Videopress and vPIP: UPDATED!!!

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Jay dedman

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Sep 23, 2009, 3:37:20 PM9/23/09
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Eric Lorentz, aka UnholyKnght, has done us all a big solid. He updated
the Videopress and vPIP plugins for the latest version of Wordpress:
http://unholyknight.com/VideoWrangler/

Many of you may remember all the work that Charles and Enric put into
the original versions. These plugins helped make video a more active
part of our WP blogs. As Wordpress evolved, these plugins starting
acting buggy or broke. It's a lot of work keeping these plugins
constantly updated.

If you use the old versions, delete them and install these new ones.
If you have no idea what I'm talking about, give them a try. Or
hopefully some folks here will link to some examples.

We want to redesign our videoblog, but you can see all the plugins in
action: http://ryanishungry.com
"VideoWrangler (new version of vPIP)" allows multiple video formats to
play in one place. "Related Videos" on sidebar lets us choose which of
our archives compliment the main video. We put "Recent Videos" on the
footer to show our latest work. If you click "Archives" in the
navigation bar, you'll be able to scroll through thumbnails and
descriptions of our work.

The plugins are all open source if anyone wants to imporve the
functionality. I know Heath and Mike Moon have recently discussed
better Archive pages.

Thank you Eric!

Jay

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Kenya

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:21:33 AM9/24/09
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I'm still using the old plugins (sort of). Actually I'm just using
Recent Videos and Video Archive. vPIP is active but just so I can add
thumbnails for Recent and Archive.

I was able to make a few crude code changes to make the archive
display in columns. (http://kenetic.org/archive).

The number of columns IS hardcoded but could be set up as an option.
The problem is that the current archive uses a table instead of lists
so there is not a lot of flexibility there. I ran into other problems
with this when I was attempting to use a different theme and had to
revert back to K2 because of it. Another random issue I see is that
the number of thumbnails shown on the first page of the archive is
always one less than the number I specified in setup (both before and
after my change). However, I have not taken a thorough look at the
code to see why.

If anyone wants a quick fix while you wait for a more permanent
solution, I can give you my changes.

Kenya

Mike

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Sep 24, 2009, 9:17:32 AM9/24/09
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Hey Kenya, (note I have CCed a few other people)

Thank you for your modified Archive-table code. YOU ROCK.

Well, whatever changes Eric made had some importance. When I used your version, I was back to the old problems of a blank Archive page.
SO...
I pulled your "well marked" changes and plugged them into Eric's code and Bingo-Bango-Bongo... it works.
http://mikemoon.net/vlog/wp-content/plugins/videopress-video-archive/archive.php
My archive page now shows a thumbnail grid of my past 51 videos.

Thank you Kenya so much.

I do believe that future plans for output of the videopress plugins will change and be more designer friendly. But in the mean time, this is looking great.

I've attached the modified video archive file containing Kenya's modifications (no titles, no description, just thumbnail).

Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Kenya Allmond <kenya....@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kenya Allmond <kenya....@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Videopress and vPIP: UPDATED!!!
To: "Mike Moon" <mgm...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 7:29 AM

I will add comments so you can tell what I added then send it over.  If you want I can remove the part that adds titles and descriptions (though descriptions can be turned off in the settings.)


Kenya Allmond
Kenya....@gmail.com
Phone: 202-730-9756
Sites: http://gdgtgrl.net · http://kenyaallmond.me · http://kenetic.org
Profile: http://bit.ly/kenyaallmond

What would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?


On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Mike Moon <mgm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Kenya,

That's what I was looking for with regards to the archive.
(Assuming your read the most recent posts in the SIAB forum you'd see
what I'm after.)
If you could send me the info you could I'd like to play around with
the archive.
I'm going to try and make it a wall of videos; no descriptions, no
titles.

Good work, thanks.
Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net
mgm...@yahoo.com
videopress-video-archive.php

Jay dedman

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Sep 24, 2009, 9:18:18 AM9/24/09
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> I was able to make a few crude code changes to make the archive
> display in columns.  (http://kenetic.org/archive).

Your archive page looks awesome. The page looks like what Mike wants for his own Archive page.

> The number of columns IS hardcoded but could be set up as an option.
> The problem is that the current archive uses a table instead of lists
> so there is not a lot of flexibility there.  I ran into other problems
> with this when I was attempting to use a different theme and had to
> revert back to K2 because of it.  Another random issue I see is that
> the number of thumbnails shown on the first page of the archive is
> always one less than the number I specified in setup (both before and
> after my change).  However, I have not taken a thorough look at the
> code to see why.
> If anyone wants a quick fix while you wait for a more permanent
> solution, I can give you my changes.

Yeah, Cheryl added this suggestion for any future changes to the plugin:
it would be best if he could just
output it as either a definition list (with dt the post title and dd
items for thumbnail image and description) or an unordered list with
other semantic tags wrapping things like the post title (heading) and
description (paragraph) and a styling class for a thumbnail image.
Then designers who know CSS could concoct all manner of display
options. We could control the number and width of columns or provide
single-column display, and we could share basic templates with each
other. I wouldn't want to see any specific number of columns
hard-coded in. Just a list, so we can decide how many columns to
display based on individual taste/what fits for our sites.

Kenya

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Sep 24, 2009, 5:54:00 PM9/24/09
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It should be an easy change to make it styleable with CSS. That whole
section that outputs a table is really just a few lines of code
(though there might be other changes that need to happen to remove all
formatting from the plugin). I just made a quick fix to mine. It's a
band-aid.

My ultimate intention though IS to change it into something I can use
with other themes. I did this before I realized that there was any
ongoing work on the plugin. I'm going to download the most recent
versions and take a look. I'm a newbie at CSS (I took two classes
this summer) so that is why I didn't immediately tackle the formatting
issue.

Kenya

Cheryl Colan

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Sep 25, 2009, 1:26:30 AM9/25/09
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Kenya's and Mike's archive pages now look great! Awesome job, guys,
and true collaboration and sharing. Sweet.

I did notice your tool tips, when you hover over your thumbnail images
on the archive page, are now messed up - in that they don't show the
title of the video. I don't have a clue where that's coming from, but
if one of you takes another pass through the code, maybe you can fix
it. It's nit-picky, most people won't notice or care.

Cheryl
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