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Jake
Feb 6, 2012, 10:30:00 PM2/6/12
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Hi All,
Just ran across this group whilst researching tech start up stuff in
Australia and thought I might jump in and say Hi.
I was hoping someone here might have some advice on a good place to
find good tech people interested in co-founding a start-up (when I say
"good" I mean talented programmers with the entrepreneurial spirit,
not someone who will help an old lady cross the street).
As a web developer I have had my fair share of "I have a great idea
for a website, if you build it for me for free I will give you shares"
requests and I assure you that's not what I here for. Really I am
just keen on speaking to people that are better coders than me that
might be looking for a project to work on.
Anyways, if that sounds like you, or you know of someone that fits
that description hit me up at ja...@bricktrack.co.
Cheers,
Jake.
Just ran across this group whilst researching tech start up stuff in
Australia and thought I might jump in and say Hi.
I was hoping someone here might have some advice on a good place to
find good tech people interested in co-founding a start-up (when I say
"good" I mean talented programmers with the entrepreneurial spirit,
not someone who will help an old lady cross the street).
As a web developer I have had my fair share of "I have a great idea
for a website, if you build it for me for free I will give you shares"
requests and I assure you that's not what I here for. Really I am
just keen on speaking to people that are better coders than me that
might be looking for a project to work on.
Anyways, if that sounds like you, or you know of someone that fits
that description hit me up at ja...@bricktrack.co.
Cheers,
Jake.
Rai
Feb 6, 2012, 10:34:25 PM2/6/12
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Just the event for you coming up on the 20th of Feb.
Cofounder speed dating http://cofounderspeeddate-estw.eventbrite.com/
Rai
Cofounder speed dating http://cofounderspeeddate-estw.eventbrite.com/
Rai
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Ryan Wardell
Feb 6, 2012, 10:39:15 PM2/6/12
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You could try Cofounder Speed Date. We're running an event on Monday 20th Feb to connect business and technical cofounders. It's a massive problem in the startup community and we're doing our best to address it.
You're right though, good coders get pitched ideas all the time, and most of them suck. We're looking at introducing a few quality control mechanisms (such as screening potential attendees or having them rated by their peers) to cut out the time wasters.
You could also try some of the developer meetups. Ruby on Rails is on tonight, and SyPy was on last week. There are some really talented coders who go along to those things, plus they usually have google groups set up as well.
http://cofounderspeeddate.com.au/
You're right though, good coders get pitched ideas all the time, and most of them suck. We're looking at introducing a few quality control mechanisms (such as screening potential attendees or having them rated by their peers) to cut out the time wasters.
You could also try some of the developer meetups. Ruby on Rails is on tonight, and SyPy was on last week. There are some really talented coders who go along to those things, plus they usually have google groups set up as well.
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Jake <brick...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ryan Wardell
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Haha, cheers Rai!
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David Lyon
Feb 7, 2012, 2:28:50 AM2/7/12
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Hello,
What is the business idea exactly?
Jake
Feb 8, 2012, 11:30:29 PM2/8/12
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Thank Rai, I'm in Melbourne (which seems to be the wrong place for
tech startups at the moment) but appreciate the link.
On Feb 7, 2:34 pm, Rai <dekraz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just the event for you coming up on the 20th of Feb.
> Cofounder speed datinghttp://cofounderspeeddate-estw.eventbrite.com/
tech startups at the moment) but appreciate the link.
On Feb 7, 2:34 pm, Rai <dekraz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just the event for you coming up on the 20th of Feb.
>
> Rai
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Jake <bricktr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
>
> > Just ran across this group whilst researching tech start up stuff in
> > Australia and thought I might jump in and say Hi.
>
> > I was hoping someone here might have some advice on a good place to
> > find good tech people interested in co-founding a start-up (when I say
> > "good" I mean talented programmers with the entrepreneurial spirit,
> > not someone who will help an old lady cross the street).
>
> > As a web developer I have had my fair share of "I have a great idea
> > for a website, if you build it for me for free I will give you shares"
> > requests and I assure you that's not what I here for. Really I am
> > just keen on speaking to people that are better coders than me that
> > might be looking for a project to work on.
>
> > Anyways, if that sounds like you, or you know of someone that fits
> > that description hit me up at j...@bricktrack.co.
