StartUp House
Aileen
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More details here: http://bit.ly/zdZlVs
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On 07/02/2012, at 3:39 PM, peter...@business.nsw.gov.au wrote:
> NSW Government is now providing a subsidy for NSW entrepreneurs for
> desks or accommodation at Startup House.
>
> More details here: http://bit.ly/zdZlVs
Maybe I didn't read enough details but doesn't that mean the NSW gov
are sponsoring us to move overseas to create US companies rather that
providing subsidies for desks at somewhere like fishburners where the
companies are staying local?
>
> cheers
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Aileen <abaut...@gmail.com>
> To: Silicon Beach Australia <silicon-bea...@googlegroups.com
> >
> Date: 07/02/2012 12:57 PM
> Subject: [SiliconBeach] StartUp House
> Sent by: silicon-bea...@googlegroups.com
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>
>
>
David Lyon
we have to help Obama's develop Technology drive as much as we can.
Patrick Collins
Maybe I didn't read enough details but doesn't that mean the NSW gov are sponsoring us to move overseas to create US companies rather that providing subsidies for desks at somewhere like fishburners where the companies are staying local?
On 07/02/2012, at 3:39 PM, peter...@business.nsw.gov.au wrote:
NSW Government is now providing a subsidy for NSW entrepreneurs for desks or accommodation at Startup House.
More details here: http://bit.ly/zdZlVs
cheers
Peter
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Date: 07/02/2012 12:57 PM
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On 07/02/2012, at 4:30 PM, Elias Bizannes wrote:
> For any technology company to succeed, you need a presence in
> Silicon Valley -- even if it's just a sales office. Every single
> Australian living in Silicon Valley, including Bardia and myself who
> hope to one day return back to Oz, believe's that. Maybe some of the
> Aussies with Silicon Valley experience can share some perspective
> there.
I can understand commercialisation assistance, which it already gives.
I can understand support for sales offices. But to support the
starting of a company in another country doesn't make a lot of sense.
That's employment, tax, IP all being in US, not AU. You might come
home but not after 90% of the economic benefit has gone to the US
economy. Seems a really indirect way to boost the Australian industry.
Especially when there doesn't seem to any program locally for rent
assistance for startups.
>
> My view is that for Australia to have a leading technology industry,
> it needs to be global in its approach as our market is not big
> enough to sustain a big industry. The NSW government is innovating
> thanks to the insight of Peter which is that by supporting
> Australian companies expansion in Silicon Valley,
> this is the best way to generating export driven companies that
> create jobs back at home and drive the Australian economy.
>
> And for what it's worth, the Federal government in all its wisdom
> has repurposed Austrade to be import driven and pulling away from
> export assistance in all but major strategic regions like China.
> This has now required state governments to pick up this
> responsibility, because export assistance is a key component for the
> local economy for all the reasons I mentioned. In other words, the
> government was already doing this with people and companies you
> didn't know about -- it's now a responsibility put on the state
> governments and you just happen to know about me and Bardia :-)
>
> Elias Bizannes
> http://eliasbizannes.com
> Coming to a freeway near you: http://startupbus.com
Stephen Young
Fishburners. Lookin' forward to that 50/50 MB pipe ;-)
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I'm not sure an initial 50% subsidy which doesn't cover airfares is going to get someone to relocate, and a market visit may even help some folks to decide not to make a big mistake by trying to enter the most competitive market in the world, but if they do, it's not a catastrophe. Josh Lerner wrote in Boulevard of Broken Dreams about the positive flow on effects of entrepreneurs moving overseas:
" * the encouraging effect that the example has on would-be entrepreneurs
* the visibility that the firm - and local companies more generally - gain with global investors (thus encouraging further investment), and
* the likely continuing involvement by the transplanted entrepreneur with the local economy as a mentor to entrepreneurs or an angel investor"
To see the value of entrepreneurs feeding back their knowledge and experience, along with $$, you only have to look at the contribution made to the Australian innovation ecosystem by the guys who sold Radiata to Cisco.
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No Radiata right ?
How can having cash in the bank and nobody working anymore be good?
Elias Bizannes
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Maybe I didn't read enough details but doesn't that mean the NSW gov are sponsoring us to move overseas to create US companies rather that providing subsidies for desks at somewhere like fishburners where the companies are staying local?
