Re: School shooting in Canada.ban guns

[Byker]

"Gy" wrote in message
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>
> Canadians should turn in their guns

Now watch shotguns be added to list of "restricted" firearms (handguns,
semi-automatic rifles, etc.)...

[Dave Smith]

Since the shooter is 17 he will be out of jail before you can blink, and
his juvenile record will be cleared Heaven forbid they apply any of the
existing laws against him. Instead of dealing with the violent
criminal they will more likely enact more laws to hassle law abiding
citizens.

[StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL]

Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police until
they started shooing.

If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.

If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will you
still still say that brand of TV is safe?

[David Johnston]

Not in the real world. There's too much money in hunting.

[Scout]

"StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL" <Kg...@rIwxS.com> wrote in message
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More like 99.99999%.

or less than one in 100,000

Is that safe enough?

Particularly considering some were indeed known by police.

[M.I.Wakefield]

"StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL" wrote in message
news:KMWoy.675366$5%6.44...@fx21.fr7...

> Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police until
> they started shooing.
>
> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will you
> still still say that brand of TV is safe?

In 2012, the gun homicide rate in Canada was 0.49 per 100,000, and about 46%
of that amount was gang-related ... they're not using legal guns ...
assuming every other gun homicide was committed with a legal weapon, you're
70% more likely to be stabbed to death, and 16% more likely to be beaten to
death, than you are to be killed with a legal gun in Canada.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:36:24 -0500, StEWU???????? ? ?????????IdfiL
<Kg...@rIwxS.com> wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote on 23/01/2016 20:35:
>> On 2016-01-23 8:07 PM, Byker wrote:
>>> "Gy" wrote in message
>>> news:8c3ce020-d6fe-4c75...@googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Canadians should turn in their guns
>>>
>>> Now watch shotguns be added to list of "restricted" firearms (handguns,
>>> semi-automatic rifles, etc.)...
>>
>>
>> Since the shooter is 17 he will be out of jail before you can blink, and
>> his juvenile record will be cleared Heaven forbid they apply any of the
>> existing laws against him. Instead of dealing with the violent
>> criminal they will more likely enact more laws to hassle law abiding
>> citizens.
>
>Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens

"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
-Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP

[vGouI⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄dwFeg]

Scout wrote on 24/01/2016 00:42:
>
>
> "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL" <Kg...@rIwxS.com> wrote in
> message news:KMWoy.675366$5%6.44...@fx21.fr7...
>> Dave Smith wrote on 23/01/2016 20:35:
>>> On 2016-01-23 8:07 PM, Byker wrote:
>>>> "Gy" wrote in message
>>>> news:8c3ce020-d6fe-4c75...@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Canadians should turn in their guns
>>>>
>>>> Now watch shotguns be added to list of "restricted" firearms (handguns,
>>>> semi-automatic rifles, etc.)...
>>>
>>>
>>> Since the shooter is 17 he will be out of jail before you can blink, and
>>> his juvenile record will be cleared Heaven forbid they apply any of the
>>> existing laws against him. Instead of dealing with the violent
>>> criminal they will more likely enact more laws to hassle law abiding
>>> citizens.
>>

>> Most mass shooters were law abiding citizens and unknown to police until
>> they started shooting.

>>
>> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
>>
>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will
>> you still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>
> More like 99.99999%.
>
> or less than one in 100,000

Do you even know how to use a calculator? You've got such simple math
wrong. You apparently are not competent enough to comment on anything.

I will give you the correct answer if you cannot figure out your mistake.

>
> Is that safe enough?

No.

>
> Particularly considering some were indeed known by police.

"Some" is the exception. Most of the shooters were unknown to police,
and most of the guns were legally purchased by the shooter or someone else.

Educate yourself here. I only have time to go through the beginning part
of the list. Most of the guns used were either legally owned by the
shooter or taken from a legal owner:

MASS SHOOTINGS SINCE JANUARY 20, 2009
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2013/02/mass_shootings_2009-13_-_jan_29_12pm1.pdf>

Albuquerque, NM, 1/19/13
Gun acquired: The guns had been legally purchased by his parents.

Newtown, CT (Sandy Hook Elementary School), 12/14/12
Gun acquired: The guns were legally registered to Lanz
a’s mother, who he shot and
killed earlier in the day and with whom he lived.

Minneapolis, MN, 9/27/12
Gun acquired: Engeldinger purchased the gun used in the shooting one
year before at KGS Guns and Ammo in Minneapolis after passing a
background check and obtaining a permit to purchase. Around the same
time, Engeldinger purchased another, similar handgun that police
recovered when searching his home.

Oak Creek, WI, 8/5/12
Gun acquired: Page acquired the gun at a local gun shop a week before
the shooting.

Aurora, Co, 7/20/12
Gun acquired: Holmes acquired the guns at local gun shops.

Newton Falls, OH, 7/6/12
Gun acquired: Unknown

Seattle, WA, 5/20/12
Gun acquired: Stawicki legally purchased the weapon used in the shooting
in addition to
two others.

Oakland, CA (Oikos University), 4/2/12
Gun acquired: The gun was purchased legally in California two months
before the
shooting.

Chardon, OH (Chardon High School), 2/27/12
Gun acquired: Reportedly stolen from his uncle, who legally purchased it.

Norcross, GA, 2/22/12
Gun acquired: Police reported that he acquired the gun legally.

Seal Beach, CA, 10/12/11
Gun acquired: All three guns were purchased legally and registered in
accordance with
California law.

Carson City, NV (IHOP Shooting), 9/6/2011
Gun acquired: Five years earlier, the gun had been sold by a private
party in California
to an unknown buyer.

......... Read the rest for yourself.

[EvlPG⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛gvPsH]

What is a legal gun? A legal gun is a gun legally purchased by the gun
buyer.

Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns legally
themselves in the US or took them from someone who legally purchased
those guns.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:04:18 -0500, EvlPG?? ?????? ? ??????? ??gvPsH
<uF...@ZycsY.com> wrote:

>What is a legal gun? A legal gun is a gun legally purchased by the gun
>buyer.

Wrong. There is no such thing as an "illegal gun."

That's leftist-manufactured bullshit.

>Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns legally
>themselves in the US or took them from someone who legally purchased
>those guns.

See? Wannabe is not as stupid as everyone says.

[Rilic⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛QoiPg]

Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 24/01/2016 08:49:
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:36:24 -0500, StEWU???????? ? ?????????IdfiL
> <Kg...@rIwxS.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote on 23/01/2016 20:35:
>>> On 2016-01-23 8:07 PM, Byker wrote:
>>>> "Gy" wrote in message
>>>> news:8c3ce020-d6fe-4c75...@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Canadians should turn in their guns
>>>>
>>>> Now watch shotguns be added to list of "restricted" firearms (handguns,
>>>> semi-automatic rifles, etc.)...
>>>
>>>
>>> Since the shooter is 17 he will be out of jail before you can blink, and
>>> his juvenile record will be cleared Heaven forbid they apply any of the
>>> existing laws against him. Instead of dealing with the violent
>>> criminal they will more likely enact more laws to hassle law abiding
>>> citizens.
>>

>> Most mass shooters were law abiding citizens
>

> "Giggle giggle giggle giggle."


That's cute, Klausie. Your Silliness, please be careful you might wet
your panties from giggling too much.

62% of mass shooters were not prohibited possessors.

