>This post may not be interesting to many readers. But those who
>have listened to Bengali Adhunik (contemporary) songs , this may
>be relevant. I am going to list some Bengali songs whose tune was
>later given to Hindi film songs.
The definitive source for Salil tunes is the Salil site by Gautam Chowdhury. It
contains a matrix for pretty much every song composed by Salil in each
language.According to the same site the following versions exist formadbhari ye hawAyen(anokha daan - '71)/harusha doorada mEru (samshayaphala - '71)Aar kichhu naai money - '80 - Sabita Chowdhury
Eni varu (Devadasi) - '80 - Sabita Chowdhuryso the answer is no :)Don't know of a commercial release of the Hindi version. Kannada version of
course is readily availble. I am a little partial to the Kannada version here,
though Lata has done a great job too. I haven't heard the Bengali and Malayalam
versions.Of course the other song in Samshayaphala - dooradinda bandanta (L.R.Eswari)
is *so* superior to the Hindi "original" naam mera nimmo (Lata, Manna et al),
it makes one think as to what prompted Salil to use Lata there, making the
song absolutely lifeless!!!A related query, Dinesh. Do you know the details of the Kannada version of the
Minoo ('77) songkaali re, kaali re tu to kaali kaali reI have a vague recollection this is also sung by Antara, as in the Hindi version.
A rare case where Gautam's site doesn't list the Kannada version.- Balaji
You are right about me not mentioning the kannada version of the song 'O
kali re kali re'. Well spotted !
Actually I forgot and that may not be the only one. People like you are
helping me to correct my website on a regular basis.
The kannada version of 'kali re kali re' is the song 'on ujaala sarala' from
the film 'Onde rupa eraduguna' sung by Mohan and S. Janaki.
I have corrected the link now.
Thanks.
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pa pa ma ga re sa something something
da da pa ma ga re something something
(Lata/Bengali )I don't remember who has sung the kannada version of it. I vaguely remember
it to be a duet but could be wrong. Does anyone know which one came first?A
I have quite a number of Bengali songs, listed at this post.
I am looking for THREE songs, which I don't have. Can someone
please give information, as to : Which TAPE or CD TITLE or
SINGER / ARTIST'S COMPILATION, I can find these songs:
1 Bengali: O Re Grahabasi Kho Dawar
Tagore Composition Adopted in Hindi: Rahi Matwale, Tu Chhed Ik Baar / Talat +
Suraiya, Film: Waris / Anil Biswas
2 Bengali: He Khoniker Atithi
Tagore Composition Adopted in Hindi (not sure, since I haven't heard this song,
but it was listed at this post, in the first
message) Jayen To Jayen ahan / Talat or Lata (two
versions), Film: Taxi Driver / S D Burman Also need confirmation that the Bengali song is a Tagore Composition 3 Jodi Tare Chini Go Seki
Tagore Composition Adopted in Hindi: Tere Mere Milan Ki Yeh Raina / Kishore + Lata
Fim: Abhimaan / S D Burman Need Confirmation that this is a Tagore Composition. I have
this song in Bengali, but don't remember the name of the singer
ThanksSudhir
> 'Pa ma ga re sa' in bengali was sung by Lata in 1971 I have always been surpised and amazed by the
genius of Salil Chowdhury, and the brilliance
with which he Indianized western compositions
such as Mozart's Symphony #40(ok..everybody knows
which Hindi song this is:), Beethoven's Fur
Elise in the title music for Chhaya and the signature
tune of Limelight in Rafi's "zindagi hai kya
sun meri jaan, pyaar bhara dlil mitthi zubaan"
from Maya and so on. And I have always wondered whether
the song under discussion here; namely "pa ma
ga re sa" has been inspired by the opening
notes of the 'Come September' theme which also
goes "pa ma ga re sa"...any ideas/comments...
Gautamda, anyone?-Prithviraj
It's about SDB, and has a list of SDB's Bengali songs, (which you can 'click and
play' if you have real audio). You can easily spot the corresponding Hindi songs
at least for some of them.- Narendra
> Well, if you really compare the first 4 notes of Pa ma ga re and the first
> four notes of 'come september' then I guess you can say that they are the
> same. I, however, feel that the song 'come september' is quite different. To
> start with listen to the structure of Pa ma ga re sa - the next line starts
> with the lyric 'taar chokher...' and the word 'taar' starts with 'sa'. So,
> the note 'sa' repeats. 'Come september' on the other hand starts the melody
> like this: pa-ma ga-re - sa ga pa sa - pa - ma pa sa pa ma pa ..... Besides
> the song stays in the minor key. Pa ma ga re sa on the other hand starts on
> a minor key and then immediately switches to major key on the second line
> thereby creating a wonderful contrast (typical Salil). The rest of the song
> switches between the minor and the major chords. Great stuff...
Thanks for the analysis of the song.
Well, I just wanted to know whether Salil had been inspired by the
_first_five_notes_ of 'Come September' (and not the whole song) in
the _opening_five_notes_ for this Bengali song as both the openings
are identical. And from your reply it seems that might not have been.
> I also feel that Salil was more influenced by the western and Indian
> classical structure than a '60s pop-song which musically didn't offer
> anything new. So, for him to copy the first four notes seems rather far
> fetched to me.
But Salil Chowdhury has indeed been influenced by contemporary pieces;
the theme from the movie "Limelight" and the pop intrumental
"Too much Tequila" both in the Hindi movie 'Maya' are examples.
Anyways, I would abhor the use of the word "copy" in context of
a genius of the stature of Salil Chowdhury.
I was under the impression that Lata sang quite a few Hemanta compositions
for Bengali films. She sang couple of other songs in Monihaar.
Ke janogo dekechhe amay : was a great song.
Jodio Rajani pohalo tobuo ( Lata, Film: Baghini , Music : Hemanta )
There must be more. Hemanta scored for so many Bengali films.
>
> - Dinesh Krishnajois.
vaadaL vaara suTala ga, vaaryaana tuufaan uThala ga (Lata, Hridaynath,
Shanta Shelke)There's also a Bengali version of "jiivalagaa, raahile re duur ghar
maajhe" (Asha, Hridaynath, Shanta Shelke); it goes "jiivalagaa gaa_ichhe
je shuur buujhii naa re" or something to that effect. I believe the
Bengali lyrics are by Salil Chaudhury.-s