SimOne RS232 cable schematic

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nuccio raciti

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:51:40 AM12/4/09
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Hi all,

the right cable schematic is:

RJ45(MALE) DB9 (FEMALE)

RTS 1 8 CTS
DTR 2 6 DSR
TX 3 2 RX
GND 4 5 GND
GND 5 5 GND
RX 6 3 TX
DSR 7 4 DTR
CTS 8 7 RTS

Sergio told me that whoever needs it can write to him privately,
in any case the fix that I proposed here:
http://sim1.googlegroups.com/web/SimOne+RS232+Cable.JPG
works fine.

Ciao,
Nuccio

sergio.sorrenti

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Dec 4, 2009, 5:37:14 AM12/4/09
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Sorry,

we made a mistake wiring the RS232 cables...
Pls observe this new pinout from Nuccio to make
a new RS232 cable for Sim.One
or to repatch the old one.

Who don't have an Ethernet Crimper,
or don't have the time to do it
and need a new cable, pls write to me privately,
i'll ship one by priority post together with an
useful (i hope) MicroSD HC reader.

Now we are working for a Fix
of the USB Disconnect problem.
Pls wait for more news...

Sergio

Yann E. MORIN

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Dec 6, 2009, 12:55:52 PM12/6/09
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Hello!

On Dec 4, 10:51 am, nuccio raciti <raciti.nuc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> RJ45(MALE)                     DB9 (FEMALE)
>
> RTS    1                            8  CTS
> DTR    2                            6  DSR
> TX       3                            2  RX
> GND    4                            5  GND
> GND    5                            5  GND
> RX       6                            3  TX
> DSR    7                            4  DTR
> CTS     8                            7  RTS

I'm doing another cable, but I am unsure which pin is pin-1 on the
RJ45. I've tried to trace the tracks on the layout, and I think I made
out pin-8 to the one closest to the power socket, which would imply
pin-1 is the one closest to the ethernet port. Is that right?

> in any case the fix that I proposed here:http://sim1.googlegroups.com/web/SimOne+RS232+Cable.JPG

OK. I tried to severe the cable as per your example, and I can see the
console now! :-)
Unfortunately, I may have severed the cable a little bit too much , as
the Sim.One does not receive any input. I will check when I have my
new cable build (will get the tools tomorrow).

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

sergio.sorrenti

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Dec 7, 2009, 3:47:50 PM12/7/09
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> I'm doing another cable, but I am unsure which pin is pin-1 on the
> RJ45.

This image show front & top of the RJ-45 connector with pin numbers:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/RJ45.svg

Sergio

Yann E. MORIN

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Dec 18, 2009, 6:56:13 PM12/18/09
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Hello All!

On Monday 07 December 2009 21:47:50 sergio.sorrenti wrote:
> > I'm doing another cable, but I am unsure which pin is pin-1 on the
> > RJ45.

I was bit skeptical about my own understanding on the wiring. My first
interrogation was about the RJ45 wiring: is TX on the RJ45 to be
interpreted as "TX from sim.one", or "connect to TX on PC side". Yeah,
the question sounds stupid, and I may pass for a noob, but I found the
answer neither on the schematics, nor on the wiki (maybe I missed it
somehow).

My second interrogation was wether all of the DTR/CTS/RTS/... stuff was
realy required. In my (humble) experience, I always used only a three-wire
serial cable, and all was always OK.

So, I made my cable (took a bit of a time, I am a bit clumsy), and wanted
to print it black-on-white, so others will find the answer. So:
- TX on the Sim.One side means "TX from Sim.One" and we need a so-called
NULL-modem cable, not a straight one
- only TX/RX and GND are required
- I used a standard 8-wire Cat5e cable
- I used a different wire for each of the GND signals on the RJ45, this is
supposed to offer better noise isolation (but at 57600, who cares?)
- those two wires got tied together to the single GND signal on the DB9
- I used a DB9 with a cover and a 'blocker' to relieve the soldering from
any strain (traction & bending) applied to the cable

RJ45, Sim.One side
Pin# Signal name Cable colour
1 RTS brown
2 DTR brown/white
3 TX green
4 GND green/white
5 GND blue
6 RX blue/white
7 DSR orange
8 CTS orange/white

DB9, PC side
Pin# Signal name Cable colour
1 DCD N/C
2 RX green
3 TX blue/white
4 DTR N/C
5 GND green/white + blue
6 DSR N/C
7 RTS N/C
8 CTS N/C
9 RI N/C

Briefly, it is:
RJ45 DB9
3 <---> 2
6 <---> 3
4 <---> 5
5 <---> 5

The signals are N/C (not connected) on the DB9 side, as it is much easier
to solder/de-solder on the DB9, than it is to add/remove a wire in an RJ45!

Of course, change the colours accordingly to how you fit the wires in your
RJ45 connector! :-)

Hope this will be helpfull to anyone.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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