So, is this project dead too?

[John Vance]

Sitemesh 2 is nuked. Opensymphony.com is gone. There doesn't appear
to be any official download site for Sitemesh 2.x any more.
OpenSymphony's svn repository doesn't contain Sitemesh 2.x source.
Maybe it's still available in some Maven repo - I haven't checked yet.

This project (Sitemesh 3) has been stagnant as far as I can tell since
February 7. It is dead? You really should tell us straight up.
Maybe the Grails project could spare some manpower if you guys aren't
finding the time, since Sitemesh seems to be a significant dependency
for them.

John Vance

[Joe Walnes]

It's not dead, it's just very very slow. My priorities are elsewhere at the moment, and I sure could use the additional manpower. Bring it on...

[Andre-John Mas]

A few questions:

  - to facilitate contribution and temporary forking, would you be willing to have this hosted on github?

  - what are the current priorities and direction, for which you need help?

André-John

Sent from my phone. Envoyé depuis mon téléphone. 

[Christian Grobmeier]

Andre,

>   - to facilitate contribution and temporary forking, would you be willing
> to have this hosted on github?

it is already on Github:
https://github.com/sitemesh/sitemesh3/tree/

As Sitemesh is licensed under ASL2.0 and Sitemesh 2 is used in Struts
2, I am pretty sure the Apache Incubator would be an option too.

http.//incubator.apache.org

In this case I would be willing to help with incubation.

Let me know.

Cheers,
Christian

>   - what are the current priorities and direction, for which you need help?
>
> André-John
> Sent from my phone. Envoyé depuis mon téléphone.
> On 2011-06-16, at 21:34, Joe Walnes <j...@walnes.com> wrote:
>
> It's not dead, it's just very very slow. My priorities are elsewhere at the
> moment, and I sure could use the additional manpower. Bring it on...
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:11 PM, John Vance <adogapani...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sitemesh 2 is nuked.  Opensymphony.com is gone.  There doesn't appear
>> to be any official download site for Sitemesh 2.x any more.
>> OpenSymphony's svn repository doesn't contain Sitemesh 2.x source.
>> Maybe it's still available in some Maven repo - I haven't checked yet.
>>
>> This project (Sitemesh 3) has been stagnant as far as I can tell since
>> February 7.  It is dead?  You really should tell us straight up.
>> Maybe the Grails project could spare some manpower if you guys aren't
>> finding the time, since Sitemesh seems to be a significant dependency
>> for them.
>>
>> John Vance
>

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[Colin Harrington]

Aren't these the official repos now?

https://github.com/sitemesh/sitemesh2
https://github.com/sitemesh/sitemesh3

So now that Opensymphony is down that means that the website for sitemesh2 is offline.  Any backups that could be restored somewhere else?

Colin Harrington
colin.ha...@gmail.com

[Joe Walnes]

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Andre-John Mas <andrej...@gmail.com> wrote:

A few questions:

  - to facilitate contribution and temporary forking, would you be willing to have this hosted on github?

Yes. Here it is: https://github.com/sitemesh

 

  - what are the current priorities and direction, for which you need help?

There are two strands to the project:

1. Resurrect SiteMesh 2 website and downloads. I expect there will be few updates to SM2 in the future (except bug fixes), but it has a large userbase already and since java.net screwed us over, we've had no downloads. 

2. Write docs, tutorials, create a website, and a release process for SM3. The code is in good state and I'm happy for a 3.0 release. Just need to get all the things around it sorted.

For both of these strands we also need a pool of dedicated contributors who can respond to user questions, investigate bugs, and generally drive the project forward.

-j

[Joe Walnes]

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Colin Harrington <colin.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Aren't these the official repos now?

https://github.com/sitemesh/sitemesh2

https://github.com/sitemesh/sitemesh3

Yep.

 

So now that Opensymphony is down that means that the website for sitemesh2 is offline.  Any backups that could be restored somewhere else?

https://github.com/sitemesh/sitemesh-website

Tin Pham is currently working on porting these old docs over to a Confluence instance.

[Jeff Jensen]

> 2. Write docs, tutorials, create a website, and a release process for SM3.
> The code is in good state and I'm happy for a 3.0 release. Just need to get
> all the things around it sorted.

Yes, I have an app in production and another couple in progress using
SM3! Looking forward to its release... :-)

It wonderfully looks like there are a number of volunteers (including
me) to help get SM3 released. Random acts do make progress, but
sometimes it's advisable to have coordination of tasks so we can
clearly take ownership and execute. Are all items meant by "all the
things around it" in the github tracker?

[John Vance]

I am VERY happy to see that Sitemesh 3 is still active. I did notice
recent comments on the alpha-2 tag after I posted.

I might be able to help with documentation. I have a passable grasp
of English.

BTW - this site: https://mypnm.com is using Sitemesh 3. I'm not sure
I can get permission from corporate to let you guys list it, but I
thought you'd like to know. And yes it's ugly, but you should have
seen it in all of its nested tables, gif spacers and font tag glory
beforehand.

On Jun 17, 7:55 am, Jeff Jensen <jjen...@apache.org> wrote:
> > 2. Write docs, tutorials, create a website, and a release process for SM3.
> > The code is in good state and I'm happy for a 3.0 release. Just need to get
> > all the things around it sorted.
>
> Yes, I have an app in production and another couple in progress using
> SM3!  Looking forward to its release...  :-)
>
> It wonderfully looks like there are a number of volunteers (including
> me) to help get SM3 released.  Random acts do make progress, but
> sometimes it's advisable to have coordination of tasks so we can
> clearly take ownership and execute.  Are all items meant by "all the
> things around it" in the github tracker?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Joe Walnes <j...@walnes.com> wrote:
>

> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Andre-John Mas <andrejohn....@gmail.com>

[Andre-John Mas]

In many ways java.net screwed itself over and then screwed everyone as a result. It really doesn't seem to be well maintained these days, based on some recent experience.

I will help where I can, but it won't be anything major.

One thing I would like to do is add both sitemesh 2 and sitemesh 3 (when it becomes available) to IvyRoundup, for people using ivy. Are the releases disted anywhere?

BTW since you are on github, how about adding a README or README.md to the base of the repos for have inline documentation. Examples:

https://github.com/cowtowncoder/java-uuid-generator
https://github.com/unconed/TermKit

I can try to put something together and pass it by you if you wish.

Andre

[Richard L. Burton III]

To Joe's earlier statement, I really would love to allocate more time to SiteMesh, but my current engagements with my clients and personal project (www.CrewBuyer.com) are really consuming around 18-20 hours a day for me.  

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-Richard L. Burton III