> Rai
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Jake <bricktr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
>
> > Just ran across this group whilst researching tech start up stuff in
> > Australia and thought I might jump in and say Hi.
>
> > I was hoping someone here might have some advice on a good place to
> > find good tech people interested in co-founding a start-up (when I say
> > "good" I mean talented programmers with the entrepreneurial spirit,
> > not someone who will help an old lady cross the street).
>
> > As a web developer I have had my fair share of "I have a great idea
> > for a website, if you build it for me for free I will give you shares"
> > requests and I assure you that's not what I here for. Really I am
> > just keen on speaking to people that are better coders than me that
> > might be looking for a project to work on.
>
> > Anyways, if that sounds like you, or you know of someone that fits
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Jake.
>
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> > Jake.
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Nigel Sheridan-Smith
Feb 8, 2012, 11:42:51 PM2/8/12
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Theoretically, someone motivated in Melbourne could also nominate a time and place for co-founder speed dating.
Meet at Pub X at date and time Y...
Takes <5 mins of organization work, until the actual event... :)
It just depends on whether you can attract enough business co-founders to match up with the tech ones.
I'd probably also name-tag people with what their interest areas are, such as {enterprise, consumer}, {education, medical, ...} so its easier to find people who you want to work with.
Cheers,
Nigel
Meet at Pub X at date and time Y...
Takes <5 mins of organization work, until the actual event... :)
It just depends on whether you can attract enough business co-founders to match up with the tech ones.
I'd probably also name-tag people with what their interest areas are, such as {enterprise, consumer}, {education, medical, ...} so its easier to find people who you want to work with.
Cheers,
Nigel
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Ryan Wardell
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We're actually looking at expanding the event to Melbourne very soon, just need to get the model right in Sydney first. And we even have some people flying up FROM Melbourne, just to attend the event.
I can also say too - while it looks easy pulling an event together, it really is a bit harder than it looks. Especially when you get into the nitty gritty of ensuring that you meet new people each time you go.
I can also say too - while it looks easy pulling an event together, it really is a bit harder than it looks. Especially when you get into the nitty gritty of ensuring that you meet new people each time you go.
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Shane Greenup
Feb 9, 2012, 12:44:16 AM2/9/12
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LOL Yep, I was tempted to comment that it is a bit harder than 5 min worth of "Meet at pub X at time Y" Even a simple event is harder to organise than that, but an event where you are trying to bring two different groups of people together to exchange ideas and get along etc. Doesn't strike me as easy.
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drllau
Feb 21, 2012, 7:20:22 PM2/21/12
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It concerns me when seeking co-founders is reduced to speed-dating.
FACT ...
a) you are business partners til liquidity do thou part (or debt
divides)
b) if you're the type that argues with flatmates, how will you handle
the pressure of 18 hour weeks working out of shed?
c) what is a good match if you don't know your own strengths/
weaknesses?
There's academic work done on what makes a creative team. For example
it can be shown that successful new broadway plays have a 50:50 mix of
old established groups and newcomers. Going into a startup culture,
your best bet is to combine a project team from a prior company (even
if parttime initially) with a selective mix of contractors/interns
until they prove themselves. IMHO, expecting a strong working
relationship from bumping into someone in the pub is akin to putting
an ad on eBay out for Prince Charming.
For people serious interested in how they can maximise their group
forming/storming/norming I'd suggest looking at some of the
psychometric material from a Brisbane mob called Team Management
Systems.
Lawrence
http://nz.linkedin.com/in/drllau
On Feb 9, 6:44 pm, Shane Greenup <s...@1d4.com.au> wrote:
> LOL Yep, I was tempted to comment that it is a bit harder than 5 min worth
> of "Meet at pub X at time Y" Even a simple event is harder to organise than
> that, but an event where you are trying to bring two different groups of
> people together to exchange ideas and get along etc. Doesn't strike me as
> easy.
>
> Shane Greenup
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It concerns me when seeking co-founders is reduced to speed-dating.
FACT ...
a) you are business partners til liquidity do thou part (or debt
divides)
b) if you're the type that argues with flatmates, how will you handle
the pressure of 18 hour weeks working out of shed?
c) what is a good match if you don't know your own strengths/
weaknesses?