Educator yourself so you won't have to mask your silliness by incessant
giggles:

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2013/02/mass_shootings_2009-13_-_jan_29_12pm1.pdf>

Role of prohibited possessors:
Certain categories of people, including felons, certain domestic abusers,
and people adjudicated mentally ill are prohibited by federal law from
possessing guns. We had sufficient evidence to judge whether the shooter
was a prohibited gun possessor in 29 of the 43 incidents (67%). Of those
29 incidents,
11 (38%) involved a prohibited possessor, and 16 (62%) did not.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:27:55 -0500, Rilic?? ?????? ? ??????? ??QoiPg
<hc...@eTuhs.com> wrote:

>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 24/01/2016 08:49:
>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:36:24 -0500, StEWU???????? ? ?????????IdfiL
>> <Kg...@rIwxS.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Smith wrote on 23/01/2016 20:35:
>>>> On 2016-01-23 8:07 PM, Byker wrote:
>>>>> "Gy" wrote in message
>>>>> news:8c3ce020-d6fe-4c75...@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Canadians should turn in their guns
>>>>>
>>>>> Now watch shotguns be added to list of "restricted" firearms (handguns,
>>>>> semi-automatic rifles, etc.)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since the shooter is 17 he will be out of jail before you can blink, and
>>>> his juvenile record will be cleared Heaven forbid they apply any of the
>>>> existing laws against him. Instead of dealing with the violent
>>>> criminal they will more likely enact more laws to hassle law abiding
>>>> citizens.
>>>
>>> Most mass shooters were law abiding citizens
>>
>> "Giggle giggle giggle giggle."
>
>
>That's cute, Klausie.

You mean your post forging?

> Your Silliness, please be careful you might wet
>your panties from giggling too much.
>
>62% of mass shooters were not prohibited possessors.

"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
-Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP

Oh wait a minute. Were you trying to make a serious argument here?

Or were you quoting a Mayors Against Illegal Guns propaganda rag just
to entertain us all?

[M.I.Wakefield]

"EvlPG⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛gvPsH" wrote in message
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> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:
> > "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL" wrote in message
> > news:KMWoy.675366$5%6.44...@fx21.fr7...
> >
> >> Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police until
> >> they started shooing.
> >>
> >> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
> >> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will
> >> you still still say that brand of TV is safe?
> >
> > In 2012, the gun homicide rate in Canada was 0.49 per 100,000, and about
> > 46% of that amount was gang-related ... they're not using legal guns ...
> > assuming every other gun homicide was committed with a legal weapon,
> > you're 70% more likely to be stabbed to death, and 16% more likely to be
> > beaten to death, than you are to be killed with a legal gun in Canada.

> What is a legal gun? A legal gun is a gun legally purchased by the gun
> buyer.

And registered when required. Virtually every gang-related killing was
committed with a gun illegally smuggled into Canada from the US. And even
then, guns are somewhat hard to get ... weapons have been used in multiple
crimes because different gangs have been sharing one gun.

The US gun homicide rate per 100,000 is 7 times higher than Canada's. The
US major assault involving a firearm rate is 9.5 times higher that Canada's.
The US robbery rate involving a firearm is 5 times higher than Canada's.

[M.I.Wakefield]

"Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message
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> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:04:18 -0500, EvlPG?? ?????? ? ??????? ??gvPsH
> <uF...@ZycsY.com> wrote:
>
> >What is a legal gun? A legal gun is a gun legally purchased by the gun
> >buyer.
>
> Wrong. There is no such thing as an "illegal gun."

In Canada, the following guns are illegal, with the exception of 37 specific
models of handgun used in sport shooting:

- any handgun with a barrel length of 105 mm or less
- any handgun that fires 25 or 32 calibre ammunition
- a rifle or shotgun modified to be shorter than 660 mm
- a rifle or shotgun modified to have a barrel shorter than 457 mm
- any automatic firearm
- any other firearm prescribed by the government

[UNbpV░ Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ░ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ ░ZDGnI]

Please excuse Klausie. Klausie has a mental capacity of a 5 year-old
girl who sleeps and giggles a lot between feedings.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:13:36 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
wrote:

No.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

That's liberal "newspeak."

I'd ask you to think about it, but I know that's beyond your
capabilities.

[chuckle]

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

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UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772F4qu34puESWRmaUw=?= <Kg...@rIwxS.com> wrote in
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Well ok then, you are comparing people to inanimate objects so...

300,000,000 number of guns in the US (approx we've batted this around some)
33,599 number of people killed with a gun all reasons 2014 WISQARS - CDC.

.0001 Percentage of firearms used to kill someone in 2014 all causes

And if we take out the suicides which we have determined to be mostly means
independent.

11,995 Homicides, legal intervention, accidents
.00004 Percentage of firearms used to kill someone in 2014 (non suicide)

If only regressives had such a low defect rate.

So, suck it.



--
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warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to
the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time,
with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."--
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[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

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Please to describe how a Canadian gangster would legally purchase a gun in
the US and transport it back to Canaduh?

You are such an ass.

[M.I.Wakefield]

"Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message

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There is in Canada.

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

A human is NOT a TV and defective humans won't be working humans because
you took away their Gun. As we have seen recently with some defective
women and even a few men they use a car and drive it into a crowd of
people. So what will you be banning next in order to mainstream that 1
in 100 into normal society?

--
That's Karma

If a marriage license *can't* tell you who you *must marry*
depending on sexual identity... how can a business license tell
you who you *Must engage in commerce with* depending on sexual
identity?

*Liberalism is unsustainable, self destructive and contradicting*

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:03:08 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
wrote:

Nope. There is no such thing.

[Unknown]

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news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:

> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:
>> "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL"
>> wrote in message news:KMWoy.675366$5%6.44...@fx21.fr7...
>>
>>> Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police
>>> until they started shooing.
>>>
>>> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
>>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will
>>> you still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>>
>> In 2012, the gun homicide rate in Canada was 0.49 per 100,000, and
>> about 46% of that amount was gang-related ... they're not using legal
>> guns ... assuming every other gun homicide was committed with a legal
>> weapon, you're 70% more likely to be stabbed to death, and 16% more
>> likely to be beaten to death, than you are to be killed with a legal
>> gun in Canada.
>
>
> What is a legal gun? A legal gun is a gun legally purchased by the gun
> buyer.

Nope. That would be a legally owned gun.

> Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns legally
> themselves in the US or took them from someone who legally purchased
> those guns.

And when they did, that gun was no longer legally owned but the gun
itself was still legal.

You wish to whine about definitions, you need to work on some of your
own.


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[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:25:47 -0600, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:

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>=?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com> wrote in
>news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>
>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>> "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗ�½?ｎｎ�½?ｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL"

>>> wrote in message news:KMWoy.675366$5%6.44...@fx21.fr7...
>>>
>>>> Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police
>>>> until they started shooing.
>>>>
>>>> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
>>>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will
>>>> you still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>>>
>>> In 2012, the gun homicide rate in Canada was 0.49 per 100,000, and
>>> about 46% of that amount was gang-related ... they're not using legal
>>> guns ... assuming every other gun homicide was committed with a legal
>>> weapon, you're 70% more likely to be stabbed to death, and 16% more
>>> likely to be beaten to death, than you are to be killed with a legal
>>> gun in Canada.
>>
>>
>> What is a legal gun? A legal gun is a gun legally purchased by the gun
>> buyer.
>
>Nope. That would be a legally owned gun.
>
>> Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns legally
>> themselves in the US or took them from someone who legally purchased
>> those guns.
>
>And when they did, that gun was no longer legally owned but the gun
>itself was still legal.

