Spam Karma 2.4-alpha

[Stephen Rider]

A few items:

1. Nice integration, but in terms of interface, I think it's better
to go with:

Run selected entries through [all Spam Karma plugins] (Apply)

rather than

(Run selected entries) through [all Spam Karma plugins]

() = button and [] = dropdown

2. If you're not, you might all want to pay attention to the "Auto
Update Plugins" thread on the wp-hackers list. Working on
standardizing a location for plugin-related data that (such as sub-
plugins). In the case of Spam Karma, I think the standard SK plugins
would go where they are right now, but it would also search the
"secondary" location for third-party plugins.

3. I think we should remove the RBL plugin from core SK, and add the
Akismet SK plugin

Stephen

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[Austin Matzko]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Stephen Rider
<wp-ha...@striderweb.com> wrote:
> 1. Nice integration, but in terms of interface, I think it's better
> to go with:
>
> Run selected entries through [all Spam Karma plugins] (Apply)
>
> rather than
>
> (Run selected entries) through [all Spam Karma plugins]
>
> () = button and [] = dropdown

That does make more sense. I just copied the existing markup and
wasn't happy about it.

> 2. If you're not, you might all want to pay attention to the "Auto
> Update Plugins" thread on the wp-hackers list. Working on
> standardizing a location for plugin-related data that (such as sub-
> plugins). In the case of Spam Karma, I think the standard SK plugins
> would go where they are right now, but it would also search the
> "secondary" location for third-party plugins.

I don't see great harm to doing this, but I don't understand why it's
necessary. Why can't 3rd-party SK plugins just be regular WordPress
plugins? If a 3rd-party SK plugin is a WordPress plugin, it can be
installed using the WP plugin installer. If it's just a file to be
put in the proposed plugin data directory, then people have to fire up
their FTP client, adding unnecessary difficulty.

I think all we need to do is add an action hook at the point when we
load SK plugins, and 3rd-party plugins can attach a callback to that
to instantiate their classes.

> 3. I think we should remove the RBL plugin from core SK, and add the
> Akismet SK plugin

Is there another RBL site we could use to replace blbl.org, the one in
the RBL plugin?

I think adding SK plugins is great, so long as it's okay with their
authors and their licenses. Do we know how the Akismet one is
licensed?

Austin

[Stephen Rider]

On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Austin Matzko wrote:

>> 2. If you're not, you might all want to pay attention to the "Auto

>> Update Plugins" thread on the wp-hackers list.[...]

>
> I don't see great harm to doing this, but I don't understand why it's
> necessary. Why can't 3rd-party SK plugins just be regular WordPress
> plugins? If a 3rd-party SK plugin is a WordPress plugin, it can be
> installed using the WP plugin installer. If it's just a file to be
> put in the proposed plugin data directory, then people have to fire up
> their FTP client, adding unnecessary difficulty.

I suppose it can be an either/or approach as well. My FTP is drag-and-
drop, so FTPing a file is virtually nothing to me -- as opposed to
going through an annoying, slow web interface.

Spam Karma can go either way. Down the road I like the concept of
"sub plugins" within WordPress -- e.g. plugins that don't even load
unless the "master" plugin is activated, and that appear in a
hierarchy within the Manage Plugins page. ;-)

>> 3. I think we should remove the RBL plugin from core SK, and add the
>> Akismet SK plugin
>
> Is there another RBL site we could use to replace blbl.org, the one in
> the RBL plugin?

Don't know much about it. I just know it hasn't worked in years....

> I think adding SK plugins is great, so long as it's okay with their
> authors and their licenses. Do we know how the Akismet one is
> licensed?

The top of the file says:

> (c) 2006 Sebastian Herp and HEAVILY based on the original akismet
> plugin (Matt Mullenweg)

As I'm pretty sure the original Akismet is GPL2, I think this one is
too, by definition. :) Still, doesn't hurt to ask the original
author. I'll drop him a line.

Regards,

[Xavier Borderie]

Another bug that might warrant inspection:
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bad-behavior/other_notes/
"When using Bad Behavior in conjunction with Spam Karma 2, you may see
PHP warnings when Spam Karma 2 displays its internally generated
CAPTCHA. This is a design problem in Spam Karma 2. Contact the author
of Spam Karma 2 for a fix."

(can't create ticket in googlecode, no love for my account)