There's academic work done on what makes a creative team. For example
it can be shown that successful new broadway plays have a 50:50 mix of
old established groups and newcomers. Going into a startup culture,
your best bet is to combine a project team from a prior company (even
if parttime initially) with a selective mix of contractors/interns
until they prove themselves. IMHO, expecting a strong working
relationship from bumping into someone in the pub is akin to putting
an ad on eBay out for Prince Charming.
For people serious interested in how they can maximise their group
forming/storming/norming I'd suggest looking at some of the
psychometric material from a Brisbane mob called Team Management
Systems.
Lawrence
http://nz.linkedin.com/in/drllau
On Feb 9, 6:44 pm, Shane Greenup <s...@1d4.com.au> wrote:
> LOL Yep, I was tempted to comment that it is a bit harder than 5 min worth
> of "Meet at pub X at time Y" Even a simple event is harder to organise than
> that, but an event where you are trying to bring two different groups of
> people together to exchange ideas and get along etc. Doesn't strike me as
> easy.
>
> Shane Greenup
>
> <http://www.surebetbookies.com/>
>
> On 9 February 2012 16:38, Ryan Wardell <r...@projectpowerup.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > We're actually looking at expanding the event to Melbourne very soon, just
> > need to get the model right in Sydney first. And we even have some people
> > flying up FROM Melbourne, just to attend the event.
>
> > I can also say too - while it looks easy pulling an event together, it
> > really is a bit harder than it looks. Especially when you get into the
> > nitty gritty of ensuring that you meet new people each time you go.
>
> > --
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Ryan Wardell
>
> > CEO & Founder - Project PowerUp
>
> > (W) projectpowerup.com <http://www.projectpowerup.com/>
> On 9 February 2012 16:38, Ryan Wardell <r...@projectpowerup.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > We're actually looking at expanding the event to Melbourne very soon, just
> > need to get the model right in Sydney first. And we even have some people
> > flying up FROM Melbourne, just to attend the event.
>
> > I can also say too - while it looks easy pulling an event together, it
> > really is a bit harder than it looks. Especially when you get into the
> > nitty gritty of ensuring that you meet new people each time you go.
>
> > --
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Ryan Wardell
>
> > CEO & Founder - Project PowerUp
>
>
> > (E) r...@projectpowerup.com
>
> > (M) 0424 591 796
>
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> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Nigel Sheridan-Smith <wtfi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Theoretically, someone motivated in Melbourne could also nominate a time
> >> and place for co-founder speed dating.
>
> >> Meet at Pub X at date and time Y...
>
> >> Takes <5 mins of organization work, until the actual event... :)
>
> >> It just depends on whether you can attract enough business co-founders to
> >> match up with the tech ones.
>
> >> I'd probably also name-tag people with what their interest areas are,
> >> such as {enterprise, consumer}, {education, medical, ...} so its easier to
> >> find people who you want to work with.
>
> >> Cheers,
>
> >> Nigel
>
> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Nigel Sheridan-Smith <wtfi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Theoretically, someone motivated in Melbourne could also nominate a time
> >> and place for co-founder speed dating.
>
> >> Meet at Pub X at date and time Y...
>
> >> Takes <5 mins of organization work, until the actual event... :)
>
> >> It just depends on whether you can attract enough business co-founders to
> >> match up with the tech ones.
>
> >> I'd probably also name-tag people with what their interest areas are,
> >> such as {enterprise, consumer}, {education, medical, ...} so its easier to
> >> find people who you want to work with.
>
> >> Cheers,
>
> >> Nigel
>
Shane Greenup
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Speed dating is just a way to meet. Not a way to Marry....
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Robert Yearsley
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Hi All,
Hi Doc L:)
I know (and support Ryan (ieceman) and Nav in getting Cofounder Speed
Date up and running) - Doc L, suggest you go along and check it out -
finding co-founders is not a systematized process, much of it is about
being @ the right place @ the right time - and chemistry way up the
list of desirable - people work together because they get along, so
'speed dating' is great at quickly finding those possible ehm -
'mates'.
This may be a worthy point of discussion for SB, so Doc L, I'll take
you point by point - and embrace my inner troll with you:) ok.. lets
go:
On Feb 21, 7:20 pm, drllau <drlawrence...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.tms.com.au/hetm.html
>
> It concerns me when seeking co-founders is reduced to speed-dating.
> FACT ...