This is a real head-scratcher for these two. :)

[Unknown]

"M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com> wrote in news:n82sen$fpe$1@dont-
email.me:

There is in the US also. Turn an Mini-14 into a snubbie and see if it is
still legal.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:40:32 -0600, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:

>"M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com> wrote in news:n82sen$fpe$1@dont-
>email.me:
>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message
>> news:fir9ab13ajv737ph7...@4ax.com...
>>
>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:13:36 -0500, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> >In Canada, the following guns are illegal, with the exception of 37
>>> >specific
>>> >models of handgun used in sport shooting:
>>> >
>>> >- any handgun with a barrel length of 105 mm or less
>>> >- any handgun that fires 25 or 32 calibre ammunition
>>> >- a rifle or shotgun modified to be shorter than 660 mm
>>> >- a rifle or shotgun modified to have a barrel shorter than 457 mm
>>> >- any automatic firearm
>>> >- any other firearm prescribed by the government
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as an "illegal gun."
>>
>> There is in Canada.
>>
>>
>
>There is in the US also. Turn an Mini-14 into a snubbie and see if it is
>still legal.

Yes, it would still be legal.

Probably illegal for you to own, however.

[byWgt░ Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ░ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ ░hAtIq]

Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016 10:46:
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> =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com> wrote in
> news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>
>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>> "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ ï¼·ï½ ï½Žï½Žï½ ï½‚ï½…â«·â›„IdfiL"

>>> wrote in message news:KMWoy.675366$5%6.44...@fx21.fr7...
>>>
>>>> Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police until
>>>> they started shooing.
>>>>
>>>> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
>>>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will
>>>> you still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>>>
>>> In 2012, the gun homicide rate in Canada was 0.49 per 100,000, and
>>> about 46% of that amount was gang-related ... they're not using legal
>>> guns ... assuming every other gun homicide was committed with a legal
>>> weapon, you're 70% more likely to be stabbed to death, and 16% more
>>> likely to be beaten to death, than you are to be killed with a legal
>>> gun in Canada.
>>
>>
>> What is a legal gun? A legal gun is a gun legally purchased by the gun
>> buyer.
>>
>> Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns legally
>> themselves in the US or took them from someone who legally purchased
>> those guns.
>
> Please to describe how a Canadian gangster would legally purchase a gun in
> the US and transport it back to Canaduh?

Have you been living under a rock? Have you heard of the gun loophole in
the US. You can buy a gun in a gun show and walk off with it. Do I have
to tell you everything?

[Dave Smith]

On 2016-01-24 10:46 AM, Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote:

>> Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns legally
>> themselves in the US or took them from someone who legally purchased
>> those guns.
>
> Please to describe how a Canadian gangster would legally purchase a gun in
> the US and transport it back to Canaduh?
>
> You are such an ass.

Speaking of asses.... It doesn't take much to buy a gun in some
states. As for smuggling.... think about it.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:54:31 -0500, byWgt? ?????? ? ??????? ?hAtIq
<pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote:

>Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016 10:46:
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>> =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com> wrote in
>> news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>
>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>>> "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗ�½?ｎｎ�½?ｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL"

>>>> wrote in message news:KMWoy.675366$5%6.44...@fx21.fr7...
>>>>
>>>>> Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police until
>>>>> they started shooing.
>>>>>
>>>>> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
>>>>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will
>>>>> you still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>>>>
>>>> In 2012, the gun homicide rate in Canada was 0.49 per 100,000, and
>>>> about 46% of that amount was gang-related ... they're not using legal
>>>> guns ... assuming every other gun homicide was committed with a legal
>>>> weapon, you're 70% more likely to be stabbed to death, and 16% more
>>>> likely to be beaten to death, than you are to be killed with a legal
>>>> gun in Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>> What is a legal gun? A legal gun is a gun legally purchased by the gun
>>> buyer.
>>>
>>> Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns legally
>>> themselves in the US or took them from someone who legally purchased
>>> those guns.
>>
>> Please to describe how a Canadian gangster would legally purchase a gun in
>> the US and transport it back to Canaduh?
>
>
>Have you been living under a rock? Have you heard of the gun loophole in
>the US.

There is no "gun loophole" in the US. Anyone who actually understands
what the word "loophole" is knows this. People too stupid to
understand-- which would be brain-dead leftists like yourself-- don't
know what it means, and will continue to shriek about it.

>You can buy a gun in a gun show and walk off with it. Do I have
>to tell you everything?

That's what gun shows are for.

[Unknown]

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=?UTF-8?B?772B772C772FIOKWkWhBdElx?= <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote in
news:bl7py.220768$LO3.1...@fx15.iad:

However, you cannot legally take it to Canada without declaring it.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

So he bought it on the black market. A market which the Federal
Government will cause to swell, just like drugs.

Or, someone can describe how a Canadian gangster legally purchased a
gun in the U.S.

Repeating....

>>> Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns legally
>>> themselves in the US

Q. May a nonimmigrant alien who has been admitted to the United States
under a nonimmigrant visa and who falls within an exception, purchase
a firearm or ammunition in the United States?

A. A nonimmigrant alien without residency in any State may not
purchase and take possession of a firearm. A nonimmigrant alien may
only purchase a firearm through a licensee where the licensee arranges
to have the firearm directly exported. A nonimmigrant alien who falls
within an exception may, however, purchase and take possession of
ammunition.

A nonimmigrant alien who has established residency in a State may
purchase and take possession of a firearm from an unlicensed person,
provided the buyer and seller are residents of the same State, and no
other State or local law prohibits the transaction. A nonimmigrant
alien with residency in a State may purchase a firearm from a
licensee, provided the sale complies with all applicable laws and
regulations.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(9); 27 CFR 478.29a]

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:17:06 -0600, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:

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>=?UTF-8?B?772B772C772FIOKWkWhBdElx?= <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote in
>news:bl7py.220768$LO3.1...@fx15.iad:
>
>> Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016
>> 10:46:
>>> =?UTF-8?B?RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=
>>> ?= =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com>
>>> wrote in news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>
>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>>>> "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈï½�€?ï½™ ⸎
>>>>> ï¼·ï½Â?ｎｎï½Â?ｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL"

>>>>> wrote in message news:KMWoy.675366$5%6.44...@fx21.fr7...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police
>>>>>> until they started shooing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
>>>>>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home,
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> you still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2012, the gun homicide rate in Canada was 0.49 per 100,000, and
>>>>> about 46% of that amount was gang-related ... they're not using
>>>>> legal guns ... assuming every other gun homicide was committed with
>>>>> a legal weapon, you're 70% more likely to be stabbed to death, and
>>>>> 16% more likely to be beaten to death, than you are to be killed
>>>>> with a legal gun in Canada.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is a legal gun? A legal gun is a gun legally purchased by the
>>>> gun buyer.
>>>>
>>>> Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns
>>>> legally themselves in the US or took them from someone who legally
>>>> purchased those guns.
>>>
>>> Please to describe how a Canadian gangster would legally purchase a
>>> gun in the US and transport it back to Canaduh?
>>
>>
>> Have you been living under a rock? Have you heard of the gun loophole
>> in the US. You can buy a gun in a gun show and walk off with it. Do I
>> have to tell you everything?
>
>However, you cannot legally take it to Canada without declaring it.

[uVAoh⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄iWtwX]

Beam Me Up Scotty wrote on 24/01/2016 11:07:
> On 01/23/2016 09:36 PM, StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote on 23/01/2016 20:35:
>>> On 2016-01-23 8:07 PM, Byker wrote:
>>>> "Gy" wrote in message
>>>> news:8c3ce020-d6fe-4c75...@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Canadians should turn in their guns
>>>>
>>>> Now watch shotguns be added to list of "restricted" firearms (handguns,
>>>> semi-automatic rifles, etc.)...
>>>
>>>
>>> Since the shooter is 17 he will be out of jail before you can blink, and
>>> his juvenile record will be cleared Heaven forbid they apply any of the
>>> existing laws against him. Instead of dealing with the violent
>>> criminal they will more likely enact more laws to hassle law abiding
>>> citizens.
>>
>> Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police until
>> they started shooing.
>>
>> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
>>
>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will you
>> still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>
> A human is NOT a TV and defective humans won't be working humans because
> you took away their Gun. As we have seen recently with some defective
> women and even a few men they use a car and drive it into a crowd of
> people. So what will you be banning next in order to mainstream that 1
> in 100 into normal society?

Easy. Regulate guns just like we regulate cars. Every gun has to be
issued an annual gun permit. One copy of the gun permit must be attached
to the gun at all times, and the legal gun owner has to carry the
"owner's copy" of the gun permit when carrying, using, or in close
proximity to the gun. The price for a gun permit should be at least
$1,000 annually to cover administrative cost and a pool of funds for
gun-victim compensation.

Besides, every gun owner has to buy $1,000,000 "Third party liability
insurance to cover damage to property, life and personal injury".

[Unknown]

Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:vC7py.202537$qz7....@fx01.iad:

Sales of guns from one private individual to another in the US is legal
per federal law as it does not involve interstate commerce, statewise,
that mileage may vary. However, to transfer that gun to a private
individual in another state does involved interstate commerce and would
necessarily involve a state of residence FFL to keep the transfer legal.

Canada's laws regarding transfer of a firearm into the country are
covered here:

http://tinyurl.com/zakxb6k

http://tinyurl.com/ofovmja

[OJaqJ⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛AtJAv]

If we cannot stop gun crime, then make the gun owners pay for the cost
of gun crime.

[Unknown]

Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in
news:n02aabhg1b1k8paqo...@4ax.com:

??? What does this have to do with purchasing a firearm in the US and
taking it to Canada?

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

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=?UTF-8?B?772B772C772FIOKWkWhBdElx?= <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote in
news:bl7py.220768$LO3.1...@fx15.iad:

Why yes, yes you do.

How would a Canadian citizen with Canadian id be able to purchase a gun
themself from a US gun dealer?

And then how do they drive back across the border with it legally, given
the stories I've heard about Canadian border guards tossing cars thoroughly
if they even think there is a suspicionof a gun in the car.

Basically you're an ignoramus. You spout "facts" that are not true because
you are essentially to stupid to realize how wrong they are.

Because if they buy one privately and smuggle it into Canaduh, they have
broken the law. Period. Don't beleive me? Call the RCMP and ask.

I have myself as I was planning a trip to Canada and then I heard that
books are banned in Canada, so I requested a list of banned publications so
I wouldn't accidentally bring one with me.

Very illuminating what they are afraid of thier people viewing.

And I asked about firearms if I was a CCW. Apparently if you are not a
hunter with a license issued by Canada you cannot bring a gun into Canada.
And even if you are a hunter thier a restrictions on what you can bring.

Suffice it to say that any regualt citizen of either country trying to
bring a pistol from the US to Canada, if found out, is in for a legal
nightmare.

So yes PLEASE explain it to all of us, shitwad.

[First Post]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:13:05 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Think about what? Isn't smuggling guns across the Canadian border
illegal?
What additional laws do you flaming asswipes believe will prevent it
since you all apparently don't put a lot of effort into trying to stop
bad guys from coming and going into Canada?

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:vC7py.202537$qz7....@fx01.iad:

If it;s smuggled, it's not legal, dumbass. His proposition was that a
Canadain gangster was in legal possesion of a gun he bought in the US.

Which he would not be.

[Unknown]

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=?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772F4qu34puEaVd0d1g=?= <cS...@wHcGO.com> wrote in
news:JO7py.497308$Mn5.3...@fx06.fr7:

We only register cars for use on public thoroughfares.

Every gun has to be
> issued an annual gun permit. One copy of the gun permit must be
> attached to the gun at all times, and the legal gun owner has to carry
> the "owner's copy" of the gun permit when carrying, using, or in close
> proximity to the gun. The price for a gun permit should be at least
> $1,000 annually to cover administrative cost and a pool of funds for
> gun-victim compensation.
>
> Besides, every gun owner has to buy $1,000,000 "Third party liability
> insurance to cover damage to property, life and personal injury".

My insurance already covers me in a legal shoot in my home. Does yours?

[Unknown]

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=?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam0F0SkF2?= <WY...@KNgwl.com> wrote in
news:tS7py.3507$TP....@fx15.ams1:

Why? I had nothing to do with gun crime.

>
> Regulate guns just like we regulate cars. Every gun has to be issued
> an annual gun permit. One copy of the gun permit must be attached to
> the gun at all times, and the legal gun owner has to carry the
> "owner's copy" of the gun permit when carrying, using, or in close
> proximity to the gun. The price for a gun permit should be at least
> $1,000 annually to cover administrative cost and a pool of funds for
> gun-victim compensation.

Interesting, since I don't pay the cost of your careless driving
accidents. That's why YOU have to have insurance.

> Besides, every gun owner has to buy $1,000,000 "Third party liability
> insurance to cover damage to property, life and personal injury".

ROFLMAO!!!

[Dave Smith]

On 2016-01-24 12:28 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:vC7py.202537$qz7....@fx01.iad:
>
>> On 2016-01-24 10:46 AM, Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns
>>>> legally themselves in the US or took them from someone who legally
>>>> purchased those guns.
>>>
>>> Please to describe how a Canadian gangster would legally purchase a
>>> gun in the US and transport it back to Canaduh?
>>>
>>> You are such an ass.
>>
>> Speaking of asses.... It doesn't take much to buy a gun in some
>> states. As for smuggling.... think about it.
>
> Sales of guns from one private individual to another in the US is legal
> per federal law as it does not involve interstate commerce, statewise,
> that mileage may vary. However, to transfer that gun to a private
> individual in another state does involved interstate commerce and would
> necessarily involve a state of residence FFL to keep the transfer legal.
>
> Canada's laws regarding transfer of a firearm into the country are
> covered here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/zakxb6k
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ofovmja
>

I don't know if the criminals who smuggle them into Canada are aware of
the exact requirements that have to be met to do it legally. I think you
will find that the smugglers aren't really interested in doing it legally.

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

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=?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam0F0SkF2?= <WY...@KNgwl.com> wrote in
news:tS7py.3507$TP....@fx15.ams1:

How about we make Democrat voters responsible for the crtimes of the
Democrats? Accessory before the fact will do.

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

First Post <Liberalism_...@Leftwing-Cowards.net> wrote in
news:hg2aabtbj8vcbb2iq...@4ax.com:

Ding.
Ding.
Ding.

[Unknown]

Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in

news:DZ7py.159245$L45.1...@fx09.iad:

I think you will find that the RCMP are.

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

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UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam0F0SkF2?= <WY...@KNgwl.com> wrote in
news:tS7py.3507$TP....@fx15.ams1:

> Besides, every gun owner has to buy $1,000,000 "Third party liability
> insurance to cover damage to property, life and personal injury".

I would love to cause damage to property and life and cause you grievous
personal injury.

