Appointment of Board of Elections Commissioner: the law

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joannolbrich

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May 20, 2025, 4:07:37 PMMay 20
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At the May meeting there was a difference of opinions regarding who had the authority to choose the Board of Elections Commissioner.  Here is what the law is on this matter.

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New York Consolidated Laws, Election Law - ELN § 3-204. Election commissioners; appointment

Current as of January 01, 2024 | Updated by FindLaw Staff

1. At least thirty days before the first day of January of any year in which a commissioner of elections is to be appointed, the chairman or secretary of the appropriate party county committee shall file a certificate of party recommendation with the clerk of the appropriate local legislative body.

2. Party recommendations for election commissioner shall be made by the county committee or by such other committee as the rules of the party may provide, by a majority of the votes cast at a meeting of the members of such committee at which a quorum is present. If at any time a vacancy occurs in the office of any election commissioner other than by expiration of term of office, party recommendations to fill such vacancy shall be made by the county committee or by such other committee as the rules of the party may provide, by a majority of the votes cast at a meeting of the members of such committee at which a quorum is present.

3. The certificate filed shall be in such form and contain such information as shall be prescribed by the state board of elections.

4. Commissioners of election shall be appointed by the county legislative body, or in the city of New York, by the city council. Provided, however, that if a legislative body shall fail to appoint any person recommended by a party for appointment as a commissioner pursuant to this section, within thirty days after the filing of a certificate of recommendation with such legislative body, then the members of such legislative body who are members of the political party which filed such certificate may appoint such person. And further provided, if there are no members of the legislative body who are members of the political party which filed such certificate, the appointment shall take effect upon the expiration of thirty days from the date that the certificate was filed. If none of the persons named in any of the certificates filed by a party are so appointed within sixty days after the filing of any such certificate, then such party may file another certificate within thirty days after the expiration of any such sixty day period recommending a different person for such appointment. If a party fails to file a certificate within the time prescribed by this section, the members of the legislative body who are members of such party may appoint any eligible person to such office.

5. If at any time a vacancy occurs in the office of any election commissioner other than by expiration of term of office, such vacancy shall be filled as herein provided for the regular appointment of a commissioner except that a person who fills a vacancy shall hold such office during the remainder of the term of the commissioner in whose place he shall serve. Certificates of party recommendation to fill such vacancy shall be filed not later than forty-five days after the creation of the vacancy.

Cite this article: FindLaw.com - New York Consolidated Laws, Election Law - ELN § 3-204. Election commissioners; appointment - last updated January 01, 2024 | https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/election-law/eln-sect-3-204/



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mdarvanites

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May 21, 2025, 10:05:21 PMMay 21
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this is the relevant section you yourself posted.  Thank you for agreeing with the judge and council member.  

4. Commissioners of election shall be appointed by the county legislative body, or in the city of New York, by the city council. Provided, however, that if a legislative body shall fail to appoint any person recommended by a party for appointment as a commissioner pursuant to this section, within thirty days after the filing of a certificate of recommendation with such legislative body, then the members of such legislative body who are members of the political party which filed such certificate may appoint such person. And further provided, if there are no members of the legislative body who are members of the political party which filed such certificate, the appointment shall take effect upon the expiration of thirty days from the date that the certificate was filed. If none of the persons named in any of the certificates filed by a party are so appointed within sixty days after the filing of any such certificate, then such party may file another certificate within thirty days after the expiration of any such sixty day period recommending a different person for such appointment. If a party fails to file a certificate within the time prescribed by this section, the members of the legislative body who are members of such party may appoint any eligible person to such office.

Laura Sword

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May 21, 2025, 10:23:30 PMMay 21
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The law and the judge are clear that  the council can only appoint someone nominated by County - the council ONLY has the right to appoint their own choice IF the county fails to do so.  Here is a link to the decision for anyone interested - what the court said was they can't compel the council member to vote. https://law.justia.com/cases/new-york/other-courts/2023/2023-ny-slip-op-32590-u.html I reiterate my previous statement that this is akin to Mitch McConnell's failure to give Merrick Garland a hearing - which is not surprising coming from someone who admittedly voted for Trump and has been recently overheard saying she wished she was able to run as a Republican.  

Also, for the record, the DORC endorsements are all invalid.  You did not have a quorum. 


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joannolbrich

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May 22, 2025, 5:24:37 PMMay 22
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Yes, the COUNTY COMMITTEE nominates, NOT the council member. The Council member nominates ONLY if the county committee DID NOT.



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joannolbrich

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May 22, 2025, 8:07:27 PMMay 22
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The "relevant" section says that the COUNTY COMMITTEE nominates the Election Commissioner,  and the OBLIGATION of the Council member is to bring that nomination to the Council. ONLY if the County Committee FAILS to nominate a Commissioner does the Council member get to choose the Commissioner.  That is what happened when  Council woman Debi Rose brought the name of Anne Taylor Carsel to the Council: party Chairman John Gulino failed to call a county convention for the purpose of nominating his choice of Commissioner.  The Democratic County Committee did not fail to nominate a Commissioner,  it did so three times, and the Councilmember failed to bring any of those nominees to the Council.

mdarvanites

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May 23, 2025, 3:33:20 PMMay 23
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can you point to me where is states the obligation of the Council member is to bring that nomination to the Council, cause that's not how that works the message comes to the Council and the Council decides weather or not to act on it.  See the county's previous nominations for Debi Rose Hattie Roagone and Matthew Mobilia.  The Council did not act on them they received the message, legally met requirements.  Learn the law, or read what you post.  By the way the current Commissioner WAS nominated by county and acted upon by the Council which is why she is the commissioner.  

Barbara Waldmann

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Jun 5, 2025, 1:39:05 PMJun 5
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Joanne,
Thanks for this written clarification. I am 
answering this late because I suffered a 
hip displacement on Memorial Day 
weekend and am now just getting to 
review my emails. 
Doing well now,
Barbara
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On May 23, 2025, at 3:33 PM, mdarvanites <mdarv...@gmail.com> wrote:

can you point to me where is states the obligation of the Council member is to bring that nomination to the Council, cause that's not how that works the message comes to the Council and the Council decides weather or not to act on it.  See the county's previous nominations for Debi Rose Hattie Roagone and Matthew Mobilia.  The Council did not act on them they received the message, legally met requirements.  Learn the law, or read what you post.  By the way the current Commissioner WAS nominated by county and acted upon by the Council which is why she is the commissioner.  

joannolbrich

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Jun 7, 2025, 9:01:15 PMJun 7
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I hope you are recovered now.

Barbara Waldmann

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Jun 8, 2025, 9:43:11 AMJun 8
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Thanks, Joanne, I’m working on it.

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Steven Schwall

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Jun 8, 2025, 11:58:21 PMJun 8
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To Barbara, one of the hipest people I know, I hope you heal well!

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