Ta drlawrence checked out your linkedin link.... hmm - cant see any
startups there - how many co-founders have you successfully /
unsuccessfully found yourself? It is high stakes process and bloody
hard. So on behalf of the 50 or so SB regulars I'm guessing who read
your comment, frowned and moved on, I'm biting - unless you've got
some had data or experience - don't diss those trying to solve the
problem:) Nothing wrong with going on a date... the rest you have to
do yourself. It's all about making the best of the opportunity -
that's why we want to be in a start up in the first place - so dating
seems a pretty natural fit (0.02c). What is lacking (for most of us)
in the process of finding a co-founder is a solid network to find a
quality available dance partner. CDS seems to significantly up the
odds in this department. If you have a better way Doc L. (which you
infer by your concern) I throw down my rusty gauntlet remind you
you're obliged to share your solution with the class.
>
> a) you are business partners til liquidity do thou part (or debt
> divides)
so you're (I'm taking a stab here) suggesting this is a serous
business (co-founding your startup) yeah we get that, because we too
have a powerful need to eat. your point sir?
>
> b) if you're the type that argues with flatmates, how will you handle
> the pressure of 18 hour weeks working out of shed?
I'm 'concerned' about your characterization / put down of those using
speed dating to find a co-founder.. nuf said.
>
> c) what is a good match if you don't know your own strengths/
> weaknesses?
If you have little idea of your strengths and weaknesses ie what you
have to offer, you cant sell yourself. You are a poor choice as a co-
founder. This is no one elses concern (or problem) except your own.
go travel, get some life experience fall in love, get crushed. or Go
to SB drinks religiously talk to as many people as you can about your
idea and get your game face on:) Case in point is Nav (CDS) who was a
wallflower 12 months ago at his first SB drinks - now the guy is co-
running a networking event. Practice makes perfect. (BTW Nav is my co-
founder in another startup. *full disclosure*
>
> There's academic work done on what makes a creative team. For example
> it can be shown that successful new broadway plays have a 50:50 mix of
> old established groups and newcomers. Going into a startup culture,
> your best bet is to combine a project team from a prior company (even
> if parttime initially) with a selective mix of contractors/interns
> until they prove themselves. IMHO, expecting a strong working
> relationship from bumping into someone in the pub is akin to putting
> an ad on eBay out for Prince Charming.
Dont know where to begin with this...I pretty much disagree with
everything you have said here. I got to say smakcks of inexperience
and constitutes terrible advice.
Please name me one even moderately successful tech startup that was
built through some sort of academic methodology.... aside from goading
your uni dorm mates into starting something (ie Joey, Sheng and Alex
of OrionVM) *full disclosure as i mentor these guys - not that they
need it much* but i dont think that what u had in mind... while we're
at it you may as well add Larry and Sergi, Bill and Ballmer, and Steve
and Woz. Chance, and circumstance (the successful call it -
serendipity) found in pubs, uni dorm rooms, SB drinks ... and co
founder speed date, strike like lightning and often create co founder
- non gooey entrepreneurial love at first sight that can last a
lifetime. I'm sure most CSD attendees respect their dates in the
morning:)
I cant speak for anyone else here, but I'd counter your advice on
finding a co founder with the following recipe:
Be lucky (see below if you need to work at it like the rest of us)
Create opportunities to find that special someone (Like SB drinks
which is essentially a bar / pub filled with fellow geeks)
Focus on what makes you a great catch
Be realistic
Sharpen your idea constantly to the point of Zen like mastery
Look out for someone who makes your ideas better and vice versa
Find someone who is committed as you are (full time & full bore)
willing to take the risk to jump together
Deliver something, and find someone who can do the same.
your both in this together, so might as well be good friends as well -
most of the good (and all the best) startups have founders who are.
Yes finding a co-founder is just like finding a spouse. dating makes a
whole lot of sense. Go Ryan 'iceman' Wardell' and Nav. Forget the
haters.
>
> For people serious interested in how they can maximise their group
> forming/storming/norming I'd suggest looking at some of the
> psychometric material from a Brisbane mob called Team Management
> Systems.
Went to TMS website how you suggest DR L. lots of pretty diagrams...
only pretty diagrams. I'm a bit grumpy now... but time for some
catharsis... The high energy teams diagram looks like a management
consulting guide to navel gazing. No thanks.
Ciao
Rob.