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote in
news:XnsA5996CF65...@216.166.97.131:

They are NOT amused.

--
"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to
the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time,

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:32:43 -0600, RD Sandman

www.fdhc.state.fl.us/mchq/health_facility_regulation/.../NIA_Def.pdf
Definition of Nonimmigrant Alien - A person who is not a citizen of
the United States who enters the country is allowed to stay in the
United States for a specific reason and for a limited amount of time.

[Scout]

"M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com> wrote in message
news:n82o99$sq2$1...@dont-email.me...
> "EvlPG⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛gvPsH" wrote in message
> news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1...

>
>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>> > "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL" wrote in message

>> > news:KMWoy.675366$5%6.44...@fx21.fr7...
>> >
>> >> Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police until
>> >> they started shooing.
>> >>
>> >> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
>> >> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will
>> >> you still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>> >
>> > In 2012, the gun homicide rate in Canada was 0.49 per 100,000, and
>> > about
>> > 46% of that amount was gang-related ... they're not using legal guns
>> > ...
>> > assuming every other gun homicide was committed with a legal weapon,
>> > you're 70% more likely to be stabbed to death, and 16% more likely to
>> > be
>> > beaten to death, than you are to be killed with a legal gun in Canada.
>
>> What is a legal gun? A legal gun is a gun legally purchased by the gun
>> buyer.
>

> And registered when required. Virtually every gang-related killing was
> committed with a gun illegally smuggled into Canada from the US. And even
> then, guns are somewhat hard to get ... weapons have been used in multiple
> crimes because different gangs have been sharing one gun.

That happens in the US as well.

> The US gun homicide rate per 100,000 is 7 times higher than Canada's.

And the Mexican homicide rate per 100,000 is even higher.

So what's your point?

> The US major assault involving a firearm rate is 9.5 times higher that
> Canada's.

The Mexican major assault involving a firearm rate is even higher.

So what's your point?

> The US robbery rate involving a firearm is 5 times higher than Canada's.

Still waiting for your point.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:26:00 -0500, uVAoh???????? ? ?????????iWtwX
<cS...@wHcGO.com> wrote:

>Beam Me Up Scotty wrote on 24/01/2016 11:07:

Cool! That means anyone from 16 years old up can buy any kind of gun
they want and take it to any state to use it! No federal licensing or
registration! A simple test just about anyone can pass! Any person
may use a gun on his own private property without any license or
registration!

Your idea has some merit!

Have you written your congressman yet?

[chuckle]

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:30:00 -0500, OJaqJ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??AtJAv
<WY...@KNgwl.com> wrote:

>
>If we cannot stop gun crime, then make the gun owners pay for the cost
>of gun crime.

No, we make YOU pay.

[CRiqz⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛ORhaa]

Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 24/01/2016 12:47:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:32:43 -0600, RD Sandman
> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in
>> news:n02aabhg1b1k8paqo...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:17:06 -0600, RD Sandman
>>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> =?UTF-8?B?YnlXZ3TilpEg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKWkSDvvLfvvYHvvY7vvY4=?
>> =
>>>> =?UTF-8?B?772B772C772FIOKWkWhBdElx?= <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote in
>>>> news:bl7py.220768$LO3.1...@fx15.iad:
>>>>
>>>>> Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016
>>>>> 10:46:
>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?
>> RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=
>>>>>> ?= =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com>
>>>>>> wrote in news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>>>>>>> "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈ�ｙ ⸎
>>>>>>>> Ｗ�ｎｎ�ｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL"

Even a person with a pea-brain can bypass that. Just ask someone to buy
a gun for you at a gun show and pay him an extra $10 instant profit.

[Dave Smith]

Not every car has to be registered. They only have to be registered and
hold a currently valid permit if they are being used on public roads.

> One copy of the gun permit must be attached to the
> gun at all times, and the legal gun owner has to carry the "owner's
> copy" of the gun permit when carrying, using, or in close proximity to
> the gun. The price for a gun permit should be at least $1,000 annually
> to cover administrative cost and a pool of funds for gun-victim
> compensation.


> Besides, every gun owner has to buy $1,000,000 "Third party liability
> insurance to cover damage to property, life and personal injury".

That is the sort of ridiculous suggestion that upsets gun owners to the
point where they resent any regulations at all and see them only as
another government money grab. Canadian gun owners are already paying
for their possession licences. Given that it involves only a new photo
and the processing of the application form. There is no reason to do it
annually, other than to collect money. There is already a fund for
victims of crime in Ontario. Let the people who are convicted of
committing crimes pay into the fund.

[Scout]

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in message
news:mh1aabll1kt2se215...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:54:31 -0500, byWgt? ?????? ? ??????? ?hAtIq
> <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote:
>
>>Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016 10:46:
>>> =?UTF-8?B?RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=?=
>>> =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com> wrote in
>>> news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>
>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>>>> "StEWU�"猥革辑锝?锝?锝^锝"锝T 飧Z 锛凤�锝Z锝Z锝?锝,锝.猥封>"IdfiL"

Is The Wannabe Loser still hanging around?

Man, talk about desperate.

>>You can buy a gun in a gun show and walk off with it. Do I have
>>to tell you everything?
>
> That's what gun shows are for.

Damn, and here I thought it was to show off your guns.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

Well, he needs attention. His mom probably boarded up the basement
windows after "The Incident" so there's no light or ventilation until
the kitchen door opens and she throws down a pair of clean pajamas and
a can of stew. There's only so much he can do at 9600 baud.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:53:01 -0500, CRiqz?? ?????? ? ??????? ??ORhaa
<jp...@itmyQ.com> wrote:

>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 24/01/2016 12:47:
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:32:43 -0600, RD Sandman
>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in
>>> news:n02aabhg1b1k8paqo...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:17:06 -0600, RD Sandman
>>>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?YnlXZ3TilpEg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKWkSDvvLfvvYHvvY7vvY4=?
>>> =
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?772B772C772FIOKWkWhBdElx?= <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:bl7py.220768$LO3.1...@fx15.iad:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016
>>>>>> 10:46:
>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?
>>> RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=
>>>>>>> ?= =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com>
>>>>>>> wrote in news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>>>>>>>> "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈï½�€?ï½™ ⸎
>>>>>>>>> ï¼·ï½Â?ｎｎï½Â?ｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL"

Yet a person with a pea-brain-- in this case, you-- can't understand
that a Canadian can't legally buy a gun in the US.

And your pea-brain is no doubt still struggling with this:

: Please to describe how a Canadian gangster would legally purchase a

:gun in the US and transport it back to Canaduh?

>Just ask someone to buy
>a gun for you at a gun show and pay him an extra $10 instant profit.

Again, your pea-brain struggles with the "legally" part.

Are you Canadian? I'd hate to think that all Canadians are as stupid
as you are.

[Unknown]

"Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs"

<nuke_them_...@sulaco.com> wrote in
news:XnsA59981ACCCF9We...@213.239.209.88:

Bingo!!

[Unknown]

Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in

news:me3aabpm8i3sdouuu...@4ax.com:

Fair enough.....a different angle from my approach but it also covers it.

