a question about chapter numbers in the header

[Suzanne Hatton]

Hi,

This is another thing I ran into while making an A6 booklet of the
Pastoral Epistles. In most places where one chapter ends and another
begins on the same page both chapter numbers appear in the header.
However, in two instances, at the end of Chapters 1 & 2 of 1 Timothy,
only one number appeared, that for the new chapter that began on the
page but not for the one that ended.

How can I fix this?

Thanks!

[Steve Blewett]

Hi Suzanne,

To do a quick-and-dirty fix so you can get the booklet printed, after
you're all done formatting the booklet you can simply edit the header:
add the missing number + punctuation. If you send your booklet to Jim
and me we can take a look at what's going on and possibly do a "real" fix.

Is it possible that when you changed margin size these two chapter
numbers moved up a page? If this caused the header numbers to become
off, you can try this:

Click on the Scripture Menu. Down around the fifth item in this menu is
"...Half Page includes --->". Hover over this line and a popout submenu
will appear. Choose "...Make Headers." This will rerun the Headers
routine and might fix your problem.

However, I just tried to make your problem appear. No matter how I
resize fontsize or margins, when chapter numbers move to a new page the
headers automatically adjust on the fly, so I wonder if your problem is
caused by something else.

How did you decide to make the A6 booklet size? If you can describe all
the steps you took, and then attach the offending booklet to an email,
it might help us diagnose the problem.

If you are using the Print Booklet macro that comes with Silas, I would
recommend using a "PDF Printer" as the output printer. Then you can
preview your booklet easier before you actually print it, and if your
printer messes up a page you can easily reprint just that page.

Blessings,
Kim

[John Macaulay]

I would like to report that I have had similar problems. If the verse number
of the last verse of the previous chapter appears on the previous page, even
if most of the verse appears on the new page, SILAS will only include the
chapter number of the new chapter in the header of that page.

This may have been fixed recently, but it was a problem as of November 2009.
I have not used SILAS recently.

Hi Suzanne,

Blessings,
Kim

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[Steve Blewett]

The last verse number causing this problem makes sense. Thanks for reporting it, John.

Suzanne, does John's explanation fit what you're seeing?

We'll check into it.
Kim

[JimH]

Thanks for commenting here, John, and for registering it as an issue
(Nr. 20) in November at
http://code.google.com/p/silas. Now I'm motivated to fix it :-)
(The text from the issue report is
Header will not show both chapters if last
verse number is on previous page. So for example, you have a long last
verse of a chapter. The verse number of the last verse of the previous
chapter is on the previous page, but two or three lines of that verse
run
on to the next page. The header on the next page, which has text from
two
chapters, won't show the two chapters represented on that page, but
just
the chapter that has the most text.)

Suzanne, for an immediate fix I would not suggest that you modify the
page header, because SILAS sets up the same page header from the first
chapter of the first book through to the end of the book. Each book in
the document is a separate section, and all the books copy their page
headers from the first book. The details of the bookname and chapter
numbers come from Word "fields" of type "STYLEREF", which locate the
most recent instance of text in a style and display it. So for the
bookname, the style that comes from the \h code is displayed, while
for chapter numbers it's the style that comes from the \c code that is
relevant. For chapter numbers, the STYLEREF fields look for the first
and last instances of text in the style "_CurrentChapter" which occur
on the page. If the two numbers are the same, only one chapter number
is displayed. If they are different, both are displayed, with ", " or
"-" between them, depending on how different they are. In your case,
there is no verse number from the finishing chapter on the current
page, so only the starting chapter number is displayed. The current
chapter style is formatted very small and white, so you can't see
them.

I plan to make SILAS put the current chapter at the end of the chapter
as well as with every verse number, and that should fix the problem in
the next release.

For a quick fix for now, here's what to do.

Do the formatting as usual, then check the page headers.
Wherever the last verse of a chapter runs over onto the next page, do
this:
1. Display paragraph marks (ie. Ctrl-Shift-8 or click the paragraph
mark button.)
2. Go back to the last verse number of the ending chapter and put the
insertion point within the first word of the verse.
3. Hold down the Ctrl key and hit the left arrow key enough times to
put the insertion point immediately before the first visible text,
such as a word or quote mark.
4. Hold down Ctrl and Shift and hit the left arrow key once to select
the current chapter number. (You might prefer to use the mouse to
select this material, but you probably won't get exactly what you need
to get, because you can't see what you are selecting. That's why I
suggest using the keyboard.)
5. Hold down Ctrl and hit C to Copy the verse number and chapter
number into the clipboard.
6. Hold down Ctrl and hit the down arrow key to go to the start of the
next paragraph.
7. Hit the left arrow key to move the insertion point before the last
paragraph mark of the finishing chapter
8. Hold down the Ctrl key and hit V to paste.
9. Turn off the display of paragraph marks (ie. Ctrl-Shift-8 or click
the button with a paragraph mark on it.) Check the page header -- it
should now show the ending chapter number as well as the beginning
chapter number.

Repeat this procedure right through the document.

If this doesn't work for you, email me the document and I'll fix it
and send it back.

Jim

[Suzanne Hatton]

Thanks, Jim and Kim for your responses. I've just now gotten to sit
down today to look at this and will follow the steps you gave, Jim. My
husband and I had already discovered the problems with trying to
modify the page header. Too, thanks for offering to fix it for me if I
get stuck. I'm guessing that we'll get it to work but it's nice to
know there's help!

Suzanne

On Feb 25, 9:56 am, JimH <jim.henderso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for commenting here, John, and for registering it as an issue

> (Nr. 20) in November athttp://code.google.com/p/silas. Now I'm motivated to fix it :-)

[JimH]

This problem is now fixed in version 2.209-1.14, which is in alpha
test at present. If you would like to check it, you can download it
from
http://silas.googlecode.com/files/Silas-v2.209-1.14-Setup.exe

Jim