>
> Lawrencehttp://nz.linkedin.com/in/drllau
Hi Doc L:)
I know (and support Ryan (ieceman) and Nav in getting Cofounder Speed
Date up and running) - Doc L, suggest you go along and check it out -
finding co-founders is not a systematized process, much of it is about
being @ the right place @ the right time - and chemistry way up the
list of desirable - people work together because they get along, so
'speed dating' is great at quickly finding those possible ehm -
'mates'.
This may be a worthy point of discussion for SB, so Doc L, I'll take
you point by point - and embrace my inner troll with you:) ok.. lets
go:
On Feb 21, 7:20 pm, drllau <drlawrence...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.tms.com.au/hetm.html
>
> It concerns me when seeking co-founders is reduced to speed-dating.
> FACT ...
startups there - how many co-founders have you successfully /
unsuccessfully found yourself? It is high stakes process and bloody
hard. So on behalf of the 50 or so SB regulars I'm guessing who read
your comment, frowned and moved on, I'm biting - unless you've got
some had data or experience - don't diss those trying to solve the
problem:) Nothing wrong with going on a date... the rest you have to
do yourself. It's all about making the best of the opportunity -
that's why we want to be in a start up in the first place - so dating
seems a pretty natural fit (0.02c). What is lacking (for most of us)
in the process of finding a co-founder is a solid network to find a
quality available dance partner. CDS seems to significantly up the
odds in this department. If you have a better way Doc L. (which you
infer by your concern) I throw down my rusty gauntlet remind you
you're obliged to share your solution with the class.
>
> a) you are business partners til liquidity do thou part (or debt
> divides)
business (co-founding your startup) yeah we get that, because we too
have a powerful need to eat. your point sir?
>
> b) if you're the type that argues with flatmates, how will you handle
> the pressure of 18 hour weeks working out of shed?
speed dating to find a co-founder.. nuf said.
>
> c) what is a good match if you don't know your own strengths/
> weaknesses?
have to offer, you cant sell yourself. You are a poor choice as a co-
founder. This is no one elses concern (or problem) except your own.
go travel, get some life experience fall in love, get crushed. or Go
to SB drinks religiously talk to as many people as you can about your
idea and get your game face on:) Case in point is Nav (CDS) who was a
wallflower 12 months ago at his first SB drinks - now the guy is co-
running a networking event. Practice makes perfect. (BTW Nav is my co-
founder in another startup. *full disclosure*
>
> There's academic work done on what makes a creative team. For example
> it can be shown that successful new broadway plays have a 50:50 mix of
> old established groups and newcomers. Going into a startup culture,
> your best bet is to combine a project team from a prior company (even
> if parttime initially) with a selective mix of contractors/interns
> until they prove themselves. IMHO, expecting a strong working
> relationship from bumping into someone in the pub is akin to putting
> an ad on eBay out for Prince Charming.
everything you have said here. I got to say smakcks of inexperience
and constitutes terrible advice.
Please name me one even moderately successful tech startup that was
built through some sort of academic methodology.... aside from goading
your uni dorm mates into starting something (ie Joey, Sheng and Alex
of OrionVM) *full disclosure as i mentor these guys - not that they
need it much* but i dont think that what u had in mind... while we're
at it you may as well add Larry and Sergi, Bill and Ballmer, and Steve
and Woz. Chance, and circumstance (the successful call it -
serendipity) found in pubs, uni dorm rooms, SB drinks ... and co
founder speed date, strike like lightning and often create co founder
- non gooey entrepreneurial love at first sight that can last a
lifetime. I'm sure most CSD attendees respect their dates in the
morning:)
I cant speak for anyone else here, but I'd counter your advice on
finding a co founder with the following recipe:
Be lucky (see below if you need to work at it like the rest of us)
Create opportunities to find that special someone (Like SB drinks
which is essentially a bar / pub filled with fellow geeks)
Focus on what makes you a great catch
Be realistic
Sharpen your idea constantly to the point of Zen like mastery
Look out for someone who makes your ideas better and vice versa
Find someone who is committed as you are (full time & full bore)
willing to take the risk to jump together
Deliver something, and find someone who can do the same.
your both in this together, so might as well be good friends as well -
most of the good (and all the best) startups have founders who are.