[Unknown]

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=?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam09SaGFh?= <jp...@itmyQ.com> wrote in
news:2c8py.18993$PP....@fx23.ams1:

> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 24/01/2016 12:47:
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:32:43 -0600, RD Sandman
>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in
>>> news:n02aabhg1b1k8paqo...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:17:06 -0600, RD Sandman
>>>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?YnlXZ3TilpEg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKWkSDvvLfvvYHvvY7vv
>>>>> Y4=?
>>> =
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?772B772C772FIOKWkWhBdElx?= <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:bl7py.220768$LO3.1...@fx15.iad:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016
>>>>>> 10:46:
>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?
>>> RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=
>>>>>>> ?= =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?=
>>>>>>> <uF...@ZycsY.com> wrote in news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:
>>>>>>>>> "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉ
>>>>>>>>> ｇｈ�ｙ
>>>>>>>>> ⸎

>>>>>>>>> ï¼·ï½Â?ｎｎï½Â?ïÃ
>>>>>>>>> �½â€šÃ¯Â½â€¦Ã¢Â«Â·Ã¢â€ºâ€žIdfiL"

If that gun show is in the US and you are trying to cross the Canadian
with it after you bought it......good luck.

[First Post]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:15:10 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@null.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:53:01 -0500, CRiqz?? ?????? ? ??????? ??ORhaa
><jp...@itmyQ.com> wrote:
>
>>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 24/01/2016 12:47:
>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:32:43 -0600, RD Sandman
>>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in
>>>> news:n02aabhg1b1k8paqo...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:17:06 -0600, RD Sandman
>>>>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?YnlXZ3TilpEg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKWkSDvvLfvvYHvvY7vvY4=?
>>>> =
>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?772B772C772FIOKWkWhBdElx?= <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:bl7py.220768$LO3.1...@fx15.iad:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016
>>>>>>> 10:46:
>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?
>>>> RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=
>>>>>>>> ?= =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote in news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>>>>>>>>> "StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈ�ｙ ⸎
>>>>>>>>>> Ｗ�ｎｎ�ｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL"

Well, if the Canadians that post here are typical...........

[Scout]

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in message
news:mh3aab1e9851dhpdk...@4ax.com...

Actually you can buy anything your parents would allow. I bought my first
car when I was 14. After all there is no age limit on buying a car, and none
on driving it on private property. Even public roads are open under certain
conditions because I was legally driving that car on public roads 6 months
after I had bought it. Heck it was even a compact I bought across state
lines, cash and carry, no dealership, no background check, just paid the man
and took it away.

>No federal licensing or
> registration! A simple test just about anyone can pass! Any person
> may use a gun on his own private property without any license or
> registration!
>
> Your idea has some merit!
>
> Have you written your congressman yet?
>
> [chuckle]

Heck, we can get those "Monster Guns" that are so big that you can crush
cars with them.

And of course, guns with a 600 miles ranges

Then we can have new guns that are automatics.

We can also get really small guns.

And guns that shoot really really fast. after all your average car fires at
least 6,000 times a second in use that puts us at 360,000 rounds per minute.

Of course, some cars fire up to 80,000 times a second or 4,800,000 times a
minute.

[jteller]

On 24 Jan 2016,
=?UTF-8?B?dVZBb2jim4Tiq7jvvK3vvYnvvYfvvYjvvZTvvZkg4riOIO+8t++9ge+9jg==?=
=?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772F4qu34puEaVd0d1g=?= <cS...@wHcGO.com> posted
some news:JO7py.497308$Mn5.3...@fx06.fr7:

> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote on 24/01/2016 11:07:

>> On 01/23/2016 09:36 PM, StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎

>> Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote on 23/01/2016 20:35:
>>>> On 2016-01-23 8:07 PM, Byker wrote:
>>>>> "Gy" wrote in message
>>>>> news:8c3ce020-d6fe-4c75...@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Canadians should turn in their guns
>>>>>
>>>>> Now watch shotguns be added to list of "restricted" firearms
>>>>> (handguns, semi-automatic rifles, etc.)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since the shooter is 17 he will be out of jail before you can
>>>> blink, and his juvenile record will be cleared Heaven forbid they
>>>> apply any of the existing laws against him. Instead of dealing
>>>> with the violent criminal they will more likely enact more laws to
>>>> hassle law abiding citizens.
>>>
>>> Most mass shoots were law abiding citizens and unknown to police
>>> until they started shooing.
>>>
>>> If 99% of gun owners are law abiding, that means 1% are not.
>>>
>>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will
>>> you still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>>
>> A human is NOT a TV and defective humans won't be working humans
>> because you took away their Gun. As we have seen recently with some
>> defective women and even a few men they use a car and drive it into a
>> crowd of people. So what will you be banning next in order to
>> mainstream that 1 in 100 into normal society?
>
>
> Easy. Regulate guns just like we regulate cars. Every gun has to be

> issued an annual gun permit. One copy of the gun permit must be

> attached to the gun at all times, and the legal gun owner has to carry
> the "owner's copy" of the gun permit when carrying, using, or in close
> proximity to the gun. The price for a gun permit should be at least
> $1,000 annually to cover administrative cost and a pool of funds for
> gun-victim compensation.

That won't solve or prevent anything.

Gun violence is a behavioral issue. People have been conditioned to
resort to gun violence by blacks, hispanics and homosexual hollywood. It
started at child birth, and rooted when lazy left wing parents delegated
responsible parenting to videos on TV screens. Boneheaded sycophantic
child development "professionals" refuse to establish the link.

What do impressionable children see? Violence, destructive, all-ending
violence.

It has been presented to them as the first line of problem resolution by
their parents and the entertainment industry from birth.

And you wonder why there are incidents of gun violence in places where
nobody would ever think of such things before.

> Besides, every gun owner has to buy $1,000,000 "Third party liability
> insurance to cover damage to property, life and personal injury".

Following that line, every unemployed left wing nutjob loses their right
to vote until they are gainfully employed for at least 3 months again.

Nobody on welfare should have the right to vote. It's a conflict of
interest.

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

"Scout" <me4...@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
news:n833io$fd3$1...@dont-email.me:

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Loophole

Loophole

An omission or Ambiguity in a legal document that allows the intent of the
document to be evaded.

Loopholes come into being through the passage of statutes, the enactment of
regulations, the drafting of contracts or the decisions of courts. A
loophole allows an individual or group to use some gap in the restrictions
or requirements of the law or contract for personal advantage without
technically breaking the law or contract. In response, lawmakers and
regulators work to pass reforms that will close the loophole. For example,
in the federal tax code, a long-standing loophole was the socalled tax
shelter, which allowed taxpayers to reduce their tax debt by making
investments. Although not closed entirely, this loophole was substantially
reduced by the tax reform act of 1986 (Pub. L. No. 99-514, 100 Stat. 2085
[codified as amended in numerous sections of 26 U.S.C.A.]).

Loopholes exist because it is impossible to foresee every circumstance or
course of conduct that will arise under, or in response to, the law.
Loopholes often endure for a time because they can be difficult to close.
Those who benefit from a loophole will lobby legislators or regulators to
leave the loophole open. In the case of Election Campaign Financing, it is
the legislators themselves who benefit. The Federal Election Campaign Act
Amendments of 1974 (Pub. L. No. 93-443, 88 Stat. 1263 [1974] [codified as
amended in scattered sections of 2 U.S.C.A. Ё 431� (1988)]) were passed
to limit private financing of federal election campaigns. But loopholes in
the law allow these limits to be circumvented. Through one loophole,
intermediaries can pool or "bundle" contributions so that the limit is not
legally exceeded. Through another, money raised specifically for building
political parties (soft money) is funneled into campaigns.

