Amanda Rodgers

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[Siusan Moffat]

So what ended up working for me was to search for "164" (I didn't even realize you could search the character map. Although searching for "n" - in many configurations - didn't work at all.)

Thanks everyone!

Siusan

[Judi Gibbs]

Which is why dropping the translation table from SKY 8 was a bad idea. There are some diacritics that do NOT work in SKY 8. Tlingit and Himalayan diacritics are among them.

I understand Kamm is working on SKY 9. I’ve e-mailed him that he needs to re-incorporate the translation table. I also made some other suggestions.

 

He was not receptive to any of them.

 

~Judi

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[AElfwine Mischler]

Judi, there is a Translation Manager in Sky 8. I’m using it on my current index because the diacritics copy as weird symbols (e.g. ¥ is ā, the registered trademark [circled R] is Ā). I used the Character Map and Unicode values to get the characters I wanted, then put them into the Translation Manager. It works fine.

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[Heather Pendley]

Try alt+164

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[Judi Gibbs]

I did not know that. Was it there when SKY 8 first came out?

~Judi

 

[AElfwine Mischler]

That I do not know. I didn't use Sky 8 when it first came out.

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[Deborah Patton]

At the bottom of the v8 Character map on the left is a check box for 'Advanced View' which I could not live without. The bottom line of the advanced view is 'Search for' which I use to paste characters from pdfs that don't paste into the grid. Then I click on search and it just about always finds the one I need. I can't recall a time when it didn't. Then it's the usual of Select that character and copy it to paste it into the grid.

And yes there's always been a translation table in the v8, but I use it for everything but unicode characters. I agree with AElfwine that using it for Arabic or other non-Western characters may work around a lot of hassles. I think I use it most to translate a carat (^) for a comma when I have multiple notes in locators.
Deborah

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[mjhw...@gmail.com]

To type a letter n with a tilde, press Ctrl+Shift+~, n: hold down the Control and Shift keys and press the ~ key (top left of your keyboard), then let go and press the letter n (don't do it too fast). Almost all the foreign language shortcuts used in Word also work in SKY: to find a list google "shortcuts for accents in Word"" or type "language accent marks" in the Help search bar at the top of a Word window.

You can also type the Unicode for the character, in this case 00F1, and then press Alt+x.

Both these  methods also work in the Translation Manager.

Michael