On 07/02/2012, at 3:39 PM, peter...@business.nsw.gov.au wrote:
NSW Government is now providing a subsidy for NSW entrepreneurs for desks or accommodation at Startup House.
More details here: http://bit.ly/zdZlVs
cheers
Peter
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To: Silicon Beach Australia <silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com>
Date: 07/02/2012 12:57 PM
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I think there are lots of Aussie startups who would benefit from coming over to scope the place out for a few weeks/months before deciding to relocate - certainly I'm in that boat.
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Dylan Jay
> For the record, as well as Fishburners, NSW govt also sponsors:
> Tech23, Startup Weekend, MEGA, Heads Over Heels and provides
> assistance to innovative technology companies through the Australian
> Technology Showcase, and the TechVouchers program.
>
> I'm not sure an initial 50% subsidy which doesn't cover airfares is
> going to get someone to relocate, and a market visit may even help
> some folks to decide not to make a big mistake by trying to enter
> the most competitive market in the world, but if they do, it's not
> a catastrophe. Josh Lerner wrote in Boulevard of Broken Dreams
> about the positive flow on effects of entrepreneurs moving overseas:
> " * the encouraging effect that the example has on would-be
> entrepreneurs
> * the visibility that the firm - and local companies more generally
> - gain with global investors (thus encouraging further investment),
> and
> * the likely continuing involvement by the transplanted
> entrepreneur with the local economy as a mentor to entrepreneurs or
> an angel investor"
>
> To see the value of entrepreneurs feeding back their knowledge and
> experience, along with $$, you only have to look at the contribution
> made to the Australian innovation ecosystem by the guys who sold
> Radiata to Cisco.
You're right, I'm over reacting. It's not a big subsidy.
However I'm still not sure I buy the idea that it's good to support
companies being founded overseas as opposed to sales support overseas.
I don't know anything about the Radiata story but perhaps contrast
Business Catalyst with Atlassian. The GoodBarry/business catalyst guys
were very active in the community providing support and advice locally
in Sydney. They relcoated to the US, sold to Adobe, haven't seen them
again. That's not to say that they haven't reinvested that money or
expertise locally. Maybe I haven't heard about it. Atlassian on the
other hand do continue to provide sponsorship, facilities and
inspiration to the local community.
>
> Peter Gray
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Patrick Collins <pcol...@gmail.com>
> To: silicon-bea...@googlegroups.com
> Date: 07/02/2012 04:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] StartUp House
> Sent by: silicon-bea...@googlegroups.com
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>
>
>
David Lyon
What I've observed in successful tech industries overseas is the other
way around.
As in it's actually the Industries that invite their Govt people along.
If thats what's happening here I'm ok with that. Its normal.
There are other markets to sell to. It's tough selling into the US and
not being bought up.
Challenge will be to build a head of steam and not have everything
sold off including the shoes.
If all we are to be judged on is businesses sold off to the
competition (we are regarded as competition in the States, lets be
honest) then its not going to be like other countries industries which
focus on moving widgets to the customer.
Geoff McQueen | AffinityLive
The GoodBarry/business catalyst guys were very active in the community providing support and advice locally in Sydney. They relcoated to the US, sold to Adobe, haven't seen them again. That's not to say that they haven't reinvested that money or expertise locally. Maybe I haven't heard about it.
Geoff Langdale
with a length of "Startup Hose", that's for sure. It doesn't leave any
marks.
Having a full-time presence in the US is indeed critical for most
businesses, including Sensory. That being said, I'm not sure that
Silicon Beach is exactly the territory that will produce the next
Radiata, no offense. I'm not sure that NSW will become a blasted
wasteland for innovation if we lose a few Web 2.0 startups here and
there and this startup house might even smooth the time-honoured
transition from "non-viable, random startup without a discernible
business model" to "acquihire" unless the selection process is very
careful.
I walked to RSA from an inexpensive hotel a few times through that
area 2-3 years ago. I think the exposure to a genuine US sub-culture
thus provided will be excellent and give many future entrepreneurs a
great deal of perspective. The corner of Howard and 7th, if I remember
correctly, provided an urban experience instantly familiar to any
aficionado of "The Wire". Walking back to to my hotel via that corner
(rather than detouring up to Market) late one night led me to think a
number of philosophical thoughts about the overall balance of my life
up to that point.