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

=?UTF-8?B?Q1JpcXrimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=?=
=?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam09SaGFh?= <jp...@itmyQ.com> wrote in
news:2c8py.18993$PP....@fx23.ams1:

> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 24/01/2016 12:47:
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:32:43 -0600, RD Sandman
>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in
>>> news:n02aabhg1b1k8paqo...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:17:06 -0600, RD Sandman
>>>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?YnlXZ3TilpEg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKWkSDvvLfvvYHvvY7vvY4
>>>>> =?
>>> =
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?772B772C772FIOKWkWhBdElx?= <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:bl7py.220768$LO3.1...@fx15.iad:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016
>>>>>> 10:46:
>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?
>>> RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=
>>>>>>> ?= =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com>
>>>>>>> wrote in news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:
>>>>>>>>> "StEWU⛄⫸ＭｉÃ
>>>>>>>>> ¯Â½â€¡Ã¯Â½Ë†Ã¯Â½â€?ï½™
>>>>>>>>> ⸎

>>>>>>>>> ï¼·ï½Â?ｎｎï½Â?ïÂÂ
>>>>>>>>> �‚ｅ⫷⛄IdfiL"

But, stupid, that is again, NOT LEGAL. Another fail.

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

=?UTF-8?B?Q1JpcXrimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=?=
=?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam09SaGFh?= <jp...@itmyQ.com> wrote in
news:2c8py.18993$PP....@fx23.ams1:

> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 24/01/2016 12:47:
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:32:43 -0600, RD Sandman
>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in
>>> news:n02aabhg1b1k8paqo...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:17:06 -0600, RD Sandman
>>>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?YnlXZ3TilpEg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKWkSDvvLfvvYHvvY7vvY4
>>>>> =?
>>> =
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?772B772C772FIOKWkWhBdElx?= <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:bl7py.220768$LO3.1...@fx15.iad:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016
>>>>>> 10:46:
>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?
>>> RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=
>>>>>>> ?= =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com>
>>>>>>> wrote in news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:
>>>>>>>>> "StEWU⛄⫸ＭｉÃ
>>>>>>>>> ¯Â½â€¡Ã¯Â½Ë†Ã¯Â½â€?ï½™
>>>>>>>>> ⸎

>>>>>>>>> ï¼·ï½Â?ｎｎï½Â?ïÂÂ
>>>>>>>>> �‚ｅ⫷⛄IdfiL"

And yes I have been made that offer and refused. My feeling is if you can't
buy from a dealer, then you can't buy from me.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:16:54 -0600, RD Sandman

Just to put things into their proper perspective, I Googled "Canadian
Gangster"....

http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aVXN5AM_700b.jpg

http://ilawled.com/images/1219-Canadian-Gangster/fitted.jpg?1349055073

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

As long as I can get one that will blow up a railroad I'd be
satisfied.


"You know that these [assault] weapons can shoot down airplanes, they
can blow up railroads. "
-Gun Expert Rev. Jesse Jackson.

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

On 01/24/2016 01:12 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 13:04:38 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4...@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in message
>> news:mh1aabll1kt2se215...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:54:31 -0500, byWgt? ?????? ? ??????? ?hAtIq
>>> <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016 10:46:
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=?=
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>>>
>>>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>>>>>> "StEWUâ>"⫸Ｍï½?ï½?ï½^ï½"ï½T â¸Z ï¼·ï½?ï½Zï½Zï½?ï½,ï½.â«·â>"IdfiL"

It's more like "Comicon" where you go to see all the stuff that other
collectors and your heroes are selling and creating for the future.

New ideas come from those types of shows.

--
That's Karma

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

On 01/24/2016 01:12 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 13:04:38 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4...@vcenturylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in message
>> news:mh1aabll1kt2se215...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:54:31 -0500, byWgt? ?????? ? ??????? ?hAtIq
>>> <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016 10:46:
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=?=
>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>>>
>>>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>>>>>> "StEWUâ>"⫸Ｍï½?ï½?ï½^ï½"ï½T â¸Z ï¼·ï½?ï½Zï½Zï½?ï½,ï½.â«·â>"IdfiL"

It's more like "Comicon" where you go to see all the stuff that other
collectors and your heroes are selling and creating for the future.

New ideas come from those types of shows.

*People at Comicon need to have a background check* to be selling their
crap as well.

--
That's Karma

[First Post]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 18:32:44 -0000 (UTC), "Cruzing to the White House,
Trumping the Libs" <nuke_them_...@sulaco.com> wrote:

>=?UTF-8?B?Q1JpcXrimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=?=
>=?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam09SaGFh?= <jp...@itmyQ.com> wrote in
>news:2c8py.18993$PP....@fx23.ams1:
>
>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote on 24/01/2016 12:47:
>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:32:43 -0600, RD Sandman
>>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in
>>>> news:n02aabhg1b1k8paqo...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:17:06 -0600, RD Sandman
>>>>> <rdsandman[remove]comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?YnlXZ3TilpEg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKWkSDvvLfvvYHvvY7vvY4
>>>>>> =?
>>>> =
>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?772B772C772FIOKWkWhBdElx?= <pi...@BhgoH.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:bl7py.220768$LO3.1...@fx15.iad:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote on 24/01/2016
>>>>>>> 10:46:
>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?B?
>>>> RXZsUEfimpvihpAg77yt772J772H772I772U772ZIOKVrCDvvLfvvYHvvY4=
>>>>>>>> ?= =?UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam2d2UHNI?= <uF...@ZycsY.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote in news:ER4py.14945$EP....@fx06.ams1:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> M.I.Wakefield wrote on 24/01/2016 07:57:

>>>>>>>>>> "StEWU⛄⫸ＭｉÃ
>>>>>>>>>> ¯Â½â€¡Ã¯Â½Ë†Ã¯Â½â€?ï½™
>>>>>>>>>> ⸎
>>>>>>>>>> ï¼·ï½Â?ｎｎï½Â?ïÂÂ
>>>>>>>>>> ½Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ÃƒÂ¯Ã‚½â€¦Ã¢Â«Â·Ã¢â€ºâ€žIdfiL"

So by "wannabe's" logic, if a teenager pays an older person to buy
liquor for them then that is just a loophole in the law.
In others words, if you commit a crime and can get away with it then
it has to be a loophole. So you need yet another law on the books to
make it illegal to get away with a crime, yes?

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

The constitution says the guilty pay...

--
That's Karma

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

On 01/24/2016 12:50 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

And there would be no background checks until you go to register the
"gun" for use on public property. Like they do with "cars" when they
look for stolen #vin numbers.

You can order them by mail and have them delivered to your home with
ZERO government interference like a car.

And the State could then require insurance to carry your gun on public
property.... to pay for any damage you might cause. The violation
would be the same as driving a car without insurance and have the same
legal repercussions.



--
That's Karma

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

On 01/24/2016 12:32 PM, First Post wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:13:05 -0500, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>
>> On 2016-01-24 10:46 AM, Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs wrote:
>>
>>>> Gangsters used legal guns. Gangsters either bought their guns legally
>>>> themselves in the US or took them from someone who legally purchased
>>>> those guns.
>>>
>>> Please to describe how a Canadian gangster would legally purchase a gun in
>>> the US and transport it back to Canaduh?
>>>

>>> You are such an ass.
>>
>> Speaking of asses.... It doesn't take much to buy a gun in some
>> states. As for smuggling.... think about it.
>>
>>

> Think about what? Isn't smuggling guns across the Canadian border
> illegal?
> What additional laws do you flaming asswipes believe will prevent it
> since you all apparently don't put a lot of effort into trying to stop
> bad guys from coming and going into Canada?
>
The reason they don't enforce laws is to create a crisis so they can get
their Marxist laws that they want....