Yes finding a co-founder is just like finding a spouse. dating makes a
whole lot of sense. Go Ryan 'iceman' Wardell' and Nav. Forget the
haters.
>
> For people serious interested in how they can maximise their group
> forming/storming/norming I'd suggest looking at some of the
> psychometric material from a Brisbane mob called Team Management
> Systems.
only pretty diagrams. I'm a bit grumpy now... but time for some
catharsis... The high energy teams diagram looks like a management
consulting guide to navel gazing. No thanks.
Ciao
Rob.
>
> Lawrencehttp://nz.linkedin.com/in/drllau
>
> On Feb 9, 6:44 pm, Shane Greenup <s...@1d4.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > LOL Yep, I was tempted to comment that it is a bit harder than 5 min worth
> > of "Meet at pub X at time Y" Even a simple event is harder to organise than
> > that, but an event where you are trying to bring two different groups of
> > people together to exchange ideas and get along etc. Doesn't strike me as
> > easy.
>
> > Shane Greenup
>
> > -------------------------http://www.ImmortalOutdoors.comhttp://www.rbutr.comhttp://www.SportsA...<http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/>http://www.TravellersTrade.comhttp://www.ShaneGreenup.com<http://www.shanegreenup.com/>
> On Feb 9, 6:44 pm, Shane Greenup <s...@1d4.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > LOL Yep, I was tempted to comment that it is a bit harder than 5 min worth
> > of "Meet at pub X at time Y" Even a simple event is harder to organise than
> > that, but an event where you are trying to bring two different groups of
> > people together to exchange ideas and get along etc. Doesn't strike me as
> > easy.
>
> > Shane Greenup
>
Geoff McQueen | AffinityLive
Feb 22, 2012, 11:54:15 AM2/22/12
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Loved it. One comment to add.
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 08:39, Robert Yearsley <robert.j...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's academic work done on what makes a creative team. For exampleDont know where to begin with this...I pretty much disagree with
> it can be shown that successful new broadway plays have a 50:50 mix of
> old established groups and newcomers. Going into a startup culture,
> your best bet is to combine a project team from a prior company (even
> if parttime initially) with a selective mix of contractors/interns
> until they prove themselves. IMHO, expecting a strong working
> relationship from bumping into someone in the pub is akin to putting
> an ad on eBay out for Prince Charming.
everything you have said here. I got to say smakcks of inexperience
and constitutes terrible advice.
Please name me one even moderately successful tech startup that was
built through some sort of academic methodology.... aside from goading
your uni dorm mates into starting something (ie Joey, Sheng and Alex
of OrionVM) *full disclosure as i mentor these guys - not that they
need it much* but i dont think that what u had in mind... while we're
at it you may as well add Larry and Sergi, Bill and Ballmer, and Steve
and Woz. Chance, and circumstance (the successful call it -
serendipity) found in pubs, uni dorm rooms, SB drinks ... and co
founder speed date, strike like lightning and often create co founder
- non gooey entrepreneurial love at first sight that can last a
lifetime. I'm sure most CSD attendees respect their dates in the
morning:)
The best thing about academia for startups is that the smart students drop drop out and start companies. Unless you're at Cal or Stanford, in which case you wait a little longer to drop out and get funded for an idea on a napkin because most of the investors in the Bay Area went to Cal or Stanford, and the alumni networks here are off the scale.
Geoff McQueen
CEO
Geoff Langdale
Feb 22, 2012, 4:06:57 PM2/22/12
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Also enjoying the thread. One might go so far as to say that the
different amounts of various kinds of start-up experience here is the
Elephant in the Room and it's always fun when people decide to openly
notice that particular pachyderm.
The below statement, however... let's just say that it's more or less
true on a scale that has a lot to do with the simple-mindedness of the
startup in question and the quality of the institution being dropped
out of. It's not just the alumni networks at the big US universities,
it's the education. That is, if the prospect is dropping out of Woop
Woop Technical College and Auto Repair School to found another Plug-a-
Web-Front-End-onto-a-Database-and-Pray-For-Virality-or-at-Least-a-
Quick-Acquihire startup then drop out by all means.
For every Zuckerberg-type there are about 50,000 pig-ignorant drop-
outs scratching their heads wondering why their code doesn't scale and
trying to combine the 3 or 4 Startup Concepts Du Jour into something
breathtakingly original, despite a complete lack of knowledge about
anything beyond 'startup culture' and 'being agile' and random stuff
they read about in blogs.