I suspect the surrounding area still offers an amazing variety of
goods and services, not all legal. Also, donuts right next door.
I cannot think of a better location to encourage entrepreneurs to both
take advantage of the excellent opportunities that SF offers but to
also to subtly encourage them to return to Sydney, where the number of
untreated mentally ill wandering the streets is slightly smaller.
Geoff.
David Lyon
What is startup hose and how to use it?
Aileen
sorry guys for the slip up, I was typing too fast!
Dylan Jay
I think you misunderstand me. I'm not saying going to the US is bad
for startups, or bad for "us" being startup community. It's obviously
good and the cross pacific knowledge transfer going on now is fantastic.
The goodbarry guys did take a risk and it did pay off for them and I
don't begrudge them that or expect anything from them, or any other
company that has succeeded. That wasn't what I was trying to say.
My point was only that the NSW government is about taking NSW tax
payers money and turning it into benefit for those living here,
employing people here and paying tax here. So even though I know you
guys will be there for me if I decide to go over, and I appreciate
that, I don't expect the Australian government to be helping me. Just
doesn't seem to make sense. I would have expected them to be enticing
entrepreneurs to come to Australia.
Matt Cameron
For the naysayers debating the merits of having a soft landing for
Australians in the U.S. I would argue that you should spend two weeks
in the valley and then determine the value or otherwise of Startup
House for the Aussie economy. Take my scenario:
- U.S. incorporated company
- Funded in the U.S.
- Majority of resources in Australia (and working at Fishburners.org)
Outcome for Australia:
- $$ flowing into our economy
- IP and best practices being shared from U.S. to Australia
- Another link in the bridge between Silicon Valley and Australia
The support afforded me by the entrepreneurs behind Startuphouse and
their extended network is, and will be key to the success of my
business.
The spirit of giving and collegiality that is exuded by the San Fran
based Aussies is something that we need to catch up on locally and I
would suggest that you owe it to yourself to get over there and
experience it first hand.
I think that this support is one of the best things NSW government
could do, although I would argue it should be done at a federal
level.
On Feb 7, 4:30 pm, Elias Bizannes <elias.bizan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For any technology company to succeed, you need a presence in Silicon
> Valley -- even if it's just a sales office. Every single Australian living
> in Silicon Valley, including Bardia and myself who hope to one day return
> back to Oz, believe's that. Maybe some of the Aussies with Silicon Valley
> experience can share some perspective there.
>
> My view is that for Australia to have a leading technology industry, it
> needs to be global in its approach as our market is not big enough to
> sustain a big industry. The NSW government is innovating thanks to the
> insight of Peter which is that by supporting Australian companies expansion
> in Silicon Valley, this is the best way to generating export driven
> companies that create jobs back at home and drive the Australian economy.
>
> And for what it's worth, the Federal government in all its wisdom has
> repurposed Austrade to be import driven and pulling away from export
> assistance in all but major strategic regions like China. This has now
> required state governments to pick up this responsibility, because export
> assistance is a key component for the local economy for all the reasons I
> mentioned. In other words, the government was already doing this with
> people and companies you didn't know about -- it's now a responsibility put
> on the state governments and you just happen to know about me and Bardia :-)
>
> Elias Bizanneshttp://eliasbizannes.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Dylan Jay <d...@pretaweb.com> wrote:
> > On 07/02/2012, at 3:39 PM, peter.g...@business.nsw.gov.au wrote:
>
> > NSW Government is now providing a subsidy for NSW entrepreneurs for desks
> >> or accommodation at Startup House.
>
> >> More details here:http://bit.ly/zdZlVs
>
> > Maybe I didn't read enough details but doesn't that mean the NSW gov are
> > sponsoring us to move overseas to create US companies rather that providing
> > subsidies for desks at somewhere like fishburners where the companies are
> > staying local?
>
> >> cheers
>
> >> Peter
>
> >> To: Silicon Beach Australia <silicon-beach-australia@**
> >> googlegroups.com <silicon-bea...@googlegroups.com>>
> >> Date: 07/02/2012 12:57 PM
> >> Subject: [SiliconBeach] StartUp House
> >> Sent by: silicon-beach-australia@**googlegroups.com<silicon-beach-australia@googlegr oups.com>
>
> >> Startup Hose applications open this month. Huzzah! Great news
> >>http://bit.ly/wQ6sEs
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its a great initiative, hope to see the new startup house in the
future!
any photos?
