[CS363] 关于期末复习与还书

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Xiaofeng Gao

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Jun 7, 2012, 1:47:24 AM6/7/12
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各位同学,

为了方便大家复习,本课程课件特别制作了Compact Print Version,大家可以去课程主页相应位置下载。

另,今天收到通知,英语班的课本应统一退还给陈芸老师,故请大家自行组织将课本直接给陈老师,不需要在考试时候还给我。

Lab 5和Lab 6的答案将于明天送至班长魏晅中处,请大家联系班长复印。

还有任何问题请随时与我联系。

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Sincerely Yours,

Xiaofeng Gao, PH.D.(高晓沨)
Assistant Professor
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Email: gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn
Office: Telecom Bldg 3-543 Phone: 021-34207407


Zuo Zeng

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Jun 9, 2012, 9:17:55 AM6/9/12
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能不能把用到的符号,尤其是那种不常见的,集中起来讲下,或者考试的时候可以问?

Xiaofeng Gao

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Jun 9, 2012, 9:05:44 AM6/9/12
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比如说什么符号?

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Assistant Professor
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Email: gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn
Office: Telecom Bldg 3-543 Phone: 021-34207407

On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:17:55 +0800, Zuo Zeng wrote:
> 能不能把用到的符号,尤其是那种不常见的,集中起来讲下,或者考试的时候可以问?
>
> 在 2012年6月7日 下午1:47,Xiaofeng Gao 写道:
>
>> 各位同学,
>>
>> 为了方便大家复习,本课程课件特别制作了Compact
>> Print Version,大家可以去课程主页相应位置下载。
>>
>>
> 另,今天收到通知,英语班的课本应统一退还给陈芸老师,故请大家自行组织将课本直接给陈老师,不需要在考试时候还给我。
>>
>> Lab 5和Lab
>>
> 6的答案将于明天送至班长魏晅中处,请大家联系班长复印。
>>
>> 还有任何问题请随时与我联系。
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> Sincerely Yours,
>>
>> Xiaofeng Gao, PH.D.(高晓沨)
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>> Shanghai Jiao Tong University
>> Email: gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn [1]
>> Office: Telecom Bldg 3-543 Phone: 021-34207407
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] mailto:gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn
> [2] mailto:gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn

Zuo Zeng

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Jun 9, 2012, 9:30:06 AM6/9/12
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比如
f | A
f(x,y)\simeq y

Xiaofeng Gao

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Jun 9, 2012, 2:40:04 PM6/9/12
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各位同学,

谢谢曾笮同学的建议,我新做了SymbolList已经挂在课程主页上,基本涵盖了本课程用到的全部符号,大家可以去下载参考。也欢迎大家查漏补缺,尽量把list做得完整些。

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Sincerely Yours,

Xiaofeng Gao, PH.D.(高晓沨)
Assistant Professor
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Email: gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn
Office: Telecom Bldg 3-543 Phone: 021-34207407

On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:30:06 +0800, Zuo Zeng wrote:
> 比如
> f | A
> f(x,y)simeq y
>
> 在 2012年6月9日 下午9:05,Xiaofeng Gao 写道:
>
>> 比如说什么符号?
>>
>> ---
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> Sincerely Yours,
>>
>> Xiaofeng Gao, PH.D.(高晓沨)
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>> Shanghai Jiao Tong University
>> Email: gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn [3]
>> Office: Telecom Bldg 3-543 Phone: 021-34207407
>>
>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:17:55 +0800, Zuo Zeng wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
> 能不能把用到的符号,尤其是那种不常见的,集中起来讲下,或者考试的时候可以问?
>>>
>>> 在 2012年6月7日 下午1:47,Xiaofeng Gao 写道:
>>>
>>>> 各位同学,
>>>>
>>>> 为了方便大家复习,本课程课件特别制作了Compact
>>>> Print
>>>> Version,大家可以去课程主页相应位置下载。
>>>
>>
> 另,今天收到通知,英语班的课本应统一退还给陈芸老师,故请大家自行组织将课本直接给陈老师,不需要在考试时候还给我。
>>>
>>>> Lab 5和Lab
>>>
>>
> 6的答案将于明天送至班长魏晅中处,请大家联系班长复印。
>>>
>>>> stant Professor
>>>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>>>> Shanghai Jiao Tong University
>>>> Email: gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn [1] [1]
>>>>
>>>> Office: Telecom Bldg 3-543 Phone: 021-34207407
>>>>
>>>> Links:
>>>> ------
>>>> [1] mailto:gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn [2]
>>>> [2] mailto:
>>> f...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn" target="_blank">gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] mailto:gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn
> [2] mailto:gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn
> [3] mailto:gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn
> [4] mailto:gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn

js05212

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Jun 10, 2012, 1:45:10 AM6/10/12
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老师辛苦啦~
 
问下questionlist中第七章的5(e)中,\phi_x\neq 0 的含义是‘\phi_x is total and \phi_x \neq \mathbf{0}’还是只是‘\phi_x \neq \mathbf{0}’呢?
 
