changing inside margin+gutter

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Suzanne Hatton

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Feb 24, 2010, 2:14:34 AM2/24/10
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Hi,
I'm making a A6 booklet of the Pastoral Epistles and would like to
decrease the margins a bit to get more on each page. So, I'm wondering
how the settings for the inside margin and the gutter were determined
and the proper way to adjust each.

Thank you!
Suzanne

JimH

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Feb 24, 2010, 8:05:05 AM2/24/10
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Hi Suzanne, welcome to silas-talk.

The booklet margins were designed based on the international
publishing standards document, with input from the PNG printshop, to
make sure the text can be read after the booklets are trimmed, in cut
books as well as in folded booklets or sections.

If you *really* want to change the way SILAS works on your computer,
you could change the values assigned in the subroutine
"PageSetupHalfPageBooklets". You would need to make those changes
again any time you install a new version of SILAS.

It would be safer, however, to change the formatting after SILAS has
done his work. SILAS provides macros that help you get the formatting
to match the standards, but the finished product is still a Word
document, and you can change it however you like. In versions of Word
before Word 2007, hold down the Alt key and type FU to do File->Page
SetUp. Then adjust the margins. (You would need to make that
adjustment again if you ran the macro to format for half-page booklets
again.)

But that may not be necessary. How are you making the A6 booklets? Are
you using the Print Booklet macro that comes bundled with SILAS to
make quarter-page booklets instead of half-page booklets? If so, the
margins should be scaled appropriately, so you don't need to adjust
them. The same should happen if you are using the booklet function in
the printer driver to produce the smaller booklets. Similarly, if you
use Clickbook or some other product to scale the text to fit the
smaller page size, it should scale the margins as well.

Let us know if you need more help,
Jim

Suzanne Hatton

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Feb 24, 2010, 10:59:40 PM2/24/10
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Thanks, Jim.

To make the A6 booklet I first used SILAS to make a half-page booklet
and then changed then changed the document size to A6 in Word. That
has worked well for me. Everything looks fine with footnotes showing
on the right page, etc. The only problem was wherever there were tabs,
like on the title page and in the headers. The tabs stayed set for the
A5 layout so we had to change those.

For printing, I'm passing it off to Jo Anne in the print shop here so
she'll be getting the pages backed properly. On not sure what software
she'll use; she's asked me to submit things in PDF. Being new to this
all, so have lots of things to figure out. When you talk about
scaling, does that mean I could've left the booklet A5 and then had
Clickbook or something automatically scale it down for me?

Suzanne

Jim Henderson44

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Feb 26, 2010, 4:33:34 PM2/26/10
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Hello again, Suzanne,

Responses below:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Suzanne Hatton" <hatton...@gmail.com>
To: "silas-talk" <silas...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:59 PM
Subject: [SILAS-talk] Re: changing inside margin+gutter


> To make the A6 booklet I first used SILAS to make
> a half-page booklet and then changed then changed
> the document size to A6 in Word. That has worked
> well for me. Everything looks fine with footnotes showing
> on the right page, etc.
> The only problem was wherever there were tabs,
> like on the title page and in the headers.
> The tabs stayed set for the A5 layout so
> we had to change those.
>

As you say below, the booklet macros or a program such as Clickbook should
do the scaling for you.

> For printing, I'm passing it off to Jo Anne in the print shop
> here so she'll be getting the pages backed properly.

> Not sure what software she'll use;
>
I think she'll use ClickBook to scale the documents and put a large number
of pages on each printing plate.

> she's asked me to submit things in PDF. Being new to this
> all, so have lots of things to figure out. When you talk about
> scaling, does that mean I could've left the booklet A5
> and then had Clickbook or something automatically
> scale it down for me?
>

Yes, Clickbook is great for that, and pretty cheap to buy. I have found it
great for producing a booklet in A5 size, then scaling it down to A6 or up
to A3 for classroom "bigbooks". It scales each whole page, font size,
margins, tabs, everything. Then you can preview the pages in Clickbook
before you print. And if any sheet fails to print correctly, you can print
that sheet again, with all its matched pages.

Jim

Suzanne Hatton

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Feb 26, 2010, 7:12:28 PM2/26/10
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Thanks, Jim. If I ever do this again, I think it'll go much more quickly!

 

Suzanne


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