Geoff.
On Feb 23, 3:54 am, "Geoff McQueen | AffinityLive"
<geoff.mcqu...@affinitylive.com> wrote:
...
different amounts of various kinds of start-up experience here is the
Elephant in the Room and it's always fun when people decide to openly
notice that particular pachyderm.
The below statement, however... let's just say that it's more or less
true on a scale that has a lot to do with the simple-mindedness of the
startup in question and the quality of the institution being dropped
out of. It's not just the alumni networks at the big US universities,
it's the education. That is, if the prospect is dropping out of Woop
Woop Technical College and Auto Repair School to found another Plug-a-
Web-Front-End-onto-a-Database-and-Pray-For-Virality-or-at-Least-a-
Quick-Acquihire startup then drop out by all means.
For every Zuckerberg-type there are about 50,000 pig-ignorant drop-
outs scratching their heads wondering why their code doesn't scale and
trying to combine the 3 or 4 Startup Concepts Du Jour into something
breathtakingly original, despite a complete lack of knowledge about
anything beyond 'startup culture' and 'being agile' and random stuff
they read about in blogs.
Geoff.
On Feb 23, 3:54 am, "Geoff McQueen | AffinityLive"
<geoff.mcqu...@affinitylive.com> wrote:
...
> The best thing about academia for startups is that the smart students drop
> drop out and start companies. Unless you're at Cal or Stanford, in which
> case you wait a little longer to drop out and get funded for an idea on a
> napkin because most of the investors in the Bay Area went to Cal or
> Stanford, and the alumni networks here are off the scale.
...> drop out and start companies. Unless you're at Cal or Stanford, in which
> case you wait a little longer to drop out and get funded for an idea on a
> napkin because most of the investors in the Bay Area went to Cal or
> Stanford, and the alumni networks here are off the scale.
Ryan Wardell
Feb 22, 2012, 6:22:21 PM2/22/12
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Wow, there are some really interesting points of view here.
I'm reviewing some of the feedback surveys right now. All anonymous by the way, so there shouldn't be too much positive bias in the results. Couple of interesting things.
I'm reviewing some of the feedback surveys right now. All anonymous by the way, so there shouldn't be too much positive bias in the results. Couple of interesting things.
- No one said the event was a waste of time, or that they wanted their money back.
- A lot of the attendees said they found 2-3 potential cofounders to follow up with.
- Of the attendees who didn't find any potential cofounders, they overwhelmingly said they thought the Speed Dating structure was effective, and they would definitely come back to another event in future.
- The event was overbooked, and we had to turn people away. Granted, we probably should have handled this better than we did, but the demand really surprised us. Next time we'll be better prepared.
If you want to extend the dating analogy a bit further, the logic in this ad is pretty convincing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr9so_TWEY
So yes, you could coast through life and try and stumble upon the right cofounder purely by chance. Or you could be an entrepreneur, take some initiative, tilt the odds in your favour and come along to Cofounder Speed Date.
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Hi Everyone,
First time posting in SB Australia but I've been following this thread
very closely.
I've personally talked to Ryan quite a few times about the Co-Founder
speed dating event and I think its a great idea.
Travelling the entrepreneurial journey myself, I've come to learn and
appreciate that the startup journey isn't a tidy/formulaic experience
where you can pull out a manual and follow procedures on how to get
things done (finding a co-founder etc).
In many instances I've found myself having to "hustle". For me that
means doing whatever you can, exploring whatever avenues, to achieve
your goals. Hustle doesn't mean being careless or rash (by all means
we should always carefully think through our decisions). It refers
more to the trait of entrepreneurs being resourceful, clever and
resilient to build that business/enterprise we're passionate about!
Like what Ryan said, if you're looking for a co-founder you can't just
wait for chance to come along. If you want to survive as an
entrepreneur you gotta find the avenues to make that happen. Co
Founder speed dating is a great example of hustle. Why shouldn't
entrepreneurs, who need a co-founder, go to a common meeting spot and
explore whether they can find a good match? Like Shane said - dating
not marriage ;)
At the same time, what Lawrence said about considering compatibility
is important, but going to a co-founder speed dating event doesn't
mean you forget about those things.
