Sky 8 -- Word won't produce the Unicode diacritics

[AElfwine Mischler]

I completed an index in Sky 8 on Windows 11. There were a few terms with diacritics, and since the designer hadn't used Unicode characters, I had to use the Translation Manager to get the three characters I needed: t with a dot under it, a with a macron, and i with a macron.

Translation Manager worked as it should; in the Index Pane the characters appeared as they should. But when I generated the index, Word did not translate them. Instead I had {t.}, {a-}, and {i-}. 

I thought that the problem might be in Word on the new (Win 11) laptop, so I emailed the Sky file to myself and generated the index on my old Win 10 laptop. The same problem! I don't think I've ever had this happen before.

Fortunately there were only a few terms with this problem, so I copied and pasted the characters from Sky's Character Map into my index. (I could have done this in the first place, but I find it faster to just type in a code and use the Translation Manager when there's only a few such terms.) I had to get the index to the client today.

The problem seems to be in Word rather than Sky, but I have no idea what has happened. Some stupid update in Office 365? I've got eye strain right now, so I can't begin to look for an answer. Does someone more tech-savvy know what's going on??

Thanks.

 

Ælfwine Mischler

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[Shmuel Gerber]

I don't think it is possible for this to be a problem with Word, because Word does not have access to the original data in SKY. Translations occur within SKY during the index-generating process. 

An older version of the SKY manual says that translations only work if the document output format is RTF. 

What version of SKY are you using? (Help --> About)

And what is the output format of the index? (Options --> Document --> Output Format)

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[AElfwine Mischler]

Thanks, Shmuel, I'll check that when I'm on the computer tomorrow. I'm pretty sure it was in RTF format, but I could be wrong. 

Ælfwine Mischler

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[Ruth Ellis]

I'm assuming you are using a unicode compliant font for your heading styles? If you are, it doesn't matter what the designer used in the text, because you are unlikely to be outputting from SKY in the same font (too many book fonts are not installed on a PC and I'm not paying for extra fonts). I output in Arial regardless of the book style. It's unicode compliant and everyone has it. so you shouldn't need to use translation, you just need to find the unicode character it the character map and use that in your entry. Even if you want to stick with translations, you still need to make sure your output is unicode compliant so that it can actually do the translation correctly.

Ruth