 
2012-06-10

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Xiaofeng Gao

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Jun 10, 2012, 2:15:41 AM6/10/12
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不需要total这个条件,只要\neq 0就可以了。


On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:45:10 +0800, js05212 wrote:
> 老师辛苦啦~
>
> 问下questionlist中第七章的5(e)中,phi_xneq 0
> 的含义是‘phi_x is total and phi_x neq
> mathbf{0}’还是只是‘phi_x neq mathbf{0}’呢?
>
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> 2012-06-10 02:54
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Xiaofeng Gao

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Jun 10, 2012, 3:19:17 AM6/10/12
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CheckList第4页表格中{x: \phi_x=\mathbf{0}}不是r.e. set,应该更正为{x: \phi_x(x)=0}

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Email: gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn

银月游侠

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Jun 10, 2012, 4:34:20 AM6/10/12
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那请问正下方的不等于0的那个是不是也要改?

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在 2012-6-10,15:33,"Xiaofeng Gao" <gao...@cs.sjtu.edu.cn> 写到:

CHEN Xilun

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Jun 10, 2012, 4:48:52 AM6/10/12
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目测那个是对的啊

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Xiaofeng Gao

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Jun 10, 2012, 4:35:40 AM6/10/12
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是的。

银月游侠

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Jun 10, 2012, 4:54:26 AM6/10/12
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我现在有点糊涂了,那意思就是productive的集合的补集不一定是r.e.的?
顺便再问一下,是不是所有的集合要么是r.e.要么是productive?

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在 2012-6-10,16:49,"CHEN Xilun" <chenxl....@gmail.com> 写到:

CHEN Xilun

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Jun 10, 2012, 4:59:07 AM6/10/12
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productive的补集不一定r.e.啊
比如total和not total

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js05212

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Jun 10, 2012, 5:41:36 AM6/10/12
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请问下如果两个set是effectively recursively inseparable,是不是就意味着他们也是recursively inseparable呢?如果是的话那么Questionlist Chapter 7-17(c)为什么是分别是分别证明的呢?
 
 
2012-06-10

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CHEN Xilun

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Jun 10, 2012, 5:51:45 AM6/10/12
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我觉得是反过来啊,如果都不recursively separable,就更不能effectively separable了啊

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js05212

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Jun 10, 2012, 5:56:06 AM6/10/12
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逆否命题?
所以结论是对的吗?
 
 
2012-06-10

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CHEN Xilun

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Jun 10, 2012, 6:21:21 AM6/10/12
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不对……似乎我说的不对,还是你说的那个对~

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js05212

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Jun 10, 2012, 7:14:43 AM6/10/12
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‘如果都不recursively separable,就更不能effectively separable了’不对?
 
2012-06-10

js05212

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Xilun Chen

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Jun 10, 2012, 8:15:15 AM6/10/12
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‘如果都不recursively separable,就更不能effectively separable了’ 
的意思不就是recursively inseparable则effectively recursively inseparable了吗?所以我说反了

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js05212

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Jun 11, 2012, 7:03:16 AM6/11/12
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请问r.e. T-degree是不是不一定只包含r.e. set呢?还是一定只包含r.e. set?
 
2012-06-11

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Xiaofeng Gao

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Jun 11, 2012, 11:56:27 PM6/11/12
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统一回答一下:

1、请问r.e. T-degree是不是不一定只包含r.e. set呢?还是一定只包含r.e. set?
-------------------------> r.e. T-degree一定只包含r.e. set

2、请问下如果两个set是effectively recursively inseparable,是不是就意味着他们也是recursively
inseparable呢?----------------------------> 是的。e.r.i可以推出r.i.

如果是的话那么Questionlist Chapter
7-17(c)为什么是分别是分别证明的呢?----------------------->你也可以只证明e.r.i,然后证明e.r.i.=>r.i.

3、{x|\phi_x \neq 0}和{x|\phi_x(x)\neq 0}都是productive set.

另,明天大家考完试请先不要离开,趁所有人都在想和你们照张合照(本课程唯二的全勤就是期中考试+期末考试……┭┮﹏┭┮)

CHEN Xilun

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Jun 12, 2012, 12:12:14 AM6/12/12
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K和\overline{K}不是属于同一个T degree的吗?
为什么r.e. Tdegree只包含r.e. set?

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Xiaofeng Gao

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Jun 12, 2012, 12:50:57 AM6/12/12
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嗯,1题是我写的不对,应该是

对任意 r.e. T-degree of set A,它包含的set不一定都是r.e. set,但是一定都是A-r.e. set。

谢谢Xilun修正。

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Xiaofeng Gao

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Jun 12, 2012, 8:10:36 AM6/12/12
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Lab 5的4(a)答案有误,必须保证 x \in W_x iff f(x) \in E_{f(x)},而不是f(x) \in
E_x。因此可以设

f(x,y)=y if x \in W_x, otherwise diverge. Then by s-m-n theorem we can
easily get the m-reduction.

谢谢罗珞订正。
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