--
That's Karma

If a marriage license *can't* tell you who you *must marry*
depending on sexual identity... how can a business license tell
you who you *Must engage in commerce with* depending on sexual
identity?

*Liberalism is unsustainable, self destructive and contradicting*

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

On 01/24/2016 12:26 PM, uVAoh⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄iWtwX wrote:
> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote on 24/01/2016 11:07:

>> On 01/23/2016 09:36 PM, StEWU⛄⫸Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ⸎ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ⫷⛄IdfiL

> issued an annual gun permit. One copy of the gun permit must be attached
> to the gun at all times, and the legal gun owner has to carry the
> "owner's copy" of the gun permit when carrying, using, or in close
> proximity to the gun. The price for a gun permit should be at least
> $1,000 annually to cover administrative cost and a pool of funds for
> gun-victim compensation.
>

NO.. the free market covers the gun victims so the gun owners have
personal insurance for their use of guns in public.

There would be no insurance or registration for a gun that you keep on
your property like the old classic cars you keep in your garage and
don't register or insure.

You buy insurance in case you have a loss or accident at your home if
you desire that insurance.

That means private security are required to buy insurance for their guns
being used in public.... and CCW owners would need private insurance.
That makes the wealthy pay more for their security. But you can keep a
gun at home with zero insurance and zero background checks unless you
buy that gun across State lines.

> Besides, every gun owner has to buy $1,000,000 "Third party liability
> insurance to cover damage to property, life and personal injury".

That would make the government fund an intrusion and a moot point and
simply show that Liberals are seeking to inflict useless cost and
regulation to make gun ownership more expensive. To ban guns by making
them so expensive that the poor can't afford them when Liberals are
supposed to be against that kind of treatment of the poor... and those
are also racist policies since the poor are mostly blacks and they
commit crimes because they are poor. SO you want to penalize the blacks
because they are poor.

Liberals want to get the guns out of the hands of minorities because
they blame the minorities for the high crime rate... at least that's
what you're doing.

--
That's Karma

[Cruzing to the White House, Trumping the Libs]

First Post <Liberalism_...@Leftwing-Cowards.net> wrote in
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Ya know what, I don't know what this mental patient is talking about.

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UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam0F0SkF2?= <WY...@KNgwl.com> wrote in
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> If we cannot stop gun crime, then make the gun owners pay for the cost
> of gun crime.

I got a better idea. Make progressive voters pay for the failures of
progressivism.

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Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@null.net> wrote in

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>>>>>>>>>> ï¼·ï½Â?ｎｎï½Â?ｂｅ⫷â›â
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I justed checked the current laws without regard for "gangster" or not.

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> http://ilawled.com/images/1219-Canadian-Gangster/fitted.jpg?1349055073

[Just Wondering]

On 1/24/2016 some poor Wannabe wrote:
> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

>> On 01/23/2016 some poor Wannabe wrote:
>>>
>>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will you
>>> still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>>

>> A human is NOT a TV and defective humans won't be working humans because
>> you took away their Gun. As we have seen recently with some defective
>> women and even a few men they use a car and drive it into a crowd of
>> people. So what will you be banning next in order to mainstream that 1
>> in 100 into normal society?
>
> Easy. Regulate guns just like we regulate cars.
>

You have no idea about what you just wrote.
There are NO AGE restrictions on the purchase of cars.
There are NO restrictions on the KIND of car you can buy. Anyone can
buy any car regardless of the car's age, features, horsepower, maximum
speed, carrying capacity, etc.
You can buy a FULLY AUTOMATIC car as easily as any other car.
Anyone can buy a car regardless of his CRIMINAL BACKGROUND or MENTAL HEALTH.
There are NO requirements for a background check.
There are NO restrictions on "strawman" gun purchases.
As long as you don't actually drive it on a public road, there is NO
requirement for licensing, registration, insurance, etc. of cars or drivers.

If guns were regulated just like cars, a 15 year old with a history of
convictions for violent crimes and a court record of confirmed mental
illness could legally, without a background check, buy a fully automatic
M240B rifle, and as long as he didn't fire it from a public road he
could use it without the need for any license or registration.
THAT'S what it would look like to regulate guns just like we regulate cars.

[Just Wondering]

On 1/25/2016 2:44 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 1/24/2016 some poor Wannabe wrote:
>> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>> On 01/23/2016 some poor Wannabe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will you
>>>> still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>>>
>>> A human is NOT a TV and defective humans won't be working humans because
>>> you took away their Gun. As we have seen recently with some defective
>>> women and even a few men they use a car and drive it into a crowd of
>>> people. So what will you be banning next in order to mainstream that 1
>>> in 100 into normal society?
>>
>> Easy. Regulate guns just like we regulate cars.
> >
> You have no idea about what you just wrote.
> There are NO AGE restrictions on the purchase of cars.
> There are NO restrictions on the KIND of car you can buy. Anyone can
> buy any car regardless of the car's age, features, horsepower, maximum
> speed, carrying capacity, etc.
> You can buy a FULLY AUTOMATIC car as easily as any other car.
> Anyone can buy a car regardless of his CRIMINAL BACKGROUND or MENTAL
> HEALTH.
> There are NO requirements for a background check.
> There are NO restrictions on "strawman" gun purchases.

Sorry for the typo - that's "strawman" car purchases.

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Just Wondering <fmh...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:JGwpy.194725$b8.6...@fx29.iad:

Ouch. Well done.

--
"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to
the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time,

[Scout]

"Just Wondering" <fmh...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Bravo....

Archived for future use.

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Just Wondering <fmh...@comcast.net> wrote in

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> On 1/24/2016 some poor Wannabe wrote:
>> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>> On 01/23/2016 some poor Wannabe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If 1 out every 100 TV can catch fire and burn down your home, will
>>>> you still still say that brand of TV is safe?
>>>
>>> A human is NOT a TV and defective humans won't be working humans
>>> because you took away their Gun. As we have seen recently with some
>>> defective women and even a few men they use a car and drive it into
>>> a crowd of people. So what will you be banning next in order to
>>> mainstream that 1 in 100 into normal society?
>>
>> Easy. Regulate guns just like we regulate cars.
> >
> You have no idea about what you just wrote.
> There are NO AGE restrictions on the purchase of cars.
> There are NO restrictions on the KIND of car you can buy. Anyone can
> buy any car regardless of the car's age, features, horsepower, maximum
> speed, carrying capacity, etc.
> You can buy a FULLY AUTOMATIC car as easily as any other car.
> Anyone can buy a car regardless of his CRIMINAL BACKGROUND or MENTAL
> HEALTH. There are NO requirements for a background check.
> There are NO restrictions on "strawman" gun purchases.
> As long as you don't actually drive it on a public road, there is NO
> requirement for licensing, registration, insurance, etc. of cars or
> drivers.

Additionally, I could legally purchase it in Virginia while on vacation,
motor up to Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, etc.. and then drive
it out to Arizona without being hassled, or worried about being stopped
or searched. Hell, I could also have it simply shipped to me in Arizona
and not have to visit a dealer to pick it up.

> If guns were regulated just like cars, a 15 year old with a history of
> convictions for violent crimes and a court record of confirmed mental
> illness could legally, without a background check, buy a fully
> automatic M240B rifle, and as long as he didn't fire it from a public
> road he could use it without the need for any license or registration.
> THAT'S what it would look like to regulate guns just like we regulate
> cars.

As Disney would say......."It's a Wonderful World".