SKUA desc
Linde, A.E.
The SKUA project, 'Semantic Knowledge Underpinning Astronomy’, will create a distributed architecture of semantically aware RDF stores. (1) This ‘semantic layer’ may be accessed directly by a user in finding and recovering relevant resources, or may be embedded within user-facing applications. Although the system we build will be specialized to astronomy, and proved by its interaction with, and eventual embedding within, the Virtual Observatory, the bulk of the semantic knowledge is localized in the RDF store. (2) This reflects the core design goal that the semantic knowledge could be replaced if desired by the analogous semantic knowledge of a different domain.
- how is the semantic awareness of the RDF stores realised?
- if only the bulk of the semantic knowledge is in the store, where is the rest?
- there is no mention of federation: isn’t that what SKUA is really about?
I think we need a better, more complete (but no more wordy: the above just fits) description.
I’ve had bu**er-all sleep since getting here on Friday so am off to bed. I’ll think more on it during the less interesting parts of tomorrow’s workshop but any other suggestions welcomed.
Cheers,
Tony.
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Tony Linde
Project Manager
Department of Physics & Astronomy
University of Leicester
Kona Andrews
> I'm having trouble with the description of SKUA in my poster. The current text, copied from Norman's JISC poster, trimmed to fit and then with Kona's suggestions for rewording now looks like:
>
> The SKUA project, 'Semantic Knowledge Underpinning Astronomy', will create a distributed architecture of semantically aware RDF stores. (1) This 'semantic layer' may be accessed directly by a user in finding and recovering relevant resources, or may be embedded within user-facing applications. Although the system we build will be specialized to astronomy, and proved by its interaction with, and eventual embedding within, the Virtual Observatory, the bulk of the semantic knowledge is localized in the RDF store. (2) This reflects the core design goal that the semantic knowledge could be replaced if desired by the analogous semantic knowledge of a different domain.
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> 2. if only the bulk of the semantic knowledge is in the store, where is the rest?
> 3. there is no mention of federation: isn't that what SKUA is really about?
>
> I think we need a better, more complete (but no more wordy: the above just fits) description.
>
"semantically aware" to "semantically-aware, knowledge-sharing" (to
address point 3?)
You might simplify further:
Although the system we build will be specialised to astronomy, and
developed [deployed? tested?] within in the context of the Virtual
Observatory, the bulk of the semantic knowledge [etc]
K.
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Kona Andrews k...@roe.ac.uk
AstroGrid Project http://www.astrogrid.org
IfA, Royal Observatory, Blackford Hill, Edinburgh EH9 3HJ
Linde, A.E.
The description now reads:
The UK JISC-funded SKUA project, 'Semantic Knowledge Underpinning Astronomy’, will create a distributed architecture of semantically aware RDF stores. Each store will be populated by users with claims about entities in astronomy research and may include supporting knowledge-bases such as ontologies and controlled vocabularies. SKUA will make it possible to federate these stores such that queries against one will be propagated to a wide range of other stores: federation will be subject to security constraints set by store owners. Although the system and trial applications we build will be specialised to astronomy, the architecture will be applicable to all other knowledge domains.
Comments? Ok to go with this?
Cheers,
Tony.
On 27/10/2008 14:44, "Kona Andrews" <k...@roe.ac.uk> wrote:
Although the system we build will be specialised to astronomy, and
developed [deployed? tested?] within in the context of the Virtual
Observatory, the bulk of the semantic knowledge [etc]
Norman Gray
Tony, hello.
On 2008 Oct 28, at 12:01, Linde, A.E. wrote:
> The UK JISC-funded SKUA project, 'Semantic Knowledge Underpinning
> Astronomy', will create a distributed architecture of semantically
> aware RDF stores. Each store will be populated by users with claims
> about entities in astronomy research and may include supporting
> knowledge-bases such as ontologies and controlled vocabularies. SKUA
> will make it possible to federate these stores such that queries
> against one will be propagated to a wide range of other stores:
> federation will be subject to security constraints set by store
> owners. Although the system and trial applications we build will be
> specialised to astronomy, the architecture will be applicable to all
> other knowledge domains.
That looks great. Is that better than the current website text in web/www.myskua.org/index.html
, do you think?
Sorry I've been a bit slow to respond -- it's turning out to be a
quite busy interop.
See you,
Norman
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Norman Gray : http://nxg.me.uk
Dept Physics and Astronomy, University of Leicester
Linde, A.E.
Does the rest of the poster look ok? I’ll try to get it printed on the Saturday before adass.
T.
Norman Gray
Tony,
On 2008 Oct 29, at 18:56, Linde, A.E. wrote:
> I'll take a look at the site when I get back
I meant that this description is probably more polished than the
description currently in the website tree of the repository, and
perhaps this should replace it.
> Does the rest of the poster look ok?
It looks good to me. Thinking specifically of the questions you
raised (for conversations at poster time):
> 1. how is the semantic awareness of the RDF stores realised?
Possibly as simply as having the knowledge of some relevant
vocabularies built in, so that you can make a SPARQL query involving
skos:broader without having to upload the vocabulary yourself. Hmm:
or perhaps the SKUA node could do that retrievel for itself,
proactively...
There's probably more we could do, but that would be something.
> 2. if only the bulk of the semantic knowledge is in the store,
> where is the rest?
Did we say 'bulk'? I think that would be most of it.
> 3. there is no mention of federation: isn't that what SKUA is
> really about?
Well, federation and the light semantic knowledge. I suppose part of
the claim is that even a little knowledge goes a long way, but perhaps
just having a few vocabularies knocking about would be a little more
lightweight than would be desirable.
In case it's useful, I've put the current version of my SKUA talk for
the interop at <http://nxg.me.uk/temp/skua-interop.pdf>. This will be
much the same as the ADASS version, and I'll put that in the
repository after I give the interop version tomorrow.
Linde, A.E.
#4: we’re only funded to end June’09 aren’t we, not end of 2009
I agree with the comment on #5 that our audience is ‘application programmers’: it certainly better not be clapped out old project managers :)
#8: don’t know if you want to mention (maybe in subpoint) that Kevin has a working version of Taverna that handles astronomical workflows and they are handled by myExperiment with no problem
Ah well, back to the dreaded javascript – and to think I used to be an expert!
T.
Norman Gray
Tony,
On 2008 Oct 29, at 19:22, Linde, A.E. wrote:
> #4: we're only funded to end June'09 aren't we, not end of 2009
Ooops. Fixed.
> #8: don't know if you want to mention (maybe in subpoint) that Kevin
> has a working version of Taverna that handles astronomical workflows
> and they are handled by myExperiment with no problem
Done.