sorting and grouping on locators with Roman numerals

[technica...@gmail.com]

Hi everyone:  I'm using Sky 8, and I'm indexing a book where the preface is numbered from iii-xxiii, and the remainder of the book is numbered 1-159.

When I view the index in page number order, pages iii-xxiii come first, next are the entries with no locator, and last are the entries numbered 1-159.  This is mostly correct, because all the Roman numerals come before all the arabic numerals, but it seems to me the blank locators should come first.

The bigger problem comes when I group by locator.  If I group on iii-xxiii, to see all the entries for the preface, I get all the entries numbered iii-xxiii plus the entries numbered 3-23. If I group on 1-27 to see the entries for chapter 1, I get the entries numbered 1-27 plus all the entries for iii-xxiii.  

Is there a setting that will fix this -- treating all Roman numerals as coming before all arabic numerals in grouping?  Or should I report this as a bug?

Thank you very much!

Angela Howard

[Deborah Patton]

Oh right, sorry. Since your index isn't following the proper sorting rules it needs to be shaken up (so to speak). Try both of these: first Index>Resort and let it work. Then, for good measure, View>Refresh. Sometimes repeated switching views also helps -- Shift+F5, Shift+F8, Shift+F7.

I haven't had a chance to test why your Roman numerals are being conflated with Arabic ones for grouping, but I probably can at some point today unless someone else beats me to it.

Deborah

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On Friday, December 24th, 2021 at 11:05 PM, Angela Howard <technica...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have Options>Index>Sorting, and the "Sort Roman numerals" box is checked there. But there is no "Sort Roman numerals" box under Options>Index>Locators.

Angela Howard
Technical Indexing Services
ASI PNW Chapter Treasurer
technica...@gmail.com

On 12/24/2021 6:15 PM, Deborah Patton wrote:

First, do you have Options>index>locators, then in the middle of the screen -- is the box 'Sort Roman numerals' checked?? Sky isn't recognizing the Roman numerals and I think this does it.

I don't think you have a bug since Roman numerals do what they should for me and I keep that box checked.

Please let us know if checking that box doesn't solve your problem,

Deborah

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[Deborah Patton]

As to your grouping by locator -- you're right that Sky lumps equivalent values whether Roman or Arabic numbers but I don't think this is something that will be fixed. What I do when this happens is to take the result that has both of them and put that in locator order (Alt+Shift+F7), then I highlight the first one of the group I want, hold down the shift key and arrow down or otherwise navigate to the last one still holding the shift key and highlight the last one which will select that entire group. Now press Shift+F6 and you've got the group you need.

You can also PageDown or drag the slider in the scroll bar with your mouse to get to the end of the group.

Deborah

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On Friday, December 24th, 2021 at 6:50 PM, technica...@gmail.com <technica...@gmail.com> wrote: