viewed_by

[Melvin Carvalho]

I've been looking for a term which has become increasingly popular in social systems to see who has viewed what.

Sioc already has : http://rdfs.org/sioc/ns#num_views

But I was unable to find "viewed_by" or "read_by"

Perhaps something that could be added or extended?

[Breslin, John]

That's a great idea Melvin – I've added it to additions for next version, which I need to make soon!!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xdoKtjx9g-izDJE4pHFnRy9pEjodgTmuZcvDlyQ7xY8/edit#

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[Melvin Carvalho]

On 9 March 2015 at 22:46, Breslin, John <john.b...@nuigalway.ie> wrote:

That's a great idea Melvin – I've added it to additions for next version, which I need to make soon!!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xdoKtjx9g-izDJE4pHFnRy9pEjodgTmuZcvDlyQ7xY8/edit#

Thanks!

[Uldis Bojars]

A great idea, indeed! :)

To all: any other changes that SIOC might need?

Uldis

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 10 March 2015 at 00:55, Uldis Bojars <capt...@gmail.com> wrote:

A great idea, indeed! :)

To all: any other changes that SIOC might need?

I'd like to see chat rooms, which are becoming more popular these days, modelled.  Is SIOC the right place?

I think ChatChannel is already there and may fit the bill.  There is an InstantMessage class too.

However what's missing is a roster.  Sometimes a user will be part of a thread without ever having typed a message.

Is there a way in SIOC to do something like "member" or "has_participant" etc.

[Alexandre Passant]

We can probably reuse http://www.w3.org/Submission/sioc-spec/#term_has_member here?

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[Melvin Carvalho]

On 11 March 2015 at 12:02, Alexandre Passant <al...@seevl.fm> wrote:

We can probably reuse http://www.w3.org/Submission/sioc-spec/#term_has_member here?

Got it.  Thanks

So would I have to go:

1. ChatChannel -> UserGroup -> has_member

2. ChatChannel -> has_meber

3. Other

[☮ elf Pavlik ☮]

I see it very relevant to work done in W3C Social WG/IG on Activity
Streams 2.0 Vocabulary
* http://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-read

As well as schema.org
* http://schema.org/ReadAction

In schema.org github you can find issue related to interactions and
counters for them:
* https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/137

I would think of *read_by* as a container with members of type
"ReadAction" and num_reads as count of its members...

HTH

[Melvin Carvalho]

So it looks like this term didnt quite make it.

Is there a summary of the thought process behind this?

I prefer the shapes in sioc th thos in activity streams.

 

HTH

[Melvin Carvalho]

On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 at 12:51, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetua...@wwelves.org> wrote:

This is not like for like :

{
  "@context": "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",
  "summary": "Sally read a blog post",
  "type": "Read",
  "actor": {
    "type": "Person",
    "name": "Sally"
  },
  "object": "http://example.org/posts/1"
}

Is the example in activity streams, which is a completely different use case.

The Read Class use case, as covered above is something in an activity stream.  For example you click on facebook and it says "Dan just liked your Post" -- thats an activity.  Its a time oriented list of actions.

The time invariant version of this would be Post is liked by soic : num_views people, liked_by : Dan, Elf, Alice

I'm noticing the same issue in schema.org -- i tried to find a bookmark item.  Easy, you'd think right?  But no, it only has a BookmarkAction -- which is like a BookmarkActivty.

I think it's worth delineating these two use cases.

As such, would it be possible to get viewed_by back on the radar, or would you recommend finding a home for it elsewhere?