Harbin
Vincent
发送时间: 2007年10月24日 3:48
收件人: Rachel Heng
抄送: Vincent
主题: Re: Beijing Trip - 25th Noc to 2 Dec
Dear Rachel,
Well, i got a fansy Chinse name, 毓琇..haha. Malaysian friend call me
Siew Fong and my china friends/new friends call me this fancy chinese
name!
There are many different combinations and possibilities, may be we
start with something then go down to more details planning
-2days in Harbin include the Snow and Ice Sculptures. normally start
from 25 Dec to Feb.
-1days in Ski resort
-1 day Mt. Changbaishan in Jili and hot spring
-1day in Jilin - mostly to see the China's natural wonders, the
frosted willows. Normally in Jan and very much depends on luck and the
weather.
The above may take 6 days or 7 days depends on the mode of travelling.
Rough estimation may be able to make it to around 1000RM for
accomodation and 10 seaters van with driver.
If you think the above trip is suitable for Malaysia's market then let
me know, will do the detail itenery, accomodation,
transportation/train, find out the ticket price for entraces, and may
be also find some service to hire winter jacket for the whole journy
(its extremely cold about -28 when i was there last Chinese New Year,
need special boots and good down jackets).
Regards
Yu Siew
On 10/23/07, Rachel Heng <rachel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Yu Siew,
>
> Nice to meet you! Anyway, are you Siew Fong? Vincent mentioned to me is
> Siew Fong not Yu Siew...please correct me if I'm wrong :-)
>
> I'm not sure whether you have log in our website or not...Please log in
www.
> yongo.biz to have better understanding on our YONGO's Style..
>
> If you are adventurous traveler, then you are the right person we are
> looking for! :-) Oh so envy that you were in Europe for a month! I wish I
> can do that in future.
>
> Well, we are intend to 'explore' more the beauty of the china recently.
> Personally I found China is so 'lucky' for rich with natural beauty
> everywhere which we can't find in M'sia and also intend to 'open' m'sian
> traveler eyes to see 'real' china and really feel the 'true' of the
> traveling, not 走马看花...
>
> I'had a tought to do more on urban china (indeed not big cities like
Beijing
> or Shanghai unless request by a group). I'm thinking to do Tibet cross in
> Nepal, Daocheng Yading (supposed reached on our last Aug
Jiuzhaigou-Daocheng
> but due to road closed, we unable reach), Mongolia etc.
>
> Ya, please go ahead with your planning and we can discuss from time to
time.
>
> Thanks and again nice to meet you!!
>
> Warm Regards
> Rachel
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yu Siew Soo [mailto:soo.y...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:35 AM
> To: Vincent; Rachel Heng
> Subject: Re: Beijing Trip - 25th Noc to 2 Dec
>
> Dear Vincent
> Thank you for giving me this opportunity to get involved in this
> interesting adventures travelling plans.
>
> Dear Rachel
> Vincent spoke to me regarding a trip to Harbin, I was there last
> Chinese New Year for the Snow sculpture festival, it was awesome! I
> have rough idea what you need or the yongo travelling style as myself
> is an adventure backpakers, done travelling alone in Europe for a
> month as well as Tibet for 3 weeks and others interesting places.
>
> Well, give me a couple of days to dig out some info and make the
> proposal for you, and from there we can refine it to meet the
> Malaysian's market!
>
> cheers
> Yu Siew
> 苏毓琇
>
>
>
>
> On 10/23/07, Vincent <vin...@cistg.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Rachel,
> >
> >
> >
> > Siew Fong is my ex-collegue. She is a Malaysian and staying at Beijing.
> She
> > has travel to a lot of places in China such as Harbin and Xi Zhang. We
may
> > work together, you may allocate the profit to us according to your
> > experience, you may discuss with Siew Fong directly as well. Siew Fong
> will
> > work out the plan for Harbin, Mongolia and other exciting places for
you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > 发件人: Rachel Heng [mailto:rachel...@gmail.com]
> > 发送时间: 2007年10月22日 17:59
> > 收件人: 'Vincent'
> > 主题: RE: Beijing Trip - 25th Noc to 2 Dec
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > Then plan ahead for next year…perhaps I can put the Harbin on coming
Jan?
> > if yes, need to act fast…I think this one can be 6-8 days right?! If
ok,
> I
> > will put up to web asap, you can give the rough cost and itinerary 1st..
as
> > long as up to web 1st, so that they can consider now…
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps Mongolia can be next year trip (the best month to go). You
advise
> > the itinerary and activities since you just back from there (I bought
the
> > book "Mongolia' but yet to read).
> >
> >
> >
> > Please plan according our Yongo style…no shopping, not include meals
(but
> > more choice for local cateries), but will prefer english guide.
> > Accommodation 2 to 3 star will do, the most important is hygienic and
good
> > location. Transport can be nite train (soft sleeper), or LRT or public
> bus
> > if we have very good reason (like we did a day tour at Urumqi, we use
> public
> > bus to more around. Why? B'coz group can be decide when to leave if
they
> > are not interested to stay longer at museum and want to hang around more
> at
> > local market).
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, some light adventurous..u can find out that we do cycling,
trekking
> or
> > staying in Yurt (like Mongolia yurt) which other regular tour won't do
> that.
