I'm trying to model a pipe route in the new MEP modeler in Archicad 27. Unfortunately, I can't enter the pipe slope in any way. There is a field to enter the slope in the infobox, but I can't type anything in it (see attached pic). It can't be done in 2D or 3D. The slope of the pipe cannot be entered either when editing a finished route (I can only manually edit the heights of individual junctions, but this does not allow me to work with a specific slope in %, or I would have to manually calculate the heights).
@Radek_K: Currently this sloping option in tracker is only available for pipe elements, that is why there is no such option for ducts. I'm more than happy to learn about the use cases when you would use this for ducts as well.
Just tried it, and really the only way that seems to work is changing angle of the endpoint, at least in 3D. The slope i can't work out, just wasted whole evening with it and no luck. But they definitely have changed the way how MEP operates. Even the MEP sub menu from drop down menu is gone now. Also noticed i can't edit plumbing done in version 26. When creating a new object, it basically doesn't show even though the routing line or at least points are visible in 2D (see the last pic).
@Balint Kezer I can confirm on macOS Sonoma (I no longer have access to Ventura) that the "Slope" value indicated in the OP is completely non functional in plan or 3D, even stepping through the tracker and adjusting the Z value is not reflected in the "Slope" entry. The lock icon can be changed but it has no effect.
thank you for your reply. I confirm that with locked sloping in tracker works (and is available for both pipes and ducts). It's just that the lock is unlocked by default, so you need to lock it first - I don't know why it's not locked the other way around, since I can't think of any case where it works with the unlocked state. So isn't the lock there kind of redundant? Without it, the user would simply be entering numeric values in the tracker, including the slope. So nowadays it has to be locked first, in which case the tracker (at least for me on macOS) shuts down and needs to be called up again, and only afterwards the slope can to be entered. A few unnecessary clicks.
W/ kind Regards
Martin Rosa
Q2 Yes, I know that can be a bit annoying that the default insulation thicknesses are different for the route element and for the other MEP elements (Branch, Fittings, Terminals, Accessories, Equipment). If you change the default for any of these to match with the others, you will achieve the desired outcome.
I recently opened an existing working file (AC26) in AC27 and apparently all the MEP elements (ducts, pipes, cablings) has been converted into an object instead of its respective MEP elements. This is a huge problem and I cannot continue routing or modifying those MEP elements because they are in an "object" state.
I have read on another thread that the MEP modeler for ArchiCAD 27 has been completely rewritten with a new element structure, thus rendering pre-27 models incompatible. While the pre-27 elements will be converted to simple objects, they are left on a virtual island of obsolescence.
We understand that the recent changes to the MEP functionalities in Archicad may have raised concerns and some of you are not entirely satisfied with the new version. We genuinely appreciate your feedback and concerns, and we'd like to address these points to provide some clarity on our decision of restructure the MEP functionality in Archicad:
We appreciate your patience as we navigate this transition to the new version. While it may come with some limitations, there are also significant improvements. Your feedback is invaluable, and we're committed to enhancing MEP functionalities to better meet your needs.
Please also note that it's not recommended to continue MEP projects started in Archicad 26 in Archicad 27. Your input remains essential in our ongoing efforts to optimize Archicad. Feel free to share your concerns and suggestions as we work to make it even better.
The disappointed is the loss of production time for our MEP modelers. What is a firm to do with this staff until the new version is released? From the users perspective it really appears to be insufficient testing and a deficit in quality assurance before product release. What was the point of releasing an evaluation version of the software if the discoveries were not addressed? An incomplete package is really useless for us. The software will sit dormant until a complete package is provided...
Thanks for your sharing your view! I'm grateful for all the comments and suggestion we have received during the Beta and Technology Preview periods and we also managed to solve quite a few bugs and implement a few improvements that time. I also understand that for some purpose, especially for serious MEP modeling the current solution is not up to standards. This is the reason that we are planning significant developments in an update before the next version.
Even for minor/simple MEP modeling this solution is an unreliable half-baked implementation and absolutely incomplete feature with no clear explanation of how to reasonably transition and no backwards compatibility. Listen to your users needs. Please keep your beta items in beta until they are actually complete in function.
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