helm trimming rule

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Jackie

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May 8, 2016, 3:36:45 AM5/8/16
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Hi all

Can anyone clarify if the Skud helm is allowed under class rules to trim any lines?

This was allowed in Beijing where Nick Scandone could release the vang, however the class rules have been rewritten since then and anything that is not in those rules is illegal (my understanding).

I can't find any references to this in class rules, Skud technical committee minutes or elsewhere. It would be great if teams could, coming up to Rio, have access to 'additional provisions as specified by IFDS'.

J.4. IFDS Two Person - SKUD 18.2. Two crew both in centreline seats, with additional provisions specified by IFDS.

The only reference to popping battens specifies that the crew should do it C.1.1.(c).

Please respond!

Thanks

Jackie 


Steve Cranch

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May 8, 2016, 5:52:24 AM5/8/16
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Jackie, Its not part of the class rules but it used to be in the IFDS sailing manual as per this below….
  1. 5.2  In the Paralympic two-person keelboat event where the SKUD18 is the designated equipment.

(a) At least one crewmember shall be female, and at least one crew member shall meet the classification criteria for TPA. These two requirements may be met by the same person.


(b) One crew member shall be designated the ‘Trimmer’, and may adjust sheets, halyards and other sail control lines. All sheets, halyards and other control lines shall be led to the Trimmer’s position except as permitted in 5.4(c) below. The Trimmer shall not steer the boat while racing.


(c) One crew member, classified as TPA, shall be designated the ‘Helmsperson’, and shall steer the boat all times while racing. Only one sail control line, which shall not include

sheets, the spinnaker halyard or the spinnaker retrieval line, may be led to the Helmsperson’s position.


(d) Where centreline seating is specified, in accordance with SKUD Class Rules, the Helmsperson shall occupy the aft seat and the steering mechanism shall be accessible

and operable only from that position.


(e) Upon written permission granted by the Event Measurer and the Event Classifiers, a crew member classified as TPA, and sailing with a crew member classified as TPB,

may be designated the Trimmer. This does not change the permitted activities of the Helmsperson and the Trimmer as described in 5.2(a) and 5.2(b) above. 


However now ISAF have become involved and its called Para worlds something or other I can’t find it on their website, goodness knows what they have changed it to...


Kind Regards

Steve Cranch

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Rick Watters

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May 19, 2016, 2:40:24 PM5/19/16
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So one of the following can be controlled by the helms person? ... out-haul, cunning-ham,  traveler, vang,  jib/main halyard and kicker are all fair game?

Steve Cranch

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May 19, 2016, 3:40:03 PM5/19/16
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That was how it used to be written, BUT you need to try and find out what the equivalent of the IFDS sailing manual is going to be for the 2016 games and CHECK.

Sorry but its not something I was involved with as its not in the class rules

Tim Dempsey

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May 19, 2016, 5:14:25 PM5/19/16
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Hi Rick

It is my understanding that you cannot control any halyards but I may well be wrong.  As Steve says you really need to check this.

I would suggest you email Brian Todd  sai...@eastlink.ca who is the ISAF/World Sailing Delegate on the SKUD 18 committee for an answer.

Kind regards

Tim Dempsey

Rick Watters

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May 25, 2016, 3:38:24 PM5/25/16
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From: David Staley [mailto:da...@hansaclass.org]
Sent: May 20, 2016 4:48 AM
To: sku...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [skud18] helm trimming rule

 

Hi Rick

 

The updated RMM can be downloaded at http://www.sailing.org/sailors/disabled/competition.php

 

Only one sail control line, which shall not include sheets, the spinnaker halyard or the spinnaker retrieval line, may be led to the Helmsperson’s position. So that mean’s one of the cunningham, vang, outhaul, main halyard or jib halyard can be controlled by the helm when the World Sailing Race Management Manual applies.

 

6.2 In the Two-Person Keelboat event where the SKUD18 is the designated equipment:

(a) At least one crewmember shall be female, and at least one crew member shall meet the classification criteria for TPA. These two requirements may be met by the same person.

(b) One crew member shall be designated the ‘Trimmer’, and may adjust sheets, halyards and other sail control lines. All sheets, halyards and other control lines shall be led to the Trimmer’s position except as permitted in 5.2 (c) below. The Trimmer shall not steer the boat while racing.

(c) One crew member, classified as TPA, shall be designated the ‘Helmsperson’, and shall steer the boat at all times while racing. Only one sail control line, which shall not include sheets, the spinnaker halyard or the spinnaker retrieval line, may be led to the Helmsperson’s position.

(d) Where centreline seating is specified, in accordance with SKUD18 Class Rules, the Helmsperson shall occupy the aft seat and the steering mechanism shall be accessible and operable only from that position.

(e) Upon written permission granted by the Event Measurer and the Event Classifiers, a crew member classified as TPA, and sailing with a crew member classified as TPB, may be designated the Trimmer. This does not change the permitted activities of the Helmsperson and the Trimmer as described in 5.2(a) and 5.2(b) above.

 

The following applies for Level 1 Events:

(a) SKUD18 helm and crew must be safely secured to their seats at all times while racing, by appropriate restraints.

(b) At their loosest adjustment, the restraints must keep the crew seated and within 10 centimetres of the seat backrest (including any back cushion which shall not be removed after measurement) at the measurement point described below at all times and in any crew position. If using a single restraint, the restraint shall cross the pelvic area of the sailor. This means that the measurement shall take place in full sailing outfit (foul weather gear, Personal Flotation Device (PFD) and all other needs for safety).

(c) The measurement point is located in the mid-plane of the back rest, 10cm above the sitting surface.

(d) Restraints must be sufficiently robust to prevent accidental release in case of capsize.

(e) Each and every release mechanism must be identified with bright red or yellow tag for ease of identification in case of emergency.

(f) After seating measurement is completed, both the Helmsperson and Crew must sign a measurement declaration document verifying compliance with Rule 6.2.

(g) Amendments to Class Rules regarding Movement of the Crew within the Boat may be made in the Notice of Race and Sailing Instructions for individual events, but only with the consent of the Class.

(h) When approved by the Classification Committee, a closed radio transmission system designed to amplify and enhance communications between the helmsperson and crew may be used. Such a system shall be Bluetooth or similar very short range radio system.

 

Hope this helps

 

David Staley

Secretary

International Hansa Class Association

Email: da...@hansaclass.org

Mobile: +61 (0) 428 514 058

IHCA Website: www.hansaclass.org

SKUD 18 Website: www.skud.org

 

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