> > We must do something 'different' to 'attract' why they wan to join Yongo
> > instead of others travel agency…
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Vincent [mailto:vin...@cistg.net]
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 5:28 PM
> > To: 'Rachel Heng'
> > Subject: 答复: Beijing Trip - 25th Noc to 2 Dec
> >
> >
> >
> > I am very keen for Harbin and Mongolia group, I believe that I am able
to
> > help to arrange such group.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > 发件人: Rachel Heng [mailto:rachel...@gmail.com]
> > 发送时间: 2007年10月21日 16:35
> > 收件人: 'Vincent'
> > 主题: Beijing Trip - 25th Noc to 2 Dec
> >
> >
> >
> > HI Wei Cheng,
> >
> >
> >
> > Group just changed the date to Beijing from 25th Nov to 2 Dec but yet to
> > confirm by the MAS (whether got seat or not). Anyway, will get back to
> you
> > once confirmed
> >
> >
> >
> > Btw, even I'm not too sure whether our "1st" Beijing trip will be going
> well
> > or not, but I believe with we our 'passion' and 'sincerity', it will be
> > work! I'm thinking if ok, we can organize more trips to Beijing in
future
> > but will follow our 'Yongo' style which is more adventurous and
different!
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers and very much appreciate your 'sincerity' for Beijing trip
> > arrangement! Hope the group is not so 'fussy' and 'difficult' to
handle.
> >
> >
> >
> > Btw, I'm also thinking want to organize a trip to "Harbin', Mongolia
etc,
> do
> > you interested to 'involve' as I know you are quite busy with your
current
> > business.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again and have a wonderful weekend! J
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Jin Jiao
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Vincent
发件人: Rachel Heng
[mailto:rachel...@gmail.com]
发送时间: 2007年10月24日
23:10
收件人: 'Yu Siew Soo'
抄送: 'Vincent'
主题: Emailing: HAR08CHN
Hi Yu Siew,
Forwarded one of the itinerary organized by Apple Vacation for your reference/comparison. Well, this is the commercial tour and I wondering can we do some of the activities or program which is ‘unique’ and ‘different’?! Of course Yongo Travel one of the attractive is “NO shopping tour” and as you see our motto for Yongo is “Near or Far, We go further”… Before we can push out the itinerary, I have to ensure what is our ‘selling points’.
Thanks again for your quick response.
Cheers
Rachel
Vincent
收件人: 'Yu Siew Soo'
抄送: 'Vincent'
Hi Yu Siew,
Thanks your effort for organizing Harbin Trip.
Well, We do all the option you had mentioned and it depends on the
situation. In this case, I personally think that the best way to do is,
1st- plan the itinerary (since you had been there and know what is the
'best' for the travelers) (you also can get few local travel agent to quote
and from there you know what is the best price they offered, itinerary as
ref etc).
2nd - Do some survey/research on hotel and get the quotation (if more
people, the bargain power is more)
3rd - To get cheaper transportation is thru those driver who owned his
transport; get the charges for 15 seater, 22 seaters, 33 seaters and so
on...
4th - Get Freelancer Guide or you yourself if you have confidence to do it.
Normally English speaking guide is more higher than Chinese speaking and
they will charge higher if non shopping tour.
The most important to act now is come out the itinerary 1st, and then buses
& hotel rate. I will check the flight details from my side.
Thanks again and we can discuss from time to time.
Cheers
Rachel
-----Original Message-----
From: Yu Siew Soo [mailto:soo.y...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:40 AM
To: Rachel Heng
Cc: Vincent
Subject: Re: Emailing: HAR08CHN
Rachel
I have done some research on the harbin trip. as this is my first
time in organising such trip i would like to get some advises from you
how to proceed
i can draw up the intenary, of course with no shopping (because i hate
that too!) but i would like to know how yongo normally proceed with
such arrangement like
1. cooperate with a registered tour operator with tour guide, give
them the itenary and work with them on getting accomodation and
bus/van
2. engage independent operator example those private MPV driver cum
tour guide with accomodation arranged too.
3. arrange the accomodation ourself, engage just a driver.
I guess option 3 will be the cheapest and option 1 being the safest as
it will have the standard tour operator's license/insurance/etc
let me know so we can see how to proceed to next step
regards
yu siew
which option normally yongo does
On 10/25/07, Rachel Heng <rachel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Yu Siew,
>
>
>
> Forwarded one of the itinerary organized by Apple Vacation for your
> reference/comparison. Well, this is the commercial tour and I wondering
can
> we do some of the activities or program which is 'unique' and
'different'?!
> Of course Yongo Travel one of the attractive is "NO shopping tour" and as
> you see our motto for Yongo is "Near or Far, We go further". Before we can
Vincent
发送时间: 2007年10月29日 17:45
收件人: Rachel Heng
抄送: Vincent
Resend in pdf format in case you dont have open office.
when do you plan to sell this tour as the price is different
especially during chinese new year.
On 10/30/07, Yu Siew Soo <soo.y...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Rachel
>
> I have made the first draft of the itenary, it seems a lot to cramp in
> and time in travelling from one place to the other. Well, this cant be
> avoid as China is huge!! Please review and see you have anything to
> add in/remove.
>
> I am contacting some private and tour operators to refine the
> itenary/transportation/accomodation/etc.
>
> Will keep you update with the progress.
>
> Ys