Cheers,
Matt Ho
@inspiredworlds
Ernest Semerda
that Hacker Dojo at $100/month is a bloody unbeatable value.
There are plenty of monitors laying around at the Dojo for use
including plenty of wide screen ones. There are heaps of desks & new
chairs (inc new private areas), 3 x cubbies, and 3 large private rooms
with enough room to fit a small team in inc whiteboards and fiber
internet. If you are a member you get electronic keys for outside the
standard 10-10 open hours and if you get in before 10 you get to
choose where to sit.
I commute every 2nd weekend to SF and would be super if StartUp House
would have a casual walk-in / donation like system like Hacker Dojo
for folks like myself that spend most of their time in Mountain View
but occasionally need more then a cafe in SF.
~ Ernest
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On Feb 6, 10:06 pm, Ben Sand <b...@bensand.com> wrote:
> This is pretty good value, even without the rebate.
>
> On my last trip I used AirBnB at $40-65/night for a bed in a dorm room in a
> startup house in the valley. (Mountain View, Atherton)
>
> Hacker Dojo has co-working space for $100/month but you don't get a set
> desk and most people take their monitors with them at night.
>
> Looks like a good deal and I hope to be there when I'm back in a month!
>
> And for all the wowsers, we have a large team in Australia and plan to keep
> it that way.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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presence in Silicon Valley. But I think the biggest value you will
gain is access to quality software engineering talent. There is plenty
here, both good and bad, but the good you do come across are long time
keepers. People you see yourself working with.
I also believe the likes of community places like StartUp House,
Hacker Dojo etc... encourage folks to come together, share ideas and
build something. In Australia this is rarer. I remember sitting in my
Wollstonecraft place on the weekends coding away while my mates were
at the beach or the pub. Here most are out at a community hacking
away, sharing ideas at a meetup or talking start up mode. The hackers
culture thrives here. Therefore having local presence in Silicon
Valley allows you to tap into it, live it & breath it.
~ Ernest
http://ernestsemerda.com/
On Feb 6, 9:30 pm, Elias Bizannes <elias.bizan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For any technology company to succeed, you need a presence in Silicon
> Valley -- even if it's just a sales office. Every single Australian living
> in Silicon Valley, including Bardia and myself who hope to one day return
> back to Oz, believe's that. Maybe some of the Aussies with Silicon Valley
> experience can share some perspective there.
>
> My view is that for Australia to have a leading technology industry, it
> needs to be global in its approach as our market is not big enough to
> sustain a big industry. The NSW government is innovating thanks to the
> insight of Peter which is that by supporting Australian companies expansion
> in Silicon Valley, this is the best way to generating export driven
> companies that create jobs back at home and drive the Australian economy.
>
> And for what it's worth, the Federal government in all its wisdom has
> repurposed Austrade to be import driven and pulling away from export
> assistance in all but major strategic regions like China. This has now
> required state governments to pick up this responsibility, because export
> assistance is a key component for the local economy for all the reasons I
> mentioned. In other words, the government was already doing this with
> people and companies you didn't know about -- it's now a responsibility put
> on the state governments and you just happen to know about me and Bardia :-)
>
> Elias Bizanneshttp://eliasbizannes.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Dylan Jay <d...@pretaweb.com> wrote:
> > On 07/02/2012, at 3:39 PM, peter.g...@business.nsw.gov.au wrote:
>
> > NSW Government is now providing a subsidy for NSW entrepreneurs for desks
> >> or accommodation at Startup House.
>
> >> More details here:http://bit.ly/zdZlVs
>
> > Maybe I didn't read enough details but doesn't that mean the NSW gov are
> > sponsoring us to move overseas to create US companies rather that providing
> > subsidies for desks at somewhere like fishburners where the companies are
> > staying local?
>
> >> cheers
>
> >> Peter
>
> >> To: Silicon Beach Australia <silicon-beach-australia@**
> >> googlegroups.com <silicon-bea...@googlegroups.com>>
> >> Subject: [SiliconBeach] StartUp House
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>
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> >>http://bit.ly/wQ6sEs
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