Just my 2 cents, and congratulations Ryan on setting up Co Founder
Speed Dating... I've noticed that Angelcube have got something similar
running here in Melbourne next month on the 18th of March :)
Cheers,
----
Ivan Lim
Founder & Managing Director | Vinspi Pty Ltd (www.vinspi.com.au)
t: @ivanmelvin
li: au.linkedin.com/in/ivanmelvin
On Feb 23, 10:22 am, Ryan Wardell <r...@projectpowerup.com> wrote:
> Wow, there are some really interesting points of view here.
>
> I'm reviewing some of the feedback surveys right now. All anonymous by the
> way, so there shouldn't be too much positive bias in the results. Couple of
> interesting things.
>
> - No one said the event was a waste of time, or that they wanted their
> money back.
>
> - A lot of the attendees said they found 2-3 potential cofounders to
> follow up with.
>
> - Of the attendees who didn't find any potential cofounders, they
>
> (E) r...@projectpowerup.com
>
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First time posting in SB Australia but I've been following this thread
very closely.
I've personally talked to Ryan quite a few times about the Co-Founder
speed dating event and I think its a great idea.
Travelling the entrepreneurial journey myself, I've come to learn and
appreciate that the startup journey isn't a tidy/formulaic experience
where you can pull out a manual and follow procedures on how to get
things done (finding a co-founder etc).
In many instances I've found myself having to "hustle". For me that
means doing whatever you can, exploring whatever avenues, to achieve
your goals. Hustle doesn't mean being careless or rash (by all means
we should always carefully think through our decisions). It refers
more to the trait of entrepreneurs being resourceful, clever and
resilient to build that business/enterprise we're passionate about!
Like what Ryan said, if you're looking for a co-founder you can't just
wait for chance to come along. If you want to survive as an
entrepreneur you gotta find the avenues to make that happen. Co
Founder speed dating is a great example of hustle. Why shouldn't
entrepreneurs, who need a co-founder, go to a common meeting spot and
explore whether they can find a good match? Like Shane said - dating
not marriage ;)
At the same time, what Lawrence said about considering compatibility
is important, but going to a co-founder speed dating event doesn't
mean you forget about those things.
Just my 2 cents, and congratulations Ryan on setting up Co Founder
Speed Dating... I've noticed that Angelcube have got something similar
running here in Melbourne next month on the 18th of March :)
Cheers,
----
Ivan Lim
Founder & Managing Director | Vinspi Pty Ltd (www.vinspi.com.au)
t: @ivanmelvin
li: au.linkedin.com/in/ivanmelvin
On Feb 23, 10:22 am, Ryan Wardell <r...@projectpowerup.com> wrote:
> Wow, there are some really interesting points of view here.
>
> I'm reviewing some of the feedback surveys right now. All anonymous by the
> way, so there shouldn't be too much positive bias in the results. Couple of
> interesting things.
>
> money back.
>
> - A lot of the attendees said they found 2-3 potential cofounders to
> follow up with.
>
> - Of the attendees who didn't find any potential cofounders, they
> overwhelmingly said they thought the Speed Dating structure was effective,
> and they would definitely come back to another event in future.
>
> - The event was overbooked, and we had to turn people away. Granted, we
> and they would definitely come back to another event in future.
>
> probably should have handled this better than we did, but the demand really
> surprised us. Next time we'll be better prepared.
>
> If you want to extend the dating analogy a bit further, the logic in this
> ad is pretty convincing:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr9so_TWEY
>
> So yes, you could coast through life and try and stumble upon the right
> cofounder purely by chance. Or you could be an entrepreneur, take some
> initiative, tilt the odds in your favour and come along to Cofounder Speed
> Date.
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ryan Wardell
>
> CEO & Founder - Project PowerUp
>
> (W) projectpowerup.com <http://www.projectpowerup.com/>
> surprised us. Next time we'll be better prepared.
>
> If you want to extend the dating analogy a bit further, the logic in this
> ad is pretty convincing:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr9so_TWEY
>
> So yes, you could coast through life and try and stumble upon the right
> cofounder purely by chance. Or you could be an entrepreneur, take some
> initiative, tilt the odds in your favour and come along to Cofounder Speed
> Date.
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ryan Wardell
>
> CEO & Founder - Project PowerUp
>
>
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>
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> Cheers,
>
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>
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>
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