Invitation to Join the SRB Facebook Group

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Zack Yap

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Sep 9, 2012, 8:51:36 AM9/9/12
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Hi all!

Facebook groups have been great for discussions and sharing of resources so I set one up.

It's an open group so as Uncle Ben would say... 
With great power comes great responsibility. 

Let's make sure the group's for good ol' Ruby sharing and discussions. :)
aka let's not spam

Cheers!

Paul Gallagher

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Sep 9, 2012, 10:46:12 AM9/9/12
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herm, not a fan of splitting the conversation across many channels without open reconciliation. So now we have a google group, meetup, and facebook. whatever, I'll follow the community whereever..

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Sau Sheong Chang

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Sep 9, 2012, 11:52:59 AM9/9/12
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I'm for sticking with the Google Groups for ongoing conversations, and Meetup for the meetup announcements. Not really in favor of the Facebook Group, not sure how that'll give more to us than what we already have. But I'll go with the community if that's what everyone thinks is best.

Roy Wang

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Sep 9, 2012, 10:01:40 PM9/9/12
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Seems excessive.

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Jason Ong

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Sep 9, 2012, 10:33:02 PM9/9/12
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I too has resisted the idea of FB group til I saw those lively activities from the other user groups on FB. Let's give it a shot. If it doesn't work we can close it or maybe the next wave of ruby folks would enjoy the discussions on FB better.
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Andy Croll

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Sep 10, 2012, 9:38:31 AM9/10/12
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I struggle to work out which of Google Groups or Facebook I dislike more...

The meetup thing, I paid for from the conference profit, to have a more active platform to reach out and poke everyone when we're having a meet up. That was my only intention.


I feel like meetup has its issues as well... The commenting and discussions (even the image resizing) are pretty crappy.: someone could build an open source 'meetup' management service. There's a nice little project for someone :-)

Andy

Paul Gallagher

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Sep 10, 2012, 10:03:04 AM9/10/12
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btw Andy - thanks for funding meetup from the conference takings. I now find I'm in 4 meetup groups in Singapore, and I can start to see it work quite well. The discussions/mailing list aspect is the one part that is only now just starting to fire.

I think we just see for a bit how this all shakes out.

But it's interesting that we are discussing all this in the google group;-)

And I shudder a little when imagining a future where this all takes place in Facebook. OK perhaps if you are a .net user group .. but not for the kind of ruby folks I know;-)

Cheers,
Paul

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Keith Bennett

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Sep 10, 2012, 11:27:49 AM9/10/12
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All -

I'm just an outsider, but here's my take on all this...

Discussion is the life blood of a virtual group, and as such its home should be very carefully chosen.

Meetup's discussion features are limited, and are IMO inadequate for an active technical group.

Facebook reminds me of the time I was in a tiger park in Chiang Mai
(photo at http://www.bbs-software.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tiger-kingdom-73.jpg).
Sure, you can hang out with a tiger from time to time, but who's to tell when it's
going to turn on you?  At the heart of it, I guess I don't trust Facebook.

I like being able to read and reply to the messages via email, where I have
a plethora of client applications from which to choose.  Heck, there's probably a way to
read Google Group messages on a text only terminal.  (There are definitely text mode
nntp readers, but I think most Google Groups these days are not Usenet groups,
to avoid spam.)

Google is a behemoth enterprise like Facebook, but I feel they're more conscientious and trustworthy than Facebook.

I realize that some of these opinions are subjective, based on feelings rather than thorough objective examination, but my preference is Google Groups.

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Carl Coryell-Martin

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Sep 11, 2012, 2:15:32 AM9/11/12
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I'm unexcited about moving this discussion to facebook, I don't like
that people can invite me to facebook groups willy-nilly and I
suddenly start getting a mess of facebook email. I can probably find a
setting to turn that off, but I haven't bothered.

I'll survive if that's what we have to do.

-ccm

Jia Hen Tee

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Sep 11, 2012, 2:18:58 AM9/11/12
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Maybe Zack is doing a startup and he need to validate "ruby developer would want to use facebook as a platform to communicate?". Haha.

Andras Kristof

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Sep 11, 2012, 5:29:15 AM9/11/12
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I don't think discussions would be livelier on FB than on Google now. It is like my todo applications: All of them are adequate, and they are as useful as the information I put in :)

If there is a feature that we are missing that is offered by FB, then it's good. If not, then it won't make a difference. 

I have my FB notification emails switched off. Since my primary method of consumption of the RB list is by emails, I will probably miss out on many of the topics.

Andras

Luther Goh Lu Feng

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Sep 11, 2012, 5:47:53 AM9/11/12
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I would like to share my observations about the usage of FB groups versus google groups for online tech communities

HackerspaceSG has an google group and facebook group. Both groups are actively used and it seems that discussions on both are quite different and by different groups of people.

Python Users have a google group which is quiet now and have 2 active FB groups: Singapore Python Users Group and Singapore Python Platoon. 

iOS Dev scout has a google group which is quiet now and has an active FB group too.

There probably isn't a one size fits all solution as of yet. Why not have both facebook and google groups and let them grow organically?




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Andras Kristof

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Sep 11, 2012, 5:51:12 AM9/11/12
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Why not have both facebook and google groups and let them grow organically?

Of course. I have no problem with that.

Sau Sheong Chang

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Sep 11, 2012, 9:43:54 AM9/11/12
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Chill. It's only a discussion forum :) Black cat or white cat ...

Aen Tan

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Sep 11, 2012, 6:11:49 AM9/11/12
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Stick to email if you guys want to remain developer-centric and close-knit. Extend your reach if you guys want to do more ambitious things and evangelism.

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Gideon Simons

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Sep 13, 2012, 2:22:58 AM9/13/12
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How about a vote or a survey?

Gideon
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Zishuang Cheng

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Oct 8, 2012, 5:33:45 AM10/8/12
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Hey guys,

I'm looking for talented ROR developers to hire for in-house work. So do drop me a line if anyone is interested in meeting up for a chat ! Or if anyone wants to chat about this. 

Cheers
Zishuang
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